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Patrick Neary is 'deeply sorry' but the banks 'should have known what they were doing'

One TD was paraphrasing Oscar Wilde at the banking inquiry today.

Updated 3.55pm 

THE MAN CHARGED with keeping tabs on the banking sector before its spectacular collapse said the authority became more like a “service provider” than a “detached, strong regulator”.

Former Financial Regulator Patrick Neary today said he was “deeply sorry” for the agency’s failure to deal with the “challenges” the banking crisis posed.

But he also pointed the finger at other agencies for wrongly predicting the economy was in for a soft landing.

Neary told the Oireachtas banking inquiry “the authority’s decisions reflected the economic and growth forecasts from the Central Bank which it was obliged to follow”.

These predicted a soft landing and if that prediction had been fulfilled, there would not have been a banking crisis.”

He said growth in borrowing stemmed from the appetite for property and that was fuelled by a number of factors including the “feel-good-element” of increasing property values.

Neary1 Neary's swearing-in at the banking inquiry today Oireachtas.ie Oireachtas.ie

‘Authoritative sources’

Neary added a “further and extremely important factor” in driving the boom was the consistent stream of “very positive economic commentary” coming out of the ESRI, Central Bank and Finance Department.

In formulating its strategy, the authority always took full account of the output of these authoritative sources, which predicted that the Irish economy would continue to show growth above the EU average and that the property market would experience a soft landing.”

Neary was appointed chief executive of the Financial Regulator in 2006 after a long career in the Central Bank. He retired in early 2009 with a one-off payout of €630,000 on top of his annual pension of €143,000 a year, later reduced to €114,000. Asked about his departure, Neary said nobody ever asked him to resign.

When asked if the regulator’s “light touch” approach to overseeing banks helped trigger the crisis, Neary said the lenders “should have known what they were doing”.

They should have been able to grant loans and make sure they were properly secured and being repaid. That’s the very least that you would expect them to do.”

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‘When push came to shove’

However Neary later admitted the regulator could have introduced limits during the property boom that would have put a cap on banks’ reckless lending, which at its peak reached €440 billion – nearly three times the size of the total Irish economy.

“Very few people would dispute that a far more intrusive form of regulation was required,” he said.

I think that when push came to shove the regulator, if it had set that limit … if it had really, really set a hard, well-defined limit I think we would have been able to bring some control to the situation.”

“I accept that the system of regulation allowed those (reckless) elements to develop.”

Some banks were running at nearly twice the limits set under one of the regulator’s core moves, putting in place guidelines designed to stop lending becoming too concentrated in certain markets, the inquiry heard.

But in response to those breaches, the authority only sent letters to the banks – which the lenders effectively ignored.

“It was a guideline that had we found a way to make it stick would have been useful,” Neary said.

And Oscar Wilde…

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Fine Gael TD Kieran O’Donnell, paraphrasing Oscar Wilde, said:

This was left to run unchecked for six years. One year may be unfortunate, two years would be careless, but three and four and five and six years…”

But Neary said the authority’s work was done based on an EU-wide policy that everyone now knew “just wasn’t a very good directive”.

“It was a period where I bought into a system of regulation that didn’t work, the system failed and I regret that,” he said.

O'Donnell Fine Gael TD Kieran O'Donnell Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

The guarantee

Neary also told the inquiry that, when it came to the night of the banking guarantee, he was called in to government buildings to provide an update on banks’ financial position.

We advised the meeting that on the basis of the information available to the authority, all banks were in compliance with their required capital ratios, were in a position to meet their obligations on a going concern basis, but liquidity was becoming a critical issue for them, especially Anglo,” he said.

Neary said he was later called back into the meetings to look at the options of either nationalising Anglo and guaranteeing the remaining banks, or extending a blanket guarantee to all lenders.

Anglo Former Anglo Irish Bank chairman David Drumm Graham Hughes / Photocall Ireland Graham Hughes / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

He said he and the authority’s chairman were “inclined to favour” any guarantee being extended to “all banks concerned in the same manner”.

Neary later told the inquiry that he did not have any evidence at the time to suggest that any of the six main banks were insolvent.

Prime Time

Neary was also asked about his now-infamous appearance on Prime Time on 2 October 2008, just days after the guarantee announcement.

During the course of the interview he said Irish banks were among the best capitalised in Europe.

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He said today that he made those remarks with the information available to him at the time but that “subsequently matters emerged”.

“The facts I had at my disposal was that the banks were in full compliance with their capital requirements,” he said.

