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THINKING OF SELLING your house?
Most people would first consult with an estate agent about their options and try to figure out the best way to proceed.
Someone a bit more adventurous might think about going it alone and post their own classified advertisement.
For many, Ebay does not seem like the natural home of property sales although it does have an outreach of around 90 million visitors a month in the UK and Ireland.
But let’s examine the process a little more closely…
Selling
At the time of writing a search for ‘houses’ under the property section of the website produces two results for actual properties on Ebay.ie and 113 on Ebay.co.uk.
Speaking about this, Steve Haywood, Ebay’s head of communications for the UK and Ireland, said:
We have a property category on Ebay.ie. In general people will list on there as a kind of classified advert.
“You can run an auction as well – but then the sale would have to be finalised in what you might call ‘real life’. You need to take the listing off Ebay and then inspect the property and conclude the sale successfully,” he said.
For many house sellers that sounds like an added layer of difficulty.
Why would someone bother using a third party website when all of the legal stuff – which can take as much as two months – still has to be completed?
Outreach
“One of the main reasons for listing a house on Ebay,” Haywood explains, ”is that there are 90 million visitors a month to Ebay in the UK and Ireland. It is a great place to get visibility for your item. And that includes property.”
Despite the advantage of a diverse reachable audience, Brian Dempsey, an associate director with DNG, has reservations about the process.
Difficulty
“I would be very surprised if someone hadn’t managed to do it,” said Dempsey, “but do they buy the house without coming to see it? Do they bid against each other?”
To sell your house on Ebay how do you know what your house is worth? They come to us, they get the evaluation and they sell it. So estate agents are involved at one level or another.
But what if someone was willing to go it alone and take whatever price they could get?
“For argument’s sake – if you had a crumbling pile on the west coast and if some American came in to buy it for €15,000 maybe – then yeah, it has a purpose there,” said Dempsey.
In reality possession is nine-tenths of the law – they go to look at it and they find they aren’t interested – then you’re back to square one. We sell by private treaty and that is where the estate agents show their worth.
“You’re trying to get through the process without the two solicitors are killing each other. The only person who can talk to both sides is the estate agent,” he said.
Possibility
Ebay offers an unconventional outlet for those looking to sell a property. However, selling through the site comes with many of the same difficulties as a conventional sale – and it would be prudent for anyone thinking of going down this path to properly research it beforehand and ensure they have the correct legal support in place.
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‘Michelle McIlveen told the Assembly at Stormont on Monday that Sands was “not a freedom fighter”, but instead a ”member of a brutal terrorist organisation”
Some terrible things happened during the resistance to a brutal apartheid state. It always happens. When a colonial power subjugates, steals and tries to eradicate the culture of the native population, the kickback is rarely pretty. Some actions will be justified, others will look inexcusable from afar and with the passage of time. It’s much easier to have 20/20 moral vision when you aren’t in the cauldron.
It’s comically selective and an attempt to distract people from the reasons why people like Bobby Sands felt forced to take the actions they did in the first place.
One of the best ways of healing would be more of an acceptance and admission from the likes of the DUP that their people kicked all of this off in the first place. Sure, some dreadful things happened as a result that no one wants to see again, but from The Plantation to The Penal Laws via the gerrymandered two tier state – the civil rights movement didn’t just magically appear for no reason. It’s oh so convenient to associate all Irish resistance with terrorism. It’s what they do every single time. We’ll keep waiting for a bit of self-reflection as to why the likes of the IRA arose. Meanwhile they will indulge in endless British commemorative events about fighting oppressive and murderous regimes. Propaganda writ large.
@SerotoninWars: Much more eloquent than I could put it but you are spot on.
@Joe Beirne: moron
@SerotoninWars: exactly. Just like the Zios today.
@Joe Beirne: Thanks Joe. Awful, dreadful, appalling and inhumane things happened that no one wants to see again. It’s just so myopic and selective to only focus on the actions of one side, with never the slightest bit of acknowledgement as to why these resistance movements and groups might have arisen. The fact that someone was willing to starve themselves to death as an act of resistance should leave some fairly hefty clues as to the strength of feeling at the time. The irony as ever, is that if this had been a British person in similar circumstances, there would be a commemorative day and The Sun et al would have a major celebratory splash about it every single year.
