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WHAT’S THE STORY?
1. #TRAGIC: The funeral has taken place of Larry and Martina Hayes, victims of last Friday’s Tunisia beach terrorist attack, in Athlone.
2. #APPEAL: Gardaí are appealing for witnesses to a fatal collision on Dublin’s quays, which saw a motorcyclist lose his life, to contact them.
3. #BOSTON: Police have released computer-generated images of a four-year-old girl who was found dead in a plastic bag in the city’s harbour last week in a bid to identify her.
4. #NICE LITTLE EARNER: An Irish woman has just sold her ‘Hailo for cleaners’ start-up for €32 million.
5. #SEARCH: The search for missing Willie Maughan and Anna Varslavane has moved to the banks of a river on the Dublin-Meath border. The couple have not been seen since April.
6. #JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE: These paddlers went out searching for great white sharks and came back with this footage.
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Third world health service. Third world housing crisis. You can add a third world airport to that now
@James Fox: First world tax rates though.
@David Corrigan: better services (like the nordics) pay taxes (higher rate like the nordics).
@James Fox: Ha ha, only in Dublin. Try Shannon or any other airport outside the Pale.
@Ciaran: total misconception and constantly replayed time and again. When you sum it all up the take home pay for the same salary in Sweden vs Ireland the difference is marginal. Better management of an economy over a longer period of time.
@John Harkin: Don’t be telling the truth here. It’s a no no
@John Harkin: show me the proof?
@James Fox: You have obviously never even visited a 3rd world country.
@James Fox: The aul “third world” chestnut. Once they sort out the queues you should book yourself on a flight to a third world country and check out the services.
@Ciaran: yes Ciara we just need to pay more tax to sort out this country..I’m gonna go holiday in my in laws lakeside summer house soon in Sweden..don’t know how they and a large portion of the people afford a summer house with such high taxes..you haven’t a clue lad
@Ciaran: Your innocence is breathtaking. You want them to increase taxes even though they have proven time and time again that they can’t manage the taxes they already receive?
Good idea mate. Good bloody idea.
@John Harkin: agreed – lived and worked in Sweden and have experienced both – I could write a whole blog on this nonsense – Ireland is outdated for no matter how you wanna slice and dice numbers ireland is not a low tax place except for corporations – but all the major Govt departments and public services are stuffed with 1980s civil service structures that need overhaul – they can manage the revenue for 5 million people pretty efficiently to take in the money – but then they use it to run the 1980s administration paper shuffles that take 16 weeks to issue a new passport – thianone is just the latest example -
@David Corrigan: David – you’re talking to the minister of transport Eamon Ryan – it’s his troll account ! We could fly on lettuce leaves you know
@James Lough: I didn’t know he could type.
@John Harkin: The difference could be put down to the tax credit which most people I’d imagine don’t even understand. The personal & paye tax credits is equivalent to a 0% tax rate on the first €16,500 of your income (20%*16500=3300). Any government really should front end that system before an election. When Eddie Hobbs suggested tidying it up, they practically called him an alchemist.
@James Fox: utter nonsense, nothing like a 3rd world country whatsoever
@Frankie J: So you are delighted about the quality of the services we get then Frankie?
@Sal Paradise: exactly, a trip to Cuba might open ones eyes to a third world country.
@Frankie J: So you are quite happy with our health service. You think people are being treated in a timely manner when they attention A&E depts. That there’s no problem accessing a consultant should you need it. You have no problem getting the treatment you need when needed. There are over 900000 on waiting lists how may have and will die before the ever see a consultant. Our mental health,disability, children services are national disgrace. The children’s hospital an unmitigated and expensive disaster. No your absolutely correct. Its not like a 3rd world country its a bloody lot worse.
@sean o’dhubhghaill: The 3rd world comparison is an analogy and accurate enough within our expectations.
So he’s not wrong
@David Corrigan: have you ever been in a 3rd world country?
@Franny Ando: take a trip to a 3rd world country and report back before you type any more nonsense.
@Frankie J: No. Why?
