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GERRY ADAMS HAS insisted he does not need to be good maths despite ongoing criticism of his and Sinn Féin’s grasp of economic policy.
Amid ridicule from some on the government benches in recent weeks, the Sinn Féin leader has explained to TheJournal.ie today why he doesn’t have to be good at numbers:
During the wide-ranging interview – which we’ll be publishing over the coming days – Adams also discussed the current situation in Greece.
We asked what he thought of the left-wing Syriza government, which Sinn Féin closely aligns itself to, appearing to row back on some pre-election pledges.
Here’s what the Louth TD had to say:
All filming by Michelle Hennessy/TheJournal.ie
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Enda Kenny is a fine mathematician, he thinks the minimum wage in this country is 35 grand.
He also thinks 60 billion of sovereign debt < 30 billion of dodgy IOUs
Gerry’s worried as it looks as if the Greeks bluff has been called, he may have to jump off their bandwagon fast as the people might see through his populist “policies” also! Damn them bloody Greeks you can never depend on them!
One does not need a grasp of “facts” and “figures” is order to govern well.
Were jammin was that you in baileboro today getting “assaulted” by the gardai in the name of Irish Water?!! You’re gone viral all over Facebook!!
He’s got a point. Appoint the right people to the posts and you’re on the right track.
Sure isn’t it senior civil servants that run the country? So why do we have politicians?
We have politicians to give us the illusion that we live in a functioning democracy but alas it is becoming like amurica more and more where the only tenet of democracy left seems to be freedom of speech in that as being you can say what you like but you’ll do what you’re told .oh and you’ll pay whatever you’re told to pay by the way!
Great role model right there. Undervaluing the importance of maths for the young people. Maths is a vital subject for all the young. I suppose he was never really much of a role model anyway with his constant lies
You don’t have to be brilliant at maths to know that Sinn Féin is the largest party in Ireland, with 16 TDs.
now lets see if an ciarrioch shows up…
Spooky.
Adams has already proven to us that the only qualification you need to be good in Irish politics is to be a convincing lier……
Sergeant Yates, no need… I’ve got this thread covered #gerry4taoiseach
It sure is spooky Sergeant, that you appear on every article that even mentions SF, but suppose FG don’t pay you to troll for nothing.
Count me in, Mr Shinnerbot, I’ve got your back *wink*
We know that his buddy has a picture of the queen on his bedroom wall. Perhaps Gerry has a picture of Vladimir Putin on his bedroom wall.
He is good at lies as well even than most TDs
That’s true. Even enda can’t be too good at much with all the highly paid advisors he has. Not to mention all the ministers who even lobby for more money for their advisor’s.
Doing the math here id say there’s about six people with numerous amounts of twitter accounts spouting the same ol muck that people are not interested in hearing anymore. Finance has changed since the days of Haughey. A leader of a country does not have to be an economical genius as past and present governments have shown us. 35 grand the minimum wage yoiks FG ..PAYING 100% on the unsecured bond yoiks FF. The leader is the statesman that has a vision for the social model of the country economics included. Most decisions made financially come from the department of finance the minister brings the figures to the leader the leader has a cabinet meeting with the other set ministers it is up to the leader to determine what way those figures are used to run the country. DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE GREAT LEADERS OF OUR DAY were economical brainiacs computers do most of the number crunching it is how you interpret the numbers and integrate them into policy that makes a government. Now if a brief from Pearse Doherty lands on Gerry Adams table saying we have a surplus how do we spend it is up to the social and economical vision of the leader to see how that surplus is used if he gets a brief that has a deficit it is up to the leader of the country to rectify that by identifying why their is one and now in Irelands case where up to our necks in it because the leader choose to screw over his own people and send the real economy into the abyss. Leaders lead they are the representation of the peoples will. Backslapping and arselicking is now the representation of the spirit of the irish one hundred years on and nothing has changed. We should start believing in what the executed visionaries of 1916 thought we could achieve instead of letting the likes of people who spat at them kill their dream. The Irish people are more than just colonial lapdogs and slaves thats what was said in 1916 and thats what Adams is saying now. #IrishPride try it.
Excellent post B-Egan, maith thú.
Ive heard of economical masterminds pickin billions out of their arse . Anglo.
We know SF are part of the british establishment
@Real. It depends on who is doing the counting !
Popularity ÷ integrity = infinity.
