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Politicians tell us why they're voting Yes or No

Do you support same-sex marriage?

WE ASKED EVERY TD and Senator how they intend to vote in Friday’s same-sex marriage referendum.

Of the 173 (of 225*) who responded, 163 intend to vote Yessix plan on voting No, and one is unsure. Three declined to share their intentions. The rest did not respond.

Here some of them explain to TheJournal.ie why they’re voting Yes or No.

(*226 minus Phil Hogan’s old seat in Carlow/Kilkenny)

Yes

Gay Marriage Equality Referendums Simon Coveney Leah Farrell / Photocall Ireland Leah Farrell / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Agriculture and Defence Minister Simon Coveney is Fine Gael’s director of elections for the same-sex marriage referendum.

As such, he’s been one of the most prominent Yes campaigners.

Here’s why he supports same-sex marriage:

The Referendum on 22 May is about giving everybody the opportunity to marry the person they love. These people are our friends, neighbours, relatives and colleagues.

Marriage enshrines loving commitment between two people and that is something that should encourage rather than prevent.

Marriage gives us stability, a standing in society, and helps us deal with whatever life throws at us. And society is stronger when we commit to each other. I’m voting Yes so that no one will be denied the right to marry the person they love on the basis of their sexuality.

Meanwhile, Taoiseach Enda Kenny has spoken publicly about why he has changed his views on same-sex marriage:

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Kenny said he thinks the vote will be a lot closer than many people expect.

Tánaiste Joan Burton told a recent Yes campaign meeting that society will be “stronger” if the referendum is passed:

For my part, I do think society will be stronger when same-sex couples are given equal rights to participate in an institution that rewards mutual commitment.

Some may still harbour doubts. I would simply ask them to listen to the voices of parents, grandparents, brother and sisters of gay or lesbian citizens. It is those voices that have been the most electrifying and energising feature of the debate over the past few weeks.

Here’s what some opposition politicians think…

Sinn Fein Gay Marriage Equality Referendums Mary Lou McDonald Sam Boal / Photocall Ireland Sam Boal / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Sinn Féin deputy leader Mary Lou McDonald:

Marriage equality is a case of affording absolutely our acceptance and our respect and our full valuing of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. It’s so important to create and have a climate in which people who are gay or lesbian feel entirely valued and respected.

Issues around children, adoption and surrogacy are complex but separate issues.

Independent Senator Katherine Zappone said she has been campaigning with her spouse Ann Louise for the past 14 years for same-sex couples to have “constitutional equality and all the happiness and well-being that flows from this”.

Socialist party TD Joe Higgins:

I’ve campaigned for LGBTQ rights for decades and have supported all demands such as an end to criminalisation and for marriage equality. After the referendum there won’t be an end to the need for activism from LGBTQ people and their allies. Homophobic and transphobic bullying remains a major issue, especially in our schools.

In my constituency I and other members of the the Anti-Austerity Alliance are campaigning strongly for a Yes vote and we are receiving a very positive response to our points.

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Senator Averil Power (Fianna Fáil’s deputy director of elections for the party’s campaign):

I have delivered 50,000 leaflets calling for a Yes vote in Dublin Bay North and am knocking on doors five times a week canvassing for a Yes vote. I passionately believe lesbian and gay people should be entitled to equal rights, including the right to marry.

I also believe a Yes vote will be good for Ireland as a whole, signifying our determination to leave behind the discrimination of the past and be a progressive and inclusive society.

No

In a recent opinion piece for TheJournal.ie, independent TD Mattie McGrath said the rights of gay people can be protected without extending marriage to them.

Dail debates Moriarty Reports Mattie McGrath Leon Farrell / Photocall Ireland Leon Farrell / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

He said the views have nothing to do with “a thinly-veiled homophobia”, as some people may claim.

Those who advocate a Yes Vote unfairly threaten the electorate with the appearance of becoming democratic pariahs if they reject the amendment, despite the fact that same-sex marriage in any form has only been adopted by 17 of the 193 member states of the United Nations and none of those adoptions have been on the basis of a constitutional referendum.

Why has this fact been so conspicuous by its absence from the Yes Campaign?

There is a deliberate and misleading impression being created that those who advocate a No vote are somehow on the wrong side of history and that only access to civil marriage will do as a defining marker of equality for citizens before the law.