@James Fox: I take it you never lived in a 3rd world country
@Sean O Callaghan: Bristol and Gatwick?
@Frankie J: Maybe answer my queries rather than type your repetitive nonsense.
@James Fox: A lot of third world country experts here overlooking one single fact. Ireland was a 3rd world country when the term had meaning as was Sweden, Finland, Switzerland and Austria to name but a few rich countries.
The term simply meant non-aligned to either US or Soviets during the cold war. A lot of 3rd world countries happened to be very poor hence the derogatory use in this thread.
@James Fox: we are a laughing stock for the whole world. Even Lad Bible is reporting on this embarrassment of a country.
@David Corrigan: they are managing the taxes bud….They are giving them away in large portions to people who won’t or don’t want to work.
@Frankie J: delighted you got through the queue so fast! You use the VIP Dublin Airport Services door by any chance?
@James Fox: Why not Offer 3 months contracts to the people who were made Redundant as they hav the Skills and Experience to Splve an immediate Crisis
@Michael Mcgregor: It is COMPLETELY inaccurate.
@James Fox: Ireland is a third world country.
“At this stage we estimate over 1,000 passengers were impacted by the lengthy queues at Dublin Airport”…… No! Everyone who was there queueing in that chaos was impacted negatively, over 1000 passengers missed their flights. What kind of thinking or mindset does it take to believe that ONLY those who missed their flights were “impacted”?
@Míchael Búrké: very well put. You are 100% right in your view there. And everyone also include the DAA staff and airline staff who I’d say got some roasting from passengers.
@Míchael Búrké: PR bull to try and downplay the complete clusterf that the DAA are
Do not hesitate contacting small claims court for the missed flight because of the Dublins Airport disgusting miss management.
@Míchael Búrké:
********Heads must roll for this…………..*************
*********but they won’t. ***************************
Fantastic to hear the retired Airport Security Staff member explains what’s what’s on Claire Byrne Live this evening.
“ Managers ( pencil pushers as he called them) made changes to a job that they are not qualified to do themselves. They should be all trained up, it takes six weeks and you would have 300 security staff on standby to cover the peaks times.
This will all blow over and every single person involved in the decision to lay-off staff during the pandemic will still be in there jobs and non of them will be trained because if they were they may have to do a little bit of work for a change……
It’s a great little country but it’s home……….
@Míchael Búrké:
********Heads must roll for this…………..*************
*********but they won’t. ***************************
Fantastic to hear the retired Airport Security Staff member explains what’s what’s on Claire Byrne Live this evening.
“ Managers ( pencil pushers as he called them) made changes to a job that they are not qualified to do themselves. They should be all trained up, it takes six weeks and you would have 300 security staff on standby to cover the peaks times.
This will all blow over and every single person involved in the decision to lay-off staff during the pandemic will still be in there jobs and non of them will be trained because if they were they may have to do a little bit of work for a change……
It’s a great little country but it’s home………
@Míchael Búrké:
********Heads must roll for this…………..*************
*********but they won’t. ***************************
Fantastic to hear the retired Airport Security Staff member explains what’s what’s on Claire Byrne Live this evening.
“ Managers ( pencil pushers as he called them) made changes to a job that they are not qualified to do themselves. They should be all trained up, it takes six weeks and you would have 300 security staff on standby to cover the peaks times.
This will all blow over and every single person involved in the decision to lay-off staff during the pandemic will still be in there jobs and non of them will be trained because if they were they may have to do a little bit of work for a change……
It’s a great little country but it’s home
@Míchael Búrké:
Heads must roll for this…………..*************
*********but they won’t. ***************************
Fantastic to hear the retired Airport Security Staff member explains what’s what’s on Claire Byrne Live this evening.
“ Managers ( pencil pushers as he called them) made changes to a job that they are not qualified to do themselves. They should be all trained up, it takes six weeks and you would have 300 security staff on standby to cover the peaks times.
This will all blow over and every single person involved in the decision to lay-off staff during the pandemic will still be in there jobs and non of them will be trained because if they were they may have to do a little bit of work for a change……
It’s a great little country but it’s home
@Míchael Búrké:
Heads must roll for this…………..*************
*********but they won’t. ***************************
Fantastic to hear the retired Airport Security Staff member explains what’s what’s on Claire Byrne Live this evening.
