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Ireland's most popular baby names: Miley and Angel, your time has come*

*But you’re not in the top 100 just yet.

JACK AND EMILY remain the most popular babies’ names registered in Ireland in 2014, new figures released by the CSO show.

Jack has been the number one choice for boys since 2007, and Emily has been the most popular girl’s name since 2011.

The top five boys’ names (Jack, James, Daniel, Conor and Sean) have been the top five since 2007 – with the order changing slightly from 2012, when Conor – shockingly – finished in fourth place, ahead of Sean.

Four of the top five boys’ names (Jack, Sean, Conor and James) have been in the top five since 1998.

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This is the fourth consecutive year that Emily has been the most popular name chosen for girls. Sophie, Emma, Grace and Ava were the next most frequently chosen names in 2014.

There were four first-time entries to the top 100 for boys: Henry, Hugo, Ollie and Luca.

The highest new entry – at number 87 – was Ollie, rising from 113th place in 2013. It was also the name rising most in popularity, up 26 places from 2013.

There were two first-time entrants to the top 100 for girls: Annie and Isla. The highest new entry at 75th place was Annie, rising from 106th place in 2013. The name rising in popularity most was Evie – up 43 places from 110th place in 2013.

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As in previous years, girls are given a wider variety of names than boys with 4,586 girls’ names registered compared to 3,486 boys’ names – despite a greater number of male births.

In most areas of the country one of the top five boys’ names took the number one spot.

Only seven areas favoured names outside of the top five for boys.

In Cavan, Adam was the most popular boys’ name in 2014. Michael was the most popular boy’s name registered in 2014 in Longford and the name also shared the top spot with Daniel in Limerick County. Patrick and Liam, along with Daniel and James, were the most popular in Galway city.

Oisin and James were most favoured in Donegal, while Thomas shared the top position with Jack in South Tipperary. Noah, Sean and Jack proved to be the most popular name for baby boys registered in Carlow.

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For girls, there was a wider range of names outside the top five that were county and city favourites. These included Amelia, Anna, Aoife, Caoimhe, Ella, Katie, Lily, Lucy, Mia and Sophia.

Some of the less common girls’ names registered in 2014 and not included in the top 100 names were Skylar, Angel, Meadow, Miley, Destiny, Raven and Halle.

Some of the less popular boys’ names registered in 2014 were Troy, Avery, Deacon, Braxton, Dexter, Cooper and Ariel.

Parents from other countries

Where both parents were stated as being Irish nationals, Jack was the top ranked name for boys. Charlie, Daniel, Finn, Jack, Leo, Noah and Thomas were the most popular choice with parents of UK nationality, while Liam was the most popular boy’s name chosen by parents from the EU15* excluding Ireland and the UK.

David and Jakub were the boys’ names chosen most often by parents from all EU member states excluding EU15 countries. Parents from nations outside the EU made Muhammed the highest ranked name of baby boys registered in Ireland in 2014.

Emily was the most popular name where parents were Irish or English. Emma ranked first with parents of the EU15 (excluding Ireland and the UK) and Julia took the top spot with parents of the all EU member states excluding EU15 countries. Sarah was most popular with parents from outside the EU.

For the first time, the CEO data includes the top ten most popular surnames of babies’ registered in 2014:

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There were 67,462 live births registered in 2014. Of these, there were 22,090 unique surnames, including some double barrelled surnames e.g. O’Brien-Murphy.

The top 10 most popular surnames account for over 7.4% (or 5,000) of overall births. Murphy accounts for over 1.1%, while Kelly accounts for just over 0.9% (633 births).

50 years ago

An analysis found that John and Mary were the most popular baby names in 1964.

There were 3,696 boys registered under John that year. The name ranked number 25 in popularity in 2014 (293 babies).

The top five boys’ names in 1964 were: John, Patrick, Michael, Paul and James. Of these, only James was in the top five last year.

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For girls, Mary was the name of choice for 3,471 parents for their newborn daughters in 1964. It now ranks at number 77 (88 babies).

The top five girls’ names in 1964 were Mary, Catherine, Margaret, Ann and Anne. None of these names featured in the top five names registered for baby girls in 2014. Apart from Mary, none of the other four names featured in the top 100 names last year.

