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AN AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE who made his fortune betting against sub-prime mortgage securities has told Americans to ‘lower their expectations’.
Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Jeff Greene told Bloomberg that Americans needed to “reinvent their system of life”.
“America’s lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted so we have less things and a smaller, better existence.
“We need to reinvent our whole system of life.”
Greene owns Florida Sunshine Investments, which manages $2 billion in assets. He said he flew his wife, children and two nannies to the ultra-exclusive forum.
He went on to say that, despite the US unemployment rate being at a seven-year low, the American economy was in such turmoil that radical politics was to be expected.
“Our economy is in deep trouble. We need to be honest with ourselves. We’ve had a realistic level of job destruction, and those jobs aren’t coming back.”
Greene added that he is having dinner with Tony Blair tonight.
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It says a lot for her when she sent the bill for the ambulance to the Corbett family. That is so low.
@bings: one word COW.
@Joe oshaughnessy: no,no. Cows are beautiful animals. Snake.
@Anna O Connor:
Your right Anna sorry snake is a much more fitting description for her.
@Joe oshaughnessy: wow wow wow.. hold your horses. Snake’s are beautiful and graceful creatures. Hows about a feaces ring worm. I think thats a wee bit more like this beeeyatch..
A 13 yr old boy said it best She is not a Corbett and never will be She is and always will be a murderer
Don’t tarnish the good name of the faeces ring worm by comparing it to her. Let’s just say she’s a piece of faesces.
@bings: says alot about those morons who willingly gave money to these murders.
I’m sorry but this case Is done and dusted it’s been before and put through one of the worlds most rigorous legal systems in the us and not only that but they also have the most technically advanced criminal investigation systems so I’d say it is very unlikely that they’ve missed out on anything.
@Joe oshaughnessy: they missed how that brick ended up on the night stand for one
All hail the US on your knees. What type of Justice you get there is directly related to what you can afford.
@Patrick J. O’Rourke:
In direct contrast to where exactly?
@Funfair:
Don’t be silly they didn’t miss anything and certainly not anything a obvious as a brick on a dressing table ok they may have given the impression that it was missed but it wasn’t that case was played out like a professional game of chess they knew what moves what moves too make and exactly when to make them.
@Joe oshaughnessy: I agee that the legal team knew exactly what they were doing and what exactly was needed for successful prosecution. We all wonder about that brick being in the bedside locker but i think they didn’t even need that to win. Once it was shown that he was battered at least 10 times on the back of the head while he lay on the ground and Martins earlier admision that he “hated’ his son in law among other things, was enough to prove murder 2 and disprove their self defense claim. But this case is not over. A conviction is not the end of the case. Appeals and appeals…
@Funfair:
Yes
Lucky the jury agreed with the prosecutor .
In todays Irish Times its transpired that the prosecutor was considering first degree murder on that basis alone .
That would assume (I take it ) that this was the first blow i.e. she hit him while asleep head down with as much force as she could muster which would be premeditated .
Anybody out there who is supporting this appeal should ask themselves one simple question .
When is the last time you seen anybody with a concrete slab for company in their bedroom .
Im sorry but I think if thats the case her husband I think would have asked, why ?
Im sorry but the more I think about all of this the more I think it was premeditated as did the prosecutor .
They just were not sure it would carry .
@Missyb211: And I’m in agreement with you that appeals are appeals but I can’t honestly see them winning any appeals can you?
If they do there will be serious questions asked of the U.S legal system.
Quite frankly I hope they rot in hell because that’s all they deserve in my view.
@Funfair: I have seen a lot of people keeping bricks on their nightstand. And it’s not unusual them not remembering when and why exactly they put it there.
@psychiatrist: going by i.e. name I bet you meet all sorts of weirdos
@Joe oshaughnessy: no i can’t see the conviction being overturned but you never know, some technicality. They might get a reduction on time. They might bring in her accusation the she suffered years of abuse as new evidence. Anything. It’s not set yet.
@Missyb211:
Fair enough it not set in stone but there still going to do time and lots of it.
Why shouldn’t they? If people want to fund them they will, it’s not a case of ‘profiting’ from the murder, and maybe there is more to this case that will be brought out in the appeal, who knows?
