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THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY mural that has adorned the side of a building on Dublin’s George’s Street has become damaged.
Parts of the mural have peeled away due to the turbulent weather over the past few days.
‘The Claddagh Embrace’, by Irish artist Joe Caslin, went up earlier this month above Rick’s Burgers on the corner with Dame Street.
After the poster went up a complaint letter was sent to Dublin City Council saying that the image was a breach of planning as no permission had been sought to put it up and that it was on a listed building.
According to The George Bar’s Facebook page, the poster has started coming down due to the weather, with it saying:
Such a shame the mural has started to come down itself! No one took it down. It was made of biodegradable paper.
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Biodegradable paper….does exactly what it says on the tin.
HI I’M BARRY SCOTT!
In response to video released by Mrs. Browne yesterday, No campaign herald Our Lord for intervening in campaign.
Isn’t all paper biodegradable?
@Dermot – No. For example, the paper they use for monthly train tickets has a tough thin layer of plastic in the middle. As do a lot of posters.
A touch of pedantry Neal never goes amiss.
I’m just trying to share the riches of my collected wisdoms!
Eventually everything biodegrades, it’s just a question of time, sometimes millennia
The God of Iona is angry.
They should have put up a mural of one guy kicking another guy’s head in. That’s more acceptable…..apparently.
THE facts about the referendum on marriage equality
There are only two things that I agree with on the no side. One check the facts and two go out and vote. The rest couldn’t be further from the truth.
The referendum has noting to do with parenting.
Gay people are and will continue to be parents weather the referendum pass or not. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change
THAT IS A FACT
A no vote will only harm children as a no vote will deny the children that are been raised by same sex parents the opportunity of having constitutional protection for their families. That is not fair on these children.
THAT IS A FACT
Surrogacy has noting to do with this referendum.
Both Gay and straight parents have the same rights in relation to surrogacy. Fare more straight parents are and will continue to use surrogacy to bring new life into the world. A yes vote will have no impact on motherless or fatherless children. Babies are not been made to order for gay or straight parents as there will be no commercial surrogacy as a result of a yes vote for gay or straight couples. A no vote will have no bearing on surrogacy laws. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
The Referendum has noting to do with adoption.
Gay couples can do and will continue to be considered as perspective adoptive parents. The adoption agency of Ireland will still place the best interest of a child as their first and foremost priority. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change
THAT IS A FACT
The referendum has noting to do with religion. No religion or church will be forced to conduct a same sex wedding or be forced to allow their premises be used for a same sex wedding. The referendum is about civil marriage not religious marriage or the sacrament of matrimony A no vote will have no bearing on that. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
The families of same sex couples are already recognised in law In the event of a yes vote should same sex parents marry their families will have constitutional protection as do all families were the parents are married. Family law will not change for the families of straight Married Couples. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
Marriage and Religious Freedom
Straight marriage will not be changed there is no change to the definition of marriage. It will remain as it is. A new sentence will be added to article 41 of our constitution as follows “Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex.” This additional sentence will mean same sex couples will be allowed to marry noting less noting more. It dose not change what marriage is. No body else is marriage will be effected. Straight people will still be able to marry as they do now, in a church or have a civil marriage which ever is their preference as it always has been. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change for straight person’s marriages either existing ones of future ones.
THAT IS A FACT
Religious freedom rights and conscience.
The law in relation to religious freedom will not change. It will remain exactly as it is. There are nine grounds in which Irish law prohibits discrimination Religion is one of these and so is sexual orientation. The no side refers to a bakery in Northern Ireland that was found in breach of discrimination law as they refused to decorate a cake promoting gay marriage. The bakery claimed that to decorate such a cake was discrimination against them on the grounds of religious freedom as they could not support gay marriage. The bakery was not asked to support same sex marriage. They offer services to the public one of which is to decorate cakes they refuse to supply service based on the sexual orientation of those who the cake was for. That is discrimination.
Had the bakery been asked to bake a cake for a group of obese people and refused to do so on the grounds of religious freedom as they could not support gluttony ( gluttony is considered to be one of the seven deadly sins in Christianity ) They offer services to the public one of which is to bake cakes. If they refuse to supply service based on the persons body size and weight of those who the cake was for they would also be found to have discriminated against a group of people even tho obese people are not directly protected by discrimination laws.
