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Joan Burton compares Mary Lou to a saint ... but not in a good way

The pair have a history of clashing in the Dáil.

WITH THOUSANDS OF teachers on the picket line today, the subject was raised in the Dáil several times this afternoon.

Sinn Féin’s Mary Lou McDonald asked Tánaiste Joan Burton why the government is being “so unreasonable” in pushing ahead with Junior Cycle reform when teachers are clearly against it.

During Leaders’ Questions, McDonald said teachers are the experts in this instance and should be listened to.

She said “a very real prospect of a third day of industrial action is looming large” due to the Government’s “failure to engage in discussion with teachers”.

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Under the new proposals, teachers would be required to grade 40% of their students’ work. It had initially been proposed that teachers mark 100% of their students’ exams.

‘Think again’

Burton said this practice was commonly used abroad, adding that “collaborative education” is in the best interests of students.

She urged the two second-level teachers’ unions behind the strike, the ASTI and TUI, to “pause and think again”.

McDonald said teachers didn’t disagree that reform was needed but were unhappy with how it was being implemented.

ceann The Ceann Comhairle had to intervene when TDs started to talk over each other.

Burton said she regularly visits both “well-off” schools and those in “poorer communities” through her job, and that the government is committed to getting as many students as possible to complete their education.

She told McDonald was “you’d be familiar with [fee-paying schools]“.

In her final exchange with Sinn Féin’s deputy leader she said: “You’re like Saint Augustine: ‘Lord make me reform, but not just yet.’”

Housing and health

Also during Leaders’ Questions, Anti-Austerity Alliance TD Ruth Coppinger accused the government of inaction in terms of building social housing units.

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She said that while Fine Gael and Labour are continuing to “sweep rough sleepers of the street, whole family homelessness continues” due to rent increases and repossessions.

Burton said the coalition has committed to spending €2.2 billion on social housing over the next few years.

Meanwhile, Fianna’s Fáil’s Billy Kelleher urged Health Minister Leo Varadkar to intervene in the nurses’ registration fee dispute.

“It’s not a holiday for us … it will actually cause more work”

Mock battle: Students’ last-minute plea to teachers as pickets begin

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    Mute Paul Mc
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:26 PM

    Joan Burton the peoples champion .
    Don’t make me laugh.

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    Mute An Ciarraioch
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:35 PM

    iPhone Joan has completely lost her marbles recently.
    The likelihood of her losing her seat too, shortly , has driven her temperament to the house for the bewildered.
    That and the courting session that has begun between Enda & Mehole , which only confirms , that everyone now knows , that The Labour Party will be virtually nonexistent, following after the soon to be announced General Election!!!

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:43 PM

    As two faced as you can get,nothing genuine about her

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:06 PM

    Lads, why is Gerry less popular than iPhone Moanie Joanie in the opinion polls? Doesn’t make sense,

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:56 PM

    Well Empress Maria Louisa is simply looking after her support base… sure all teachers are on the Spin Feign ten cent payroll… look at them all out off the leash today… woof woof

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:26 PM

    I’d say it’s rigged!

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:28 PM

    Keep digging there iphone, everytime you open your mouth its another nail in labours coffin.

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    Mute Joseph O'Regan
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:45 PM

    The Government are not listening to the people, they never did. When questioned by the opposition they simply ignore the question and make some silly unrelated waffle.

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    Mute Dot Com
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:58 PM

    We are under the power of a dictatorship pure and simple, They don’t care about you or me or if your kids or mine are hungry or cold they have quangos to re fair you to for answers to those issues. They imposed a home tax and a water tax against the will of the people, Fine Gael and Labor never again Rotten shower of get rich quick opportunists.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:29 PM

    I feel embarrassed for the people of Dublin West.

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    Mute D is Illusioned
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:57 PM

    Goodbye Joan.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:25 PM

    Let she who is without sin…..

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:27 PM

    do page 3.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:54 PM

    Pic of Joan Burton clothed even would turn me off a newspaper for life

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:01 PM

    When the governments backs are against the wall, they seem to have only one plan: attack Sinn Féin.

    Hundreds of people on trollers? Attack Sinn Féin.
    Homeless people dying on our streets? Attack Sinn Féin.
    Not representing the people who put them in power? Attack Sinn Féin.

    The list of incompetence is endless.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:01 PM

    *should read hundreds of people in trollies.

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    Jan 23rd 2015, 8:41 PM

    Not so smart iJoan burton must have requested a truthful comment about her to be deleted. What a pathetic inhumane individual. Delete away, doesn’t change the poor way she treats the people of Ireland.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:38 PM

    As an erstwhile Labour voter – (I know, I know, but I am a working class person) – I come to bury JobBridge Joan, not to praise her. How this woman, who has connived in ,and indeed initiated, the most anti social and anti working class measures in this country since the 1920′s can criticize anyone, ANYONE, absolutely beggars belief. I hold no particular brief for Ms. McDonald, but this shameless bid to smear political opponents should not be allowed to pass unchallenged. Shame on you, you patronizing, multi pensioned baggage. LEAVE NOW, before you are dragged out of Leinster House and thrown in the gutter where you belong.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:59 PM

    Oh, Pontius, that was a mere aside. Believe me, I have a whole lot more that I could say, but brevity being the soul…. and all that!