None of the top 10 most popular names for girls’ in 2014 appeared anywhere in the top 100 girls’ names in 1964.

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As in 2014, the data for 1964 shows that girls were given a wider variety of names than boys. However, the range of names for both boys and girls were not as varied 50 years earlier. There were 1,103 girls’ names registered in 1964 (versus 4,586 in 2014) and 614 boys’ names (compared to 3,486 in 2014).

*EU15: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:39 AM

    Oh the empire tis finished,
    No foreign lands to seize…..

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:45 AM

    @European Bob: the greedy eye of England are turning towards the seas

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:46 AM

    @European Bob: the greedy eyes of England, are turning towards the seas…

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:00 AM

    @European Bob: A border made by the Brits and a people planted by the Brits, both coming back to bite them in the Royal b0ll0x. Karma!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:44 AM

    @Paul Furey: Isn’t it just beautiful! Arlene might bite her own nose off to spite her face but Theresa won’t.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:27 AM

    @Paul Furey: and we get to sit back and watch lol

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @European Bob: it’s not about the union, it’s about the money NI extract from Engurland for quite frankly sod all added value. Unbelievable the penny doesn’t drop they are a complete useless territory of the realm and everyone knows it. Union and Royalty, what a joke. Only for the comfy class up there.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:01 PM

    @European Bob: I wouldn’t be counting the Brits out yet, if there’s one common theme in British history – it’s that they’re the constant beneficiaries of good luck. From storms wrecking Spanish Armadas to mysterious “stop orders” from Germans.

    This time it may be different though as it’s the first time the ruin came from within.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:40 AM

    Arlene the tyrant not getting her way in her beloved union.now she should realise what her “fellow” Brits think of her kind of people

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    Mute Dave Walsh
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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:43 AM

    @dick dastardly: Still laughing at “a bulldog chewing a wasp”from a comment on a previous post.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:23 AM

    @dick dastardly: Her kind of people . What’s that then . She is the first minister and her job is to act on behalf of the people of NI . If she didn’t fight to resist a border in the Irish Sea then she wouldn’t be doing her job .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:27 AM

    @Paul Smith: She is not first minister and does not represent the views of the majority of the people of the north on brexit.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:37 AM

    @Paul Smith: A hard land border will wreck lives. A border down the sea won’t be noticed by anybody.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:47 AM

    @Paul Smith: Her job IS to represent the people of the north. So why isn’t she doing that? Why is she hell bent on wrecking the economy? Think we all know the answer to that!!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:16 AM

    @Paul Smith: well she should act on behalf of ALL people of NI.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:20 AM

    @Paul Smith: no she’s not the first minister.

    Also the people voted to remain in Northern Ireland, she’s ignoring this.

    If she wants to be actually part of the UK then copy all the laws they have including marriage equality…… Instead she is selective.

    It seems its a union when it suits her

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:39 AM

    @Barry Somers: The UK doesn’t work like that . Scotland has its own parliament that make their own laws .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:39 AM

    @Barry Somers: The UK doesn’t work like that . Scotland has its own parliament that make a their own laws .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 5:29 PM

    @Paul Smith: All the people of NI, who voted to remain 56% to 44%.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:46 AM

    The rest of her precious union cares not a jot for the north. “Sure they’re all Paddies anyway, aren’t they?”

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:39 AM

    @European Bob: The loyalty continues to be rebuked, Bit like a stalker the DUP don’t know when things are over.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:53 AM

    @European Bob: Ulster says No.. but the man from Del Monte says Yes Yes Yes! Delighted for them.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:53 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: May better lock up her bunny rabbits before Arlene gets to boiling them.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:21 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: Stalker…. Love it….

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    Nov 9th 2018, 5:30 PM

    @Glenn O’hAilpín: And he’s an Orangeman!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:15 AM

    Good for the North as they voted to stay in the EU.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:20 AM

    @Seán Dillon: but they didn’t vote to stay in the EU at all costs even if it meant having new trade barriers imposed for 60% of NI external trade.