“ Managers ( pencil pushers as he called them) made changes to a job that they are not qualified to do themselves. They should be all trained up, it takes six weeks and you would have 300 security staff on standby to cover the peaks times.
This will all blow over and every single person involved in the decision to lay-off staff during the pandemic will still be in there jobs and non of them will be trained because if they were they may have to do a little bit of work for a change……
It’s a great little country but it’s home
This mess sums up this country at the moment. This has been going on for weeks and it’s only getting worse. Why did we have to wait for a disaster like yesterday for our elected officials to sit up and take notice ?
@Declan Doherty: Because we(myself included) sit back and just give out on social media about it. Any other countries and there would be people on the streets protesting about the state of this country
@Declan Doherty: its Eamon Ryans department….. Enough said.
@Declan Doherty: because we’ve all been happy to let FFG rule the roost for far too long. The country is a shambles. We need some fresh ideas and approaches.
@Declan Doherty: this problem is not unique to Ireland. Same issues at UK airports anZd they’ve started asking people to bring their bags the day before their flight
@Declan Doherty: because the whole public service structure is creaking at the seams for all departments and the turkeys won’t vote for Xmas so until they modernise and reform public sector and semi states like daa we will have to live thru inefficient services with pipes bursting every week – health transport housing education police there isn’t one sector they don’t need to completely reform and modernise – the staff in all these places are being poorly served too – like we spend 20bn on health but make demands on front line staff that are unreasonable because they won’t fix the administration – people need to get angry and demand reforms – almost every public service is broken or inadequate – solution is reform and modernise not hire more paper shuffling
@Dave Hammond: you can’t reform while the unions can veto any changes to work practices, any change to T&Cs, any attempt to reduce and streamline staff structures and levels. There’s a reason why a minister for health from every party across the political spectrum has failed to properly reform the service over the past 30-40 years and it’s not down to lack of trying or lack of budget. If the unions don’t like it, they’ll hold the country to ransom.
@Toon Army:
We get who we vote in
@Ian McDonald: Is this an Irish thing or an Irish political thing, sure its happening elsewhere so don’t point the finger at us… Anyone who missed their flight yesterday could not care less what is happening elsewhere only the airport they were meant to fly from. Run by the DAA who are another shambles like most others in this country… With the state of the country at the moment you wonder what skillset and credentials some of the people in charge bring to the table…
@GrumpyAulFella: too simplistic to lay blame for lack of reform at unions – no doubt there are challenges – but something like the health administrators hired 16% increase in management roles in HSE – highly paid roles on 100k level – nothing to do with union practices – simply adding layers of additional admin into an inefficient overly administrative organisation – outcome are not improving – and by the way productivity gains are part of wage agreements as are improving the organisations which unions sign up to – so you are quite wrong to say nothing can be reformed – they reformed how revenue is collected to pretty efficient levels without ‘union’ issues -
It turns out there’s a very good reason why they can’t fill security jobs. they only guarantee people 20 hours work a week. but people have to stay available for 40 hours on call for minimum wage. what we’re seeing is yet another example of what happens when you do things on the cheap.
@Miriam Kane: add to that they let huge amount of people go who were on more favourable contracts than this during covid. So effectively they are perfectly staffed numbers wise pre-covid, and staff are relatively well paid. They use covid to let loads go and then offer the same roles on lower wage and horrible conditions – the 20 hours you mention and then months later say – ‘there’s not a lot we can do when we can’t get the staff…..’
@Miriam Kane: not really true – 14.14 an hour and 30 hours guaranteed is more than the minimum wage and more hours than you indicate. Pity when people do not check but here is the current advert and job description https://ie.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=cefbb752f2d6ec42&from=serp
@Niall Ó Cofaigh: Which equates to €424 pw if you get the minimum number of hours. How would a family man/woman survive on that living in Dublin plus its not very appealing considering you must be on call 24/7.