@stephen kavanagh: well said.
@stephen kavanagh: do you know something the defense team didn’t know during the 4 weeks of trial? Seems very strange there’d be some overlooked evidence appearing a few days after they are convicted.
@Jane: That’s not what he is saying. Even guilty convicted felons are entitled to appeal m. So their decision, while tasteless and morally repugnant is not necessarily wrong in law.
@Tom Tom: I get that they are entitled to appeal and even fundraise for the appeal but Stephen seems to think something else might come out in the appeal. I would’ve thought the defense would have brought up everything possible and investigated everything thoroughly for the trial. I get with the passage of time new evidence can arise but a few days after the trial ends to be suggesting there could be more to it seems strange to me.
@stephen kavanagh: I think the Prosecution , the Jury and the Judge got it spot on.
If it wasn’t Jason she murdered it would have been someone else eventually
MM has been volatile and on meds for her disorder since she was a teenager.
She is a total nutjob.
@stephen kavanagh: nope nothing new their solicitor says no new evidence that the appeal will try to find legal flaws in the original trial
@stephen kavanagh: they beat a man to death and falsified evidence but hay ho this is where we’re at when facts and evidence don’t matter.
@stephen kavanagh: Two completely different issues, of course the Corbets have every right to appeal and look for some technicality that might force a retrial. But Go Funding? now they are clearly profiteering from misfortune and by their actions are clearly supporting criminals fight their appeals which is some moral swamp for any busy model.
@stephen kavanagh: Am amazed the amount of tablets she was taking and her mental state and maybe a bit of booze , the level of violence was pretty extreme…
@stephen kavanagh: If anything all the evidence that has come out over the last few days does nothing for the Martens, prosecutors have admitted that they seriously considered a first degree murder charge for both of them before falling back to second degree, yes the Martens can fundraise for legal fees but it’s the manner in which they initially did so which has people enraged.
@stephen kavanagh:
Why shouldnt they is right Stephen .
But are you and the people funding their appeal aware of the following .
In The Irish Times Sat 12th August 2017 ,and I quote .
Go Get Funding has deleted reference to domestic abuse .No evidence was produced to support such allegations ,and Mr Martens himself told the trial he did not witness any physical violence between Mr Corbett and his daughter before .
End of quote .
Secondly in same article its transpired that all negative comments regarding the fundraison have been removed from the Go Get Funding Website but positive comments remain.
So much for informed opinion Stephen .
@stephen kavanagh: Stephen is a troll, please see is trollesuque comments on other articles respond to him and he will continue on with it as he gets a kick out of it. Also he is not Stephen
@stephen kavanagh: I hope both of them ROT in jail,
@Niallers: if she is a nut job then her appeal may reveal her insanity, which was not raised during her trial, and she may change her plea to guilty by insanity
@stephen kavanagh: $500,000 Insurance policy if case overturned says otherwise.
Don’t believe Mr Corbett was as shining white a knight as people are insisting. Of course supporters of the Martens family can fundraise for an appeal.
Irish people are ridiculous sometimes in their concept of the justice system.
@Cecilia Byrne: why is that Cecilia. It’s funny how his ex colleagues friends and family and those who knew him say he was a wonderful man but of course you think otherwise. Even when her ex boyfriend said she is deranged. But still people like you are still attacking his character. Shame on you
@Cecilia Byrne: I didn’t hear anyone at any stage say he was a white knight. He came across as a good man, a devoted father. Who did not deserve to be beaten to death by his “loving wife” and father in law.
@Cecilia Byrne: I think if you knew him you would know that he was a kind and gentle man.
Nobody said he was a shining white knight. Who even uses that language .
He was hardworking man who only wanted the best for his Children, he was a good Father, brother , friend, husband and son who deserved the best but instead met this evil woman who ruined alot of peoples lives.
@Niallers:
Agreed
Several of his work colleagues have gone on record with very genuine comments to the effect he was a decent man .
Can be seen on video on Independent.ie .Those from people on his charge .
Personally Im convinced she was a Daddys girl and her Dad believed whatever she told him .I think she lied to him and he lied in court to cover for her .
@Cecilia Byrne: Are you casting aspersions on his character because you knew him personally or are you just voicing an opinion without any facts to back it up?