Can you imagine the public out cry if a bakery were to refuse their services to obese people? It would be far fetched to believe that this could happen or that the bakery has ever refused service to obese persons. It can only be concluded that the bakery refusal was based in homophobia as it chose to discriminate on the grounds of what it sees as a sin but dose not discriminate on what its religion deems to be a far greater sin. Note there is no same sex marriage in Northern Ireland which makes this point on of the no side irrelevant.
A no vote will have no bearing on Religious freedom rights and conscience. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
There will be no major changes as I have out lined above. The no side says there will be that is clearly not true. A yes vote will allow gay couples to marry noting more or noting less. All law in relation to straight people will not change nor will there standing in the constitution. A no vote will have no bearing on straight people. Noting will change for them.
THAT IS A FACT
Marriage equality has constantly called for an honest and open debate. It is wrong for the no side to claim that they are being shouted down. Refuting their false claims is not bulling or shouting any body down. If anything making false claims about what the referendum is bulling. All false claims are coming from the no side. The yes side has never called anybody who has genuine concerns about the referendum a homophobe. However those on the no side who deliberate and knowingly who make false claims about the referendum put them self’s in a position that deserves questioning as to weather their motives derive from homophobia or not.
THAT IS A FACT
To summarise.
The no side would have us believe that this referendum is about how it will affect straight marriage and about children. It is not the referendum has noting to do with children wether they are entitled to a mother and father or not. No laws in relation to children of gay or straight parents will change. No laws as to how children are brought into this world will change. Straight marriage will not change in any way. This referendum is about allowing gay people to marry noting else. The only effect a yes vote will have is that same sex couples and there families will have an opportunity to have constitutional protection for their relationships and families through marriage. Bear in mind they all ready have this in law but with out marriage they have no constitutional protection that other families enjoy where the parents are married.
THAT IS A FACT
VOTE YES FOR A BETTER IRELAND
I dont believe equality is possible, can you tell me from your understanding what that means.
@david
It has been explained to you ad nauseam, that equality means everyone should be treated equal before the law, but you’re not getting this in your head.
@ Pontius Pilatus Can you explain to me how exactly family law will change for the families of straight Married Couples?
@ David Nolan. Marriage equality means the quality or state or value of status are the same.
Cane you explain why you believe why equality is not possible?
Ghost II
Is that a fact?
Gayper
James Joseph
If its not going to change, why does the constitution have to be changed ?
Er, to extend the contract to people who happen to be of the same sex? I would have thought that was quite obvious Gerard. All the heterosexual marriages and laws surrounding them stay the same, just gay couples will also be able to get married.
If only Breda O’Brien was bio-degradable & disappeared as easy…..
Technically she is, she just has a longer sell-by date. Her ideas bio-degraded before she was even born mind, think about that conundrum.
It is a sign from our Lord.
You must join my Iona Cult with Breda ,David and the gang or the guy with the pointed stick will torment you forever in the land of fire.
Forget about your logic, just obey my cult.
Plus i’m exempt from tax so i’ll sort you out!!!!!
More comments from the intolerant left where only one opinion is allowed.
At least the yes side’s opinion is not based on lies that has nothing to do with the referendum.
The Yes side are so much more fun. Fire with marshmallows rather than brimstone.
Another intolerant attempted put down by the gay mafia – to suppress all viewpoints that is not in alignment with the yes campaign.
Bigotry should always be suppressed and stamped out at every opportunity.
No tolerance for the intolerant.
@ The Dude The few point of the no side have noting to do with this referendum. Can you at least tell me one point that the no side have put forward that has anything to do with the referendum. The fact that the yes side can prove the no side to be wrong dose not make us intolerant nor dose it make us the mafia. Here is a list or the lies told by the no side and the truth of the matter about all of their points. Prove me wrong.
THE facts about the referendum on marriage equality
There are only two things that I agree with on the no side. One check the facts and two go out and vote. The rest couldn’t be further from the truth.
The referendum has noting to do with parenting.
Gay people are and will continue to be parents weather the referendum pass or not. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change
THAT IS A FACT
A no vote will only harm children as a no vote will deny the children that are been raised by same sex parents the opportunity of having constitutional protection for their families. That is not fair on these children.
THAT IS A FACT
Surrogacy has noting to do with this referendum.
