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Here's how much it would cost to build a real Jurassic Park

How much for one raptor?

ONE OF THE underlying motives in Jurassic World is the need to create a profitable dinosaur park.

This is what pushes the creation of dangerous hybrid dinosaur Indominus Rex (which turns out not to be the best idea).

Now, it makes sense why money is always on the mind of the park’s operations manager Claire Dearing (played by Bryce Dallas Howard): Operating a dinosaur park isn’t cheap.

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video from Fandango’s Movieclips broke down all of the park’s costs and came to the conclusion that overall, running Jurassic World would cost $23,432,400,000 (around €20,800,000,000).

The video uses real life examples to figure out how much a dinosaur park would cost.

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According to Movieclips, the biggest cost would be the purchase of two islands.

There’s the one to house the dinos, Isla Nublar:

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And, then Isla Sorna, where the dinosaurs are raised:

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Both of these islands are off the coast of Costa Rica. The video used Costa Rica real estate websites to estimate that both islands combined are worth a grand total of $10,000,000,000.

Meanwhile, the park would have to employ an array of scientists, caretakers, and lawyers (who probably have a lot on their plate after every dinosaur attack).

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That adds up to a price of about $7.9 million.

Then, you actually have to clone the dinosaurs. To figure out that huge cost, the video cites real life company Bio Arts, which is one of a handful of companies that clones people’s dogs. They charge $150,000 to clone a dog. That number is multiplied by 50 to represent the 50 different dinosaurs in the park.

Adding a few other research phases brings that grand total to $8.5 million.

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For example, extracting the dinosaur DNA from mosquitoes trapped in amber is estimated to cost about $9 million.

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The construction of the park might cost something around $1.5 billion. This is a similar amount it took to build some of the world’s biggest theme parks.

According to the video, Disney spends about $11.7 billion a year in park operating expenses, or an astounding $32 million per day.

The cost to “feed, groom, and nurture” dinosaurs would be around $307 million a year.

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This number comes from the actual cost of “a very large zoo.”

The San Diego Zoo, the world’s largest zoo; it has 3,700 animals and more than 650 different species. They spend about $307 million a year in operating expenses, which would be about the same cost for caring for the dinosaurs.

Once you’ve brought all those dinosaurs back, you have to keep them alive.

Add up all these costs for a grand total of $23,432,400,000 with annual repeating costs of $11,907,000,000. So while park attendance seems to be high and tickets to get in aren’t cheap, it takes a lot to break even.

No word though on how much it costs to purchase all those great white sharks that Mosasaurus feasts on in the film.

mosasaurus2 Universal Pictures / YouTube Universal Pictures / YouTube / YouTube

Jurassic World is currently in cinemas. It recently broke a few box-office records.

Watch the full video below:

Jurassic Park Fansite / YouTube

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:02 PM

    Roy from the IT crowd:

    “Have you tried switching it on and off again?”

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:04 PM

    Pól – Never ever underestimate the power of a reboot.

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:07 PM

    “Is ot plugged in”

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    Mute stephen cullen
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:36 PM

    Nothing worse than being bullied by a nerd.

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    Mute Kane Abel
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:38 PM

    Paddy Cosgrave at the Bakery – “This loaf I chose specifically and paid for is far too small – That’s it I’m leaving the Country…..

    What a Buffoon, how dare he blame the nation of Ireland for this utter debacle.

    - I hope he takes his nonsense convention to the UK and suffers a self-inflicted fatal identity-badge pin stabbing.

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    Mute John S
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    Nov 7th 2014, 7:39 AM

    I’d say many Dublin businesses would disagree with you Kane. The event brings massive money to Dublin, hardly an armageddon if somebody organising a Internet based event demands stable wifi, and definitely not a good enough reason to tell him to take the event elsewhere

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    Mute Derek Smalls
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    Nov 7th 2014, 7:51 AM

    Nerd organises massive nerd summit.
    Nerd forgot to do a proper feasibility study on nerd convention venue and picks a thoroughly unsuitable one.
    Nerd blames other people for his really, really stupid mistake.

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    Mute James
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    Nov 6th 2014, 5:59 PM

    He’s the organiser so he’s ultimately responsible. He chose the venue and its up to him to look over at what the RDS said they were to provide wifi wise..

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:24 PM

    Not really. The RDS are a bunch of bandits but they city ransomed.

