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The Daily PollAS YOU MIGHT have noticed, Ireland got a new political party yesterday.
Lucinda Creighton’s Renua plans to “govern in the sunshine”, and “is different in absolutely every respect to the old way of doing business”.
It created a lot of buzz on its first day (although sometimes for the wrong reasons, from Terance Flanagan’s car crash interview, to a spoof Facebook page gaining more likes than the official one), but we’ve several months to wait and see if this will translate into actual votes.
This morning we’re asking: Are you planning to vote for Renua in the next general election?
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Would be very difficult considering that they haven’t actually said what they stand for. Trying to be all things to all people ain’t going to work
They claim to be an “open party” with an “open stance” on many issues which really translates to “We’re really not quite sure where we stand on anything”
They definitely stand for anti abortion in any case. This includes a women who has been raped not being allowed to terminate the unwanted pregnancy.
Continuity Fine Gael.
Seems to be working for Sinn Féin going by their poll numbers. That’s despite all the controversy.
They’re a Fine Gael reject party who have said they would consider going in to coalition with Fine Gael! If I wanted Fine Gael then I would vote for Fine Gael!
They think they’re new but they’re just the same as all the other parties. They’ll promise you anything to get power but then they will turn their backs on you. It wasn’t like Creighton left Fine Gael because of what they were doing to the population, was it? It was because they offended her. She’s another ‘me,me,me,’ politician.
No would never vote for FG rejects. Thanks I will pass on this one.
what they stand for as they stated already is considering a super coalition between themselves ff and fg as they are all ex ff and ff members themselves
I want to ask Terrence Flanagan ! or should I ?
@liam .. No yet again you’re wrong , each member will be allowed to vote any way they want on that issue , Linda has made that clear . You are obviously referring to Linda’s personal views !!
Amazing, over 2000 people have said that they will vote for this new party, who as of yet have no policy on either education or health – go figure.
Liam Long,Thank God, they are Pro-Life, And I hope they are Pro Traditional Marriage as well.
2000 people will vote for them but she said they have 3000-3500 members who is lying. I no not all of them are on this site but just saying
As Stephen Donnelly would say “It’s not inevitable but it’s looking increasingly likely” … one for everyone in the audience, in other words!
You had nearly all the parties in in one form or another are ye going to put them in again. I’m not, but my vote is only one, so you need a mass change. I not going to go through what all parties promised but I will say they all walked away with their fat pensions while others after paying a lifetime to a pension walked away with little or nothing.Who wrote their terms and conditions of employment,answer themselves.
Just how GULLIBLE are the Irish voting public to even consider this. How many times do they have to be sucked in a spat out to learn… Anyone voting for these FOOL’s deserves to have their arms pulled off and be beaten with the soggy ends..
So people like you keep putting the same people in and expecting a different result. There is no one left to trust. Why not give someone else a chance. I also know what it takes to start a new party. You are right in what you say but I’m long enought around to know when we are being skinned alive. Do you know what It takes to get intelligent people to believe that the governments we had down through the resent years were for our good?. Millions through spin doctors and party handlers. Who paid for the crash, not one politician, some politicians said we all went mad spending, I didnt, but the people that did are not paying their debts. The ordinary joe soap is.
Being all things to all men worked for FF for many’s the year!
Not if I was held at gunpoint would I vote for any of these looneys…. The only goog thing about this party is that at least the loons are all in one place and easy to identify :)
@emperor – just like all the ‘mind controlled’ lefty commenters are on this page.
Spot on, emporer
What do you think it means when you put words in apostrophes like that?
Aligning with Eddie Hobbs was a huge mistake I’d never vote for him or a party he is involved in, and not just because I’m a public servant.
I agree, listening to him on The Late Late last night was cringe worthy.
No way, Fine Gael lite first opportunity she join forces with Enda
I don’t think FG would consider them at all. Lucinda Creighton is a loaded gun. Renua have no actual, firm agenda.
Ciaran, FG would consider any coalition that would get them into power again!
Untrue – they wouldn’t go near SF for a start, and based on yesterday’s Red C poll, FG/Lab popularity is growing, and so long as the economy continues to grow, so will their popularity. I would guess-timate that in the next election, should FG form the next Government, it will require a small number of independents.
Not a hope. Renua will mop up the grey catholic vote who turned their backs on FG for legislating for the X case. Thats why they’re not discussing policy.
