@Andy K:
Hellfire on Israel-the joy of the Jew-haters.

It’s interesting, in Louis Theroux’s documentary “The Ultra Zionists”, it was the Jewish Settlers that started wild fires to try to burn Palestinian crops, unintended consequences were that the fire spread to their own crops.

Ye Andy that excuses burning people from their homes. The brits would be proud.

@Brendan McGill: There was no crops until the Jews bought and settled the land from Arab absentee land-owners who preferred living the good life in Syria to toughing it out in the malaria-infested swampland of Palestine at that time. But Jew-haters will like your post.

You seem like quite a hate filled individual there yourself Patrick.

@Brendan McGill:
I hate terrorists and those who back them like the Jew-haters on site here.

Muslim terrorists behead one priest in France and the world looses it’s mind yet when they kill dozens of Jews in Israel it’s the victims fault. If that isn’t anti semitism then what is ?

Anyone who disagrees with the shocking decisions of the Israeli state is a Jew hater in your eyes Patrick. And if you’re Jewish and disagree you’re a “self-hating Jew”. Get in the sea

Extremist Jews started the fire that killed an 18 month old in Duma. But it *was* called terrorism, and treated as such, by the Israelis

Stephen Todd your constant stream of anti-Jewish vitriol makes you a jew hater.

My hate is not for Judaism. It’s for the state of Israel and their human rights abuses. Two very different things. Your attempt to conflate the two does nothing for actual anti-semitism either

Ah the whole “I’m not anti Jewish, I just hate the place where the majority of the worlds Jew’s happen to live” argument. I’ve got news for you sweetie… you’re anti Jewish now at least have the decency to own it.

@Poole Hyde: To hate the actions of a group is not to hate the group for their genetics…sweetie. The term anti-Semitic is an outrageously over used political exploit which aims to help Jews and Israelis define themselves as a group and as a nation of victims. So much so they can’t even recognise when anyone else is a victim.

It’s a rancid turn of the table altogether.

Poole there is a greater majority of Jewish People living outside of Israel than in it.

If I was anti Jewish I’d admit it. But I’m not, and you calling me that doesn’t make it any more true. It’s a known tactic to shut down any criticism people may have of Israel, a terrorist state

But theyre not a nation of victims. They identify as a wonderfully tough nut to crack. 3 times multinational armies have tried to destroy Israel and have failed. They show what a small nation can achieve with determination and dedication.

Oh so now anti semitism is being over used? Was it a Christian deli attacked in France? Is it some other religions graveyards and places of worship being routinely vandalised by Neo Nazis? Were there not Nazi salutes being given at political rallies in the states recently. Do you not even see what you’ve just typed ?

Anti-semitism is overused yes. An argument against any act of Israel is labelled as such. It conflates Judaism and Zionism. Are you a Zionist? It’s a dangerous game to play

Israel is a Jewish state you hate Jews just have the stones to admit it.

I despise American foreign policy. American is a Christian state, I don’t hate Christian. But good point well made Keith, keep up the good work

I have to agree with shephen- a govt actions is not the people. If you protested against tony Blair’s war , did that mean you hated English people? Of course not.

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: I never suggest anyone started any fire, I don’t know and I won’t speculate.

“AROUND 1,500 MIGRANTS have rioted in Bulgaria’s largest refugee camp” & “Migrants set fire to a camp on the Greek island of Lesbos yesterday”

It’s getting to much trendy. Europe suddenly could find it self in the same boat.

@Poole Hyde: Of course I do. Anything which doesn’t paint the Jews in a positive light is labelled anti-Semitic.

The ADL scream about everything unflattering to Jews being anti-Semitic. I even remember them calling the Passion of the Christ anti-Semitic.

@Charlie Wrex: Pretty easy to do when you’r getting billions a year from the US for defense. I’m pretty sure with that kind of bread I could fortify myself in my back garden against anything.

Having said that it’s not like the Palestinians in their crippled state pose much of a threat.

Killian, what US billions did Israel utilise in 1948, 1967 or 1973? The requirement to spend so much on military defence/ deterrence is precisely because its learned its lesson from its short history. Their neighbours wouldnt need much encouragement to attack if they felt for one moment Israel had dropped its guard. “Si vis pacem para bellum”

In those years you’d be talking about millions. If someone just planted their entire family on my lawn and started building houses I wouldnt need much further provocation either.

Except youd be wrong again Killian. Israel started buying US military equipment in 1962. It only started receiving US grant military aid after the 1973 Yom kippur war.