@Niall Ó Cofaigh: You are correct! However, if you reduce the terms and conditions (hourly rate) of employment by using Covid as an excuse DAA didn’t make the position’s redundant. It could be viewed as opportunist by DAA and a cost reduction exercise as the position’s still exist.
@Niall Ó Cofaigh: when you take unsocial hours into consideration it is minimum wage. The work is back breaking and repetitive. A lot of older staff suffered back and soft tissue injury from bending down hundreds of times daily. Not a pleasant job. Give it a miss.
@Niall Ó Cofaigh: that’s inclusive of shift rate as well. Scandalous T&C’s….that is the problem. I bet retention of new staff is extremely low too..50%!!!
Dalton Philips is leaving so couldn’t care less. He came in and destroyed what was once a fantastic service and great place to work. Flew out this morning and have to say fair play to the staff that kept smiling despite everything being against them.
@Vlad Eire: and morrisons
@Vlad Eire: yeah but he has a MBA from Harvard so he must be good, shhhh here he comes, everyone listen to Mr. Philips
Not good enough, past apologies, we are laughing stock on Europe. DAA not fit for purpose. Start sacking people or replace the DAA altogheter, incompetent eejits.
@Richard Carroll:
Incredible that they don’t know passenger numbers in advance of flights departing, and plan accordingly.
@Richard Carroll: it’s a semi state. They don’t do sackings or accountability. I’d say Greencore are delighted that Phillips is about to assume the CEO role there now and he responsible for this mess at Dublin airport.
@Richard Carroll: I agree it is not good enough but why fix it as “we are the laughing stock on Europe”. Why not fix it as it should work regardless of who is watching and because it will have a negative impact on the tourism and businesses in Ireland. Takes about 4 minutes to get through security in Knock, we leave our house (40 mins away) 1.5 hours before the flight. Why cant Dublin replicate that on a larger scale?
@Richard Carroll:
Riddle me this?
@Sarah Lou: because they can’t get staff…
@Sarah Lou: yep you are right of course. We need to sort it for ourselves and not for the optics as seen by other countries. Personally I use Shannon as it’s right beside me also.
@Aidocasey: so put in place an equivalent that can get staff? It really aint rocket science!!
@Sarah Lou: Its widely reported that this is a staffing issue. There weren’t massive queues back in the peak of the summer of 2019 with 20% more traffic…… Knock had 8 scheduled departures today all spaced out. Dublin had 340ish. Increasing Dublins security infrastructure to 40 times that of Knock isnt feasable…… The main problem time at Dublin is the morning departure rush. There were 67 departures between 6-8 in Dublin this morning, 20% of total departures. A rough estimate of 150 per flight is over 10,000 people in 2hrs vs a flight here and there at Knock. Other times of the day at Dublin you can sail through security in less than 10mins, particularly in T2.
@iohanx: They know well the passenger numbers, the flights are scheduled and the seat roster should be available for each flight well ahead of the day of travel. This is nothing more than a bad run department and now the shit has hit the fan they are running around like headless chickens. I honestly feel sorry for all the staff that have to deal with this..
Thank god we have invested all our resources into Dublin Airport – it makes so much sense to have the whole country flying out of the capital when there are excellent regional airports crying out for passengers. Great planning as usual.
@Maeve O’Sullivan: ok , so are you going to drive to the west of Ireland to get a flight to Spain?, I don’t think so.
@Heisen berg1: with queues that long it is actually faster to drive from Dublin to Cork or Shannon and fly out than be stuck in Dublin.
@Heisen berg1: queue in Dublin for 4 hours with no guarantee of making your flight. Drive to Shannon (2.5hrs) and 20mins from car park to Duty Free with a guarantee of making the flight. Oh and far cheaper parking. Makes perfect sense.
@Heisen berg1: Knock and Shannon are great airports to fly out of and it may surprise you to know that a lot of people flying out of Dublin do so because it’s their only option.
@Heisen berg1:… Would I drive an extra hour to avoid a 4 hour cue? Man some people will really cut their nose off to spite their face to hold up the Dublin centric approach to governance in this country
Ireland’s not a big country, maybe we could use all of it?