If you haven’t heard it already, check out Renua TD Terence Flanagans car crash interview yeaterday….
https://m.soundcloud.com/john-baldwin-2/terence-flanagan-epic-fail
(Incidentally, does anybody else think their logo looks like a bird with two right wings? A delicious irony)
However, unlike other parties, they will not be enforcing a whip on matters of conscience, and as a party they do not have a stated position on abortion; some members are obviously against any kind of abortion, but others are pro choice. I don’t even know if they will run a candidate in my constituency (Wexford) but i would be open minded about voting in the next election. Sinn Fein’s candidate in Wexford has just been announced, he won’t have a national profile but he is a good man.
Jammin – did you and Jorry read the comprehensive article (about him) in the New Yorker, this week?
It should make the Sunday papers here – and makes some new and interesting allegations about his role in IRA bombings in the UK.
“…and makes some new and interesting allegations ”
Ooooh, ‘allegations’. Quick, lets throw his beardy ass in jail. Better still lets do it today, on the anniversary of the birmingham 6 being released.
Have a read ‘were jamming’ – http://renuaireland.com/#vision
Where’s all the religious stuff?
Have a read ‘jason’
Is that meant to mean something relevant ‘were jamming’? Or is it a little tale of a possible future under SF?
The New Yorker article will make interesting/good reading – for Jorry who will be the USA soon for St. Patrick’s Day.
But then again, he was never a member of the IRA – and certainly not the top dog!!!
Already published in UK papers, and with many new facts.
Jammin wil deny them all – before he reads it…..
“and with many new facts”
What ‘facts’, give us a good laugh ‘alan o’conor/bill rooney/david burke’ etc.
Read it!
Then tell us its all rubbish.
As usual….
Yes, Jammin will even dispute articles he hasn’t even read. A typical sinner. If there’s any criticism of Jorry and/or SF/IRA, its all lies. The word ‘fanatic’comes to mind – time and time again…
Can you point to information in that article which isn’t already in the public domain? Wheres these new ‘facts’?
Ironically, if FG didn’t impose a whip for votes on “matters of conscience”, Lucinda would still be a fully paid up member of that party. TD’s are elected to represent the interests of their constituents – not to use their position to embark on personal crusades once elected. If RENUA are so sure of their stance, then the right thing for them to do would be to resign their Dail seats that they were elected to as representatives of other parties, and contest the subsequent by-elections standing for RENUA.
Why bother telling you? No matter WHAT is proven and obvious, fanatics will either deny or dispute it.
SF/IRA NEVER did anything illegal….
Wouldn’t waste my time arguing with them jammin. You know theyre just wind up merchants who troll these sites for stories they can turn into attacks on sf. Boring tripe.
@Jason – Well done Jason. One of the only sensible comments on this page. Most of the other mind controlled commenters cannot see beyond their one ‘pet’ issue, usually abortion, where renua are concerned.
Ruairi Colton please explain your logic, Were Jammin comments with a full attack on Renua, and that’s fine in your eyes, but when anyone questions SF it’s “You know theyre just wind up merchants who troll these sites for stories they can turn into attacks on sf”
So in your mind you and your SF buddies should be allowed attack all round you but when it’s turned on SF, then it’s obviously Trolls.
Hypocrite
@Tom Kenny – ruairi is just another leftist parrot and is just reciting his 2 times tables that he has learned off. These leftist are like the Islamists in that they believe they have a right to criticise anyone, but God forbid if they themselves are criticised. Furthermore, anyone who does the criticism must be a troll in their world.
the evil SF cult has taken some battering in the polls jammin. the irish people must have issues with the systematic cover up of abuse?
@ Were Jammin. That interview (Flanagan) is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while. Thanks.
No matter what happens at the next election they will be in a minority and nobody will put up with them with their ideologies. Lucinda is in the game a long time and knows how politics works. I just feel that they are trying to patronise the Irish people. We all know that if these people get a whiff of power that they would sell their own grandmother, not to mind the Irish people.
Can you change that to “WHO would vote for renua?”
Are they paying for all this publicity? Unnecessary backbenchers form unnecessary party, and it’s all we hear about.
A new political party is a valid news story
Fine Gael – now with 100% more Christian fundamentalist conservatives hardly constitutes a new party, even with the cringeworthy name
@Shane – Rubbish mindless comment! A good dose of Islamic fundamentalism would snap you out of your lefty mind control.