Sorry, hit post too soon. Whose lawn were they on: Egypt? Syria? Jordan? Iraq? Lebanon? Saudi Arabia? Yemen? Pakistan? Sudan? Thats who showed up to destroy Israel. Must have been a rude awakening for them to be beaten by what was essentially a civilian armed forces. Promises of vanquished jews and celebrations ended up with bloodied noses and reputations in tatters.

@Killian O’Hara:
You do have and continue to rerceive from the gullible Jew-Haters of the world the biggest slice of aid splashed around.
But you allow your murderous terrorist leaders to misuse the loot to enrich themselves. That’s one of the main purposes of keepin’ the terror going -to get sympathy and money from the from your fellow Jew-haters.
—”A closer look at the remaining eight countries in the top 10—Sudan, South Sudan, Jordan, Lebanon, Somalia, Ethiopia, Afghanistan and the Democratic Republic of Congo—is even more alarming. CIA Factbook data show that these countries have a combined population of 284 million and an average per capita GDP of $2,376. Yet they received an average of $15.30 per capita in development assistance in 2013. The Palestinians, by comparison, with a population of 4.5 million, have a per capita GDP of $4,900.

In other words, though the Palestinians are more than twice as wealthy on average than these eight countries, they receive more than 11 times as much foreign aid per person. The Democratic Republic of Congo is a case in point: Its 79 million people have a per capita GDP of $700, yet they receive only $5.70 in aid per person.—”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/where-does-all-that-aid-for-palestinians-go-1453669813

@Killian O’Hara:
Trinity grad Denis McEoin who is an expert on the ME speaking their langs. and living among them for over 20 yrs disagrees with the likes of you and your ilk.
—”Israel’s occupation of the West Bank is fully legal under the terms of UN Resolution 242 (1967), which was carefully drafted to guarantee Israel’s rights to remain there until such time as there is a “Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force—”
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7024/eu-laws-target-israel

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: Wow cool story.

In that case I’m just going to write my own resolution called Patricks Forehead 343 (2016) and occupy the area with my balls.

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: I’ll carefully draft it so as to guarantee my right to rest them on your head until such a time as you stop talking shite.

@Killian O’Hara: Or you could go back to Grangegorman or whatever is the current equivalent is where you belong .

@Patrick j you should be well aware by now that they don’t like to be told the truth, it don’t fit in with their Jew (sorry Israel!!) hating!

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: To late. It’s been written and passed into legislation. My Balls’ occupation of your forehead will probably go on forever just like Israels occupation of Palestine and I’m going to need to fart every so often so I included an additional section about willy nilly carpet bombing you with fiery hell from my arse whenever I’m displeased at anything you do.

@Killian O’Hara:
I love schitzos Killian but you do belong in Grangegorman.Good day to you.

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: Are you saying DIT students are schizophrenic?

Interestingly while our Jew hater are up their usual c r a problem Israel neighbours are contributing to help fight the fires , including Jordan, Egypt, Azerbaijan and Arab (Palestinian) fire fighters from the west bank are there too!! Need we say more!!

@Bill Madden: The most infuriating thing about Israel is not even the humanitarian crimes it commits.

It’s that they’re so deceitful. The propaganda.

You see these pictures of IDA forces putting a Palestinian on a stretcher after blowing the shite out of the place. Or waffle statements about how well Arabs are treated inside Israel.

It’s like a rapist in front of a crowd going for every hole and then giving their victim a band aid for their finger.

Stephen do you know the first thing about Israel have you ever been there
Is your information from Mick Wallace twitter posts

I don’t have to have travelled to Israel to know a substantial amount about it. It’s a state with no right to exist, I got that far. Mick Wallace isn’t particularly strong on it either

It has every ‘right to exist’. Dont be silly Stephen.

A state with no right to exist sort of sums it up
If you Stephen 2000 miles away who had never been there hate Israel so much
Imagine what the Jews there have to put up with They live in a dangerous neighbourhood have fought 3 wars for their very existence and still have 2 million Arabs living in Israel itself
Israel has a right to defend itself

According to who? Britain? The Sykes-Picot agreement? A fairytale book?

@Stephen Todd:
Be honest! You hope they carpet bomb. Your kind couldn’t give a damn about the lives of ordinary Palestinians or anyone else. You just want get genociding the Jews as you prophet inspires you to to ‘asuage your anger’ as Mohammed desired.