Least he can spell. It’s liar idiot
Don’t worry about the spelling. Calling Adams a liar only scratches the surface of the real truth about him.
The second I seen the headline, I said “Hugh O’Connell wrote this article”. Someday there might be a whiff of objectivity to his ‘journalism’
What exactly is subjective about this piece, Julian?
If I can bat for Julian…
You wrote about 4 sentences – all bar one contained a negative comment!
“ongoing criticism of his and Sinn Féin’s grasp of economic policy”
“appearing to row back on some pre-election pledges.”
“Amid ridicule from some on the government benches”
The first rule of Shinnerbotfightclub is don’t engage with said shinnerbot.
All those sentences are statements of facts. The idea is to lay out the claims and then let Adams explain for himself. I don’t there’s anything particularly subjective about that. It’s laying out both sides of the argument.
@Hugh O Connell
The Author.
I respectfully disagree.
You have a filmed interview and instead of showing it and letting him speak for himself, you get in four digs beforehand.
Mind you, no chance of the beloved Enda doing an article with the journal having agreed to one with RTE. One every four years is enough apparently.
I don’t think he needs to be good at maths. Fianna Fáil had no moral compass but were human enough to look ashamed. Labour used us to tear down the last government and nearly the entire financial system, yet they look unashamed, arrogant and bandish the knives out against the the same people that elected them, Fine Gael got in on the promise that they were an alternative to the FF dynasty but without the corruption or corruption but instead we got a party that is the same but without the look of shame in their faces.
Sinn Féin to be honest couldn’t be any worse or better than what has been there before. At least Gerry Adams is willing to speak regularly in public; a trait which the current Taoiseach seems unable and unwilling to do. He is on later nd my bet is on Kenny acting like a sociopath tonight and denying all fault of this government and brandishing a mind over matter approach. 2/1 odds on that
Sorry I replied to this when it was supposed to be a stand alone comment. My bad people!
Leave Hugh alone. He’s a champion journalist
Tin hat brigade are out… remember anything that doesn’t have ‘dear leader’ in the body text when writing about the leader for life of SF will not be tolerated.
That choice of headline, which is what my comment was regarding, is blatantly subjective to be diminishing to Gerry Adams as a politician. It’s taken out of context and used as a stand alone statement in the headline to make him seem incompetent. You’re fully aware of that Hugh. The constant leading questions and general representation of Sinn Fein that you present speak for themselves. I’m not saying you’re a bad journalist Hugh, but when it comes to Sinn Fein you are shockingly biased. And no, I’m not a member of Sinn Fein.
@julian what’s the problem with the choice of headline – i would think that the possible leader of the country to say ‘i don’t need to be good at maths’ would be an eye catching headline – i’m sure if Micheal Martin or Enda Kenny or Joan Burton said it in the same position it would make a headline. I was actually going to criticise the author for being to lenient on the SF support for Greece and about pre-election promises similar to Labour… but then i read your ravings and thought – if we both complain it means its not biased.
Not to mention the only two links at the bottom of the story, same being…
“Read: Fine Gael dishes out a deep burn to Gerry Adams”
“More: Fine Gael has been throwing serious shade at Gerry Adams on Twitter”
In the first “story” its the general consensus of the visitors to your site that this “deep burn” was nothing like it, but a crappy attempt at a pun down. However, never let the truth get in the way of a sensationalist headline eh?
Hugh is a good labour man leave him alone.
” #Our day will sum ” Is this a term normal used in a respectful manner towards a serving politician.
It is outrageous from the lamestream media not to present Gerry in an unquestioning positive light.
Hugh – I hope you don’t resent me ‘batting’ either ?
I’ve noted for a considerable time too, that your Journalistic ‘style’, is heavily weighted in favour of the present hugely Conservative FG /Lab. Government !
I’ve also viewed you on Vincent Browne, where you take a similar ‘viewpoint’ .
Are you claiming that it’s not your modes operandi ?
An Phoblacht, the only true source of unbiased factual news, will be publishing a rebuttal shortly.
Gerry is just proofreading it first to ensure it is fair and balanced.
@Sergeant
They both are woefully bad at sums, they’re just liars so they won’t admit it! Any idiot can do the basics but it takes someone with vision to lead a nation and not f it up. So far for dear old Eire it has been more miss than hit. Who says SF don’t deserve a shot at this point?
