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A sample of the ballot paper for the same-sex marriage referendum. Referendum Commission

The people in charge of the referendum are confident this ballot paper won't confuse you

That’s despite a very similar ballot paper confusing voters during the Seanad referendum two years ago.

THE REFERENDUM COMMISSION is confident that ballot papers for the two referendums taking place on 22 May, on same-sex marriage and the age of presidential candidates, will not confuse voters.

This is despite the ballot papers being similar to those which were found to have confused some voters during the Seanad abolition and Court of Appeal referendums in October 2013.

On that occasion, the commission found in subsequent polling that 13 per cent of those surveyed who said they voted Yes in in the Seanad referendum actually wanted to retain the upper house, while six per cent who said they voted No actually wanted to abolish it.

Referendum on Abolition of the Seanad Vo Ballot papers for the Court of Appeal and Seanad referendums in 2013 Mark Stedman / Photocall Ireland Mark Stedman / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Despite having recommended at the time that the government consider a review of how ballot papers are designed, the commission said today it is confident there should be no confusion this time around.

Commission chair Justice Kevin Cross admitted that the commission does not have any say over the design of the papers but added:

We are happy that there should be no confusion because one ballot paper is green and one is white and people can vote Yes or No to these referendums and the issues in these referendums are, we think, from a legal point of view, very straight forward.

On 22 May, voters will be asked to vote Yes or No on the proposal to legalise same-sex marriage and to vote Yes or No on the proposal the lower the age at which a person can run for president from 35 to 21.

These are the ballot papers that voters will be given:

referendums ballot papers Sample ballot papers for the two referendums taking place on 22 May. Referendum Commission Referendum Commission

Cross said that for the first time the commission is including sample ballot papers in its referendums guide being distributed to households across the country.

He said this guide also contains explanations of the proposals being put to voters.

He repeatedly insisted that voters should not be confused by the ballot papers on this occasion although acknowledged that the design of the ballot papers is not within the commission’s remit as they must be, by law, designed a certain way.

Cross also rejected clams that voters were confused by the ballot papers last time, saying this had been only “anecdotal evidence”. He added:

People certainly did say that they took a longtime to understand how they were voting, but I’m not sure whether it ultimately made any difference.

The Referendum Commission said it plans an extensive media advertising campaign to explain the proposals and urging people to vote.

Cross also encouraged people who may be uncertain as to whether or not they can vote to visit checktheregister.ie, saying they have until 5 May to register to vote, if they are not on the register.

A budget of €2.7 million has been allocated between the two referendums, lower than the €3.3 million that was provided for the referendums to abolish the Seanad and establish a Court of Appeal in October 2013.

October 2013: ‘We don’t really simplify things that are straightforward’: Ballot papers cause confusion

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:33 PM

    More CCTV in London, than anywhere. He’ll be on it…

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    Mute Irish Soccer Lad
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    Dec 6th 2015, 8:15 PM

    They still need all the footage they can possibly get.. CCTV only helps so much.

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    Mute Carina Clarke
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    Dec 7th 2015, 7:27 AM

    I always thought it used to be a terrorist attack if the perpetrator or perpetrators were foreign. Hence why in NI the IRA were classed as ‘the terrorist group IRA’ in the media and the UDA were simply ‘UDA’. Chances are this guy is British born with a British passport.

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    Mute Emer Daly
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:41 PM

    With all them people getton on and off the train why didn’t people help the poor man???

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    Mute Mark Ryan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:47 PM

    Because in a crisis or serious incident, the first thing people do these days is get their phones out to record it……. As soon as the police arrived and cuffed the man there were loads of heroes who wanted to have a go

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    Mute Paul Friday Shannon
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:48 PM

    Everyone for there own here people though he could blow himself up

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    Mute Oisin O'Riordan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:49 PM

    Muslim extremists are known to blow themselves up.

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    Mute Beachmaster
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:50 PM

    Because most unarmed people are not trained or capable of disarming and subdduing a lunatic with a knife.

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    Mute AARO-SAURUS
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:57 PM

    Very easy to sit behind a screen and say that. Would you bravely take on a lunatic wielding a knife, potentially costing you your own life? I’ll be honest, I’m not sure I would. Thoughts of my family having to deal with it etc.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:57 PM

    Somebody did help help. The assailant was punched and pinned to the ground:m.

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    Mute John Moylan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 6:50 PM

    ..maybe it’s something we need to consider then…knife attacks getting too common here too.

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    Mute Maria Hickey-Fagan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 9:04 PM

    my first thought would be my children at home. I wouldn’t take on a lunatic with a knife

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    Mute bingo
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    Dec 6th 2015, 9:46 PM

    But Maria, If you were the victim and you were being violently attacked – wouldn’t you be hoping someone would step in (or several people would step in) so that you could see your children again!?

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    Mute Tom Voz
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    Dec 7th 2015, 1:17 AM

    In Europe citizens have been completely disarmed by the government. For some unknown reason it is even illegal to carry any weapon (not even pepper spray) for self-defence purposes. We are defenceless in the face of armed fanatics. No surprise nobody wants to help: bare hand against a knife? No thanks…

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    Mute John J Kelly
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    Dec 7th 2015, 2:22 PM

    i saved a drunken irish girl from an afgan one night, i got no thanks, apparently she laughed at it the next day. he was trying to bring her along with him, linked by the arm. her friend asked me to stick around, i can still remember the evil look of pure hate on that mans face when he told me to go away and mind my own woman. i have never been able to view islam in the same light since to be honest.

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    Mute Richard Free
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:47 PM

    It’s a pretty sad reflection on society today, that people will whip out their phones to film an attack rather than help the victim.