Both Gay and straight parents have the same rights in relation to surrogacy. Fare more straight parents are and will continue to use surrogacy to bring new life into the world. A yes vote will have no impact on motherless or fatherless children. Babies are not been made to order for gay or straight parents as there will be no commercial surrogacy as a result of a yes vote for gay or straight couples. A no vote will have no bearing on surrogacy laws. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
The Referendum has noting to do with adoption.
Gay couples can do and will continue to be considered as perspective adoptive parents. The adoption agency of Ireland will still place the best interest of a child as their first and foremost priority. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change
THAT IS A FACT
The referendum has noting to do with religion. No religion or church will be forced to conduct a same sex wedding or be forced to allow their premises be used for a same sex wedding. The referendum is about civil marriage not religious marriage or the sacrament of matrimony A no vote will have no bearing on that. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
The families of same sex couples are already recognised in law In the event of a yes vote should same sex parents marry their families will have constitutional protection as do all families were the parents are married. Family law will not change for the families of straight Married Couples. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
Marriage and Religious Freedom
Straight marriage will not be changed there is no change to the definition of marriage. It will remain as it is. A new sentence will be added to article 41 of our constitution as follows “Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex.” This additional sentence will mean same sex couples will be allowed to marry noting less noting more. It dose not change what marriage is. No body else is marriage will be effected. Straight people will still be able to marry as they do now, in a church or have a civil marriage which ever is their preference as it always has been. A no vote will have no bearing on this. Noting will change for straight person’s marriages either existing ones of future ones.
THAT IS A FACT
Religious freedom rights and conscience.
The law in relation to religious freedom will not change. It will remain exactly as it is. There are nine grounds in which Irish law prohibits discrimination Religion is one of these and so is sexual orientation. The no side refers to a bakery in Northern Ireland that was found in breach of discrimination law as they refused to decorate a cake promoting gay marriage. The bakery claimed that to decorate such a cake was discrimination against them on the grounds of religious freedom as they could not support gay marriage. The bakery was not asked to support same sex marriage. They offer services to the public one of which is to decorate cakes they refuse to supply service based on the sexual orientation of those who the cake was for. That is discrimination.
Had the bakery been asked to bake a cake for a group of obese people and refused to do so on the grounds of religious freedom as they could not support gluttony ( gluttony is considered to be one of the seven deadly sins in Christianity ) They offer services to the public one of which is to bake cakes. If they refuse to supply service based on the persons body size and weight of those who the cake was for they would also be found to have discriminated against a group of people even tho obese people are not directly protected by discrimination laws.
Can you imagine the public out cry if a bakery were to refuse their services to obese people? It would be far fetched to believe that this could happen or that the bakery has ever refused service to obese persons. It can only be concluded that the bakery refusal was based in homophobia as it chose to discriminate on the grounds of what it sees as a sin but dose not discriminate on what its religion deems to be a far greater sin. Note there is no same sex marriage in Northern Ireland which makes this point on of the no side irrelevant.
A no vote will have no bearing on Religious freedom rights and conscience. Noting will change.
THAT IS A FACT
There will be no major changes as I have out lined above. The no side says there will be that is clearly not true. A yes vote will allow gay couples to marry noting more or noting less. All law in relation to straight people will not change nor will there standing in the constitution. A no vote will have no bearing on straight people. Noting will change for them.
THAT IS A FACT
Marriage equality has constantly called for an honest and open debate. It is wrong for the no side to claim that they are being shouted down. Refuting their false claims is not bulling or shouting any body down. If anything making false claims about what the referendum is bulling. All false claims are coming from the no side. The yes side has never called anybody who has genuine concerns about the referendum a homophobe. However those on the no side who deliberate and knowingly who make false claims about the referendum put them self’s in a position that deserves questioning as to weather their motives derive from homophobia or not.
THAT IS A FACT
To summarise.
The no side would have us believe that this referendum is about how it will affect straight marriage and about children. It is not the referendum has noting to do with children wether they are entitled to a mother and father or not. No laws in relation to children of gay or straight parents will change. No laws as to how children are brought into this world will change. Straight marriage will not change in any way. This referendum is about allowing gay people to marry noting else. The only effect a yes vote will have is that same sex couples and there families will have an opportunity to have constitutional protection for their relationships and families through marriage. Bear in mind they all ready have this in law but with out marriage they have no constitutional protection that other families enjoy where the parents are married.