    Unless their ballot paper was substantially different to everyone else’s.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:25 AM

    @Damocles: Nobody got to vote on the actual outcome, just a general vibe that could have gone in one of numerous directions.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:41 AM

    @Tanks a Minion: so is it worth asking what they actually do want at this stage? Particularly in view of the fact that any externally imposed solution flies in the face of the unique circumstances of the GFA.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:26 AM

    @Damocles: Exact same argument applies to leaving the single market and customs union. Those in England who did vote to leave, did not vote to leave anything more than the “EU”, and during the campaign it was the Leave side saying “We should leave but stay in the single market”.

    Yet now, the “will of the people”‘s Leave vote apparently meant “Leave the EU and maintain as little connection with it as possible”

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:47 AM

    @Damocles: they were asked leave or stay they voted stay

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:46 PM

    @Damocles: Come on now Damocles, we’ve been told over and over that everyone who voted in the referendum knew precisely what they were voting for, regardless of what lies were printed on what busses.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:23 PM

    @Gerard: You can leave and stay in the single market. You are in or out. No halfway house situation.
    The Brexit mob thought they could bully their way t get what they want and failed miserably.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:38 AM

    When Arlene and her gang bullied May in Brussels, forcing her to publicly postpone a meeting while they scolded her like a bold child, they opened a can of worms.
    Diplomacy was never their strong point and it’ll bite them yet.
    Never Never Never is all fine and we’ll in Portadown but it doesn’t work in the real world.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:38 AM

    It’s the logical solution. Much easier to police than the land border. Allows North and South to trade freely as now, and make their own choices.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:42 AM

    Stinger for you Arlene!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:48 PM

    @Mark C: The Orange Card not working this time for Arlene,but she still has her broom.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:34 AM

    ‘interpreted by the DUP’…. well there’s a dangerous sentence

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:19 AM

    Maybe I’m wrong here but if Northern Ireland stays in the European customs market that means that if a company on mainland uk opens an office in Northern Ireland and trades their goods through that office technically they can still trade freely with the rest of the EU ? If this is the case wouldn’t this generate a lot of money for the northern economy?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:43 AM

    @Andy mc Laughlin: Yes. But the DUP would rather go down on a sinking ship than have a soft border, even though they say otherwise. Seems there’s an iceberg and Captain Foster has shouted full steam ahead.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:56 AM

    @Andy mc Laughlin: It could turn it into the Hong Kong of Europe and potentially generate TRILLIONS OF POUND…but the DUP would rather sacrifice all of that and the opportunity to pull generations of their people out of poverty so they can claim loyalty to a nation that realistically couldn’t give a furry rodents rectum about them…

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @John Ryan: yeah I was pretty sure that scenario would work but suggesting such in the journal lately without starting your comment with words like maybe I’m wrong here could lead to personal attacks from other commentators. So I was just being cautious

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:15 AM

    I would not open the champagne yet and start bellycoasing .Keep a closed mouth and wait paintently this could have a good result

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:12 AM

    The border should be no more than 3 miles of the coast of England.

    Hadrian’s old wall could mark its boundary with Scotland.

    London might consider the M25.

    Offa’s Dyke could be remarked out as a standby for Wales.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:36 AM

    I think Coveney and Leo have to be vigilant the next few weeks because this is when the tough negotiations are going to take place .My own opinion is that Leo doesn’t have the balls for it as for Coveney I don’t think he is much better.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:39 AM

    @Donal Carey: Im not a fan of theirs but they’e done well so far considering they’ve to deal with the DUP.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:40 AM

    @Mark McDermott: They’re getting a taste of what Nationalists and Republicans have put up with for years.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:37 AM

    @Mark McDermott: They are at the moment because the EU are fully backing them but the Eu are going to want to come to some agreement and they have to be ready for that and I am not to sure about them in a dog fight

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:42 AM

    @European Bob: Im aware of that fact, nothing I posted says I don’t.