    They rob Leinster blind but there isn’t another stadium the right size available. The web summit can’t go anywhere else due to its size.

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    Mute Mark O'Connor
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:33 PM

    Wait a second, so you’re complaining that RDS is capitalising on their monopoly? Surely the RDS should try and get as much as possible out of its clients knowing there is no competition… Leinster can always go back to Donnybrook if they don’t like it.

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    Mute Marc MacFhearchair
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:58 PM

    100% agree.. End of story!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:00 PM

    With David that is.. The buck stops with Cosgrave!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Give the ould rds a break shur all they know about are horses and rugby. On a serious note this is an utter joke. The venue is letting the country down on a global scale.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:09 PM

    The buck does stop with cosgrave and hence he might move it elsewhere in Europe.

    If Ireland simply cannot host the event then he has to go elsewhere.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:18 PM

    The technical challenges in providing that sort of access are monumental, not sure who told the RDS their infrastructure would be fine for this sort of thing, but if you’re looking at something easily in the region of 25,000 devices needing access between the attendees and the exhibitors and the staff, there are very few places in the world that can provide that sort of service for a week.

    I’ve got a hotel events background (as both a front of house staff and IT department person) and 99% of these problems in my experience came from an uneducated conference sales team with no comprehension of the scale of the requirements or the amount of work involved in putting something in place to manage it. I’ve seen events for only 300ish people simply not being paid for because a handful of attendees had problems with WiFi connectivity, can’t even imagine the fallout from something on this scale.

    People do lose jobs over mistakes and reputational damage of this nature, squeaky bum time in the RDS management team’s office right now I’m sure!

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    Mute Jamie O'Connor
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:34 PM

    Spot on Dav.

    Disappointing that Paddy Cosgrove and the Web summit team took no personal responsibility and blamed the venue, and Ireland in general – and his speech didn’t go down well at the event.
    As Paddy himself said, they would have preferred a provider such as Cisco to manage the Wifi – unfortunately they did not have the conviction or real understanding of the potential pitfalls of agreeing to RDS in house IT management for this event to be able to follow this through and convince the RDS management that an external provider was required in this case.
    The Web Summit organisers should have known in advance the proposed service would not work.

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    Mute Shane O'Donnell
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:54 PM

    Given the ticket prices I’m not surprised he’s trying to pass the blame on.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:06 PM

    Shag of Jamie you tosser.

    The blame lies solely with the RDS. There is nowhere else in the city able to handle something of this scale in reasonable surroundings. The conference center is 1/3rd the size.

    They have been asking to use their own Wi-Fi for years now. The RDS has outright refused and there is nowhere else to go in Ireland.

    What can he do? Please explain what they could do…

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:14 PM

    It’s nothing to do with the web summit organisers. Unless they took the head of the RDS hostage at gunpoint he wasn’t letting them do it themselves. This isn’t a new problem.

    If you can criticize paddy for two things fairly. Believing an Irishman and not taking it elsewhere in Europe this year.

    They can’t fit into any other quality venue in Dublin and that venue will not under any circumstances allow adequate Wi-Fi.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 6:41 AM

    Why are the ticket prices between €650-€1500 and how do they justify it?

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    Nov 7th 2014, 11:20 AM

    It is not unusual for an organiser to specify his/her requirements to a venue.

    This failing is entirely down to the RDS and it reminds me of many hotels which “have” Wifi, however due to a lack of investment (not wanting to spend on what is perceived as something which generates no revenue) many hotels I stay in have wifi in name only and it is practically unusable between say 7pm and midnight. I stay in hotels throughout Ireland, UK and europe midweek every week – most hotels and event venues balk at the cost of providing both access points, routers and backhaul of the scale required to provide meaningful wifi at peak times OR their modelling is wrong in terms of number of wifi users per 1000 – this has gone from less than 1000 a few years ago to multiples of 1000 now, with most people having several devices – and more so at a web summit.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Supply and demand. It did sell out

    Lots of investors present, so access to capital is why most go. The prices are pretty normal for an industry trade show with good speakers.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 11:37 AM

    I think it’s more likely down to the inadequate bandwidth available in ballsbridge. The infrastructure for internet connections that we have in this country is pathetic, especially for a country that is constantly trying to pull in tech businesses to operate here. The next government needs to put as much effort into the internet infrastructure as the current one has put into setting up IW. If the bandwidth capacity in the heart of the capital is that poor how are the rest of us poor schmucks out in the sticks supposed to get anything done. I have an internet connection that is 6 times slower than the basic connection I had in london a decade ago. This is the legacy of Eircom, that wonderfull sucess story of semi state privatisation…..