THAT IS A FACT
VOTE YES FOR A BETTER IRELAND
@TheSpinDoctor – Maybe so, but those on the left such as yourself (who see themselves as The gatekeepers of all morality), reframe and redefine bigotry as anything spoken or written that is not in alignment with leftist doctrine. i.e. Anyone who disagrees.
@Superior – Thanks for that copy and pasted opinion piece. Nevertheless, your Yes vote will be cancelled out by my NO.
@ The Dude. It is not a copy and past of an opinion piece. They are FACTS that I have written out my self. Some thing that i can do as i have a working knowledge of what the referendum is about.
Again I ask you Can you at least tell me one point that the no side have put forward that has anything to do with the referendum?
In the light that you clearly cant. I can only assume that your no vote is based on your homophobic attitude. Shame on you Sir
@Superior – Nice try, using the catch all ‘homophobe’ remark in order to silence and intimidate. I am voting no as I have concerns about marriage being redefined into something it can never be, regardless of what the government or any referendum says it is. My position on this matter is based on my beliefs as a Christian. If this makes me a bigot or homophobe (whatever that is supposed to be) then so be it – but I will not compromise my Christian beliefs for you or anyone else. Regards.
@James,Larissa
Im asking you what your understanding is of equality is because, I don’t think equality is possible, the political parties have posters up, with logo’s like let’s treat everbody equal, and another one is equality for everybody.
But both of these logo’s are directed at everybody when in reality, this really doesn’t include everybody.
There are marginalised people out there that won’t feel anything from this, so I don’t see how equality is possible.
The sooner you crazy religious motherf#ckers die out the better.
@ The Dude. My use of the word homophobia has noting to do with Silence and intimidating. It is merely stating a fact as you clearly have decided to vote no on a referendum you know noting about and have not bothered to find out.
Marriage will not be redefined. Marriage will remain as it is. Nothing about it is changing. Marriage will still be marriage no mater who can legally a vale of it.
The referendum is about opening marriage to same sex couples as it was in the time that Christ was here on earth and for hundreds of years after his death. In fact the word homosexual didn’t come into existence for hundreds of years after the death of Christ. Google it. If you are unwilling to do that i can provide you with the evidence. While Christ was here on earth he never had any thing to say about homosexuality to despite that same sex unions were common at that time. Is that not a bit odd. To say that you are voting no is has noting to do with Christ. No true Christian would vote no to love. To do so is not only homophobic it is christaphobic. How dare you use Christs name, a man who spock of noting else but love as an excuse to preach your hate.
In any case Church matrimony has noting to do with civil marriage. The church deals with what it calls the sacrament of matrimony. After the sacrament of matrimony has been performed the priest traditionally facilitated the sining of the civil marriage register on behave of the state. They them selfs have resiliently signaled that they would no longer provide this service for the state should the referendum pass. so you see they are two completely diffrent things.This is a vote on civil marriage and has noting to do with any so called religious believe. If you new anything about the referendum or your own religious believes you would know that.
@The Dude have to ask a few questions about your Christian belief. Do you sacrifice a goat every sabbath? As it says in the bible. Do you own slaves? Have you ever burnt a witch? Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Do you have any books with pictures, photos or status, paintings family portraits? Remember no grave images. Do you own any slaves? Do you beat your wife, daughters on a regular basis? Have you ever stoned anyone to death for working on the sabbath?
Science absolutely, 100% tells us that there is a distinction between men and women that Is an undeniable FACT.
Contained in The referendum wording are the words without distinction as to their sex.
Now there may be no distinction between identical twins.
And a dog does not know whether its owner is male or female. And thats just down to a dogs limited intelligence.
@ David You will stop at noting to try and confuse the issue.
This referendum is about marriage equality. If you can’t understand that it is marriage equality that the posters are referring to in am sorry but I am not qualified to teach those with intellectual disabilities. But due to our evolving equal opportunity system there are those that are qualified and willing to help you with that. All that I can do for you is point out your confusion in relation to the marriage equality referendum may stem from the false information which has noting to do with the referendum that have been put forward by the no side throw all media outlets.