Sheikh – up until recently when it suited his political objectives, Adams didn’t even recognise the Dáil. In fact has he ever used the term ‘Republic of Ireland’? – hard to advocate for a party that lies or worse abandons its core principles to get power.. and SF will do and say anything to get power… its too soon for SF to be in power.. they might be more palatable without Adams as leader.
SF the partitionist party with two sets of contradicting policies in both countries
Sgt Yates, I don’t even bother reading your blathering guff anymore, I just red thumb and scroll down. I’m sure most readers do likewise. And Hugh, a bit of balance wouldn’t go amiss.
@ Sergeant
Fair enough points and I’m not overly find of Gerry myself but I think SF as a party have, perhaps, something to add to Irish politics as it stands. I don’t like some of the more radical views traditionally held by some in SF but I think it has moved on from there as a party.
I wish that we had more candidates who really saw the big picture, rather than focusing on local issues only. I think what SF could add to government is an impetus to change things. A coalition would perhaps be a favourable outcome.
Sergeant- How long ago is “RECENTLY” ???
TIL 29 years ago is recent.
@proudirishrepublican – does this mean we’re not friends anymore?
an ciarrioch – until the time he moved to louth for six weeks and went for election as TD for Louth.
@Domhnall – no SF/Adams never say ‘Republic of Ireland’ they say ‘this state’, ‘down south’ or when they’ve a few drinks ‘ the free state’…
Agree on that Julian. When a journalist systematically fails to display balance and neutrality – then he/she is not much more that a lowly propagandist.
Shinners just can’t take any criticism. They are so arrogant they think they know bloody everything.
True enough. I’d rather a leader have the qualities of leadership and his Finance guy be good at Math than the other way around.
Incidentally, I think the way his ‘….now I may not be good at maths, but….” throwaway comment was cherrypicked and made hay out of by FG/Labour was ridiculous in the extreme, and showed a childishness and desperation that we are seeing more and more from government benched. The faux outrage overblown reaction to Ruth Coppingers ‘call in the dogs’ comment being another example.
This is Ireland. We do maths, dear boy.
When I went to school, it was called ‘sums’.
Maybe in primary school.
That’s where werejammins educational evolution ended.
“That’s where werejammins educational evolution ended.”
The irony LOL :-)
Sergeant- I see that on another thread that you failed to respond at all to the ‘hard’ questions, that I put to you – maybe it’s you that are truly unable ???
an ciarrioch/real shinnerbot – i don’t talk to trolls.
actually go on – what questions?
SF is the cult of the stupid
Mr Yates, why do you object to Gerry’s trampolining habits? Are you anti-trampoline all of a sudden? Disgraceful. Some people need to be up in the clouds, away from terra firma.
I thought all weapons had been decommissioned – its clear that a naked Gerry Adams on a trampoline is an egregious attack on the well being of nearby citizens in his home county of {insert county here}.
26 + 6 = ∞
At least Gerry Adams, will try to answer a question truthfully , unlike An Taoiseach , who wouldn’t answer a question, if he was there ’til tomorrow !
I would be very confident that his strong, young , Economic Team , will be more then able to lead us out of the quagmire, that successive Governments have led us into , with The EU , etc.
We all look forward to an early General Election.
We will romp home with at least 200 TDs Comrade Ciarraíoch!
Jarry has spent his entire political career trying to avoid answering questions truthfully…
He’s never been caught in a lie.
A master of dodging direct questions.
He’s not as thick as he’d like you to believe.
Gerry Adams will try and answer a question truthfully? Are you mad? Did you never see him squirm when asked about Jean McConville or his membership if the IRA?
Precisely John.
SF and stupid go hand in hand
Dermot,
Adams was questioned by the psni for four days last year on his supposed “membership of the IRA”. They were unable to produce any evidence whatsoever, and released him without charge. Did you forget to hand in whatever evidence you had?
Real Shinnerbot- Enda/FG Fake Troll who spews utter childish WAFFLE !
Kerry man, stop talking about yourself like that comrade.
Has the DPP (or whatever you guys in the UK call it) decided yet if Baron Adams is to be put on trial?
Gerry answer a question honestly? Are you deranged.. He has never answered a question honestly.
Did you hear about the constipated mathematician?
He worked it out with a pencil.
I once asked a statistician out on a date. She refused to reject me.
Another hugh special.
Considering economics is a social science, you don’t have to be a mathematician to run a country.