@Stephen Todd:
Unless you were starting a fire and need time to run away………..

What drivel are you spewing? Nonsensical to say the least. My prophet? Haha I’m neither a follower of Islam nor Judaism. I just disagree with the ill treatment of the Palestinian people. Catch a grip before you run away with yourself you hate filled C U N T

Stephen, Israel’s right to exist was asserted by the UN General Assembly in 1947. If youre going criticise Israel for not accepting the authority of the UN you should really accept it yourself

@Stephen Todd:
Don’t ‘lose your rag’ idiot!

How very selective of Israel. I’m not a state signed up to any UN Convention, I’m sure the Israeli state should be slightly more responsible than myself. I’m not losing the rag at all, I’m just calling you what you are. Sorry if it wasn’t PC enough for you

@Stephen Todd:
LOL

Stephen time to look in the mirror, we can easily see where the hate is coming from and interestingly it’s not from the pro Israeli but the uneducated pond life that us usually surfaces to spew their bile at the Jews (but try and hide it as Israeli hatred) well get used to it the Jews are not going to line up for you and meekly walk into a gas chamber again! (I soetimes wonder at the hatred for such a small group of people, about 20 million world wide, I think a visit to Dr Phil might help)

“The State of Israel has no right to exist” is using the same type argument that the Loyalists use in NI ie. that a people kicked off their lands centuries ago should just move on and leave it all in the past. The Palestinians made their own bed when they elected Hamas, an organization responsible for countless acts of terrorism not just in Israel but in Europe as well. The type of “state” they want to establish should horrify any sane person. Everything the left usually stands against from the subjugation of woman, the murder of homosexuals, the establishment of a 5th century theocracy etc is what is on the cards and rather than stand against it they are championing it, out marching for it, on news sites screaming for it’s establishment. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. They’ll attack a baker here for not baking a cake yet support a “government” that sentences homosexual teenagers to be flung from buildings. They fill countless news articles calling for gender equality in the workplace yet fund people who’d deny girls a basic education. I’m old enough to remember planes full of innocent people being blown apart on runways by these lunatics and there’s not a hope in hell they should ever be in a position where they can do so again. If you think for a second they’ll stop once they get an independent state you’re sorely mistaken Their aim is the exact same as Islamists everywhere …. the establishment of a worldwide caliphate….

Funny how you justify genocide with genocide there Bill. “Uneducated pond life”? I’ve actually looked into the subject quite a bit. The example of the north is a complete role reversal of occupier, and therefore a crap one. Poole, you’re an absolute crackpot filled with paranoia. I pity you

so many couch-terrorists here? a bit surprising…

You sir are supporting people who elected a terrorist organization, one which carries out attacks while hiding in hospitals and schools. One which would rather use billions of aid money to build tunnels to attack civilians rather than feed it’s own people.One which despite countless opportunities to negotiate peace refuses to. One which receives arms and support from regimes that support terrorism around the world, terrorists that have slaughtered people on the streets on European cities. This is what you openly support, are proud to support yet the second anyone speaks against it they’re “paranoid” or a “crackpot”. I only hope that you never find yourself face to face with one of these lunatics because believe you me all your support won’t matter a damn. You are the very definition of a “useful idiot”.

Every peace agreement has broken down because of Israel. Every attempt to elect a government had broken down because of Israel. You can hardly complain about the use of aid to provide for arms when America funds Israel for that exact reason to the time of 3/4 billion annually. None of Israels actions are justified

Stephen list the agreements/reasons that have broken down because of Israel? Its strange that you have said you disapprove of human rights abuses but seem happy to wave away hamas funnelling humanitarian aid money to pay for weaponry. Its almost as if you agree with/ condone/ approve of the actions of hamas?

http://www.unwatch.org/un-to-adopt-20-resolutions-against-israel-3-on-rest-of-the-world/

Quick Google search on Israels attitude towards Palestine when voting in the UN gives you a snapshot. I don’t condone or support Hamas. You just ask that in an attempt to polarise. Simplistic of you

Stephen, that list isn’t the peace agreements you mentioned. Not attempting to polarise, just trying to highlight your moral relativism. You might also take time to consider the disproportionate focus on Israel ( particularly the shining lights of human rights wagging their fingers therein)- i had planned on sharing this information, so thank you for saving me the trouble.

I condone Hamas. Painfully its the only army Palestine has. Conviction is a luxury of tyrants and sideliners. A sad fact about wars like this is that the good guys have to do terrible things. No where near as terrible as what the bad guys do but terrible none the less.

