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It's not easy to sell a flat once owned by a well-known serial killer

It’s very spacious, at least.

REUBEN JOHN WORKS for the Paul Simon estate agent, and his job is to sell a beautiful one-double bedroom, top-floor flat with its own private balcony in one of London’s most sought-after areas, Muswell Hill.

The flat is being offered at the bargain price of £300,000 (€410,000). London has one of the hottest property markets on the planet right now, and this seems like an incredible deal. It is easily worth hundreds of thousands more in any other location.

There is just one problem… but first, let’s take a look at the flat. Decent enough, right?

23dcranleighgardenspic1 Back room at 23D Cranley gardens. Paul Simon Paul Simon

So much space – something rare for a flat n London.

cranleigh gardens 23d n10 Paul Simon Paul Simon

However, this apartment isn’t for everyone.

It happens to be where serial killer Dennis Nilsen lured between nine and 12 young, homeless gay men and prostitutes, with the promise of food or alcohol, and murdered them.

mugshot-nilson A mugshot of Dennis Nilsen. UK Police UK Police

Nilsen moved into Flat 23D, Cranley Gardens, in North London in October 1981 and was arrested 16 months later when the drains became clogged with pieces of rotting corpses.

He used to chop up the body parts and flush them down the toilet. This is what it looked like when Nilsen lived there:

nilsenhouseold Taken by the police in 1983.

It has been over 30 years since those gruesome events, but it looks as if people still cannot see past Nilsen’s legacy to the incredible real-estate deal that is now on offer in lovely, leafy North London.

The estate agent Paul Simon is upfront about the flat’s history. Its website says:

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John, the Paul Simon agent for the property, tells Business Insider:

When we initially marketed the property, we were inundated with enquires and booked an average of eight viewings a week. We are now only achieving minimum interest, say one or two enquiries a week.

The Cranley Gardens flat was sold at auction for £250,000 (€340,000) in August 2013 to a developer that, according to a Business Insider source, wanted to renovate the property and make a bumper profit. It believed it was going for nearly £100,000 (€135,000) less than comparable properties in the area at the time.

The owner did a great job:

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It looks nothing like the time Nilsen lived there:

nilsenkitchen 1983 Police photo 1983 Police photo

However, the owner has struggled to offload the property since last year.

The flat may have a past but John, who said he would happily buy the flat himself if he had the budget and was looking to buy in the area, highlighted some of the positives of the flat.

If the property’s history wasn’t an issue for people this property would be going for around £375,000 (€510,000). It would also have a return of 5% for buy-to-let investors who could rent it out.

It even has a private balcony, which is rare in London flats at this price.

One prospective buyer remarked to John that the property had “killer views”:

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John said people are only offering “ridiculously low” offers at the moment but remains optimistic: “The right buyer will pop their head up, we hope.”

It can’t help that even some of his co-workers won’t even go into the property to show people around.

“One of my religious workers said he felt the presence of Jins (ghosts) and refused to do viewings,” said John to Business Insider.

That leads to a crucial question: is the property haunted?

Being a person of logic and science, I don’t think it is. Saying that, just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not there. So I’m sitting on the fence with that one, like any good estate agent.

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- Lianna Brinded

Would you be willing to live in a flat like this?


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    Mute Paul Mc
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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:46 PM

    2 years after I moved into my property a neighbour told me that the previous owner hung themselves from the attic. If I had of known this I probably wouldn’t have bought it but we are very happy here and love it. Glad I didn’t know. Would prefer to still not know but can’t unhear something ;)

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:36 PM

    It’s the price that would piss me off.. It’s a flat for feck sake!

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:52 PM

    It’s London…. Everything is insanely expensive in London, esp property

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    Jun 8th 2015, 12:36 AM

    Eh no. Those tiles in the kitchen are scandalous!

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    Jun 8th 2015, 8:39 AM

    Go on Kong put in an offer!!! I know you wanna lol

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:46 PM

    €410,000! And they call that a bargain?

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:42 PM

    Don’t think I could do it. Not because of ghosts or anything. I just would never be truly at ease knowing what happened. Also, I’m sure if you went around the apt with a UV light there would still traces of blood….

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    Jun 8th 2015, 6:58 AM

    Don’t believe everything you see on telly, blood doesn’t show up under a uv light.

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    Mute Lloyd Hetherington
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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:47 PM

    Whatever about Nielsen’s flat, I wouldn’t want to live in the other flats or even in the house next door.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:50 PM

    Exactly. Ghosts can go through walls ;)

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:01 PM

    I couldn’t do it. I know I couldn’t help but imagine all the awful things that happened there. I couldn’t ever be at ease!