    @Donal Carey: Any deal has to be passed by us, any changes to the GFA has to be voted for by the Irish people. The EU want a deal of course and it involves there being no border in Ireland which every EU leader has said.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @Donal Carey: who would be better negotiators? Like them or loath them, Leo and Coveney are respected in Europe unlike our main nationalist party SF who are every bit as anti Europe as DUP, while FF and Labour are just in disarray. The reality is they have run rings around DUP and Tories who are learning they have not many friend in the world, and don’t actually even like each other.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:11 PM

    @Brendan Walsh: While I agree with you that British are finding few friends in this fight to be free of the EU . Sinn Fein have always stuck to there task in trying to keep the EU in line and always on the side of the ordinary guy in the street .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:59 PM

    @Donal Carey: on what basis are you making that assertion . I think both have shown great fortitude and focus on this issue

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:14 AM

    A nation once again…..

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:07 AM

    @MickN: because of this, that could be further away.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:50 AM

    Ireland will be unite after Brexit”After receiving the letter, which was leaked to The Times, Mrs Foster told the newspaper that it appeared that Mrs May was “wedded to the idea of a border down the Irish Sea”.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:33 AM

    Fock the DUP

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:58 AM

    So Arlene who are the crocodiles now

    “If you feed a crocodile it will keep coming back for more”

    The DUP perhaps ?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:47 AM

    Northern Ireland’s biggest export market is the UK not the EU . She’s right it would be a economic disaster for NI to have a border in the Irish Sea .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:49 AM

    @Paul Smith: It would be an economic and social disaster to put a birder between the North and the Republic

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:56 AM

    @Paul Smith: but we’re talking about an insurance policy here that almost certainly won’t be needed. It’s not the implication proposal.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:01 AM

    @Tweety McTweeter: Actually it wouldn’t cause if you remove the border it will cost you an extra 10 billion a yr .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:23 AM

    @Paul Smith: Remove the border and you won’t need 10B per year. The island would become more cohesive.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:48 AM

    @Paul Smith: I thought NI was in the UK? How can you export to yourself?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:18 AM

    @Paul Smith: Factually incorrect rubbish “Paul”.
    Inward controls already exist. There would be some additional ones but it would be minimal.
    Arlene already has to show her passport getting on a plane to Britain anyway, so it makes absolutely no difference to the average person.
    This just goes to show what a joke this Tory-DUP coalition is.
    Truly laughable.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:08 AM

    @Paul Smith: As the north is an official part of the UK, it does not and cannot export to the UK. Your comment is as ridiculous as saying that the majority of Roscommon’s exports go to Leitrim.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:26 AM

    @Anne Marie Devlin: ok NI biggest export market is the rest of the UK .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:26 AM

    @Anne Marie Devlin: ok NI biggest export market is the rest of the UK . I

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:48 PM

    @Paul Smith: But then you’re not EXPORTING, are you? How on earth does Arlene think the north can play with the big boys in trying to attract investment when everything she says and does makes the north look less and less attractive for multinationals to invest in?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:40 PM

    @Paul Smith: But they will have the best of both worlds being part of the UK with the benefits of the EU. There will be NO border down the Irish sea nor between ROI and NI that is the whole point.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:13 PM

    @Paul Smith: That’s an internal market not an export market. How much of NI’s exports are then forwarded to the rest of the work.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:38 AM

    Any attempt to put border back in place would be fiercely resisted by the people of the border counties.
    It simply won’t be allowed to happen.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @Pius Flynn: Short memory there? I seem to recall an imposed, unwelcome border that was there nonetheless.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:15 PM

    @Pius Flynn: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the funniest ive read in a while …what have peoples opinions in the border counties to do with teresa or leo…back to 2 hr crossings

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:18 AM

    What do the people of NI want?

    Or is it down to Brussels and London to impose a decision?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:24 AM

    @Damocles: The people of NI made it abundantly clear what they wanted in the 2016 ref.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:26 AM

    @Ian Phillip Creaner: they voted for the UK to remain in the EU.

    However, given that the majority of the UK voted for the UK to leave the EU the UK is now leaving (more or less) the EU.

    Has anyone asked them want they want in these new circumstances?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:50 AM

    @Damocles: No. Unfortunately it’s up to a Secretary of state to make that move and call a unity referendum, a woman who doesn’t know the difference between a republican or a unionist!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:06 AM

    @European Bob: you need a secretary of state to start an independent wide ranging opinions and attitudes conversation for the NI?