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    Mute Gemma Shah
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    Dec 6th 2015, 6:01 PM

    Did you ever watch Black Mirror? They’re all thought provoking, but there is one about a woman who wakes up with no knowledge of who she is, she is running through the streets looking for help, but people just film her on their phones.

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    Mute Richard Free
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    Dec 6th 2015, 8:22 PM

    Sounds interesting, will keep an eye out for it. Thanks Gemma.

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    Mute Oisin O'Riordan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:41 PM

    “London tube stabbing attack” that should read “London tube terrorist attack”.

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    Mute sam 987123
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:47 PM

    The profiling of all male Muslims between the ages of 19 to 29 won’t be far off

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    Mute Oisin O'Riordan
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:49 PM

    Would be sensible in fact. They’re unhinged at this stage.

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    Mute Robert Preston
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:52 PM

    Sm 987123 It wont happen in the UK .

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    Mute MBA Tosser
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:13 PM

    Idiotic. Read some history and some perspective.

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    Mute sam 987123
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:45 PM

    Read some history and get some perspective. I have done thanks. And history points to this as being a logical step. But thanks for your idiotic input moron

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    Mute sam 987123
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:47 PM

    You’re probably correct. Instead they’ll probably implement more Internet “controls” on everyone else as a “safety ” precaution

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    Mute Robert Preston
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    Dec 6th 2015, 9:38 PM

    Why so many red Thumbs . Its the truth . Cameron and his lot wont let it happen .

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    Mute Derek
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:48 PM

    I think it’s interesting how this is constantly classed as a terrorist attack in every article and news bulletin when it looks like one mentally deranged man with a knife screaming his cause is for Syria after hearing about it on the news, it’s the lone reasoning of a nutter and it’s not like it’s the only knife attack that happened over the last week in the UK, there were many as usual, just the only one who mentioned something political and we are getting endless coverage and updates about a single small every day incident which is being used by the media to fan the recent flames of fear and the threat of terror to justify the UK ‘s involvement in the Syrian proxy conflict.

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    Mute JimmyMc
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    Dec 6th 2015, 6:20 PM

    You think it’s interesting, sounds familiar ‘Derek’. It sounds like you’d prefer if the details or motivation behind this attack were not discussed or established, as they would be if it was motivated by robbery or hate. The facts speak for themselves here, an attack on commuters made in the name if Syria a couple of days after Britain commence bombing Syria, it is significant and not just another london stabbing.

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    Mute Derek
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    Dec 7th 2015, 12:48 AM

    The officer that tazed him is heard shouting “drop it you fool”. It took 3 attempts at tazering him to detain him as if he was on drugs or a somehow slow. No one other than the BBC and other foreign media outlets are claiming to call it a terrorist attack. This is one twisted moron who happens to be Muslim. But ‘JimmyMc’ that’s the reason your on here to push for more hatred and vilification of all Muslims where I’m simply stating what my opinion is based on the video, the response by media and little else. Very few others online are making a big deal of it. Seen as yet another stabbing my a thug. There’s no statement from Downing St or the government like after an actual terrorist attack. You and the mob who have taken over from the once semi rational commenter are no better than your typical lynch mob waiting for a reason to come on here with the mention of muslims. Id rather discuss the facts and await further information than jump on the bandwagon. If the next guy who knifes someone is claiming it’s for the Palestinian conflict or the current price of a packet of Tux biscuits would you be as quick to call it a terrorist attack? He was kicking the hell out of one man on the ground and then attacked him with a knife, it makes headline news on CNN and of course gets mentioned by BBC but they still make the flooding and storm top story.

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:00 PM

    Hardly a terrorist attack though. One unhinged lunatic attacking people shouting a slogan is not the work of a terrorist organisation. Similarly if an Irish person in the 80′s assaulted an English person shouting “Up the ‘RA” it would hardly have been considered a terrorist attack.

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    Mute Malcolm Lackey
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:20 PM

    People were terrified, and terrorized, so yes it is a terrorist attack!

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    Mute Pauliebhoy
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    Dec 6th 2015, 8:28 PM

    So that makes every attack a terrorist attack then

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    Mute Frank's Cat
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    Dec 6th 2015, 8:30 PM

    Malcolm, that definition of terrorism would cover just about every military action.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:47 PM

    Is there not a stabbing every day in London?

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    Mute JimmyMc
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:52 PM

    At least , but few are indiscriminate terrorists on commuters trying to get home

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 6th 2015, 3:59 PM

    Sorry it’s Sunday. The head is a little hazy

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    Mute MBA Tosser
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:12 PM

    So nobody helped him then. They just pretended not to notice and walked on. Selfish society.

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:19 PM

    Tosser is right…

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    Mute Robert Cummins
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    Dec 6th 2015, 4:36 PM

    Google bystander effect. Not only is this common all over the world, it is to be expected

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    Mute Jackie Caruana
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    Dec 6th 2015, 10:28 PM

    People tried to throw things at him. Someone threw a bottle, it says in the article. Would you confront someone with a knife, someone who had already shown that he’ll use it. Serious keyboard warriors on here!

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    Mute Caoimhghín Ó Tuama
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    Dec 7th 2015, 12:39 AM

    Back in July, a neo nazi in Stoke chased down a random Indian guy and stabbed him in the neck
    in a supposed revenge for Lee Rigbys murder. There was no wall to wall to coverage of it, and there certainly wasn’t anyone calling it a terrorist incident, because people were able to rationalise it as one lunatic who lost his mind.

    As someone who lives 5 minutes up the road Leytonstone I don’t feel like it’s a terrorist incident. It’s a lunatic going out attacking random people, which is, sadly enough, a common enough occurrence in this part of London.

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    Mute Carl Hale
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    Dec 6th 2015, 7:49 PM

    Very easy to be a hero if your not there. Real life heros are different to keyboard heros.

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