- additional reporting from Hugh O’Connell 

First published 10.29am

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    Jun 28th 2022, 9:45 PM

    Schools are more and more being asked to do things which are actually the parent’s job.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 10:33 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: a lot of what you learn in secondary school is not actually pertinent to real life. This is, so what is the harm in it being thought at home and in school?

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    Jun 28th 2022, 10:59 PM

    @A$AP Ragnick: Looks like we’ll have a lot of hygienic, nice and socially conscious people who are academically inept.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:04 PM

    @Elrond Rivendell: your right, because it’s impossible to introduce one new module, and the only way to do so would be to eliminate every other subject from the school curriculum so it can be thought 8 hours a day. Silly me.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:48 PM

    @A$AP Ragnick: Crikey! Well if your writing is anything to go by, wellbeing and hygiene we’re definitely taught over grammar in your place. To address your substantive point, the original point was that schools are teaching a lot of things that should be taught at home. Your response was along the lines of yeah grand because a lot of things on the curriculum are useless. Wellbeing already gets 100 hours more than English, Irish or Maths and 200 hours more than Science, History, Business, Geography, Languages or any practical subjects at Junior Cycle. I think the evidence that we are developing a lot of people who are well versed in hygiene, mental health, social consciousness and such over academically able students is evidenced by the emphasis in the Junior Cycle programme.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:50 PM

    @Elrond Rivendell: **were** being taught. Damn auto-correct. Laughing at the irony myself here!

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    Jun 28th 2022, 7:33 PM

    Well done Helen McEntee, this initiative long overdue

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    Jun 28th 2022, 7:37 PM

    Thank you Helen McEntee.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 7:34 PM

    I’m heartened to hear this.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:12 PM

    Domestic abuse inflicted by woman on men is a hidden tragedy in this country.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 8:22 PM

    Helen McEntee would make a fantastic Taoiseach.

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    Mute Graham Manning
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    Jun 28th 2022, 9:48 PM

    @Darren: you’d make a much better comedian

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:10 PM

    @Graham Manning: and you what would you make ?

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    Jun 29th 2022, 9:38 AM

    @Margaret Mcgarry: Listen listen, Graham is one of these “all politicians are dopes and on the take” people. The barstool expert who spouts opinions online that in the days before the internet were only heard at the bar or on the street corner but because he publishes it online, it now becomes fact. Don’t let him bother you.

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    Jun 29th 2022, 3:31 PM

    @Margaret Mcgarry: An English teacher. Want a grind???

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    Mute Graham Manning
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    Jun 29th 2022, 3:32 PM

    @Elrond Rivendell: says the person convinced introducing this will make students academically inept???

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    Jun 28th 2022, 7:52 PM

    Excellent news!

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    Jun 28th 2022, 8:09 PM

    I like this Helen McEntee.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:00 PM

    About time, I feel so ashamed and guilty about being a man, especially a straight, white man.
    We need to make sure none of our boys grow up with self respect and confidence.
    Critical race theory is hopefully next.
    Our schools need third wave feminism urgently before even more of our children get brainwashed by the patriarchy to believe that men and fathers deserve the same rights and respect as women and mothers.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:16 PM

    @Dan Broderick: It was inevitable that someone would have a spectacularly bad take on this. Congrats on hitting every buzz word on the “woke madness” bingo card while somehow suggesting that teaching people about consent negatively impacts their confidence. Thankfully, it’s a dying breed that yearns for the good old days when men were men, wha?

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:23 PM

    @OnlyHereForTheComments: Misogyny was mentiined twice in the closing paragraph. This shows the true meaning behind the story, this isn’t about equality, this is more ignorant man hating nonsense.
    Real men are a dying breed and the anti male agenda isn’t even hidden anymore…..nothing more pathetic, dangerous and repulsive to women as a male feminist

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:34 PM

    @Dan Broderick: “real men are a dying breed” Lol. Upset that the story mentioned misogyny? The fragility is strong with you.

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    Jun 28th 2022, 11:35 PM

    Speaking at the launch, the Taoiseach said that misogyny has “no place” in Irish society.

    I agree but what about Misandry or is that still acceptable in society?? It does exist also, in fact one could argue that the taoiseachs statement could be construed as such? He should have said theres no place for misanthropy – at least thats non-biased.

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    Jun 29th 2022, 10:20 AM

    Teaching both sexes to respect each other covers most scenarios. Parents who allow their young 10-12 year old kids and teenagers to roam around committing anti social behaviour need to cop on . When they get away with it that young it emboldens them do worse as they get older. Why should the teachers be landed with the parents responsibility’s.

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