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    Nov 7th 2014, 11:42 AM

    Colm your rant is way off.

    There is no bandwidth problem in Ballsbridge. In fact it has some of the best in the country. Plenty of banks, Traders and other companies that require crazy band width are located on the very near vicinity.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:22 PM

    that high? wow Cosgrove is really a greedy nerd :)

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    Nov 7th 2014, 2:07 PM

    Colm – its nothing to do with bandwidth or capacity in the area, but more likely to do with the bandwidth they were willing to pay for.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 4:19 PM

    You know who installed the wifi network in the RDS right?
    Answer: Eircom.

    I rest my case.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 7:42 PM

    Brian, Just wondering exactly what you call “crazy band width”? I suspect that what are needed to transfer text based data by a bank or trader is somewhat less than that tequired for a few hundred people streaming large data content files all at the same time.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:14 PM

    It’s not rocket science, it is hard to believe that the organisers didn’t check out this basic requirement.
    Can you imagine the organisers of the Munich Beer Festival running out of beer?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:50 PM

    It might not be rocket science but providing wifi connectivity to tens of thousands of devices simultaneously (phones, tablets, laptops, etc of which many attendees will have more than one) is far from easy.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:00 PM

    It’s not easy, but not impossible. Both the RDS and Web Summit need to sort out their contracts or plans. It doesn’t matter if it’s young scientist, funderland or web summit, they should be able to provide wifi for all.

    Still disagree with Cosgrave calling out the RDS manager at every chance, apologise, take the blame & take it offline. I’m sure Bono and Peter Thiel weren’t considering cancelling over not being able to read thejournal backstage.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:08 PM

    He should of course blame the person responsible. They can’t go anywhere else in the city, the RDS refuses to allow them to do it themselves.

    Alpha pitchers paid 1500 and often couldn’t do demos.

    The blame lies solely with the RDS.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 5:58 PM

    they didn’t do the research needed, the RDS can’t cope with that level of demand, the Dublin conference centre would have been a better fit of a venue.

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    Mute GP
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:04 PM

    The Convention Centre has a 7000 capacity at a max, allocated across various halls and a modest auditorium. It is not an adequate venue for a conference of this size, by a long way.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:24 PM

    You would think of the providers could make it happen and make themselves a fortune

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:03 PM

    How can such a daft suggestion get so many thumbs ups?

    What is wrong with you people?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:40 PM

    Will someone please invest in the new app from Sinn Féin… the KneeK App?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:21 PM

    They wanted to bring in Cisco to build the wifi infrastructure, but the RDS said it had the be their system at a cost of€400k for the three days.

    I wouldn’t be paying that bull in full if I was paddy cosgrave

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:12 PM

    Somebody at the conference accidently typed google into google

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:17 PM

    I’ve been in conference halls all around Europe and I’m always amazed how consistently rubbish the wifi is. I’m not surprised with the RDS though. It’s run by a bunch tweed-wearing landed gentry. They probably spec’d it for the home and garden show and forgot how much 22,000 web entrepreneurs tend to use t’internet. Bloody embarrassing!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:43 PM

    Hey, leave tweed out of it! Everything else, spot on.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:08 PM

    The man had a point: when will widespread and reliable broadband be as much an everyday service as electricity or, er, water?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:01 PM

    You’re talking about a lot of devices though, not many places would be able to cope with such demand.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:16 PM

    Its the web summit not exactly going to be full of internet dodgers surely first class wifi would have way up the top of needs assessment

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:19 PM

    He’s the CEO..his problem..why didn’t he get on to Cisco and order enough routers and servers….22,000 on WiFi at same time is a serious ask!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:30 PM

    I believe (I’m sure someone can confirm) that they wanted to bring a third party in to manage it but the venue said no.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:47 PM

    Cisco would probably cost more than RDS’ offering. It’s a fundamental failure from all parties, very easy for him to point the blame at someone else.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:05 PM

    Blame Eircom they are the license holder’s for supplying any internet to the RDS and won’t budge apparently. Exact same thing happened last year due to their usual incompetance you really think they would have learned their lesson