If it’s the latter, then it shows more about your character or lack of.
@Cecilia Byrne: you’re some wicked B!tch
@Hello there friend:
I dont think your familiar with the facts ,one of which is that he set up a charity fund raiser for his first wifes condition .
Also Mr Martens lied about his charector implying that his previous father in law a Mr Fitzpatrick suspected he was resonsible forhis daughters death,he signed a sworn affidavit that he said no such thing .
Im afraid they have told many lies in their plea of innocence.
@Hello there friend: Seems odd that the father of his first wife made an affadavit before his death that he never told Tom Martens that he though Jason killed his daughter but yet you choose to believe a man defending a murder charge.
@Mark Gerard Lochlain: this is what I’m talking about. A ludicrous and ridiculous overreaction to a comment that doesn’t agree with your opinion. You either stay at home a lot or find the real world extremely stressful Mark. Feel sorry for you snowflake.
@Hello there friend: Of course she’s going to say things like that when he has no right of reply. If this was a DV case there would be a lot more evidence than a blonde hair in his hand. This has been framed by the Martens from the start to show Molly as the victim, but in this case I can’t see it.
@Cecilia Byrne: Nobody once said he was a “shinning white knight” But what does have to do with him being battered to death by his evil wife and father in law? What gives you the right to make assumptions about the poor man’s character anyway? Did you know him personally?
@Cecilia Byrne: Well I don’t believe a word that comes out of MM mouth. She’s a convincing manipulative bitch. You couldn’t trust her.
@Cecilia Byrne: Know him well did you Cecilia?
@Cecilia Byrne: i agree, while i think they are probably guilty, he possibly was not all he was painted.
@Dave Murray: if you don’t like opinions then I highly recommend you avoid comments sections. You’ll find that they’re not echo chambers of your own mindset and can be upsetting to people only accustomed to others agreeing with them.
@Cecilia Byrne:
Look at you with all your buzzwords to hide behind. “oh its my opinion”, “oh you need to get away from echo chambers” “snowflake”
You made an ill educated comment and were rightly put back in your box.
@Cecilia Byrne: What makes you doubt the conviction btw? I know it’s your opinion but I’m curious as to why you’d be inclined to believe the DV story when the police and the jurors didn’t.
@Niallers: you obviously knew him well then ?
@Cecilia Byrne: Out of interest, what do you base your comment on that he wasn’t as shining a white knight as people are insisting he was? Also this habit that some people have of calling others snowflakes is very tiresome.
@Cecilia Byrne: Even if Jason Corbett was an abusive husband, which I personally don’t think was the case, he did not deserve to be bludgeoned to death. She knelt down beside him and continued to give him blows to the head when he could no longer defend himself. It was a sick act but both her and her father.
@Brendan T. M. P. Bur: went to school with him.
He and his family are genuinely lovely people.
@Pablo: I don’t engage with faceless socks.
@Dave Murray: sorry Dave but did you think that only friends and family of the Corbetts were allowed to post on this independent public comments section? Or is it more the case that your unfamiliar with dealing with people who don’t agree with you?
@Ciara Baines: no I don’t know him Claire. Why do you ask?
@Cecilia Byrne: you may well be entitled to an opinion and lets face it any fool can have one. But you’re not entitled to that opinion being treated with any respect when it’s based on nothing factual. Not all options should be treated with equal value and in this case yours is actually worthless … But your still entitled to have it – personally I’d aim for a higher quality of opinion though.
@Cecilia Byrne: Sure if people want to give their money to murders and live with the fact after the overwhelming evidence that this man was slaughtered, it’s on their conscience
@Cecilia Byrne: can’t believe people could comment on a persons charachter, ridiculous Irish person
@Cecilia Byrne: horrible Irish person
@Cecilia Byrne: I think you have completly missed the point here, he didnt deserve the death ge got regardless!!!
@Cecilia Byrne: ‘Irish people are ridiculous sometimes in thier concept of the justice system’s…. Irish people fully understand the concept of justice, and in the case of Molly Martens Corbett and her father Tom Corbett, in my opinion justice was served.
