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The 9 at 9 Nine things you should know this morning…

EVERY DAY, TheJournal.ie brings you nine things we really think you ought to know with your morning cup of coffee.

1. #ESRI The ESRI has recommended increasing spending cuts in the forthcoming budget to €4 billion, up from the proposed figure of €3.6 million. The economic think tank has lowered its growth forecast and said that problems in the US and British economies are having a negative impact on Ireland’s recovery.

2. #DAVID DRUMM Anglo Irish Bank has asked a judge in the US to deny former bank boss David Drumm a bankruptcy trial. Drumm filed for bankruptcy last year but Anglo says he lied under oath. The Irish Times reports this morning that Drumm concealed funds and property by moving them into his wife’s name while it’s reported in the Irish Independent that he set up a ‘sham’ business in the US. Drumm owes €10 million to Anglo Irish Bank.

3. #RENDITION A dispute between two aviation companies has revealed that Shannon airport was among the locations used for so-called ‘rendition flights’, transporting terror suspects around the world. According to invoices filed between 2002 and 2005 Shannon was among the airports used to bring the suspects and US officials to CIA ‘black site’ prisons. Last year Wikileaks cables revealed that the then Minister for Foreign Affairs Dermot Ahern was ‘quite convinced’ that the flights were landing at Shannon.

4. #CANCER Cancer cases in Ireland have risen by almost 50 per cent since the mid-nineties, according to the National Cancer Registry. RTÉ reports that survival rates are also improving, and that much of the increase is down to the ageing population.

5. #BERTIE Bertie Ahern has launched an attack on grassroots members of Fianna Fáil, calling them ‘useless’. The Irish Daily Mail and the Irish Independent report this morning that the former Taoiseach has made the comments in a TV3 documentary due to be broadcast next week. The documentary also features an interview with Ahern’s former partner Celia Larkin who urged him to quit after a term and a half.

6. #INSOLVENCIES An average of ten companies went out of business every business day in August. New figures show that 205 companies were declared insolvent last month, a 68 per cent increase when compared to August 2010.

7. #LIBYA World leaders are meeting in Paris today to discuss the future of Libya. David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy will host the conference which will be attended by 60 countries and representatives of Libya’s National Transitional Council. Meanwhile Colonel Gaddafi’s sons are at odds on the future of the regime. One says resistance to the rebels is strong, while another says his father has authorised negotiations with the NTC.

8. #NED KELLY The remains of Irish Australian outlaw Ned Kelly have been identified, 131 years after his death, but they’re missing his skull. He was hanged for murder in 1880 and his body was buried in a mass grave at a Melbourne jailhouse. A DNA sample from one of his relatives helped identify him.

9. #SHINING ARMOUR Comedian Brendan O’Carroll has pledged to give €7,000 to man who’s been threatened by loan sharks after the man told his story on RTÉ’s Liveline programme. The Irish Daily Mirror and the Irish Daily Star report that O’Carroll was listening in Florida and offered to pay off the loan. saying “I’ve been there myself”.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 10:37 AM

    There choice to get sent there….

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:29 AM

    @Paul: Is it a choice to have the neurological disorder ADHD, a condition that affects impulsivity, causes those affected to act first and think later (32%). Is it a choice to have a mental health problem (55%)? Is it a choice to have a learning disability (36%) or learning difficulty (22% i.e. an IQ below 70)? Is it a choice to be at risk of neglect or abuse (47%)? Is it a choice to be born into a background of poverty or criminality?

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:57 AM

    @David Jordan: all very well but the vast majority of people in the world diagnosed with these issues and have steered clear of the wrong side of the law. So by your reasoning does it mean that the other ones in there are just simply bad people or shall we draw up an excuse for each and everyone. If it were the case that their mental health problems/learning disabilities/learning difficulty reduced their mental age capacity or hampered it in a way they could not differentiate between right and wrong they tm would not be in a facility like Oberstown. Oberstown is for criminals under the age of 18. Would you be signing off the same hymn sheet if they had robbed your car or held a knife to your mother’s throat and took her pension?

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:58 AM

    @Paul: absolutely, just like it was your choice not to be educated. The word is spelled ‘Their’.

    I’ll elaborate…. look at those vulnerable children over (there)’. (They’re) alone in (their) rooms without any parental guidance through no fault of their own.

    3 versions of the same sounding word.

    Seems your lack of education is not solely limited to poor spelling. Perhaps research what the potential effects of broken homes, abusive parents, alcohol related issues, lack of parental support etc have in young children.