    Seems unlikely.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:26 AM

    @Damocles: Only the secretary of state can call this as per the GFA.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:30 AM

    @European Bob: no. That’s in the case of a border poll. And a referendum in the UK requires a 6 month lead time. Which isn’t available.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:55 AM

    What is needed is a front stop to the back stop to the backstop and maybe a side step (er! Stop) to all the potential bus stops encountered to the multiple stops being proposed!!!!!!!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: that sounds a bit simplistic …. needs a few more stops and steps

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:26 PM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: A side step then a prodigy step should do the trick…

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:10 AM

    Given the unwillingness of the British to reinforce a border in N. Ireland, the fact that that puppet state voted to remain in the EU, is a drain on the UK economy, the security will be devolved to Stormont as soon as it is re established, & the cost of the entire will pass to the EU.
    The Royal emblems will continue to adorn flags & places of government, you know like on postage stamps, & in the former colonies.
    It will be drip, drip, drip,
    And the focus will switch to keeping Scotland aboard the residual UK.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:09 AM

    Why would we want to unite with the republic anyway . It’s finished . In 10 yrs times the EU flag will be hanging over the GPO and the only part of Ireland that will Irish is the six counties.

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    Mute Mark McDermott
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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:38 AM

    @Paul Smith: You haven’t a clue and stop hiding behind a fake account. Ireland is the fastest growing economy in Europe, continue to see new jobs being created here like Facebook leasing a new building allowing them to recruit another 5,000 staff.

    Even hardline Brexiteer Reece Moggs sees the writing on the wall, a financial company he has a stake in is opening an Irish branch and the company said on its declaration that Brexit will cause the UK to go into a recession. Even rating agencies are saying if there is no deal the UK will go into recession for a few years, all the while Ireland is pushing on nicely.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:42 AM

    @Mark McDermott: course Ireland prospers in the EU . That’s my whole point you sold your sovereignty for prosperity .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:56 AM

    @Paul Smith: jealous?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @Paul Smith: When you can have a vote to leave the EU that kinda indicates sovereignty was not lost. Geddit??

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:15 AM

    @Mona Murphy: Jealous not really . Ireland prospers because of countries like the UK . 17 countries in the EU contribute nothing but gets access to the single market . While countries like Ireland pay into the EU they always got more money back . The UK pays about 10 billion a yr to the EU and makes a loss of about 100 pound for every person in the UK . The EU is funded by the big four players . France , Germany , UK , Italy . It’s amazing people believe the UK should not be aloud to cherry pick as they say when countries like Ireland and the other seventeen countries that pay nothing have being cherry picking since they join at a cost to countries like to UK that has financially supported the EU since the 1970s .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:38 AM

    @Paul Smith: Ireland and 17 nations have paid nothing in? I know 100% that you’re lying but feel free to post any stats of facts to back up your statement.

    Also not a hope in hell would or should the UK be allowed to cherry pick what they want to be apart of and what they don’t.

    Want free access to market? Well you have to accept freedom of movement, its not difficult to figure it out but tbh your not the brightest.

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    Mute Danny Rafferty
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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:29 PM

    @Paul Smith: Poor old ‘Paul’ using words, like sovereignty, that doesn’t really understand.
    Brave Paul the anonymous.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 2:30 PM

    @Mark McDermott: ireland might have the fastest growing economy in europe but it is only ever a day away from a recession.i would be more concerned about trading into the uk than what happens to the north.if it gets hard to sell to the uk we will have a recession to end all recessions.and where is the first place most irish people will go? over to london of course.can you not see that we are being used by brussels to stop the uk leaving?god almighty it is right in front of you …and if anyone thinks that we will get a united ireland out of all the mess they are seriously deluding themselves…we CAN’T look after the 26 let alone another 6….try and blow the fog away and it might get a little clearer

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:42 PM

    @Paul Smith: Go away

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Paul Smith: We have not we are a sovereign nation but members of the EU, Thats the same BS they sold the Brexit idiot voters.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 6:03 PM

    @mark: !00% correct without the UK holding Ireland’s hand Ireland will be lost.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 6:33 PM