Jason Corbett was in the opinion of many individuals who knew him both professionally and personally was an honest, decent hard working loving and caring father, who wanted nothing but the very best for his children, and that in his opinion, did not involve entrusting them in to the care of Molly Martens Corbett.
@Pablo: faceless nameless socks like yourself are best ignored.
@Cecilia Byrne: what a hypocritical comment. You now don’t agree with Marks opinion and resort to a belittling comment. So who is overreacting. Your original comment is also an opinion based on no facts only hearsay. There is numerous facts that disprove the testimony of T.Martens. Not forgetting MM refused to testify. In your opinion why would you think she would do that?
@Cecilia Byrne: I’ll lose no sleep over your choice to not address points made by someone who doesn’t use twitter and hence doesn’t have a profile picture …. like most people who just “decide” on a point of view without looking at facts its easier for them to play the man rather than the ball.
You have managed to post quite a few comments and each one just demonstrates your inability to back up your opinion with facts. So you are damn right, you are best to ignore me for to do otherwise might force you into rational thinking and you haven’t demonstrated that you are capable of that.
@Cecilia Byrne: I agree
@Cecilia Byrne: Lets see what you have to say when your niece is assualted and some nobody on the internet claims “she is not as innocent as she looks”, “she had it coming” etc
This is part and parcel of any trial. There will always be people who believe in the innocence of their friends and relatives, and that’s their right. Personally, I believe the right verdict and sentence was passed down and I hope the appeal fails, but I’m not going to complain that people are using legal mechanisims at their disposal to fight it.
Cant they just accept that their neice, cousin, whatever is a flamin psycho. We all have bad eggs somewhere in our families.
@Dave O’Hanlon: She’s hot though.
My contribution to the Go Fund Me is page is
Wouldn’t give either of you the steam off my pi$$
Happy jailing!
I’m generally against censorship, unless in very exceptional circumstances, in this case I think it should be allowed. To ban it may make martyrs out of them and allow any supporters to claim their innocence, allowing conspiracy theories to claim cover up’s of their alleged innocence to go on for decades.
Allowing the funding to go ahead, but carefully monitoring the wording, will prove a fool and their money are easily parted and dispel any theories about a cover up or their alleged innocence.
While their families will never forget this, in a year or two the rest of us will move on to the next killer in the headlines and forget them.
Phuk them.
Regardless of what anyone on media or social media thinks that couple are entitled to appeal ,if law allows and are entitled to ask for funds.People are also entitled to contribute or not contribute. That is called democracy.
I’m going around all week trying to think of a film I saw years ago with a storyline very similar to many aspects of this case and it’s just hit me it was called.
The hand that rocks the cradle.
I’m sure some of you will remember it.
No matter how unpalatable this seems to us, It is their right to pursue an appeal against their conviction, that is how the system works. If people want to fund it, it is their money to spend how they wish, and whilst it we may see it as foolish and even vile, there is nothing to prevent them spending it on funding an appeal.
The appeal itself will more than likely focus on some aspect of due process, legal principles employed by the Judge and/or evidential procedures followed by law enforcement officials, the defense team will attempt to argue that the law was not followed to the letter and hence the conviction is unsound. I very much doubt there will be any new ground breaking evidence.
They’re not going to get anywhere near the amount of money they’re asking for anyway. The people donating to this are probably family members and family friends, moreso than Joe public. The sort of people who donate to this are presumably from the “alternative facts” school and have no interest in reading up about this case.
They are convicted murderers, end of story. They won’t be getting any of my hard earned.
My God, it could only happen in America. Setting up a charity to fight a Murder Appeal, never heard the likes before.
@Eugene Comaskey: Why only in America?
the martens have every right to make an appeal. they are most unlikely to win it but they have every right to appeal. Also they have every right to fundraise for such an appeal. its their rights. I don’t see any issue
Certainly not news worthy. Ignore…
If it was here they would get free legal aid.
@Liam P Lally:
Are you sure? I do see a lot of people–foreign migrants especially–taking cases to the High Court. I couldn’t afford to go to the tennis court, never mind the High Court. I often wonder who is bankrolling an asylum seeker that is not working and claims to be penniless. High Court costs mount up FAST.
A pair of bad eggs
Extract from ABC2020 Prog where the Martens did a pre-trial interview which was only released post-trial, and available here yesterday, painted a very neg picture of her life with victim.