Well, that’s like your opinion man
They have no policies that aren’t vague waffle yet
It’s a nice pay rise for Lucinda now she is a party Leader. #sickofpoliticians
I admire Jonathan Irwin and what he does but Eddie Hobbs will have me voting elsewhere.
Yeah I’d have to agree, he may be a vote better in middle earth, but not a good choice, if I was launching anything I would try and keep Bilbo as far away as possible.
Renua is to Fine Gael what the Tea Party is to the Republican party in the USA
Full of Mad Hatters?
The term is ‘Tea Baggers’. (they came up with it themselves, until they caught up it’s colloquial meaning). Hehe.
Mickey Mouse party with that absolute clown Eddie Hobbs at the forefront. No chance.
Renua Ireland – The Regressive Despots.
I’d rather stick a corn cob up a wild tigers behind … While stuck inside a telephone booth with it ..
But please #RENUA your final will and testament and remove skewers from corn cobb before approaching wild tiger…
Should have called it Nua Fine Gael or the non-progressive Democrats! !!!!!
Where’s the not a hope in hell option? This so called new party is the typification of everything that is wrong with Irish politics. From claiming to have new policies when actually having no policies. Renua Ireland party RIP.
Why is “Helllllll No!” not an option?
Enda in drag – no thanks !
Am I right to believe she is against same sex marriage & the right to abortion?
Here you go: http://renuaireland.com/#vision -”commit to supporting families of all types in a practical caring fashion.” And they’ve interesting proposals on child care too.
No
Jason, the leader of Renua won her seat in the current Dail running on a manifesto promising not to introduce a tax on the family home.
Why should we believe she won’t mislead us again?
http://www.slideshare.net/OfficialFineGael/fine-gael-manifesto-web
FG 2011 manisfesto – see article 61.
@Roxy No Roxy, you are wrong about that.
SF got in on a manifesto that valued child protection, we all know how that turned out
No why in Hell would i vote for that “woman” or her party of cretins.
Supported by the iona institute and the likes.. I wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.. Lucinda and her creetins..
@Sean – What’s you reference for that claim? …or did you just parrot it from some other mindless idiot.
Should read ‘Your’ not ‘you’
Your username should read: The Rude. Maybe you had too much Kahlúa.
If I’m going to be lied to I’d prefer if the lies were articulated better.
Creighton’s Cretins Conscience Party! CCCP. I’d rather vote for Satan.
Well he does share most of your opinions and political views.
Fail geal part 2 i reckon
I don’t understand the negativity towards Renua, the more choices the better. And give them a chance to set out their stall before making up your mind or having pointless polls such as this, just serving to maintain the sad status quo we have at the moment.
They’ve already set out their stall. They believe in religious right-wing policies. We have enough of those already.
Such as Jimbo? They actually have a free whip system for matters of conscience, they have pro life and pro choice members. The only people talking about religion are their detractors. I can’t say that I will vote for them, but I’m willing to be open minded about it.
Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are both right-wing Catholic parties. This really shouldn’t need to be spelled out for you.
I thought that they said they will not have a policy on “matters of conscious” it is one of their core principles.
Like them or not, why assign the one thing they have said is not policy to them?
Now being Fine Gael linked if elected they would likely renege on their promises, that would be more a reason not to vote for them.
But let’s applaud anyone who suggests doing things differently, you don’t have to vote for them but choices are good.
So you can’t point out their “religious” policies? Where did the set out their stall in relation to religion? Ireland is a Catholic country, don’t be surprised that members of parties are catholic, but there are also non religious member, CoI and even a Jew. Spell it out for me, show me where they have stated their right wing religious policies…
The party was formed by people who were kicked out of FG because of their backwards religious views. If you think that these people are going to suddenly have a change of heart then you are in for a surprise. It doesn’t matter what they state as being their policies, the past actions of their members says it all.
” Ireland is a Catholic country”
No, Ireland is a country where the majority of its citizens were baptised catholic. This is not the same thing. We are a secular republic, despite the God squads best efforts.
Yet you still can’t behind out the religious based policies that you claim this new party are running on. More hyperbole from ‘were jamming’ the monkey man.
Jason, I have no idea what you are trying to say there. I don’t care what they state their policies as being. Every party in this country lies to try get in to power. It is pointless using parties planned policies as a guide in who to vote for as none of them ever stick to their policies. Taking a look at the history of the people in this party is enough to convince me of the regressive, backwards policies they will implement if they get a whiff of power.