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    Jun 7th 2015, 7:17 PM

    Yeah and the selling agent is hoping someone “will pop their head in” and buy it. Hope not out of the drainage system!

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    Mute Niall C
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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:37 PM

    I don’t see the problem.

    Would the new owner have to flat share with Nielsen or something?

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:40 PM

    Living somewhere that I know for sure nine people were horribly murdered? Eh. Pass. Not sure what the location (or the price) would have to be to tempt me.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:46 PM

    It’s a tiny flat and it looks , but apart from it’s sordid history, like a shoebox and the surrounding neighbourhood isn’t very encouraging either , so it looks very overpriced to me and not a good investment. The bubble is about to burst in London , I think.

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    Mute Padraig Piarais Mac AnTsaoir
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    Jun 7th 2015, 11:20 PM

    Wha? Muswell Hill is lush. Great area.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:48 PM

    Wouldn’t bother me. People have died all over the place. I don’t believe in ghosts either.

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:02 PM

    I’d be thinking about it all the time. Wondering are the pipes still the originals, could there still be remains somewhere….shudder

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:28 PM

    Imagine being on your own while having the worst fear, inducing hangover of your life in that place.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:48 PM

    Oh sweet Jesus. You just described my worst nightmare, one I didn’t know existed. I can never unsee what I just imagined.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 9:08 PM

    It’s not about ghosts or even death, it’s about the resonance of the horror and terror of the multiple murders that took place there. For sensitive people, the energy of events like that clings like the blood someone mentioned still being there.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 11:22 PM

    Those ‘energies’ you speak of are not in the flat Jo, they exist only in your head.

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    Jun 8th 2015, 1:25 AM

    10/10 Padraig.

    The shite I hear from some people:

    “the clouds just disappear when I imagine it”

    “Nice one. Can you make that one disappear?”

    “No, thats too big.”

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:11 PM

    “Young, homeless gay men and prostitutes”. Also know as “young men”.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 7:08 PM

    It’s called being descriptive, stop being politically correct.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 8:05 PM

    so julie..homeless and prostitutes are not worthy of a mention in your pc world?

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    Jun 7th 2015, 9:04 PM

    Julie……nobody said they weren’t young men. His MO was specific, it’s not politically incorrect to be specific about who his victims were!

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:22 PM

    Killer views. Haha

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:12 PM

    Think of all the space for activities…

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    Mute Linda Fegan
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    Jun 7th 2015, 7:59 PM

    I read a book about Nilson so my answer is most definitely no, maybe one murder you could get past but not 9

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:53 PM

    Yeah… ’cause floorboards have memories. Take the bargain

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:43 PM

    Too expensive for a flat, damn you London xD

    But yeah I’d totally live in it

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:53 PM

    What’s the problem? Once you’ve boiled up a nice meal you’ll be grand.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 5:48 PM

    As far as I remember Nielsen lived on Melrose ave, in Willesden Green, I lived on that avenue too, his address was 195 I think

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    Jun 7th 2015, 6:29 PM

    Yeah, just off Chichelle rd. My uncle lived near him too. Him n my dad used to show me the road…

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    Jun 7th 2015, 8:10 PM

    Did they get the drains unblocked? Too soon????

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    Jun 8th 2015, 1:07 AM

    Who’d really want to live there in all honesty, ok, it might make for some interesting yet gruesome dinner conversation if you could ever manage to get some friends round but I’d imagine that that novelty would soon wear thin. That kip should’ve really been raised to the ground years back as a mark of respect to Nilsson’s victims, mind you that’s not to say that If I had enough spare spondulix, I wouldn’t buy it just for the craic, then freak-out all the neighbours by constantly flushing the toilets & running up & down the stairs all night long.

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    Jun 7th 2015, 9:16 PM

    The owner will be making a killing

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    Jun 8th 2015, 12:05 AM

    I never understand why such things affect people. If anything, it makes an interesting story to tell people. It’s not like living in that flat will make you a killer, or will make someone kill you, or even will have any bearing on your own life.

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    Jun 8th 2015, 6:04 AM

    I think people don’t like the fact that 16 people were murdered and chopped up in it. That’s 16 chances of hearing foot steeps and doors creaking and other stuff to put the chills up you. Personally I don’t believe in ghosts, but most people do.

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    Jun 8th 2015, 4:04 AM

    I’d rather live in a shed or on the street then live there

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    Jun 8th 2015, 1:30 AM

    How many irish properties are sold with history murder and suicide.thats why we have foreign investors who only see percentages and money

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