Joe, do you want guns in your children’s schools here in Ireland, do you feel the need for them?

No Juan we don’t but we don’t have as serious problems with mental health or violence nor do our citizens possess more firearms than their are people. What is your suggestion? Don’t say ban all guns because it will NEVER happen in America.

The solutions is unfortunately one solution, which is ban all guns, it might never happen in America, you’re right, but anything else is just a compromised half baked solution which will solve one problem, but create a new one, in this case, either they do it right, which they won’t or keep the mass shootings.

Juan

A Japanese lad went and stabbed a load of kids in a school not too long ago. Should we also ban knives? It’s not the gun or the knife that kills, it is the person who decides to use them for evil purposes. They also tend to go where they know the public are disarmed. The solution is to arm the good guys for 1. a detterrant and 2. to protect children if someone is stupid enough to turn up at a school with bad intentions. Disarming everyone as you suggest, still leaves guns in the hands of criminals, like every other country.

If this is the case, then please tell me how many children were killed by guns in our schools in the last 10 years, in fact, how many children in general have been killed by guns in Ireland in the past 10 years, and hand guns and concealment are banned and there are still gangs operating in the country killing each other.

@Juan – Only the government is allowed have guns in Ireland. How many children were killed by guns in Nazi Germany, Communist China, Russia, & Cambodia, Argentina or Chile when the citizens had no means of defending themselves under those tyrannies – as it was outlawed for them to own guns?

There are also more guns than people in Switzerland – it doesn’t necessarily follow that this leads to mass shootings. There’s more to the situation than the number of guns, a cultural adjustment is both required and unlikely

” Better to have a gun & not need it, than to need a gun & not have it.”
- Roll on the red thumbs from the fools who prefer that only criminals & lunatics should be armed…

If some lunatic walked into a school where my kid was, i’d perfer if there was armed security there than not. Then at least there’s a chance of killing the psycho instead of many children.

and who decides who is and isn’t a lunatic??? you???

Shane O Leary – if some lunatic with a weapon started shooting your kids, would you like to ‘reason’ with the guy, – or would you prefer to have a gun & shoot him…??
- just wondering,
The ‘liberal’ mindset, ROFLMAO.

The gun isn’t gonna be removed from American society anytime soon so the only alternative is to introduce deterrents. The idea of mass shootings is to cause maximum carnage and they’re usually carried out by a disgruntled person who seeks revenge on a certain group such as fellow pupils, employees etc they usually shoot themselves then after enough damage has been done, the idea of having defence against this will destroy their motivation for it, not because they might be shot dead but because they won’t even begin to do the damage they intend to do. They only do it because it’s easy, take the easy out of it and it won’t happen as much.

And it in no way means that every pupil or treacher must be armed. All it requires is a couple of trained and armed individuals no different from the security personnel at any other establishment.

So more guns is the answer? It worked well in NI when the RUC and British Army were armed. Barely a shot fired by the various paramilitary groups. More guns is the only deterrent for this kind of thing.

Yeah it would have been great for the IRA wouldn’t it if the RUC and British army were unarmed. Not that this has anything to do with American gun control but it was the IRA that fired at the British army before the army fired at them, maybe the IRA should have remained unarmed instead of embarking on a futile murder campaign that seen 3500 people die for nothing and over 40000 injured. Idiots.

And no, more guns isn’t the answer but seeing as gun laws in the US aren’t going to change anytime soon it seems as if deterrents is the only alternative, having more guns is one form of deterrent. The ideal answer would be to have no guns but is this really going to happen in America?

Uvf and Ruc struck first. Do some revision

The UVF killed people in 1966 and we’re arrested by the RUC and jailed, same way the IRA were killing in the late 50′s and into the 60′s. The troubles didnt start to 1969 and the date can be pinpointed to August 12th of that year.

I don’t know who taught you history, I hope you didn’t pay them for the course.

How far do you want to go back!!!
Sure there are isolated incidents of sectarian violence going right back over 100s of years. The text I replied to implied the troubles “1968-1998″. But if you want to go right back to beginning forces loyal to the crown still started it.
I’m not condoning republican violence in any way, I’m against it but let’s be honest

I am being honest. You claimed the RUC and UVF started it, I simply stared that the UVF killings in 1966 were NOT the troubles and we’re quickly dealt with by the RUC, Gusty Spence (UVF Leader) was jailed and never got out until the mid 80′s so to say the UVF and RUC started it is kinda ludicrous. It started due to civil unrest in Derry then Belfast, the 12th Aug 1969, the unrest led to the deployment of the army.

And what was the civil unrest caused by??? Oppression of a minority at the time.

Specifically it took place that day because of an ABOD parade through Derry, it was attacked by nationalists which led to the battle of the bogside, this lead to unrest breaking out in Belfast then a call for troops to take the strain of the RUC.

The British army should never have been in Ireland in the first place, so any attack on British soldiers on Irish land is an act of self defence. You’re an idiot

The IRA should never have been in Northern Ireland so any attack on them was an act of self defence. You’re and idiot.

You’re and idiot

Hang on now, A/K, were the Loyalists not the first to arm themselves via the Larne gun-running of March 1914 in opposition to Home Rule?

Also, given the historic nature of the situation; planters, plantations, land grabbing, etc., it’s a bit rich to suggest that other people or organisations should not have been in Northern Ireland.

What has all this has to do with guns in American schools!!!!!!

Vin plenty suggest I shouldn’t be in Northern Ireland even though it’s my own country ffs.

People were arming themselves here long before 1912, there were armed groups here for centuries. Let’s just hope we’ve all seen the last of the armed groups now regardless what side they hail from.

Now there’s something we can certainly agree on.