I’m not trying to say anything, you are, and I am asking you where they have set out their stall on religious policies, as you stated above.
How many times do I have to say it? For the third time – The people who formed this party left FG because they believe in backwards religious fundamentalism. It doesn’t matter what they state their policies are, the religious fundamentalism of their members will always govern what they would actually do if in power.
Saying Ireland is a Catholic country is akin to saying Earth is a Catholic planet or Mars is a robot planet seeing as it is the only planet inhabited by robots.
It’ss the fallacy of argumentum ad populum.
@Jason re:Jimbo – Don’t worry about Jimbo. He’s just another one of those under heavy mind control and is only parroting what has been programmed into him.
Its ironic that I, not the people who let a 2000 year old book rule my thoughts, have had my ideas “programmed into” me.
Jimbo that’s not true “they believe in backwards religious fundamentalism” Creighton & Hobbs have different views on abortion, 1 pro life, 1 pro choice, respect of differing views is the opposite to fundamentalism. So no matter how many times you say it, you are still wrong
Meet the new boss. The same as the old boss.
No way would I would for them as they are at the other side of the political spectrum to my views, but at least they are allowing free votes on issues of conscience. At least that’s a slight loosening of the whip, and all parties should consider it.
You only have to look at the voting record of the Renua members who are in government. They are pro-austerity, pro-welfare cuts, pro jobsbridge and zero hour contracts.
Why would I want to vote for that?
Maybe Eddie Hobbs’s soothing voice and humble personality will change your mind.
Where’s the ‘Not if I was drunk and stoned’ button?
I’m not voting for any of the main parties, they have enough automotons that’ll keep them relevant for an eternity, fg,ff, sf, lab all have a core vote who don’t care about policies, promises or five point plans…….they’ll just tick the box like their father/mother/granny/granddaddy did before them.
I’ll certainly not be given this rabble of wasters a vote, they’re already irrelevant.
@Dermot – you are irrelevant!
…..troll account.
Your opinion is worth very little.
Have a nice day.
@Dermot – I have no idea what you’re getting at with your ‘troll account’ reference.
Jayzuz lad….sorry, I just assumed you were a troll account and not the actual character from the movie The Big Lebowski.
@Dermot – That character isn’t a real person Dermot but I’m sure you knew that. But, nice try with the ad hominem troll reference, a classic lefty tactic.
This woman supported every tax and charge brought in by f Gael when she was minister including water property car health insurance and vat tax increases she even bought into the seismic shift by the EU on debt writedown and stood beside Kenny claiming it was a great day for Ireland. This, deal never mamaterialized it was shot down by Merkel. She’s was ejected from f Gael on one disagreement over abortion in fact she was a cheerleader for everything else they did and now she would try and have us believe that there is clear water between her and fg I have no doubt that if the situation arises she will support Kenny for taoiseach no matter what no red line for her
Not really a good start – an interview that was similar to something from Republic of Telly, and …………
Eddie Hobbs ……. on his eternal crusade to save the country again!!
#gettingdisposablenappiesready
Just heard Terence Flanagans interview on rte, hahahaha he’s a td for the new party but had no idea where the party stood on relevant matters, what about the paye people Terence?? Em em em!!!!!
Welcome to another mayfly political party.
Normally I do up a questionnaire for politicians before general elections ( about 30 questions) to find out where they stand on various issues that concern me. Not replying loses my vote. When I get replies, I decide on which politician is likely to represent my views.
Anything that splits the right wing FG vote is to be welcomed. .
Continually disillusioned with Irish politics. Not one single party in this country is worthy of a vote. Bunch of self serving clowns.
No I’ll not be voting for them or any of the other main stream parties come the next election.
Vote for what? Yesterday’s launch was an incoherent series of nonsensical soundbites. The people will decide if there is actually something to vote for. But now, there isn’t.
I would have considered a transfer until i read that they would be willing to go into coalition with fg. So absolutely not.
Renua wouldn’t be a Party I would gravitate towards politically However, I do believe that in a Democracy ALL voices and political opinion has a Right to representation in parliament. So I do wish them well. Not too well I might add!
But I have noticed that the bulk of the mainstream media has been touting them as virtual “king makers” in the next Dail. But that is either ignoring or forgetting the fact that Fine Gael via Leo and the Labour Party via everyone are committed to addressing the issues of the Repeal of the 8th Amendment and FFA. At which point Lucinda and her troops will slip off into the ether. So for the next Dail and until such time as these two issues are put to bed I can’t see them as anything other than a Party ( of supportive) Opposition.
