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Catherine Murphy is among those said to be on the brink of forming a new party. Photocall Irealnd

Don't hold your breath for that new political party...

Analysis: The latest stories about a new party being imminent are nothing new.

THERE WAS A but of buzz in political circles this morning after The Irish Times and Irish Independent both led with stories that a new political party is imminent.

Both papers reported that three prominent independent TDs, Catherine Murphy, Róisín Shortall and Stephen Donnelly have held talks about a new party.

One report said they are “close to an agreement” on what is likely to be a centre-left political party.

We’ve seen similar stories pop up over the past few years in both publications, other newspapers and indeed on TheJournal.ie. Last December we estimated there were at least six potential new parties or alliances being spoken about.

Over the last two years, the only political party that has emerged out of all this chat is Renua Ireland and it has so far failed to capture the public’s imagination.

The most recent Red C opinion poll put the party on a statistically insignificant one per cent. Despite support ebbing away from the category of ‘independents and others’ it has gone back to the government parties and not Renua.

This was something we asked party leader Lucinda Creighton about in a recent interview.

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While it is “early days” for the new party, its less than convincing performance so far leads one to wonder why a group of independent TDs and Senators would be inclined to go down a similar route and enter a formal party structure.

Those reported to be involved in this latest endeavour are all strong-minded independents. They owe their success to their personal brand and aligning themselves to a party may not be the best strategy.

Catherine Murphy has made headlines recently for her sterling work on the Siteserv/IBRC/Denis O’Brien controversy.

The Kildare North deputy was at the forefront of the the Independents’ Network, a loose alliance of non-party candidates, formed last year for the local and European elections.

It had a credible nineteen of its 36 members elected – two MEPS and seventeen councillors – but despite some pushing for a more formal structure after that electoral success, nothing happened.

Some of those involved have split off into the Shane Ross-led Independent Alliance whose stated aims are not exactly capturing voters’ eyes – if they’re even aware of them at all.

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Stephen Donnelly toyed with the idea of getting involved with the Ross-led Independent Alliance, before deciding against it earlier this year.

He has long been rumoured to be on the verge of joining one of the established parties and told the Irish Times today that he was “talking to people” about this new party.

But then he’s been doing that for sometime. It’s well-known that the Wicklow TD is keen to get involved in something but his pickiness to date doesn’t lead one to believe he will definitely jump at what’s been mooted.

Shortall was quoted this morning as saying she is “very keen” to talk to people about the idea of a new party.

Yet the Dublin North-West deputy said almost the exact same thing nearly a year ago:

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Some prominent senators are also rumoured to be involved in this new political party.

These include the leading marriage referendum campaigner Katherine Zappone, children’s rights advocate Jillian van Turnhout and former Fianna Fáiler Averil Power.

Zappone has been quietly establishing a base in Dublin South-West in recent months with a view to possibly running there as an independent in the next general election.

Any support she has built up so far would likely have been on the basis of her own personal brand and her strong advocacy for the referendum’s passage. It would seem an odd move to toss all that aside in favour of joining a party.

Meanwhile, Van Turnhout was out early this morning to say she had no involvement in what was being reported:

Power, who was out of the country last week, has already said she’s given little thought to her future political ambitions, if indeed she has any at all.

A recent ad on the front page of her local paper sparked speculation she would run for the Dáil as an independent.

But the biggest problem with all this talk of a new party is that it remains just that: talk.

The longer it goes on the more people switch off. There’s an argument to be made that Renua left it too late to make an impact ahead of a general election. The time for a new party to strike was perhaps not when the economy was as buoyant as it is now or with an election less than a year away.

When Dessie O’Malley established the Progressive Democrats in 1985, he did so at a time when the country’s national debt had skyrocketed, unemployment was at over 17 per cent and there was, within Fianna Fáil, a sizeable amount of people unhappy with the leader Charlie Haughey.

O’Malley and the PDs tapped into the idea that it could do something about the economy and offer a home for anti-Haugheyites, as well as some Fine Gaelers who felt their party was too socially conservative. For many voters that proved, albeit briefly, to be an attractive proposition.

None of what we’ve heard so far about this latest potential political party even comes close.

WATCH: What we know about Renua so far 

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    Mute ConcernedCitizen
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:41 PM

    Any party with Stephen Donnelly & Catherine Murphy at the helm will be a force to be reckoned with. I would go so far as to say such a party could well become a third force in Irish politics alongside Sinn Féin & Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael. The very best of luck to them. They have my number 1. No question. Transfers will be fascinating.