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:04 PM

    The wifi code was “404networkunavailable”

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:19 PM

    Just in:
    “Spoilt rich kid throws soother out of pram”

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Kid who planned the first meetup from his bedroom and had the first websummit in a Pub with zero backing but his mates and some small sponsors. Yes your quote is as good as the username you hide behind. He could move the show to the UK or anywhere in EU and any country/venue would kill to get the event. These attendees don’t care where it is, they can network in any event and see these startups anywhere. Its not the advanced public transport/wifi and weather they are coming for.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:31 PM

    You ever dealt with the guy Stevo? Maybe ask the people in the RDS if that headline is accurate eh? Good Chap

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:21 PM

    Well thats embarrassing. The €400,000 should be refunded for service not provided as per contract. If a judge ruled in favour of it then you’d be sure the WiFi would be independently organised next year.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:05 PM

    Heads should role but knowing Ireland who ever f?cked up will get a pension and pat on the back for a job well done.

    Idiots!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:04 PM

    Why not hold it outside Dublin eg UL

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:03 PM

    Because the tech firms are based here, there is adequate accommodation, all hotels were booked solid. Including all the four stars.
    Lots of attendees wouldn’t go to some where else.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:37 PM

    The RDS are responsible for not making sure there was a system in place that could provide an acceptable level WIFI to all attendees over the duration of the conference. There will always be glitches but there should be a team in place to sort this out as soon as it happens, obviously RDS didn’t have enough technical support to handle the problems that arose. I’ve been to events like this, not as big as this I will say but there is always the possibility of network problems which is inconvenient but usually gets fixed pronto, so no big deal.
    I will say that it is my one bugbear when in Ireland is the extremely slow broadband, it infuriates me.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:17 PM

    There appears to have been no back up in place at all for the event. This sort of high profile event needs at least a triple back up.If one goes down they have to be able to switch straight away.This lot seem like they couldn’t sort out the lights on a Christmas tree.If I were the organiser I be looking for a full refund and another venue for next year.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:36 PM

    He should have gotten a Trinity grad to sort it out… Oh wait! :-/

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:40 PM

    F**k off then Paddy if you’re not happy with it. I certainly won’t miss you or your web summit. Don’t be giving out threats like a spoiled child.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:16 PM

    What a silly comment. Good wifi is incredibly important at conferences like this, it’s used so attendees can both keep up to date and demo their products to others. Hardly a spoilt kid throwing his toys out of the pram. It’s simply not good enough. And you may not miss his summit, but Dublin would bloody well miss the €100m it brings in.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:54 PM

    You’re obviously not familiar with Paddy Cosgrave.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:55 PM

    And you obviously have a massive chip on your shoulder

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:05 PM

    John, it bought in 100 million euro to the city. I welcome it.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:21 PM

    Chip on my shoulder about what?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:24 PM

    So you would prefer the same 20K attendees spending €10m and perhaps considering where they next invest to move somewhere else in the EU and stage the event there. Its not the RDS who get the blame for the equivalent of now power. Its an Internet event with poor internet. Would you go to the a music event if they told you the power and sound acoustics were going to fail throughout the event. Would you be angry? You bet. I would. Then again maybe you just accept the mediocre, the good enough, the passable….

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:39 PM

    I couldn’t care less about the web summit, i was making a stab at Paddy Cosgrave.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 6:49 AM

    brought €100 million to who, where was that amount spent?

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    Nov 7th 2014, 11:22 AM

    Hotels, bars, restaurants, investments in Irish companies, jobs, tech firms basing themselves here, etc

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    Mute Mercurial Manchester
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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:37 PM

    Spoiled rich kid charges ticket prices only spoiled rich kids can afford, who wodda thunk…

    Obviously attempt at trying to keep youngsters & ‘plebs’ away from the RDS.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Its not for individuals, it’s for companies, each of which can write it off as a buisness expense.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:56 PM

    Many attendees from the US etc who rub successful companies have set up offices here and employ Irish people as a result. Don’t underestimate the selling power of the summer long after the 3 days. If a football stadium with 80,000 can deliver Wi-Fi to 80% this should have been a doodle but it requires a serious spend.