If we needed a new party it wasn’t of this calibre that we needed.
I’m not voting for any party with a leader who can’t leave their religious beliefs out of politics.
I do not know enough about them yet but I do know that a lot of posters here would not vote for people that have not recently been involved in shootings and bombings or supported such actions.
Speaking of bombing and shooting, you still a big fan of Israel Paddy?
‘were jamming’ – spoofing again, changing the subject. Evading and insulting. Still a big fan of terrorism?
Says the guy with the terrorist state of ‘Israel’ emblazoned on his twitter page.
“were jamming” – do you agree with this statement:
“We are in favour of investment in our water infrastructure. It has been allowed to decay for generations. Access to safe, clean water is a basic necessity of life. We fundamentally disagree with how water charges have been introduced and will continue to do so until Irish Water has been radically reformed, and public waste eliminated.”
‘were jamming@ – Israel is a real place, the need for parenthesis are redundant.
No jason, I don’t agree with that statement. Its wording is straight from the FG playbook of allowing yourself wriggle room post election to squirm out of your commitments.
For example: “We fundamentally disagree with how water charges have been introduced…..”
In what way? Plus, the sentence means they support water charges, but may be takein a different way by somebody glancing through their policies.
Can you answer the question ‘were jamming’?
Apologies. You did.
Perhaps it would help move the conversation on if you both discussed water in Israel.
So you disagree, fair enough, water infrastructure doesn’t need investment then.
Water infrastructure needs investment, it’s being criminally ignored for decades but your question is loaded, people aren’t protesting about money going towards the upkeep and maintenance of water services, it’s more about where this new tax is going.
Irish water quango is a disaster and the last few years of ff and fg governments have propagated a serious amount of cynicism in the mind set of people, for all we know this water tax will go straight into servicing a debt we were lumbered with.
IF in ten years time and still have polluted water, leaks and creaky old lead pipes this cynicism will be justified.
let’s pay for it by adding another few % to VAT then
We’ll leave it there so Terence
Just what Ireland needs another right of centre party. not
Will I vote for Renua? Anything that annoys the liberal left – yes. And judging most of the comments here I might even run for the party!
Wil you be using your real name?
They have already changed their “vision” from yesterday. Yesterday under the Welfare heading they said they would imprison those who are not “self relient” . I take it that means the unemployed. So what we have is just another Fascist party trying to hide the truth of what they intend for the unemployed.
It’s good to see that Lucinda and co. identified the gap in the market for “floating vaguely around the center, populist” parties. Because we just don’t have enough of them.
Lucinda may have had some chance during the time of John Charles McQuaid. 40 years too late and Hobbs a major liability,
More of the same.
i WILL NOT VOTE FOR LUCIFERS LOVE CHILD LUCINDA, SHE IS FG & THEY HAVE PROVED THEY ARE RACIST FACIST FREAKS, THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF IRELAND, SO NO THANKS
Lucinda and co have voted in for every austerity measure, to vote for them is to vote for Fine Gael
Absolute parasites
I’d rather vote for satan
They seem to have the same ould friends as F.G. So in fact they are the Poor Dopes P.Ds of F.G.
As the P.D’s were to F.F. this party is to F.G.
How about starting off by agreeing to serve your time in office for a stated amount…you drive to the Dail etc outta your own wage…..you have no expense account….you’re doing the job for the betterment of the country and it’s people…at the end of each session we look at what you’ve done and reward accordingly….I doubt it!
You want to be ruled by rich people as a part time nixer?
That’s exactly what is happening now!
Massive demand for a new progressive party with fresh modern thinking and we get catholic mammys who left FG because they weren’t quite regressive enough. Only in Ireland.
Made up party , made up name, who havent a clue what their talking about or what they stand for. Late to launch and a freeze by a member on radio. Not great first impressions
Well that term has existed in Irish since at least the 12th century, of course Lucinda ain’t gonna be happy to know that it also means “New Moon” (as in the stage of lunar cycle), this is due to Ré also meaning moon, due to it’s association with time (and it’s passing).
So an appropriate name given that those who are gonna vote for it will be from the Loony Right!
As it stands this fine gael splinter group has 1500 votes, 1500 votes from nameless trolls.
Lol
12% of respondents to the poll are absolutely clueless.