In fairness to Mr Adams he takes his career seriously, he is no shrinking violet he has always stood up for what he believes in.
No cosy cartels with Gerry what you see is what you get.
No Paul – its what we didn’t/don’t see….
Thats alright gerry. Enda cant even speak english.
But he’s not good at politics either
Enda kenny is good at two things lying and talking bull
He has my vote, only to piss off all the pro government womp rats.
Also, the title for this piece is a little snarky alright. The journal has a hard time hiding its pro government bias.
Undoubtedly Jorry is intellectually challenged and somewhat dense.
But he was busy doing other things when he should have been in college….
So some fella called “gravel pitt” described him as “intellectually challenged”, while the late Fr Alec Reid, cross community worker and widely regarded ‘Chaplain to the Peace Process’ described him by stating that Adams is “the most capable politician we have and the other politicians mightn’t like that, but I’d say he’s one of the most capable politicians in Europe.” Given that he was the main driver behind one of the most successful post conflict peace processes in the world today, I’d be inclined to side with Fr Reid on this one. Sorry “Gravel Pitt”.
A fool always finds some greater fool to admire him – Boileau.
Tir – and others have called him the most evil terrorist ever on this island…
However – he has no experience of running anything. Except SF/IRA.
“and others have called him the most evil terrorist ever on this island…”
Others who didn’t know him and could offer nothing but blind allegations without burdening themselves with producing any proof. Fr Alec Reid, however, did know him.
As for his “running SF/IRA”, well he ran SF. There’s no such thing as SF/IRA. Did he run the IRA? Well, the psni questioned him for four days on this very issue last year. They could produce no evidence whatsoever and released him without charge. Did you forget to hand in whatever evidence you had on him, or something?
Tir – keep taking the tablets…..
So some fella called Tír Eoghain Gael challenges some fella called Gravel Pitt etc etc etc, Help please……………….
Good comeback. Doesn’t really qualify as evidence though. Try again. Did you pass on whatever actual evidence you had to the psni last year? Or did you forget just? Sounds like they really could have done with it.
Tyrone why persist to harp on about UK matters on an irish website. I’m sure there is some .co.uk for you and your people
Tir, I wouldn’t put much store in the “evidence” of a priest. They’re all as batty as you can get.
So says Gravel Pitt – who himself was so intellectually challenged , to not know, that Gerry is a worldwide multi language published Author, earlier yesterday , on another thread ???
Tap Solny / Lyons – No question that anyone will anytime soon , say anything positive concerning your intellectual capacity ??????
Wouldn’t you William? Well this particular one was a central figure in the building of a successful peace process, who was also involved in numerous other peace processes worldwide and who received the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award amongst other international awards and accolades. I’d be inclined to say his word on Adams carries more weight than “Gravel Pitts”, or yours, or mine.
I don’t care Tir, as a priest of the highlt corrupt Catholic Church he also believes in gods & demons, ghosts & souls, heaven & hell, devils & angels, so he’s a complete idiot.
What, specifically, did Gandhi say about Adams?
Nothing. More shinner-spoof.
These idiots will say ANYTHING……
Ah yes the famed peace project that is used to hide the fact that the british still rule every bit today as they alway have :D
On an article where Gerry’s ability at maths is commented on, isn’t it ironic that it’s the spelling of his name that most right wing Blueshirts have trouble with. #GERRY.
William, Fr Reid in his lifetime worked tirelessly for peace across the world. You may choose to call him an idiot if you so please (and do so for no other reason than you disagree with his religious beliefs), but the fact remains that he made a real, tangible and positive difference to people’s lives in conflict zones in numerous countries.
But yes, I’m sure such achievements just pale into insignificance compared to yours alright.
Tir – WHAT did Gandhi say about Adams?
Why ignore difficult questions?
What did Gandhi say about Adams? I don’t know and I care even less. Why do you ask?
i think he said he was a bit of an idiot if i remember correctly
Tir, YOU are putting a quack forward as an expert opinion on someone else’s intellect and intelligence. Do you not see that’s invalid? I don’t care if he is another Mother Teresa of Calcutta, (another con artist btw). He’s an intellectual dimwit.
Tir – you typed about ‘his (Gandhi) word on Adams’ – see above.
Conveniently forgotten – because Gandhi never mentioned Adams?
Unable to admit an error!