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    Mute David Malone
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:57 PM

    Run successful obviously… auto correct crap

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    Mute Marko Burns
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:01 PM

    Better idea- invite them all out west next year and…oops…no wifi at all, no tv, no electricity. Lock the doors and get drunk and talk shyte for 3 days around an open fire. That would be an Irish tech conference to remember. The Sum’it…

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    Mute fact&ionlydealinfact
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:04 PM

    Should have been checked properly before all the nerds arrived, end of. Anybody who expected the RDS to have adequate wifi needs their head examined.

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    Mute Brendan Cunningham
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:28 PM

    The most common line at the startup desks (including ours) was “I’d show you a live demo of our App if we had connectivity.”
    Amazing how many live demos were available, but couldn’t be seen.

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    Mute The Hooded Biscuit
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:38 PM

    They’re were wired connections at all the booths

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    Mute Brendan Cunningham
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:41 PM

    Not sure phones/tablets connect to LAN cables for App demos.

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    Mute John Fahey
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    Nov 7th 2014, 7:58 AM

    I take a small wifi router with me when travelling, incase the room’s wifi is terrible – plug it into the wall and away I go. For the amount of money people pay for their booths, it’s poor planning they didn’t bring a similar back up.

    Having said that, ultimately the blame lies with the organisers, and pathetic to try place the blame elsewhere. In short, the guy admitted he was too weak to negotiate a proper service for his customers.

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    Mute Mercurial Manchester
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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:27 PM

    Nerds don’t tend to be that good at the haggling & wheeling & dealing end of business.
    That’s why you lock them up in a room together till they design an app/product that your marketing team can flog :)

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    Mute Colm O'Leary
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    Nov 7th 2014, 8:56 PM

    I’m pretty sure all tablets and phones will only connect using wifi or bluetooth. If wired connections were provided by the RDS it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of where thechnology is today and what is required to host a high tech event. The people attending, even if they had computers that could connect with a wired connection, wouldn’t have brought such arcaic things as a lan cable with them when they travelled.

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    Mute Irish Steven
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:22 PM

    Stop making excuses you tw*ts, Wifi in this country is brutal.
    Compare it to a little country like Estonia and we might as well be in the 1960′s

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    Mute Darragh Flynn
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:50 PM

    I think by WiFi you mean an internet connection – WiFi signal has its limitations based on what standard (a/b/g etc) the router that emits it supports not the pipe in from the internet. Anyway, internet in Ballsbridge should me absolutely flawless, most Irish ISPs have very solid worldwide ranking.

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    Mute John Moylan
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:36 PM

    Paddy really is a brat: doesn’t say much for his stewardship if a Web summit has no Web access…….so much for the knowledge economy, huh ?

    And why make excuses for it/Paddy ?

    Ever been to Disney in Florida ? Hundreds of acres, thousands of Buildings, 10′s of 1000′s of people every day, all flooded with high speed – free – Wifi.

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    Mute Paddy Hannigan
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:11 PM

    Are you really camparing a large shed in Dublin to an operation the size of Disney World ?I’m pretty sure they have dropped the bones of a 100m + on their gear. I think the RDS will have to get used to the idea that without a major upgrade of their facilities they just aren’t able to support such an event.Disney World btw is pretty much the size of a small city in itself so can justify the spend.The RDS are a ‘ma and paw’ operation IN a small city.It can be done but not with the attitude they are currently displaying at the moment.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:21 PM

    What do they expect Its Ireland half of the country have no broadband

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:05 PM

    Paddy Cosgrave smacks of arrogance and shouldn’t have said what he said. People work damn hard at these events. If it’s anyone’s fault it’s his and he should be sacked for bad mouthing this event and the people that made it happen

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    Mute Stephen Doherty
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:03 PM

    So its Paddys fault that the RDS promised a service it could not deliver on day1!! Whats in it for Paddy to bad mouth an event he set up!! Paddy asked if he could use his own suppliers but was told no and the RDS promised a service when it signed the contract. Perhaps you’re a very slow learner so I will excuse your idiot remark…

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    Mute Joey Dempsey
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:35 PM

    Would this chap care to enlighten us as to whom the internet service provider was? No doubt they were a major sponsor of this event.