Senator Rónán Mullen told us he think a majority of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil TD, half of Sinn Féin TDs and “at least 40% of Labour TDs” will vote No, noting: “Nobody will ever know”.

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He said many people aren’t sharing their views publicly, claiming some of those canvassing for a Yes vote secrelty don’t back the proposal.

There are people who know from their own lives that their father and their mother in their life made a difference to them, and not just because it was two as opposed to one.

Independent Senator Jim Walsh echoed this statement, telling us he’s actively campaigning for a No vote “because of my serious concerns for the future wellbeing of children and society generally”.

- with reporting from Hugh O’Connell

Originally published: 21.30, 16 May 

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    Mute john
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:01 PM

    I have a chipper beside me that I treat myself to every couple of months. Lovely burger and chips for under a tenner. I was in town recently and decided to get a McDonald’s for the first time in years. What a load of muck. Seriously, the chips are awful and burgers are muck. Go to your local chipper and ignore McDonald’s. It just shows that marketing really affects people decisions (mine included) because it’s not the food that brings people there.

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:12 PM

    I prefer McDonald’s to local chipper.

    McFlurry…….mmmmmmmm.

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    Mute Seth Cheffetz
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:13 PM

    Or better yet treat yourself to a burger from Bunsen, Wow Burger, or Frit Haus!

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Jul 27th 2016, 12:09 AM

    The new O’Sanders burger from KFC looks amazing.

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    Mute Philip Walshe
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    Jul 26th 2016, 6:50 PM

    This report concerns the US where a lot of the ingredients used are not permitted to be used in Europe. I would be interested to see the same report in relation to Europe.

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    Mute andrew
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:32 PM

    Stick with the dogfood. Healthier.

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    Mute Paul Cunningham
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:44 PM

    No doubt TTIP will clear any roadblocks for US ingredients here.

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    Mute Jimmy Murphy
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    Jul 26th 2016, 6:45 PM

    Processed junk food? IT CAN’T BE!!!!!

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    Mute Paddy Byrne
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:17 PM

    Your kids will be obese if you bring them a few times a week. Cook something healthy for them instead would be the better option.

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    Mute Proinsias O Foghlù
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:44 PM

    So people are copping on to the fact that regularly eating crap food is bad for you!

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    Mute Sean Sean
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:10 PM

    I don’t think they are. Every street corner in America has a fast food restaurant. It’s amazing! You could be in a tiny town in the back arse of nowhere and there will be 5 or 6 fast food places. It’s like Ireland and its pubs.

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    Mute Chlorines72
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:22 PM

    McSh*t.

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    Mute james mc donagh
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:29 PM

    A few times a week???? Your kids will be huge

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    Mute Conor O'Neill
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    Jul 26th 2016, 6:43 PM

    Their food kills people!

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    Mute Robert O'Rourke
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:05 PM

    100% of people who eat McDonald’s will die. Fact.

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    Mute Colin Moran
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:17 PM

    So does penicillin Conor.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:48 PM

    Maybe if they treated the communities that they operate in with respect those communities would support them. I have not been inside one of their stores in 4 years because of their contempt for my community.

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    Mute Foxy
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:09 PM

    Mc Donald’s is a Restaurant

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    Mute Paddy Ryan
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:42 PM

    Just a though… Could there be a correlation between McDonalds introducing a “healthy” menu and Americans not eating there in the numbers they used to ?

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    Mute Paddy Ryan
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:43 PM

    Thought not tough

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    Mute Paddy Ryan
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:43 PM

    Though even…

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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:14 PM

    You realise Ireland is not fatty behind on the obesity scale and catching up quick right?

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    Mute Seth Cheffetz
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:14 PM

    *far behind

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    Mute Philip Walshe
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:48 PM

    Lol Seth. Nice Freudian slip!

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    Jul 26th 2016, 6:52 PM

    I can’t fault them at all, bring the kids there for a treat a few times a week, main course and dessert for under a tenner, not many restaurants can match that. I also think that the fact that they only use beef and a pinch of salt reassuring.

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    Mute Andy K
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:27 PM

    “Beef”

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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:33 PM

    Big difference between made ‘with’ and made ‘from’ 100% Irish beef……

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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:36 PM

    Beef???? It’s only called beef because it comes from a cow but dont let the word beef fool you into thinking that it is a fine cut of loin of fillet. As with most burgers it is pure crap that goes into them, the same goes for chicken burgers and nuggets. Look, a treat once in a while is fine but a few times a week can’t be good

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    Mute Proinsias O Foghlù
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:48 PM

    Surely a pisss take!