@Paul Clancy: What about the cost of filling up your car to get down to Shannon in the first place? Also, most of the airlines want routes to Dublin because that’s where most visitors want to fly into. It would be great to have more flights using Cork and Shannon undoubtedly but it’s not the simple solution others are making it out to be.
@Heisen berg1: Why not? 3 hour drive followed by 1 hour in the airport as opposed to a 1 hour drive and over 3 hours in the airport?
@Heisen berg1: believe it or not many of us are not from the Dublin area but have no choice but to fly out of Dublin. Many of us would much prefer to fly out of Shannon or Cork or Knock. Wouldn’t it greatly help if there was a quota of certain routes operated by each airline if they want to operate from Dublin too? There’d be less queues at the airport, less parking spaces filled up, less traffic on the M50, more jobs spread evenly throughout the different airports and every side of the country would have a better choice and create better competition.
@Heisen berg1: maybe the people in the west of Ireland will fly out of Shannon etc if there were more flight destinations. Other counties exist outside of Dublin and funnily enough there are people in those counties that will go on holidays too.
@Heisen berg1: Most of the country are driving to Dublin for flights so what difference would it make.
@Paul Clancy: it’s the airlines that choose the routes and most foreign airlines and Tourists want to fly into the Capital…
@Heisen berg1: Why not, plenty of time we have driven to Dublin from Cork to get a flight, there are hundreds of people that fly form Dublin who would love to fly from Cork or Shannon
It’s a disaster of a company and the head’s in charge should be sacked . Shame on you It’s not just flights pepole miss hotels exc.shame on the Daa joke of a company.
@Derek Moean: Phillips is on his way to Greencore. He doesn’t give a fiddlers.
Compensation should be a minimum of international standards met by airlines.
@Peter O Donnell: It’s a fair point .If they are not refunding the passenger charges for delivering a sub par service then they make the same money whether they do a good or bad job .Why brother improving .
When you have the “we’ll learn from this and move on” parties jotting out this excuse at every scandal it provides an excuse for every authority that screws up in this country.
NEVER any accountability.
I’m at the gate now, waIting to board a flight. Contrary to what is being said though, the security screening system is working OK, more or less. The biggest problem seems to be the collapse of confidence in rhe system, causing people to arrive too early. I was talking to some people in the queue and they were there at 6.00 for a midday flight.
No sign of any suits during my one hour and forty minute journey through the departures area. I can understand that they want to avoid the wrath of customers and hard-pressed staff, but a few hours on the floor might teach them something.
@John Mulligan: one of those suits is Eamonn Ryan – nowhere to be seen, no press briefing, no tweets.
@John Mulligan: it’s Monday morning, no fans for rugby or champions league passing through. So your experience, while welcome, is of a quiet time for travelling.
@John Mulligan: Just because it is working better now, doesn’t mean there wasn’t a serious problem yesterday. 1,000 people missing flights is unacceptable, and absolutely not the fault of people “arriving too early”.
@Peter McGlynn: no point in him holding a press briefing as he’d only be talking through his @rse in any event?
@Peter McGlynn: Ryan’s too busy making sure you can’t give your granny a bag of turf!
Imagine flights at 8, 9, 10 and 11am. If passengers arrive 2 hours before their flight then the check-in etc will be busy at 6,.7, 8 and 9am. But now imagine that ALL passengers arrive at airport between 6 and 7am. You have ’4 hours worth ‘ of queueing squeezed into 1 hour. An impossible situation, so many people for the 8 and 9 flights will miss their flight. Solution? Separate queues for different time slots. 8am flightd queue here, 9am flights queue there, 10am flights queue somewhere else, so the people for the earlier flights get seen and processed first.
@sean o’dhubhghaill: Stop talking sense Sean….Its not allowed around these parts
@sean o’dhubhghaill: no. Just sack DAA. Get Fraport in
@sean o’dhubhghaill: what a good plan. Well done.
Front line headlines people missing holidays and important appointments but none of the daa main men will resign there’ll be no consequences no official heads will roll…..