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:10 PM

    It is not just Joan. They all are doing it, especially when the marginalised party members speak (though it is difficult to think of SF as marginalised anymore, but in the Dail, they are). They attack the person. It is a strategy of FF/FG/Lab to attack people first and mmmmmmaybe, then, address the issue. It’s dysfunctional.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:14 PM

    “Burton said she regularly visits both “well-off” schools and those in “poorer communities” through her job,”

    Guess iJoan doesn’t visit schools in poorer communities as much as she use to, since she developed Globophobia.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:15 PM

    If Joan Burton is saying Mary Luo is a saint then Joan must be a Satanist.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:30 PM

    i like Mary Lou. She is a true Fianna Failer.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:17 PM

    Bang on. What she is quoted as saying in the above article is pure mealy-mouthed blather.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:46 PM

    I cant even stomach reading about Iphone Joan, never mind hearing her head melting voice. The sooner she is out of government the better,

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:55 PM

    CAN I JUST SAY bye bye joan! FOR THE PEOPLE

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:55 PM

    SF jumping on another bandwagon, I see.
    There is zero mention of Junior Cert reform in SF’s manifesto from the last general election: http://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2011/SF_GeneralElectionManifesto2011.pdf

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 4:56 PM

    It seems a bit rich for a Labour TD to pass any remark on where people went to school…it seems to me that more than on of their own had a fee paying Education and at least one confirmed that was important by sending his children to fee paying schools?

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:57 PM

    St. Jude is Moanie Joan’s new Patron Saint.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 5:43 PM

    Burton is a dipstick and will be political history soon enough

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:35 PM

    Labour getting their mojo back. About time.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:49 PM

    Mojo? More like voodoo zombies.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:00 PM

    Mojo?
    Does that stand for Mad Old Joan?!

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:39 PM

    John, that was a goodie!! :-D

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:32 PM

    So they have at least 18 votes in 2016 then? Or are the green thumbers just being kind?

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 6:18 PM

    What a witch she is most hated person in the Country now her and Enda The people can not stand them any more

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:40 PM

    They has, has they?

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    Mute Liam Ó Séicspéir
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:30 PM

    Mary Lou is getting terrible crow’s feet and Joan looks like she’s melting. It’s time to get some attractive women in senior party positions. In the North, we have delights such as Arlene Foster, Naomi Long and Carál Ní Chúilín. Now they’re riding material.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 3:53 PM

    It’s time to get casually sexist lads.. let’s all talk about women’s appearances and not mention once how the men look… except willie o’dea.. we have to mention him and his magnificent moustache. And doesn’t Micky Wallace’s beard look awful

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 4:07 PM

    I love a bit of casual sexism. Don’t be knocking it.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 6:14 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2026450/One-teachers-bullied-online-parents-pupils.html
    “Facebook and Twitter have been used to intimidate teachers over bad grades or simply because they are not liked.
    More than a quarter of those that admit they have been targeted say the abuse has come from parents with one headteacher was driven to the brink of suicide by a year-long online hate campaign.
    One parent even set up a ‘Google group’ and asked others to join in their abuse.”

    Does the government not get it, when teachers mark their own students, then if the student gets a bad score who do you think their parents will take this out on, their child or the teacher?

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 6:31 PM

    http://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/mar/30/teachers-bullied-online
    “More than one in seven teachers has been the victim of cyberbullying by pupils or parents, and almost half know a colleague who has been targeted, according to a survey published today.
    Students have set up “hate” groups on social networking sites calling for specific teachers to be sacked and have even created fake profiles in their names containing defamatory information.”

    http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5066/more-than-a-third-of-teachers-bullied-and-threatened-by-parents
    Over 40% of teachers threatened by parents and .3% of 14,000 teachers was physical abuse by parents. This is what self assessing will do as it has happened in England and bringing this in here will do the same.
    Parents are going to bully the teachers here because when their child is upset due to a poor or poorer grade they blame the teacher but this government do not care and all that this does is make teachers stop teaching and is that what the government wants?

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 6:33 PM

    http://www.theguardian.com/teacher-network/2011/oct/03/bullying
    “I am an ICT teacher and feel that I have to give students high marks or be labelled incompetent. There is nowhere in the system that you can bring this to light.”
    “My health was so badly affected that I had no option but to leave.”
    It will be the same here and the government does not care and when someone sticks up for the teachers, they get shot down why?
    The fact is the government are bullies and they are promoting now the bullying of teachers and anyone who tries to make a point like Mary Lou is then attack by a person who acts like a bully?

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 5:37 PM

    I thought that Mary Lou would do a sit-in if she was really passionate about the rights of teachers.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:42 PM

    iPhone Joan will have no prob getting job when she gets gate this year
    “Haunting houses she will clean up”

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 5:41 PM

    Some mistake surely, shouldn’t Lairy Moo be compared to a martyr instead?

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