My understanding of equality in relation to this referendum will allow for a constitutional change so that Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex. Put simply it allows same sex couples to have a equal opportunity to marry much like you have a equal opportunity to a education even tho you appear to have intellectual disabilities.
I hope this answers your question.
Yes David. There are two generally accepted genders. Well done.
The use of the phrase “without distinction as to their sex” refers specifically to the marriage contract, which previously was interpreted by a court to require a distinction on the basis of the sex of the parties to the contract.
Either you know this well and are merely attempting to confuse people, or you are having some very convoluted interpretations of the English language, if anything I would commend your creativity.
Dude, the Bible has some interesting concepts of marriage and I for one am glad we no longer follow them – a rapist must marry the woman he raped and pay her father. To me as a woman this is a horrific prospect, but the God of the Bible seems not to care for women. After all, we are merely chattel in “traditional Marriage”. Is this what you seek to preserve?
Or are you more on the “let he among you without sin cast the first stone” and “love one another as I have loved you” side of the Christian faith?
James J P
If the constitution changes, laws have to change to reflect that, this will give the government carte blanch to change laws.
Stop lying Joseph.
The only law they get to change are ones directly relating to the wording of the constitution. Eg, relating to the gender requirements or the number of people party to marriage.
They have no mandate to amend laws beyond that on the back of this referendum.
@Superior – So now you are an expert on the bible, as well as on the referendum? Christ affirmed marriage as being between a man and a woman when he said “a man shall leave his mother and father and they shall become one flesh”. You can also read Romans chap 1 v 26-27. As far as love is concerned, please stop putting words in christ’s mouth. When he spoke of love he was not referring to sexual relations between men or between women.
@thomas maher – Thomas, if I was an Old Testament Israelite I may very well have had to adhere to those laws – as they were specifically written to the ancient Israelites. Such laws do not apply to the New Testament Christianity which has replaced the old. Also for your information. What is referred to as slavery in the OT was not chattel slavery but rather voluntary, usually to pay off a debt and these servant were normally treated quite well.
@Shanti – Like Thomas, you are also referring to old testament law written specifically to the ancient Israelites. Regards.
Right so, what did Jesus have to say about the subject precisely? Did he tell you to specifically vote to deny civil marriage to homosexuals?
@Shanti – Yes he appeared to me personally in a burning bush at the foot of my bed one night.
@ The Dude. I don’t claim to be an expert on the bible. However it is clear I know a lot more about it than you. When Christ said “a man shall leave his mother and father and they shall become one flesh”. That was not affirming marriage as being between a man and a woman. He was affirming that Straight marriage was between a man and a women. He said noting ab out same sex marriage. Maybe straight people needed more supervision back then. I don’t know.
As regards Romans chap 1 v 26-27. Take a look at this link and you will find the truth as to its meaning.
http://skippingtothepiccolo.com/2006/09/10/christianity-homosexuality-part-2-of-8-romans-126-27/ It is not I who put words in Christs mouth you are the one that did that when you said your position on this matter is based on my beliefs as a Christian.
Whats interesting about the references coming from non belivers and athiests, is that in mathew 4 the temptation of christ, the devil uses scripture (truth) to facilitate his plan to seduce Jesus.
It’s a predominant part of these debates now.
What Im hearing are different interpretations. And evident words of seduction.
GOD said NO
To equality?
God doesn’t believe in equality, sure hasn’t he a chosen people?
Yeah he does and look how he treats them, I wouldn’t trust this God person, he seems like a cranky and sadistic aul chap
It’s a dull, ugly corner. The mural really jazzed it up. It’s a pity it’s coming down.
Ricks do savage burgers too.
They do :D
Not nearly as much damage that the No Campaign inflicted on themselves with their ridiculous posters.
If anyone would like to *ahem* view *ahem* the NO posters there are quite a few up around the train station in Cork.
Mitchlestown and Fermoy were the same.In fairness most of the people who are pulling them down have nothing to do with the yes campaign.I know one single mother who’s just not voting at all waging a one woman war to pull them down in Mayfield.She has every little gurrier in the estate pulling them down.They’re just offensive full stop.
The Lord’s verdict – bet someone actually proposes this sort of nonsense.
Must have used woodies paint
Advertising opportunity for Ronseal?
@ Drew,….. dem to lads got a divorce…
Curse you homophobic weather… You should be ashamed!