Specifically, the audio recordings, if real, of the couple arguing and content of interview with the children was very disturbing.
In that interview, Molly and Tom came across, as rational, intelligent, educated and decent. So why didn’t Tom, with his 31 years FBI service, just advise his daughter to instigate divorce proceedings if her life with Jason was so unbearable.
Had he taken this path, Jason and kids would be back living in Ireland, Molly and Tom wouldn’t be serving 20 to 25 years in jail for murder, and kids could continue to at least have some relationship with their step-mother.
@Rory J Leonard: would any father allow his daughter marry a man that supposedly killed his first wife? If she was so innocent she should have testified! I figure father tried to cover for her, that’s why there were no prints on the bat.
Justice has too be seen to be done. It doesn’t seem to me that this was a saint. People don’t kill you because they suddenly your face doesn’t fit. He didn’t deserve to die like this but it seems that there was a lot more to it than appears. Let see justice.
@Brendan Keegan: Justice has too be seen to be done. – enlighten us those who believe the exact opposite what part fo the trial and evidence are you unhappy with>
@Brendan Keegan: Who made out he was a “saint”? Justice was done btw, they were found guilty of a horrendous murder and will rightfully be behind bars for many years.
@Brendan Keegan: ‘People don’t kill you because suddenly your face doesn’t kill’. Eh yes they do. Plenty of people kill for no reason other than they’re evil.
@Ciara Baines: doesn’t fit*
@Brendan Keegan: maybe she killed him because she wanted to stop him taking the children back to Ireland and leave her which is what the authorities have said all along.
Justice does have to be seen to be done and that’s what we have seen with this verdict in my opinion.
People split up all the time. It doesn’t give one the right to kill the other.
@Brendan Keegan:
Another moronic statement from you. you seem to think there is a cover up? what an idiot
@Stephen Coveney: what a strange comment to make. Just because you don’t agree with my comment doesn’t make it Ill judged. And nobody has put me “in my box”. I’m amazed at the amount of posters here that aren’t familiar with being challenged.
@Cecilia Byrne: Still waiting for a reply to my question. I take it you don’t have a logical answer.
@Cindy Crawford: mise freisin but I’m not holding my breath
@Cian Nolan: I’m not really expecting an answer but i like calling people out on the bullsh*t comments they make.
@Cecilia Byrne: Cecilia, maybe that’s because your comments come across as trolling. An example would be an earlier poster, Niallers, who knew the man and his family personally and affirm that he was a good person generally whereas you state you didn’t know him but make comments questioning his character. You have no evidence or clear reason for saying this it appears other than to have a “different ” opinion just to get reaction. You should remember a man lost his life in horrific circumstances and all actual evidence points to this woman and her father doing this in a premeditated fashion. It’s a terrible thing and real people are affected by it. You’re entitled to your opinion if it’s genuinely held but it doesn’t appear that’s the case. It looks like you just want to hurt people.
@Orla For-kan: Well they were going to send the appeals bill to the Corbetts, but the defence team informed them that it probably wouldn’t work, so they have decided to use Go fund me instead.
You would want to be an awful gobshit and as thick as same to donate to that fund.
@Grainne Kelly: and why is that grainne
@Brian Jones: isn’t it obvious!!
This is disgusting. Defaming a victim of such a sick crime. Using a charity fundraising site !!! How low can these murders go
Under the United States Constitution, they have the right to pursue an appeal.
And if they can’t afford lawyers, their friends & family have a right to try to raise money to pay for the appeal.
At least they got a jury trial. Irish people, with their non-jury courts, could learn a lot from the way the case was conducted.
In fairness Americans aren’t really noted for having a high level of intelligence. Despicable and sickening.
@Cecilia Byrne: you are delusional they are murderers, murderers don’t profit from their crime.
The father in law was an FBI agent,believe me,if there was any abuse or a any niggling doubt whether these two were innocent,they would not have convicted them,let them waste the money they raise for the appeal,if people are stupid enough to give it to them.
Molly drugged her husband she then pulped his brains out with that brick with help from her father. THEY BOTH ARE MURDERERS. Covicted by their equals.
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