@Poole Hyde: Hamas to the best of my knowledge have never bombed Europe, what’s your source for this somewhat outlandish claim or are you lumping all Islamists under the same umbrella so as to discredit them? It is interesting to note how you think the population of Gaza should all be punished for daring to elect what Israel deemed the wrong government, the same kind of logic that is used to justify a terrorist attack.

@stephen , besides the WW2 genocide not sure wh as the other you speak of, because it can’t be the Palestinian Arabs because their population has multiplies since 1945 not dwindled (when Gaza was Egyptian terrorism the population was aout 50k it’s now well over a million probably nearer to 2 million) similarly the west bank (formally Jordanian terrority) although we can’t say the same about the Jews in Arab countries which has dwindled almost nothing!

You want to stick to dictionary definitions of words Bill? Look up “terrorism”. Israel fits it perfectly

UN resolution 242 calls for Israel to shrink to its 67 borders
At present Israel is the size of Munster 67 border would make it the size of Cork
In other words the end of Israel

@Stephen Todd:
And like Ireland gives out welfare cheques and free medical to Jihadis without question.

Ah well then, that justifies everything Israel does Patrick? Logic need not apply

No what justifies Israel’s actions are the countless terrorist attacks against it’s people. The countless innocent people blown apart by fanatics on busses, aeroplanes and cafes. Invasion attempt after invasion attempt, thousands of rockets fired into civilian areas, people being stabbed , shot and blown apart in markets. That’s what justifies Israels actions. When it happens in the west on a much smaller scale there are calls for walls to be built, borders to be secured and people to be deported, offending nations to be bombed and governments to be over thrown yet when Israel does a fraction of those things it’s evil incarnate. Israel houses, provides jobs, welfare, and even seats in government for the people it’s accused of trying to genocide despite attack after attack and yet the left attack it while defending the very “state” that those people are fleeing. Talk about a case of cognitive dissonance….

You call me a useful idiot because I’ve left you with no leg to stand on. The argument about Israel “defending itself” is watery to say the least. A beacon of democracy

In that region Stephen it’s the ONLY democracy…

That old chestnut eh. Palestinians elected a government in 2006 which wasn’t recognised by Israel because it wasn’t the result they wanted

How many elections have been held since Stephen? Actually, what happened that hamas suspended democracy in Gaza? Whats the situation in the West Bank/ Judea Samaria? Just another moral relativist it seems…

@Poole Hyde: I love it when people pull out ‘it’s the only democracy’ line. A nation of only 51% Jews(according to the land they lay claim to) in a state they call a ‘Jewish State’ and a ‘nation just for Jews’. How democratic of them.

@Guybrush Threepwood:
All the surrounding states are Sharia Law states allowing for no others as equals.
And most all of these are in defiance of the UN by rejecting the democratic state of Israel’s right to exist.
The following states have never recognized and/or had foreign relations with Israel:

Afghanistan
Algeria
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Comoros
Djibouti
Indonesia
Iraq
Kuwait
Lebanon
Libya
Malaysia
North Korea
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
http://brilliantmaps.com/israel-foreign-relations/

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: “The following states have never recognized and/or had foreign relations with Israel”

Good on them. You might want to add Sweden to that list very soon. Speaking as someone who lived in Nahariya for almost 2 years in the early 80s peacekeeping with the UN and saw the Israeli invasion of Lebanon and its aftermath first hand it’s very entertaining to see an Israeli apologist to use the term ‘in defiance of the UN’ as an argument for Israeli relations.

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: Fcuking hell Patrick it’s obvious yer a Jew so DON’T deny it, you spend your WHOLE time defending the Terrorist Illegal Settlement of European Jews i.e Israel, can i ask you have YOU ever been there ?

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: So you’re saying someone who hates Black people or Asian people aren’t as bad as someone who hates Jews?

All hate is equal man.

Nether am I Jewish, Israeli, or even paid by the Israeli embassy (unfortunately ) just a very long observer of the Jew/Arab situation since the early 1960s

@Bill Madden: That’s a very long time to be wearing your brain inside out.

@Bill Madden: Liar liar pant on fire, you and Patrick are Jews of the most despicable kind i.e ZIONISTS

I wonder how they’ll celebrate when they’re putting out the white phosphorus on their children’s backs.