“His” referred to Fr Alec Reid, as you’d know, had you read my previous posts leading up to that point. My only reference to Gandhi was to the Peace Award named after him, which was won by Fr Reid.
Clown!
Tir – typical shinner – when caught out, shut up.
Gandhi was millions of miles out of Adams’ league!
Its a shame for them to use both names in the same sentence.
Caught out?
My quote, in response to Williams attack on Fr Alec Reid’s character for simply being a Priest:
“Well this particular one was a central figure in the building of a successful peace process, who was also involved in numerous other peace processes worldwide and who received the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award amongst other international awards and accolades. I’d be inclined to say his word on Adams carries more weight than “Gravel Pitts”, or yours, or mine.”
For that to have been me speaking about Gandhi rather than Fr Alec Reid, then you are claiming that Gandhi was the winner of the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award?
Stop digging. Clown.
He has a C4 in chemistry.
Gravei, Tir just wiped the floor with you – now give over.
Gravel Pitt, it goes like this….(persons name) “you’re supposed to keep taking the tablets” But thanks for remembering my phrase, and copying it from one of my old posts.
Awwww PoB – another sinner avec the dead language….
O/
And who da f*** was Reid?
I for one have no idea who one should vote for the next general election.
Fine Gael being center-right and they’re very bad at it. Poor implementation of taxes, corrupt and unable to listen to the people.
Fianna Fáil, the party that got us into this mess, they are corrupt to the bone and pretend to be center-left when in truth they’re just like Fine Gael, to the right.
Labour, the party that abandoned it’s platform upon going into government with Fine Gael, harsh betrayal of the people also shown to be a bit corrupt as seen with Joan trying to raise salaries (dont quote me on the positions) but I think one was of her aide?
Sinn Féin, the party I would be the closest to supporting but just can’t seem to fully trust. They promise to get rid of water charges, rid of the Property charge at huge expense and their only means of re-gaining that money seems to be the wealth tax.. I agree with them the most, I like their TDs and the fact that they take the average industrial wage.
AAA – Protest group in my eyes, wary of their leadership..
Ironically, those doing so much waffling about Adams being “stupid” are the same people who’s semi-literate posts contain nothing but juvenile waffle about the IRA etc etc and who, when challenged with facts, can only seem to manage to respond through the medium of personal insults.
Its a fact that adams is stupid he even admitted it :D
He’s not stupid. You don’t make the PIRA army council by being stupid.
One dimensional? Absolutely.
I don’t mind his maths skills (or lack of). It doesn’t really matter.
I’d be more concerned about IRA membership, involvement in the murder of Jean McConville, his defence of “decent” IRA gunmen – just doing their job, robbing banks, killing Gardai, his role in moving his child abusing brother to Dundalk (where he could work in a youth club), etc etc.
post of the week
David, the psni questioned him for four days on his supposed IRA membership last year. They could produce no evidence what-so-ever. Did you forget to tell them what you know?
As for his “involvement in the murder of Jean McConville”, upon what evidence do you base this belief? Out of curiosity, why do you believe she was targeted?
“Oh, so it’s ok to kill a mother of 10 then? So long as you’ve the right reason?”
Putting words in my mouth is the best you can offer as a reply? Quote where I said it was OK to kill Jean McConville, like a good man.
Again, there are numerous conflicting stories and claims as to why she was targeted. I’m merely asking you, out of curiosity, to say which you believe to be the case.
Shinnerbots trampling on the grave of jean mc conville yet again. her only crime was compassion and the ‘decent’ IRA death squad murdered her as a show of strength. never will she be forgotten
Tír, the statement “Out of curiosity, why do you believe she was targeted?” seems to imply that her murder is defensible – ie something she did meant the great powers of the IRA council decided she should die.
Forgive me if that is a misinterpretation.
I just don’t think we should go around killing people. It really doesn’t matter what someone claims she did or didn’t do, I don’t think she should have been murdered. Do you?
Anyway, ignoring her murder, we’re back to the defence of IRA gunmen shooting gardai while robbing banks, and his lies about his paedophile brother.
“Tír, the statement “Out of curiosity, why do you believe she was targeted?” seems to imply that her murder is defensible”
It is a misinterpretation. If you want to hear me justify her death, you’ll wait an awful long time. Just because I believe the PIRA campaign was justified, doesn’t mean I have to believe every action they carried out was justified. Likewise, the Old IRA campaign as a whole was justified, but that doesn’t mean I have to believe their disappearing of over 200 (mostly innocent) people was justified. And 200 people disappeared in under 5 years is substantially worse than the 15 killed over 30 years by the Provos.