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    Mute Stephen Doherty
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:57 PM

    I read Agile Networks were awarded a €400K contract in 2013 to put in a brand new network., Looks like it was never designed for to cope even though they knew of the failure in 2013 with 10K attendees. If the Aviva and Croke Park can cope then there is no excuse considering RDS knew there was going to be a bigger event in 2014. For the RDS who were founded on providing a venue to promote science and agriculture it seems bizzare. If I were the RDS, I would be making a refund and having a brutally blunt chat with the suppliers. It wasn’t just the 1st day of no WIFI but Paddy noted it was frequent and in the main speaking hall…I would not just expect a working wifi but something that was good enough to be talked about. Paddy did mention it also concerned an outside connection (ie the ISP?) for the first day so not all the fault is RDS. Looks like total lack of backup plan.

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    Mute Morgan Ruigrok
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:14 PM

    If they want to be taken seriously as a venue, then they need to get with the times. Wifi solutions have become more affordable and flexible. Huawei have been installing kits in footballs stadia across Europe for a while now.

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    Mute chateau nove de pope
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:03 PM

    His Xbox is lagging

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    Mute Tony
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:04 PM

    It happens to all of us.

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    Mute Inntalitarian
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:24 PM

    Where are all day he geniuses from the last thread who were saying this is standard and expected. Obviously not if the organiser is threatening relocation based on this issue alone.

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    Mute Hairy lemon
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:07 PM

    It is NOT standard to have really bad wifi at a conference – at least not all the way through it. From what we are lead to believe by Paddy Cosgrave the RDS said they HAD to provide it. That’s plausible because you give yourself a whole lot of problems trying to set something like that up in just a few days – it’s much better if it’s in-situ, well tested with experienced support personnel.

    But given the problems it appears this was a quick set-up job. If that was the case why did the RDS insist on taking it on given they are not a network provision company? It was a risk that really didn’t pay off.

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    Mute cooperguy
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:13 PM

    I was one person who said it happens in other places. Which it does. Obviously its substandard but that’s not the point.

    The point is that there were comments basically saying “typical Irish”. As if the fact it was an Irish event somehow made it substandard or more likely to mess up. The people making those comments need to gain a little self repect, there is nothing inherently Irish about having bad WiFi at a huge conference.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:59 PM

    It’s not unusual for the Wi-Fi to go down at a conference. Even a tech conference. The scale of failure only became apparent over time.

    The Wi-Fi apparently never worked properly at the main stage over the entire 3 days. It also failed repeatedly in other areas. That’s pretty poor.

    There is a difference

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:20 PM

    Fair enough, the WiFi didn’t work. Pretty crappy service from the RDS, and something that should have been checked out in advance. But threatening to take your summit to another country because of the RDS is monumentally childish. Instead of threatening all and sunder, could this technology expert not try and contribute to fixing the issue? Or is he just a self-inflated emcee and not part of the act?

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    Mute Stephen Doherty
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:18 PM

    He asked the RDS (based on his experience in 2013) to use his own suppliers (at his own cost) and the RDS said no – their brand new investment put in, to avoid the same debacle, proved to be poor enough that it was commented around the world. What should he have said to those who paid to display and attend when they could not get a working connection? Don’t blame me – blame the RDS?? Do you hear of the same issues in Berlin/London or the US? at similar events?? If I was the RDS, I would give up now and allow Websummit to organise their own- its a no win for the RDS and a massive further investment for 4 days in 2015. I would refund websummit and they should offer some of the same to any attendee or booth who wanted to come back in 2015.

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    Mute Peter Slattery
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:39 PM

    Fair point, and the RDS is to blame. But his reaction is incredibly petulant. There are plenty of other places something like this could be held. Saying you’re taking the summit abroad because of the RDS? Overreaction.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:02 PM

    Conference center is 7000 and no room for exhibits. The web conference is 22,000.

    There is nowhere else in the city.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 6:46 AM

    sounds bigheaded alright, wouldn’t have said that 3 years ago. meh, happens to them all i guess. let him on, go to oooo san fran cisco and stay there till the big IT belly up.

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    Mute Mercurial Manchester
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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:35 PM

    Don’t expect glorified coders/hackers to be business/ PR experts.

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    Mute John Fagan
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Did you tell the ‘shinners’ about it they’ll sort everything out and bring back Elvis

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:13 PM

    The Rds should be consigned to the demolition pile. If this was the states this shed would have been pulled down long ago. Were still not learning from past mistakes. I am so glad to be leaving this country very soon. But at the same time I am enraged that I have to go. I just can’t put up with all the bull and all the cronyism anymore. I hope to return some day and hopefully there will be people in power who know how to run things properly.