@Fergus O’Donnell: Very much so. Did you see the Louis Theroux documentary? It should (even though it won’t) put pay to the idea that being enraged at the actions of the settler movement and the Israeli state is anti-Semitic. Louis is Jewish, of course (atheist, but that’s his heritage), and you could see the bewilderment and sadness in his face listening to the extremists as they dehumanised and justified the robbery and subjugation of the Palestinians. It’s simply not about being anti-Jewish. Anyone with two functioning brain cells realises this would be amoral and wholly wrong. It’s about a murderous faction and regime, nothing more.
@SerotoninWars: I couldn’t put it more eloquently myself. Absolute nail on the head SW.
@Anthony Curran: Thanks Anthony :)
@john doe: Another day, another doe to mute. So long weirdo.
The DUP, who still love to parade around that they won a battle over 300 years ago that allowed them to oppress Catholics for the majority of the next 300 years suddenly don’t want to open old wounds or bring up hurtful history? It would be Hillarous if not soo hypocritical
@John Doe: Troll
@John Doe: Get a job you waster
@John Doe: Still craving attention I see…
@John Doe: Can’t help but notice anyone you don’t like is subhuman? What a terrible life you must have, so utterly full of hatred. Be best for everyone if you just seeked a permanent solution you your misery
@Jack Hayes: ťŕòĺl is too good a word even for him. Lo life, zero ambition dé-generate. Content with being klass klown on here 24/7. What a life! (Give him some cred if he was on a payroll but alas…)
@John Doe: *unionists
@FoxyBoiiYT: Best response is to completely ignore the sad little creature.
@John Doe: Well the Loyalist Paramilitaries have some horrendous atrocities to their credit, the Shankill Butchers for example!
@Rian O’Callaghan: vile and disgusting comment
@John Doe: UFF,UVF, RHC, UDA, UDR. Glenane Gang, Shankill Butchers, MRF, the British Army , the Paratroopers, and the RUC .. just to name a few !
@John Doe: think of me as the one that exposes & reports yòu as the villáge ìḍìóṭ ÿôù are. Lol lol lol…
@Mr Inbetween: Not for the 1st time. His biggest accomplishment is deletion. “Lol lol lo”
The only brutal terrorist organisation were the British army and still continue to be
@John Doe: Back under your bridge, Troll
@CP: Who placed a bomb in Warrington that killed 2 innocent children the day before Mothers Day?
@CP: wow wow it takes two to tango and our crew were equally vicious and remember they still have not handed over the disappeared. We currently have Gerry spouting I know nothing like Manuel in faulty towers
@John Doe: Truly your a sik sad damaged troll
@Paul O’Mahoney: Tim Parry and Jonathan Ball were their names. Never forget them.
@Eamon: I know just didn’t want to name them for personal reasons.
@Paul O’Mahoney: I thought you might know Paul, I just wanted everyone else to know.
@Eamon: That was a shocking day when those 2 young boys were killed. Strange though how everyone remembers their names but very few can tell you the names of any of the countless children murdered by the RUC and British Army.
@John Doe: I doubt you’re living in anyone’s head, It’s such a waste of a life to spend so much of it trying to get a reaction out of random strangers who won’t even remember you seconds after responding to your inane comments
@John Doe: That would be Mountbottom et al!
@Anthony Curran:
As per Cain archive. Killed/murdered by:
RUC/BA: ~35-44 children under the age of 16.
PIRA: ~47 children under the age of 16.
@honey badger: Loyalist terrorists: ~ 20-25 children under the age of 16.
@Mr Inbetween: My apologies for presenting the most accurate available number of children killed during the troubles by all involved. I didn’t think these facts would cause whatabouting and name calling. Lean ar aghaidh…
@Mr Inbetween: Incorrect he kills terrorists of all ages every day.
@Mr Inbetween: It’s incredibly silly, is what it is. He’s not my hero, and your childish aversion to facts about the troubles is very odd. Anything else?
@Mr Inbetween: Nope sorry lad I am not
You have to love the Irish complaining about an Irish hero statue,that’s the way we are,we complain for a reason but Jesus Bobby sands is a part of any decent Irish persons life.
@Altoir: well said
@Altoir: Any decent Irish persons life? Nonsense. Ask yourself why Sands family has repeatedly requested that the ‘ bobby sands trust’ stop using him, his writings, and his image as a cash cow. Didn’t Gerry try to make himself a direct beneficiary of the trust too?