So after all the days and days of fuss and about planning permission, nobody thought to mention that it’s just paper? Jesus wept.
I know this is unlikely to be a popular comment, but here goes;
If this is now falling away from the wall as large sheets in front of motorists, obscuring their view at the city’s busiest pedestrian crossing, it may well pose a serious hazard to public safety.
It’s for reasons like this that there is a planning regulation process.
The fixture may have been exempt under Article 14 which allows for political postering (pestering?) prior to an election or referendum. Yet in instance such as this – affecting a listed building & particularly seizable in nature – the artist should have realised the reasonable thing would have been to approach Dublin City Council.
The council may well have asked him as to the durability of the materials he was proposing, given the wall is also west facing – and attracts the prevailing winds and rain. The council is there to assist, and I believe in this instance, the artist would have found the planning department helpful, and a certificate of exemption could have been issued.
Instead of this, the artist directed that the fixture be erected at night, which suggests an intentional avoidance of the times when council officials are doing their job, and might intervene if they so chose.
The result is a tatty blight that is disintegrating in a manner that poses a threat to public safety as it is falling in bits in front of motorists at the city’s busiest pedestrian junction.
It seems reasonable to ask what insurance does the artist have?
Either way, no matter the original artistic intent, the current eyesore should be removed without delay at cost to the responsible party.
The other point is that even if falling paper material has not thud far caused an accident, it nonetheless must be generating litter – and probably blocking drains. All of which is further inconvenience to the city and added reason as to why this should have been properly planned and executed in an open manner.
Does this mean that God is against gay marriage? So glad I’m a pastafarian
The other side are anti-pasta-farians.
NoNo..that’s the Pastafarians Peoples Party.
Shower of traitors.
Do antipastifarians wear small delicious italian starter courses on their heads? Anyone? Antipasti? No?There’s my cab.
Paul does that mean you eat loads of pasta in stead of smoking tons of grass ?
A sign from God “do not break my Planning Laws.”
So how long will it take before some monumental moron starts thumping his/her bible and claiming it was God’s action? My bet says within the next ten comments…
A drop of rain ? perhaps Mother Natures warning , think fast before the deluge.
Vote Nein.
Sorry to bust your amazing ability to see things on, like, this whole other level Ugly but the simple Truth is that the mural is made of paper and was designed to biodegrade. Sometimes things are just as they seem.
Or perhaps it was the paper the mural was made of doing exactly what it was supposed to do, biodegrade to protect the environment.
Furthermore, Ugly, this is Ireland. It rains here. If we were in Saudi Arabia, you might have had a point. If anything, I’m amazed this hasn’t happened sooner when ‘a drop of rain’ was all it took. Perhaps Mother Nature’s message is contrary to what you’re trying to claim?
Mother Nature wept at Ugly’s utter homophobia and cowardice, hiding behind a picture of McCarthy, spouting homophobia and xenophobia, just goes against Mother Nature’s nature.
So many questions to answer , last dirt first as consequence of my individualism , Larissa my love I’ve been everywhere, man.
I’ve been everywhere, man.
Crossed the desert’s bare, man.
I’ve breathed the mountain air, man.
Of travel I’ve had my share, man.
I’ve been everywhere.
I’ve been to:
Reno, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota,
Buffalo, Toronto, Winslow, Sarasota,
Wichita, Tulsa, Ottawa, Oklahoma,
Tampa, Panama, Mattawa, La Paloma,
Bangor, Baltimore, Salvador, Amarillo,
Tocapillo, Baranquilla, and Perdilla,
Met lots of gays too , who hate this charge in their name without consent.
Wow, Ugly. You really blow my mind.
Sometimes ugly truths must inspire.
Ugly? Yes. Truth? Not so much…
Nix , never ear’d that line before, original , ain’t ya squire.
Well, stop hiding behind McCarthy and maybe we’ll believe that you’re actually telling the truth, or are you too ugly to show yourself?
@ Ugly. You have been everywhere??? Well thats throws the theory that travel broadness the mind out the window.
I’ve got lots of homophobic friends and they are voting yes ..
Oh Ireland, This is why we cannot have nice things!
And they say it isn’t against nature..
Kevin, what is the definition of nature?