Who in the name of God said, yes? What had Ireland turned too. Basically, smile, be nice and be trusting and the Irish electorate fall for it. I suppose the Celtic tiger wasn’t the only bubble we haven’t learned from!
There’s so many things wrong with that whole thing but I think the big mistake here is that the name makes them sound like a corporation and in the current climate, it’s not something that will sit well with people.
Better read her manifesto,where is it?
This is a joke poll? Right? I mean nobody in their right minds would vote for this lot!! FG round two!!
Over 2,000 people said they would vote for this shower! There really are some sheep in this country! A blind man can see that they are just FG in disguise, sur’ didn’t Linda Creighton vote for every austerity measure and agreed with property tax, water tax, the bank bailouts, and everything else. Please tell me how they differ from FG, Laobur or FF? I don’t get it !
Renua Ireland Party. R.I.P. That’s how dumb they are. Nuff said.
they should have called it AirRenua, showing their green credentials whilst also appealing to large numbers of Sinn Feins older supporters. Electoral crack, missed opportunity. Go on Lucretia
Vote for this party? Of course not.
I’d sooner exhume Charlie Haughy and vote for him
Renua, should have called it just “sameoldlou”!
I never vote fianna fail or labour, I will never vote Fine Gael again, so I’d give renua a vote. Something new is better than those 3, I’d give them a chance!
Why?
It’s a party still in its embryonic stage, they need to flesh out their policies first before one can look at them properly. It’s surprising how critical people are of them considering they are only starting out. Let them give some substance to their policies before scathing them, that at least would be the sensible approach. I noted that last night on Six One , Martina Fitzgerald had to come back at the question posed by the newsreader that their policies were lightweight, she replied that the party was only seven hours old.
Surely the base requirement of setting up a political party is to have policies?
You don’t set up a band and decide afterwards what style of music you’ll play.
Spot on Dermot, and now for Lucinda the fun begins as everything builds up for their first matrimonial row; as the usual national pastime (called the ‘narcissism of small differences) breaks them apart before the next election. Of all the possible policy platforms and pillars they could have run with, and after all this time as a reform alliance, and after all that money behind them as elected politicians, this sadly is a pretty weak kick off.
To be fair they seem to have more policies than AAA
Would give them no 3 it would be good if they split fg vote
they will use that to team up with fg, no votes
All they are is a wet dream for IBEC !!
Did anyone hear the latest from Lucinda the looney today? Well this is how desperate she is to get anyone’s vote. She is now saying that Irish water is a sham (which I’m sure most of us agree with) but get this, it was phil hogan and the unions who were behind it. So the whole water charges thing is the fault of public servants those dastardly evil baby eaters. And it gets better if she gets her way she’ll abolish Irish water and set up a new better organization to manage our water. So basically public servants bad, dismantle the thing that cist us a fortune to set up and set up another useless quango at a cost of another fortune. Where do I sign up Lucinda NOT.
For the ones that won’t vote for anyone, you must be living in lala land or else perfectly happy with everything without a single care in the world. One thing is for sure you have no right to open your mouth and complain about anything.
Yes. But only so far as I give a preference to all.
They’re, so far, ahead of the usual lot…
So top of the bottom of my ballot…
With women or individual candidates of merit getting some boost.
12% they’d take that I am sure..!
In a PR electoral system you should give a vote for everyone except for the last person you want elected. Do 65% really think that the Renua candidate will be the worst option?
Renua…………….a facial cream for the over 85′s.
@LoneHurler – Brilliant!
So funny to see Eddie Hobbs bricking it by stating that he won’t stand for election. With even the (very,very) remote possibility that he could end up having to make or endorse actual policies and not just pontificate to all on what should be done or what should have been done. This chancer has backed himself into a corner
Bloody stupid name for starters! All that time to decide and they come up with….. Renua!!!! For feck’s sake!
Fine Gael have found their progressive democrats
NEW ERA, Umm, errr, um, err, new era, um urr, TRUST, um, errrr! Ur, I forgot. POLICIES, errr, um
12% voting for! That’s really bad news for the independents who got a total of 27% in the Sunday Times opinion poll. That’s only 15% left for the rest of them!
With 12% saying yes, after 18,000 votes on this poll, they look a lot stronger than I expected
Reading their values and beliefs is compelling
A real openness to change and to outsiders from vested interests who care about our country, so I will support them
FG LITE
Wouldn’t vote for that shower if my life depended on it,
Endas side kick.
Let me think……..was I to judge them by their actions or deeds
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