Leading to me repeating my initial question, again. You have openly accused Gerry Adams of having been involved in Jeam McConville’s death. What evidence do you have of this, and again out of curiosity, why do you believe she was targeted?
Shinnerbots trying to justify the murder of innocent civilians yet again. ye are a disgrace to humanity
I don’t have any idea why jean mcconville was murdered. Why does it matter? Is there a good reason to go around murdering unarmed women?
Let’s imagine that Gerry had nothing to do with it, we’re still left with his defence of bank robbers, murderers of Gardai, and his lies about his convicted paedophile brother.
“I don’t have any idea why jean mcconville was murdered. Why does it matter? Is there a good reason to go around murdering unarmed women?”
Again, did I suggest there is a good reason? No, I didn’t. I have already described it as unjustifiable. I am merely asking a question or two. You have openly made a direct and serious allegation that Gerry Adams was involved in her murder. Since you are so knowledgeable, I’m only requesting you explain how you know this, and since you believe you know that to be a fact, to explain your knowledge or opinion on why she was killed?
Again, if you look at your reply – you’ll see – the first sentence you copied. I don’t know why she was killed. I don’t know. I have no idea. I don’t think there’s a good reason to go around shooting people. You don’t think so either, so that’s good.
I’ll accept that Gerry has not been convicted of anything to do with her murder.
Now that we’ve gotten over that – What about his defence of bank robbers, murderers of Gardai, and his lies about his paedophile brother?
But we haven’t gotten over it. You stated that he was involved. You can’t change that simply by accepting he hasn’t been charged. I’m interested to know what evidence you have to back up your assertion that he was involved. As for why, well, I don’t doubt that you don’t know. I’d be slightly surprised if you didn’t have an opinion though, considering you have put it on record your supposed knowledge of who was involved.
So lying about his paedophile brother is ok? Hiding him down south in a youth club is ok?
Defending the murderers of Garda Gerry McCabe is ok? Because the cause deserves another few million? Decent IRA gunmen. Not that he would know anything about who is or isn’t in the IRA.
Calm down man, I’m asking you a straightforward question (again). You have accused Gerry Adams of being involved in her death. What evidemce have you to support this seriois allegation? Upon wjat evidemce are you basing it?
P.s. Interesting to see, yet again, a free stater shouting the names of the only two victims of the conflict that matter south of the border. I wonder, if you didn’t have google to resort to, could you name two or three victims of the british army/loyalist gangs quite as quickly. Mind you, I’d find your pretence to care about Garda McCabe slightly more believable if you knew how to spell his name. Jerry, not Gerry.
Now we know why SF economic policies are so harebrained, Gerry can’t do maths!
Proinsias – How are The Labour Party & iPhone Joan, doing at their Maths ?
Will they get past 6% of the Vote, in the upcoming General Election?
Will Arthur Spring have enough votes to hold his seat ?
polls and election change, alas baron adams intelligence is stuck at rock bottom
Sinn Fein, the Scientifically Illiterate People’s Party. They’re no good at Science either, otherwise they wouldn’t be opposing ALL scientific and medical bodies and opposing Water Fluoridation. SF is for the people who hated school and left early, or were thrown out.
PS The last thing we want is for an Economics graduate to run anything, they’re no good at Science either. It’s hard to know who bslluiths the most. Economists, Theologians, Marxists or Politicians. Read the following which is a lecture by the I am a Marxists/I’m not a Marxist Greek Finance Minster. Warning: Your brain might implode.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/18/yanis-varoufakis-how-i-became-an-erratic-marxist
Here’s an excerpt.
Besides having captured the basic drama of capitalist dynamics, Marx has given me the tools with which to become immune to the toxic propaganda of neoliberalism. For example, the idea that wealth is privately produced and then appropriated by a quasi-illegitimate state, through taxation, is easy to succumb to if one has not been exposed first to Marx’s poignant argument that precisely the opposite applies: wealth is collectively produced and then privately appropriated through social relations of production and property rights that rely, for their reproduction, almost exclusively on false consciousness.
I think we can agree that most local government representatives, independent or party members, have shown themselves to be on the side of the flat earthers/witch burners/anti-fluoride nuts, when given a chance. SF have been to the forefront, but there’s obviously not many thinking minds in many other parties.