Probably the most disgusting comment I’ve ever read here

@Poole Hyde: That’s a vile but alarmingly true statement – The Terror State Of Israel has committed heinous crimes against innocent men women and children but no world leader DARES criticize them because of Zionist Power

@Keith Mitchell: It’s doesn’t feel nice when it’s you that’s burning does it!?

@Brendan McGill: Don’t be coming on the Journal talking sense. The Jews cornered off that one ages ago so as you can’t say boo about them with out being called that.

You’re really hung up on this Killian. What is it you want to say about the Jews?

@Emeralds: That any time something negative is said about them they start wailing on about it being racism or someone like you comes along and insinuates as such.

So say something negative about Jews and people think you’re an anti-semite?

Yes, that’s how it’s supposed to work. I’m not insinuating anything, I’m saying it outright

that’s why extremists call hearts bleeding ‘useful idiots’

@Emeralds: No, how it’s supposed to work is you put on your big boy pants to deserve a seat at the table and don’t cry racism because the Goy doesn’t agree with you.

What you’re describing sounds a like like Communist Russia or Nazi Germany.

@Killian O’Hara: You are.Good day to you!

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: Patrick there’s a great documentary online called “Defamation” , you should really check it out. It’s actually about you!

@Patrick J O’Connor I’m getting really sick of people like you labeling anyone who is against the war mongering, land grabbing policies of the Israeli regime as ‘Jew haters’. Many Jewish people within the state of Israel are against the same right wing policies of Netanyahu and would like to see a two state solution. By your logic, that means they hate themselves. Can you not get it through your thick head that it’s possible to be anti Israeli regime and NOT anti semite??

@Marvin Dorfler: I would urge people like yourself not to engage with the apologists for Israeli atrocities on this site. It only gives them oxygen for their state sponsored defenses.

The MOST effective way to express your disgust for the barbaric entity that is Israel, is by B.D.S.

B.D.S, Boycott,Divestment,Sanctions – check out this peaceful movement on Google. The tactics are peaceful but effective; similar to those used against Apartheid South Africa. Follow the methods they propose.
No amount of international censure or condemnation will be heeded by the Israelis – ever…

Peter: BDS end goal is the removal/ destruction of Israel. Omar Barghouti, founding member, has categorically stated that this is his objective. This one state objective is cynical, unrealistic, and profoundly anti-jewish. Unsurprisingly, links between BDS support funding and Hamas have been highlighted several times. You so yourself no favours telling by half truths, and window dressing actual anti-semitism.

https://engageonline.wordpress.com/2016/06/01/why-bds-is-antisemitic-david-hirsh/

@Marvin Dorfler: Hasbara Fellowships
Curb the instinct to respond directly or use the terminology of the accuser . For example do not write an op-ed about how Israel is not an apartheid state. Instead , write about how Israel IS a democracy. Do not articulate the specific accusation that is being responded to, and do not repeat negative terminology.
- Instead of “occupied” territories → disputed
- Instead of “wall” → security fence
- Instead of “settlements” → neighborhoods
- Instead of “Israeli – Palestinian conflict” → Arab – Israeli conflict
- Instead of “1967 borders” → 1949 armistice lines
- Instead of “2nd Lebanon War” → Hezbollah War
- Instead of “Hamas,” “Hezbollah” → “Iranian – backed Hamas,”Iranian – backed Hezbollah.”
- Never use the words “apartheid” or “occupation.” Respond to the accusation without repeating the term, then bridge as quickly as possible to your message.
- Distinguish between Palestinians (Arab living in autonomous Palestinian governed territories) and Israeli Arabs (Arabs living in Israel with citizenship and equal rights).

@Charlie Wrex: The Canadian govt. condemns BDS and I’m delighted the Bank of Ir. has closed out their account. You can be sure bank officials knew what the money was being used for terror support.

@Marvin Dorfler: and I’m sick of unread idiots like you who can’t prove your idiotic accusations of terror by Israel against people who are expressing their barbarism in daily acts of terror all over the globe.
See my other post on huge humanitarian aid to terrorist Palestinians vs other more deserving and genuinely needy states.

@Patrick J O’Connor Dropping white phosphorus on densely populated areas and blowing up children who were playing on a beach is proof enough of terrorism by the Israeli state to me. You still haven’t addressed my point about your idiotic comparison between being anti israeli government and being a ‘jew hater’ as you put it. Can u you not see the stupidity in this comparison you make?? I’m also outraged by rocket attacks and suicide bombings that come from the Palestinian side. Does that make me a Muslim hater also? You moron.