    @mark: Economic analysis by real economists in reliable publications say you are quite wrong there “mark”, but I will happily review proof of what you say if you have any?
    Of course I am expecting this “opinion ” to be as empty as your identity…ah well.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:22 PM

    @Danny Rafferty: yeah …i know what the great economists said before,during and after the last recession….all of them were wrong…it’s only now,10 years later with the benefit of hindsight they they sound anything remotely like they know what they are talking about

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    Nov 9th 2018, 8:26 AM

    Their was no ref on NI to stay in the EU . The question was should the UK stay in the EU .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:56 AM

    @Paul Smith: they voted to remain stop splitting hairs. The DUP are ignoring the will of the people in the north.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:30 PM

    @Paul Smith: Paul the EU flag already has flown from the GPO but below the Tricolour.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:36 AM

    - N.I voted to remain in the EU during the Brexit referendum
    - Unionists don’t want a border between NI and GB
    - Nationalists don’t want a border between NI and ROI

    Answer: Set them off on their own, a new independent country, free to join/leave the EU however they see fit

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @Adam Johnson: It would pretty much sink them, I don’t think they would want that. Easier option would be to join the republic since the EU already agreed to include Ireland as one of the vote went that way. Same as west/east Germany

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:59 PM

    @Stephen Devlin: Joining the republic would likely spark off a lot of troubles in the north again that no-one wants to return to. If they were their own independent country, they could join the EU as new member and life would go on as normal for them

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:23 PM

    @Adam Johnson: Ha, ha, they can’t even power share at the minute, so how are they going to run an independent country without descending into civil war?

    Out of curiously, what rationality would the people of NI be if it were independent?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:41 PM

    Can the DUP not see what an amazing economic windfall NI can take from the proposal? The Scots certainly can and have been looking for something similar!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 2:19 PM

    @Ro Molloy: Maybe they like the misery..

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:25 PM

    @Ro Molloy: Fortunately for us, the Scots don’t have A GFA.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:15 AM

    Oh May, this border’s a wonderful insite. It’ll soon be up and running by day and night. In the sea where the mournes sweep down into. It’s a soft border in the Irish sea too,

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:09 AM

    What seems to be getting missed here despite the wonderfully even handed coverage by the Journal is that the DUP are not the only people who are likely to have objections to May’s deal.

    Sure the DUP don’t seem to want to be forced into separation from GB and almost unification with RoI despite the warmth and welcome directed at them, particularly here.

    But the deal includes much that Conservatives in parliament will dislike while not offering much to sympathetic Labour members. And of course it doesn’t meet mainstream Labour’s 6 impossible tests.

    This deal won’t work for the DUP, but it won’t work for anyone else either.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:36 PM

    @Damocles: Proof, if needed, that the entire idea was completely stupid in the first place.
    Too much pride and not enough pragmatism on the Brexit side to make it work.
    They will blame us of course, but so what?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:30 AM

    NI has huge benefits to the UK . It also benefits the Irish republic to stay in the UK . The UK financially supports 1.8 million Irish people that the republic doesn’t have to pay for .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:41 AM

    @Paul Smith: First going on about the North didn’t vote to leave the UK, then that Ireland is finished and will have an EU flag hanging over the GPO (which already does alongside the Irish one). Now your saying the North being in the UK benefits Ireland, not if there is a border on the Island. That is of no benefit to us.

    Any other useless points you want to make?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:43 AM

    @Paul Smith: what benefits does NI have for Britain?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:39 AM

    @Brendan Greene: Are fleggers a benefit? Oops, ON benefits!!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:46 AM

    @Brendan Greene: well for a start it’s a much stronger NATO member . NATO would be weaker if a United Ireland existed .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:07 AM

    @Paul Smith: heard it all now, the six counties are holding NATO together.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:29 PM

    @Paul Smith: Is that you Sammy

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:43 PM

    @Paul Smith: We are not in the UK haven;t been for near a 100 years

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:56 AM

    This is the only sensible and workable way, Northern Ireland voted Remain in majority, and they will still be able to apply for Irish Passports after Brexit, I assume? None of the other UK countries can apply for Irish Passports, that would be daft.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:35 AM

    @WoodlandBard: Thousands from the UK have applied for Irish passports, anyone in the UK who have Irish parents or grand parents can apply for them. There was a few articles out saying the percent of applications have gone up over a hundred percent.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 10:52 AM

    A sea border benefits the republic . A land border benefits NI . The Irish republic became independent in 1923 . The UK only has to act in the interest of NI even if it means damaging the republic . When Ireland left in 1923 it cause a huge amount of damage to the UK . The UK doesn’t own the republic anything .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 11:32 AM

    @Paul Smith: Are you still talking grade a bulls*it?