@Altoir: He was a terrorist nothing more.
@john doe: True he was the diet king
@Rian O’Callaghan: freedom fighter possibly
Wound’s from the past for unionists? Did they starved themself to death because of injustice against them and their followers?
Wow. The unionists have no morals and no shame and lie as easily as they breathe.
Just like their Israeli counterparts.
@Rian O’Callaghan: ha! Reacting to yourself. You may’ve hit yòùr lowest low jìm? Hard ol wkd on here 36hrs straight.. didn’t ya? The statue is wonderful, and you know it. Glorious even.
@j m m: It’s coming down RA head like it or not
@Mr Inbetween: Nope as you can see.
@Rian O’Callaghan: jim, there is help out there. Poor jim.
@j m m: Are you talking to yourself Jim?
@Rian O’Callaghan: would you be interested in being a case study of a person that suffers compulsive 24/7 ťřòll tendencies?
Statue looks like it’s staying for good… long over due. Mr Adams will get his deserved outcome from the bbc. Glorious day for being Irish.
@Rian O’Callaghan: is it true John there’s a video of you going large at a wolf tones tribute gig? Top less? Good man yourself.
So, apply for retrospective permission, and make it Legal.
@Ed Brennan: Might have been the plan all along. Council would look bad if they don’t grant it now.
There are also a lot of building being erected in the South of Ireland with no planning permission,by The Irish Government,that should also be investigated,no safety procedures in place,why we have to worry about planning in the North of Ireland and ignore our own planning regulations is beyond me,The North is another country
Good luck taking that down now…
Factually inaccurate to state Thatcher introduced internment, she did not. The Heath government did under Operation Demetrius is August 1971. Thatcher was no friend of Ireland, but let’s be factually accurate here. Internment stopped in 1975 and Thatcher became PM in 1979. The removal of political status that would ultimately lead to the hunger strikes was introduced by the Labour government.
@John Doe: The Labour government introduced Internment in 1971.
@Fran Ken: apologies, Ted Heath, not Labour
The Kneecap eejits can take it down for their community service
The only thing I don’t understand here is why they would try to erect the statue without proper pp. Now it needs to be taken down its gonna cause mayhem. A bit silly tbh.
@Gavin Smartr: Remember these types don’t do law. Once again, the Republic Flag is used. The flag is to represent everyone, but it’s being continually hijacked by subversives. And you are 100% correct it’s a bit silly and only to stir the pot before matching season, which is another pot stirring exercise.
@Paul O’Mahoney: Are you ashamed of your flag? Or you think that people who fought essentially apartheid bring the flag dishonour. It’s all well and good sitting in your ivory tower unaffected by the situation.
@Joe Beirne: were they fighting apartheid at Kingsmill. Clown.
@Philip Kennedy: Where they protecting the people in Derry in Bloody Sunday? Give over you west Brit
@John Doe: What was happening catholic civilians preceding Kingsmill? Oh yeah, it’s okay for the loyalists.
@John Doe: Yeah I’m the evil one, read a history book lads, I’m not here to educate you. I bet you all took part in the celebrations of 1916 a few years ago? Or maybe not, you don’t seem the patriot types.
@Paul O’Mahoney: marching season isn’t for another two months
@Joe Beirne: and what about the Catholic civilians murdered by the IRA and other republican paramilitaries – or do you only care about those killed by the British armed forces and loyalists?
@JoeJoe Kilbride: That’s a separate debate, I was highlighting what preceded Kingsmill. I was not justifying Kingsmill. But being able to understand that requires the ability to read and have a level of understanding.
What exactly did he achieve?
@Alan: He got elected to Westminster and I think his campaign manager then held the seat, so there was a few bob for ” the cause “.
Other than that nothing really, I was about 15 when he died and thought that a resolution might be found after him and the others gave their lives. But no, the killing simply escalated and still achieved nothing.
@Paul O’Mahoney: You could say the same about so many other rebellions throughout Irish history. What you cannot deny is the bravery of the 10.
Maybe some of the legal costs in obtaining planning permission could be sorted if the statue was sponsored by KFC.
@john doe: Jesus put your phone down.
@john doe: how do you get away with it
@john doe: have u still got the spiders in the matchbox
Slimfast champ
@Bri Lye: more scuum on tonite
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