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    Mute Alan Ball
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:14 PM

    If it is one of those little white vodafone ones….You can improve the reception by changing to o2…..

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    Mute Adrian De Cleir
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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:06 AM

    Just use your data you cheap asses

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    Mute Charlie Melia
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:21 PM

    There far too many tradeshows anyway…….. Give up going to them and you won’t have to waste valuable time and get frustrated

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    Mute Get Lost Eircodes
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:35 PM

    Why CISCO why not a European brand?

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    Mute Denis Reidy
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:51 PM

    Because they are in this country and are very good at what they do. No i dont work for them

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:06 PM

    Because there the best and industry standard , what european company would you have you. You do k

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    Mute Stephen Doherty
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:29 PM

    Because they offered and it would be embarrassing if they failed so they would make sure it worked 100%. No reason any other EU provider could offer also if they were willing to put the investment, time and personnel in for free. Because its one of the best events to show off what you can do. Google showed it at this years event. Also not many EU brands I can think off that have the network hardware and local presence here…

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    Mute Smart Storage
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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:11 AM

    In fairness they couldn’t manage to get decent wifi for the ideal homes show! With no tech support on ..because it was a long weekend! Not surprised so poor for #websummit! Terrible service!

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    Mute Alyssa Frank
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:07 PM

    I volunteered for the Web summit in 2012 and they had dodge wifi back then!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:16 PM

    HOW DARE YOU!! Minister for Communications, the right honourable Mr. Patrick J. Rabbitte was at the helm & said there was sufficient broadband enough for everyone!!! … or is that just something you say at election time … ?

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    Nov 7th 2014, 3:19 AM

    only in ireland.a web summit and we cant provide wifi.a piss up in a brewery comes to mind

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    Nov 7th 2014, 5:16 AM

    A few things paddy should have done this week, cleaned his chimney, looked in the mirror when he was attributing blame for Wi-Fi, been proud of his fantastic achievement, Not permitted cynical journalists concentrate on an issue when truly great things were happening, don’t threaten his country which contributed to his success people like coming to Dublin,

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:36 PM

    Tried a hammer more like, a wee tip will fix her

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    Mute Ciaran Dixon
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:17 PM

    Routers,Down,Sorry, sure tis in the name Paddy!!

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    Mute OU812
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:21 PM

    Frigging autocorrect

    * bill =\= bull

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    Mute Raul Naranjo
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    Nov 7th 2014, 1:05 PM

    U must be all idiots if you think that there were 22k ppl at the same time…

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    Nov 7th 2014, 9:20 AM

    Ah yes, the RDS. They are not known for attention to detail after all. During this years Nations Cup they had a fence with replicas of old Irish telephone boxes. (Remember them?) The A and B button era. In the illuminated sign was written “telefone”, when in reality every Irish phone box had “telefón”. Regarding the wifi issue, surely the blame must be with the poor broadband infrastructure nationally.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:58 PM

    Huge web summit, no wifi. I think paddy has a right to be pissed off. I mean if it was wine event and they no access to wine it would look equally as daft. A web event surely requires access to the web. But hey what do I know, I’m not one of the RDS tech guys, I have wifi.

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    Mute Paddy Dunleavy
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    Nov 7th 2014, 10:16 AM

    For technical and management reasons the RDS is a non starter.
    “There are limitations on the number of concurrent users within each of the halls and meeting rooms.”
    “The network is capable of supporting up to 20,000 concurrent devices across the whole site. – See more at: http://www.rds.ie/index.jsp?p=102&n=676#sthash.iB26CPZP.dpuf
    11. Users may experience issues accessing the Wi-Fi network from time to time due to device specific and or user error. RDS cannot control such issues and will only provide assistance where the client has purchased a premium service or arranged specific on-site support in advanced of an event.
    12. The use of any other wireless networks or setting up of rogue networks is strictly forbidden. – See more at: http://www.rds.ie/index.jsp?p=102&n=676#sthash.iB26CPZP.dpuf
    The specification of the network, support, and conditions, the RDS published well before this event was clearly Inadequate. Paddy offered a solution. RDS management refused in an inflexible and manner. If they maintain this position the event should never be held there again.

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