Looks like you’re the only one who really knows the score William. All that knowledge must be a great burden for you.
David, the main parties seem to reply more on experts. The left seem to rely on blulhstit artists. It makes sense when you think about it. The left are ideologues. They are rampant in the Social Sciences where they read post-modern crap and because they can’t understand it, no one could as it’s rubbish, they just believe it. I genuinely see a great similarity between Theologians, Philosophers and Marxists.
Jim, thanks for your sympathy, unnecessary as it is, but it’s all just a question of simple logic.
Will, SF (and their supporters) do seem to have a thing for conspiracy theories – be it fluoride to placate the masses/jewish illuminati controlling the banks/Putin “liberating” Ukraine. But SF don’t have majorities on the county councils where they call for removal of water fluoridation – only fair to put the blame where it lies.
Dave, on DCC SF, the Loony Left, the Green Religion and Independents between them have 46 seats v 25 from FF/FF/Lab. It’s probably nearly as barking mad on the other councils. Imagine trying to explain the benefits of WF to Jackie Healy Ray? SF are the only party that has a policy of banning a major health measure that most suits their voters and their children. There’s mathematical logic for you.
PS That reminds me the Green Religion want to prohibit National Hunt Racing as well.
Jackie is dead so I can see how it would be difficult to explain WF to him .
I’m well aware he’s dead. My sentence was not time related, e .g. Imagine trying to explain the benefits of WF to Jackie Healy Ray in 2000?
If this government was any good at sums / maths then why did the German government do our last good few budgets for us?
vote SF time for change
I agree with your second statement.
would be the wrong change if gerry was counting :D
Batman, would that “change” include aping Cuba, that paradise of the Left? Or North Korea, that regime that was visited by and admired by the Shinners? I can see it now, use the Cuba model; double the number of doctors in the HSE by paying them a quarter of their salary, then stop them leaving the country by shooting them or imprisoning them and use herbal sCAM “Green” medicine instead of real medicine.
Great set of knashers on Gerry. Where did he go to get them done again?
For “I’m good at politics” read “I’m good at shyte-talking”. Luckily most people are smart enough not to fooled by it.
No they’re not. Look at the polls.
The thick folk will defend Gerry’s dreamlike grasp of reality to the hilt.
If he was in charge in Greece I wonder what his next move would be …
Elias, if he were not good at politics, would he have been able to build one of the worlds most successful post-conflict peace processes? Would he top the poll in every single election he stands in? Would his party be riding highest in the opinion polls despite having only 1 TD just three governments ago? Would he, yet again, be polling as the most popular leader in the country? Would he have overseen his party over treble it’s representation in the Dáil in the space of one election?
that peace project or whatever you call it is a UK matter, what has it to do with us? Its no wonder jorry made a balls of it after todays revelations :D
Mrgillhouley, that is the worst piece of stihe I ever heard you post so far and there are plenty I could name.
Mrgillhouley, You know nothing about Irish history or that half those in the 6 counties cut of from the rest of the 9 county Ulster are Catholic and Nationalist. They make up half the population of N. Ireland, do they not count at all…
Gerry says he’s not good at math and then proceed to tell us how good his policies are mathematically…. Wow, he really is a good politician, perfectly capable of contradicting himself…
everyone has their faults his maybe maths but for a lot of people its their strength.
Yea but everyone doesn’t say they should be running the country when they can’t even add.
So Gerry is now directly plagiarising Bertie?
SF are strangely proud of being stupid.
In fairness to him,26 was and is always 32!
Its ok Baron adams its not exactly news that you are a bit of a dunce
Although calling him Baron Adams confirms that you are an idiot.
You better be good at abolishing.
Seems the interviewer doesn’t know his Cyprus from his Syriza. ‘CIPRIS’ ? what’s that all about? Listen again.
SF/IRA/Jihadists are all out tonight, being good at maths when counting your dead is not so important as the next target is far more important to them. FARC, ETA and the rest of their friends rely on news crews to do the maths after their campaigns so Gerry and co just leave it to others to work out the numbers.
Gerry Adams: People shouldn’t be on trolleys in hospitals, taxation is too high, we need a sustainable housing market and return the economy to a growing, employment generating stable model with a reduction in poverty and a better off Ireland.
Interviewer: And how do you intend to achieve all of this?
Gerry Adams: Politics!
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