Seen images of yesterday. 4 hour queues. Missed flights. So much for a holiday. Can’t leave the country can’t holiday here. What an absolute joke . Planned on flying out Wednesday. Safe to say that is not how I want to start my holiday. I’ll pass.
@ChadChaderson: There are thankfully other airports in the country without these issues.
It’s all very well saying they’ll cover the cost of missed flights. what about all the other costs hotels, missed concerts etc. whose going to pay for that???
That what happens when State infrastructure is run on a for profit ideological basis. Pay the workers a decent wage with proper terms and conditions and the next queues will be for the jobs.
We pay extortionate taxes, extortionate rent, we work and we can’t get a mortgage, we don’t work and we get houses given to us, our hospitals aren’t fit for purpose, our airport isn’t fit for purpose, and clearly our politicians aren’t fit for purpose, we’re robbed blind when we holiday in Ireland, is it any wonder we’re queueing up by the thousands to get out of the place for a while.
I cannot figure out why DAA did not put their security staff on PUP during the pandemic instead of making them redundant. Have they tried to explain this?
@Dick Barrett: because they saw an opportunity to slash working conditions by replacing existing staff with low paid replacement’s by a “hatchet man” imported from the UK who tried the same at Morrison’s supermarkets, eventually ran out the door!
@Paul Brierley: Ah. Thanks for the explanation. Dublin Airport staff were great before Covid and it angers me that they weren’t treated better.
@Paul Brierley: morrisons was years behind all UK retailers because of his backwards experience
So if I am reading this correctly, people arriving way too early than advised are causing these queues as well. So you could have someone in the queue 2.5 hours prior their flight as advised and someone else in front of them that has a flight 3 to 4 hours later… There should be different queues.
I’m going on a flight tomorrow at 8, I plan to be at the airport about 4, did Mr Martin have to stand in line with all the others yesterday?
@Heisen berg1: he didn’t fly out of Dublin
@Heisen berg1: one of the many TD perks Varadkar brought in when Taoiseach was that all TDs get to skip queues at irish airports. So it’s yet another problem that will never effect them.
@Rob Gale: Let’s not forget either, any TD, past or present also avails of free parking for life in at The Dail in Dublin City Centre.
The dog on the street knew that everyone this year was going to want a foreign holiday or two and numbers flying were going to jump dramatically. So the DAA sat back the last year doing absolutely nout to prepare for this, just disgraceful. DAA CEO needs to be dragged up in front of the Dail to answer why.
DAA know well in advance their capacity, number of departures, staffing etc so aircraft over and above their capacity should be diverted elsewhere for safety reasons. It’s just terrible management.
Exactly. They know well in advance how many flights were sold. They had the staff and let them go. They should compensate everyone for this ridiculous delays and queuing and stress and offer decent pay and conditions so it doesn’t keep happening this year. Those queues were so long that I wondered if the army would handle it better!
*again
You cannot completely blame DAA.
At the moment every single airport in Europe is experiencing the same delays. The main reasons for this is that they cannot get enough staff to man the positions needed for smooth Transit through the airport.
Lots of sectors in Ireland at the moment are experiencing the same issues with no staff willing to work even though I think they are available. I think if we could sort this issue out things would run much better. So while the airport is at fault there is other issues going on that are causing these problems as well.
@Ian D. Ryan: Sit down and think about this for a minute. Why do you think they can’t hire people?
I’ll give you a clue. Terms & conditions are brutal.
@Ian D. Ryan: Dublin is dying a death due to the high cost of living at every corner. Even jobs paying moderately high wages are only going to get people that either are living with their parents or sleeping in their cars. DAA staff are not going to commute from beyond the pale every morning for a €13 an hour zero hour contract.
@Ian D. Ryan: in ireland they can’t get the staff as they’re only guaranteeing the staff 20 hours work but expecting them to web available for 40 hours work at all times. Similar to zero contracts. Also they failed to check that security clearance now takes twice as long as background checks go back I think it’s 10 years instead of 5.