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    Mute Pepper Brooks
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    Jun 11th 2015, 11:53 PM

    So you think that Sinn Fein are an equivalent force to FF and FG combined?! Are you actually deluded?!?! Sinnfein has just 14 seats for christs sake!!

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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:39 PM

    I think they’d be a great combination. Hopefully they’re just being coy

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    Mute Mark Miller
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    Jun 11th 2015, 11:16 PM

    If a new political party was to have Stephen Donnelly at the helm, there would then potentially be a credible alternative to the FF/FG monstrosity that is consuming this country and forcing our graduates to emigrate. I have watched Stephen for a number of years and believe that this politician has the passion and dare I say honesty to bring this country kicking and screaming out of the Kenny, Ahern, Cowen era

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    Mute Pepper Brooks
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    Jun 11th 2015, 11:50 PM

    You are awful gullible aren’t you. Donnelly seems to be to be the ultimate fence sitter who would run a mile from a tough decision if in government. Just another snout in the trough

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    Mute For Connolly
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:47 PM

    This really is excellent news. Pretty much the two most trusted and capable TDs in the Dail joining forces, and if Shortall gets on board it would make the brand even more attractive. I would definitely consider giving one of their candidates a high preference vote come polling day.

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    Mute @mdmak33
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:40 PM

    hope those 3do start a party big enough to form a government. the 3 of them and a party of like minded members would definitely be the ones to vote for.

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    Mute Charlie Fogarty
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:57 PM

    Oh Hugh….Well done on creating an article based on a tweet from a women married to a committed member of FG, statements made an era ago in political terms from possible leaders AND a video from Lucinda.

    Tip. Let her finish her answer before you set her up for the easy answer. Are these interviews available unedited?

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    Mute little jim
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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:49 PM

    Looking for the pizza topping questions Charlie?

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    Mute Mrs Shalakalananaka
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:42 PM

    And yet Renua are hyped up like their new party will change the country. =/ What’s the difference?

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    Mute J's Back
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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:00 PM

    Rome wasn’t built in a day.

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    Mute Shite sticks
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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:10 PM

    Lucinda Creighton

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    Mute Dean Anderson
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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:10 PM

    It’s the media hyping up Renua to make their eventual failure and disbandment seem all the more major and a big story. Renua will go the way of Libertas soon enough

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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:11 PM

    I adore your name, Shite Sticks.

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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:01 PM

    If they got together to form a party I think we will see the same sort of excitement about voting as the marriage ref saw. It’ll be epic and instead of the voting dominated by old folks, the countries young people will finally get to pick who should be running and decimate the FG, LAB and FF’s from Leinster house.

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    Mute John S
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    Jun 11th 2015, 9:40 PM

    Centre left? Eh no thanks

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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:00 PM

    Left wing government?

    No Thanks.

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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:59 PM

    I’ve seen & heard enough to know that I wouldn’t want Averil Power in the mix.

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    Mute Tom Gleeson
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    Jun 11th 2015, 10:29 PM

    The boat has sailed, the time to set up a new party was immediately in the wake of the crisis.

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    Jun 11th 2015, 11:37 PM

    Maybe they should ask lucinda creighton to join – she doesn’t seem to be doing anything at the moment.

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    Mute John Donnelly
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    Jun 12th 2015, 11:20 AM

    Party politics don’t work! Yes the independent TD’s mentioned in the article are indeed excellent along with a lot of other independent TD’s! In all fairness in recent times independents have done a lot more for this country than any of the political parties. They do their job simply because they have to! I’m not undermining the excellent work of any independent TD but if they don’t show results they don’t get re-elected it’s as simple as that! Which brings me to my point you could form a whip system party with the most hard working and honest independent TD’s in the country but at the end of the day it becomes a whip system party that leads to corruption within it’s system eventually, all it takes is one bad egg to get to the top and we have just another political party that mirrors what we are stuck with now! At the end of the day we have a choice of a few political parties but one is as corrupt as the other! Laws need to change so that independents can lead the government not being affiliated with any political party. The work will be done! Changes will happen and corruption will stop and transparenty indeed will happen! The people will have a real choice who works for them! If the TD in question does not fulfil their promises etc they don’t get elected next time around! So my point is I wish Catherine Murphy all the best with creating a political party that in foresight will be excellent but do we really need another whip system political party? Nuff said.

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