    Hope you receive the help you need (Night classes perhaps?), just as I hope these children receive the help they themselves need.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:00 PM

    @David Jordan:
    And just so we are clear ADHD can sometimes (not always) affect impulsivity. It’s more to do with an inability to maintain persistent attention to tasks etc along with hyperactivity, hence the name. It’s far too easy nowadays to throw out a few letters and dismiss people’s actions as a result.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:01 PM

    @Paul: *their

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:46 PM

    @Paul: “Their”

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    Oct 26th 2017, 2:01 PM

    @David Jordan: The most serious well known disorder that these kids suffer from is BOLD.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 2:07 PM

    @David Jordan: oh and to your last line maybe we should start looking at that and that decisions should be taken brfore the birth of a child to determine whether prospective parents(s) have the required “where with all” to safely bring up a child.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 10:46 AM

    Never ceases to amaze me that people can be so sympathetic to children in abusive and non-loving homes but as soon as those children reach an age of about 14 all that sympathy goes straight out the window.

    Small children that don’t get the same start in life that others take for granted WILL grow up to be potentially criminals. They don’t just suddenly “learn” the right way to function in society if they’ve never been taught.

    And yet there seems to be a distinct reticence by many to fund early intervention and parental assistance. There seems to be a feeling that the parents don’t deserve help with the added bonus of the child grows into an adult that “doesn’t deserve help”.

    And so the wheel turns.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:01 AM

    @Tricia Golden: Many of these teenagers come from criminal homes. Grandfather’s, Fathers, Brothers, Uncles and Cousins, many been have and are involved in criminal activities. For them crime is as natural as going to work is for you.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:02 AM

    @Tricia Golden: The percentages are frightening. Travellers represent 23% of the inmates but are only 0.6% of the general population. This is a huge figure and it’s screaming at us to get this “Culture” removed with education and good role models. This way of life costs us taxpayers tens on millions a year but we are still not addressing the problem !

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:10 AM

    @Ser Barristan Selmy: Well done missing my point.

    I am specifically pointing to early intervention, supplying good role models and providing advice and assistance to parents long before these children reach the stage where the penal system needs to “teach them”.

    I will concede that “will” versus “potentially” but I suspect it doesn’t detract from my overall point beyond giving you something to focus on apart from my main argument.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:44 AM

    @Richard Wright: Did I say that or is it that what you yourself are thinking?

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    Oct 26th 2017, 11:52 AM

    @Richard Wright: Firstly you are assuming that I am Christian yet know nothing about me, secondly you are assuming I am writing anyone off instead of making a factual point. Anymore assumptions you would like to jump to?

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:04 PM

    @Ser, did you even read the article? No, at 14 if the “scrotes” as you call them, have NOT learned social norms. If they’re living with parents who couldn’t give a cr*p about them, where drinking or doing drugs, neglecting them, then of course they’re never going to learn what’s ok because they’ve never seen it. As for the penal system teaching them, you are out of your mind. None of this addresses the issues or fixes the problem. Does this mean we should have group hugs and candlelight vigils? No. But perhaps putting in better structures, early intervention and a social care system that works beyond 5pm on a Friday, May be places to start.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 1:34 PM

    No, Ser, they don’t. If they’ve never been taught it, and shown it, they can’t pick it up by osmosis

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    Oct 26th 2017, 1:47 PM

    @Richard Wright: A discussion between a mental health expert (West Cork Lad) and Mick Jordan,on this very topic..Maybe this will give you a better insight into Micks thoughts on these children…

    http://www.thejournal.ie/special-care-unit-hiqa-2302413-Aug2015/#comments

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    Oct 26th 2017, 1:49 PM

    @Ser Barristan Selmy: Read that article in the link that I just put up,as It might help to answer the question that you just asked of Jeannette…

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    Oct 26th 2017, 2:03 PM

    Ser, early intervention and a well staffed, proper social services Dept that opens beyond 5pm on a Friday. As to knowing right from wrong and it’s full implications, we wouldn’t expect a child who was never spoken to, to be able to speak.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 2:16 PM

    @Ser Barristan Selmy: My bad.I asked you to read the article.I should have said the comments section of it…

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    Oct 26th 2017, 10:57 AM

    Think a free hug session is over due.

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    Oct 26th 2017, 10:45 AM

    The poor darlings

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    Oct 26th 2017, 2:10 PM

    Plenty of kids and adults with adhd successful in life and not robbing backsterds and burglars and car thief’s….. And I’ve no doubt the state did all it could for them by giving them free access to doctors medication councillors. Unlike the ones who pay for it

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:32 PM

    Where is Paul Murphy’s contribution on all of this ?

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    Oct 26th 2017, 12:46 PM

    We’re in the process of creating our own home grown terrorist problem.

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    Oct 27th 2017, 5:07 PM

    This chaos has to stop. Reopen St. Pats for god sake…..

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