    “When Ireland left in 1923 it cause a huge amount of damage to the UK.”

    Ah you mean when we got our independence? Ah how wrong of us to be so selfish to only consider our own freedom and not what damage will be caused to those who held a gun to our heads.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:41 PM

    @Mark McDermott: Ah Mark, just ignore him, PS is a contrarian troll, what ever the prevailing opinion, he always has to be the one different and somehow unable to understand the actual situation…always.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:30 PM

    @Paul Smith: poor old Paul, you ain’t got a clue about Ireland mate, go back to bed.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 12:36 PM

    While I agree with many people up North preferring to be governed from Westminister after all we have a lot of clowns here most of the time the game is up for the DUP on this one. You cannot force the EU to put a customs border on the border .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 7:43 PM

    The sweet thoughts of an inevitable united Ireland 32 counties and a nation once again.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 9:17 AM

    Can I still go to Holyhead without any issues :o

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @Mrs M: yes

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    Nov 9th 2018, 1:27 PM

    @Mrs M: And get duty free on the trip too!!!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:26 PM

    Create a border in the Irish sea and put Arlene and all the other DUP dimwits the other side of it so we don’t have to listen to them anymore

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:05 PM

    All those rejoicing at the prospect of a United Ireland would do well to consider that household incomes will drop by 15% across Ireland in the event that unity becomes a reality! This is mainly due to the massive subventions made by the UK to NI

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:09 PM

    @Vince Shields: nonsense. The EU and UK would be picking up a huge amount of that cost for years.
    The UK will have to continue to pay pensions to former NI workers and forced redundancies due to a strip down of the public sector workers etc.etc.etc

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:27 PM

    @Diarmaid O’Riordáin: in the Scottish Indy ref the UK was looking for 150 billion of the Scots to cover their share of the deficit . Do you think their just going to hand the ROI the keys to the front door and say there you go it’s all yours . The British people have invested trillions in to NI since 1923 .

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Diarmaid O’Riordáin: in the Scottish Indy ref the UK was looking for 150 billion of the Scots to cover their share of the deficit . Do you think their just going to hand the ROI the keys to the front door and say there you go it’s all yours . The British people have invested trillions in to NI since 1923 . I

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:35 PM

    @Paul Smith: I suggest you go to bed, you ain’t got a clue.
    We won’t be purchasing anything from anybody, NI is owned by the northern Irish people, I also suggest you read the GFA.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:30 PM

    15%, is that what you guys are going to lose in subvention Vince? whatever you do, dont mention the flip side – the benefits of one all-island economy. The EU and the UK would also have an obligation in assisting with the phasing out of that subvention loss, just as it helped with the Unification of Germany. Paul, you said Dublin has ceded sovereignty for prosperity, But isnt that the very thing that Unionists did back in the day, and cried blue murder over Home Rule – citing all the economic prosperity that would be lost by Ulster to Dublin Rule? Short memories!

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    Nov 9th 2018, 6:41 PM

    They’ve been DUPed

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:27 PM

    Seems the north is been sold out. Too expensive for the brits to keep as part of the UK. Guess who picks up the bill?

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    Nov 9th 2018, 4:40 PM

    @paul christopher cox: what bill? 1000′s of redundancies initially from stripping down the NI civil service, that bill legally would be owned by the UK as that is who their contracts are with.
    Unity would make the whole island wealthier, it’s already been shown on a few reports.

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    Nov 9th 2018, 3:22 PM

    considering the cost of keeping ulster afloat once the EU is out and its money as well … let me thinking that the union across the irish sea is maybe not at the front of westminster agenda !!!

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