@Pontius Indeed the nature argument is a useless argument by both sides. Which is precisely the point I was going to make had Kevin responded.
As soon as the nature argument comes up I like nip it in the bud straight away because it does no good for either side. Homosexuality which occurs in nature cannot be against nature by the very definition of the word. However, as you said, there are some horrendous things which also occur naturally. So the argument does no good other than to introduce a new topic to bicker over thus halting any progress on debate of the actual topic in question.
YesMay22
http://higherperspectives.com/parenting-moments/
Nothing defines nature, but this is a good Vid.
Thanks be to God.
What has your god to do with it?
Nature telling us something ???
Act of God.
Which god?
The homophobic God.
Zlatan.
The sky fairy one ? Sorry was it a trick question ?
Such a shame
Maybe a man and woman embrace to replace it in the interest of fairness and equality.
There are loads of images of men and women embracing everywhere. So in the interest of fairness and equality we should probably put up a few thousand of these.
Also what about animal rights and equality. I want to see a kangaroo hugging a wombat. NOW.
Animals have rights. They have the right to be DELICOUS!@
A guy embracing a really hot looking chic with a dick so lots of people look and get a lil semi before they realise …. have them feeling dirty all day
For all those speaking for nature, tell us what message was nature trying to convey when it wiped out 3000 + in Nepal?
I thought they were just tearing into each other…………
This is just beginning. It was foretold by an apparition in a field in Mayo. Soon there will be a biblical flood and the Liffey shall run red with blood.
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I like that you went to the trouble of breaking it into paragraphs.
It’s such a shame that the mural was damaged. I just hope that some No Side campaigners won’t say that this was a “sign from God” and use it to further their agenda
Devo
We are not Devo
That art is imitating life!
In a roundabout kinda way, it’s all about the tears.
Vote no in endas referendums and force a GE,put an end to this nonsense and this government. Iw failure, siteserv revelations, and a no vote all together will bury enda and Joan.it will be impossible for them to remain in government.
@ mdmak33 Do you really believe that the Irish people are that stupid that would vote no to peoples happiness just to get back at the government. And are you that stupid that you think it would work.
The one thing all the parties have in common is advocating a ‘yes’ result. Moot strategy.
Well, James JJ
About 0.0025% of the population in civil partnerships, why do you not want to make most of us happy Joseph, your a bit of a killjoy, eh.
Your like the new budget giveaway, the government buying a few votes here and there, we want to be happy and you have no right to deny us that, your asking people to vote NO James.
@ Gerard. When the water charges didn’t bring down the government I doubt the a referendum that will only effect a small minority of the population stand much of a chance.
What makes you think that the government will buy votes from the lgbt community when all the main political parties are in favor of a yes vote.
Face Palm
JJs
Brick by brick Joseph, if we just say no to everything the government supports it will fail, each little brick denied them is a brick less to build their police state.
Its their problem that they are all united against the majority of the people, the people are now uniting against them.
Where can you buy this face palm, the same shop that sells Godwins law ?
LOL.
Is the weather voting no
It’d be great to see this out back up in a (more) permanent manner. When is the last time a piece of public art has sparked such debate? Like all good art it marks a moment in time and leaves an indelible reminder. Future generations deserve it.
Bring it back in colour!!!
They are breaking up.
If t.his Referendum is passed phaedophiles will be able to adopt christen!
SAD!
Did it come off itself or did someone give it a hand…..as it were?
It was jerked off lol.
Nice!
God??? lol.
I am still undecided and can see good points from both sides. I understand that this debate is not very black and white and it could be debated forever. I am trying to understand what is the difference and main reason for gay people to be able to say they are married rather than have a civil partnership??? Can someone please tell me? That really is what this referendum is about although there are many implications which are been debated from both sides. Are we really getting hung up on an English word called “marriage” here which is defined in our constitution for man and woman. Can we let them have the term marriage used for their union and a different word used for when gay people form a loving union? I dont know but I am curious to hear your thoughts.
Can I also ask all of you who (especially those who are straight) are voting YES to think deeply within your heart and answer me this question honestly……If you had your own child and lets say for example, you knew you were going to die or had to go away for 10 years or so and you had to give your child to a family to raise it….who would you want to raise your child.
a. A loving male+female couple
a. A loving male+male couple
c. A loving female+female couple
have your say