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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:52 PM

    Well maybe not a few times a week but at least twice we live across from one. It’s drive thru only after 11 so some times I would bring them for a milkshake if they are struggling to sleep. So maybe twice for dinner and the odd time to help them sleep

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    Mute Suzie Sunshine
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:15 PM

    Bring them for a milkshake after 11 pm if they can’t sleep ? .. I’m sure ya do …

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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:17 PM

    Only if they are awake.

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    Mute Ger Goings
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:19 PM

    No ones biting, poor you.

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    Mute Ger Goings
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:20 PM

    Spoke too soon! Suzie Dont reply to it.

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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:29 PM

    Lol Ger

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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:33 PM

    Lol sorry Ger. .

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    Mute Ger Goings
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:35 PM

    Tee hee hee..

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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:39 PM

    Haha brillo pads. Let’s all go to Maccas!

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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:50 PM

    @Free. Well it would be a bit weird if you brought them if they were asleep lol

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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:09 PM

    I treated myself to a Big Mac meal and also a chicken sandwich one afternoon recently, thinking it would fill me up nicely and that it would save me cooking something later that evening.
    How wrong I was. One big belch 10 minutes later and I was hungry again!

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    Mute Paul Cunningham
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:47 PM

    The problem with McDonalds is that if you have a fiver, you won’t get filled up, whereas with a chipper you can get something off the menu to keep you satisfied for hours. Even a bag of chips does more than a full priced McDonalds meal.

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    Mute KalEll
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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:46 PM

    Yet another sign that the end of the world is nigh

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    Mute Dara Wyer
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    Jul 27th 2016, 7:50 AM

    That escalated quickly!

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    Mute Jester VonDoom
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:24 PM

    offer free guns?

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    Jul 26th 2016, 7:40 PM

    All day breakfast would be great to have here though…

    The sausage egg biscuit & the mcgriddle are fantastic.

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    Mute Ger Goings
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:52 PM

    I prefer the Krusty burger with cheese. Much tastier.

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    Mute funkytown
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    Jul 26th 2016, 8:59 PM

    I prefer crusty imitation brand gruel, nine out of ten orphans can’t tell the difference!

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    Mute Robyn Morton
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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:33 PM

    Ah Funky, is that crusty imitation brand gruel just an imitation of Krusty Brand Imitation Gruel? Christ the penny pinching is getting a bit extreme these days.

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    Jul 26th 2016, 9:58 PM

    wow..how isnt it amazing how a mc donalds article brings out all the trolls. must be something in the food.

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    Mute Ger Goings
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:03 PM

    You must love McDonald’s so Jen. Welcome on board.

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    Jul 27th 2016, 8:46 AM

    Do they have Krusty-Partially-Gelatinated-Non-Dairy-Gum-Based-Beverages?

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    Mute Ana Rafaela
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    Jul 27th 2016, 3:26 AM

    Eh watch the videos on you tube of the cruelty Mac Donald’s meat comes from and what the animals go through being slaughtered!! I have become a vegan and maybe people should be aware of the hell animals are put through in order for burgers to be made and not to be looked upon just as junk food it’s far more than that maybe looking through glass of slaughter houses will get people to realise this is the cruel world we live in . Allot of this is covered up

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    Jul 27th 2016, 6:51 AM

    Welcome to the top of the food chain. Enjoy the tofu

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    Jul 27th 2016, 11:30 AM

    A huge amount of mcdonalds european burger are made in ireland. Its cull cow beef , ie. The cows you see in fields through out ireland…not kept in cages … admittedly by the lptime they’re made into burgers it isnt the best beef… but what do you expect..

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    Mute ocJBI3Df
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    Jul 27th 2016, 6:44 AM

    Mc Donald’s doesn’t kill people, people kill people

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    Mute Ken Pepper
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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:10 PM

    who eats this muck?

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    Jul 27th 2016, 6:53 AM

    It’s one of the most profitable businesses in the world. Changing the price of a big mac affects the US economy. So to answer your question a few people do

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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:17 PM

    Shite service, that’s why. Throw in the food and, well…

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    Jul 26th 2016, 10:18 PM

    And I don’t mean the Irish restaurants, I mean the US ones that I’ve visited. Seems to be a “how-low-can-we-go?” challenge at times

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