@Ian D. Ryan: this is simply untrue. I have flown to and from several airports in recent months and all are working normally
@Ian D. Ryan: ya can blame the DAA tho. They should’ve put staff on PUP instead of redundancy. They did so because they didn’t want them back, they wanted to replace them with new low paid staff. The CEO did the same thing with Morrison’s. So yea, the blame is entirely with the DAA.
@Lesidees: No they are not….listen or read the news….shortages all over Europe
@Ian D. Ryan: I work in a tech support department, good money and good work life balance… We recently had two jobs available which both received well over 250 applications… Please stop with the cannot get enough staff, there was no problem prior to them leaving staff go and trying to rehire on terrible wages / working hours..
@Ian D. Ryan: Frankfurt is not. Greetings from Germany
It takes one specialist on the X-ray monitor and three to four people asking very basic questions about liquids, belts, etc. For 20 lanes with 3 shifts you need 60 specialists plus 12 for holiday cover etc. Simple to organise. my guess is there’s unofficial strike action happening and no one is admitting to this because DAA are clearly incompetent. The Minister Ryan is responsible.
@David Malone: Ryan should declare an interest and given his green background should be relieved of his ministerial position for something less connected to his green party philosophy.
They gave voluntary redundancy to trained essential security staff during the Pandemic. Bad decision. Rehire the staff would e a big help. Before the Pandemic 100,000 people a day went through the Airport and could be processed. How on earth are they going to manage if they can’t handle 50,000.
Hildegard Naughton is the junior transport minister with special focus on international travel. So this is directly to do with her. She knew of the problem as it started in March. She met with Cullinane twice a week since to work it out. And what happened? It resulted in its worst case scenario unfolding. So when she’s not on claire byrne rudely talking over anyone questioning the government, she’s doing what? Coz we can clearly see it’s not her job she’s doin and that’s clear as day.
Let’s bring in another 200,000 people who will require all the State’s services for the foreseeable future and contribute nothing.
That will fix our overburdened State services.
Anyone trying to emigrate would have to just give up and stay.
If staffing is one of the issues why did the taoiseach “rule out” getting the army involved without bothering to give any explanation? Incompetent DAA plus incompetent government equals recipe for disaster.
Shocking
If you search for these jobs they’re posted as €13 ph which is €1.40 less than the current staff, and the 20 hr contracts are still in place. So despite all these talks and politicians having their day in the Dail doin speeches, there is nothing in place to change a thing. Theres a staff shortage becsuse they sacked everyone instead of putting them on PUP. They did this so when they had to refill those jobs they would do so with lower salaries. Hence todays €13ph advertised positions. The CEO did the same at Morrisons. Some actual journalism at “the journal” would be great.
There should be sackings at the management level of DAA for allowing this to happen.
Obviously this needs to be fixed but I find it so funny that the Government are coming down hard here on the DAA, solutions to be drafted up and submitted by tomorrow as 1000 people missed their flights. I assume some of this number were accommodated and have gone on their merry way so less than 1000 people inconvenienced and the DAA needs to report by tomorrow. How many people died on waiting lists in the HSE in the past year and there is no deadline to fix it….
Same problems at Gatwick, Stansted, Manchester and Bristol airports at the moment, huge queues. Airports don’t seem to have predicted the big bounce back from Covid. Coming home might be as big a problem as flying out.
@GrumpyAulFella: nope
Army In
Army In
Army In
What else are they doing but looking after the rest of the world while we seize up.
Next weekend is coming. You know what to do
No more empty apologies
If only we had more airports in the country where we could fly from.
Maybe we could fly to southern europe from Cork, US & Canada from Shannon and so on then I’m sure we could alleviate the terrible situation that has arisen in Ireland’s ONLY AIRPORT in the east coast.
@The world outside the M50: the price of petrol for the car journey from the capital to Cork or Shannon would cost more than the flight ticket and only to arrive at an airport owned and run by the same outfit, DAA, who own the problem in Dublin.
@GrumpyAulFella: hilarious, yet everyone who lives outside of dublin has to spend the fuel money…
@GrumpyAulFella: DAA don’t operate Shannon , only Cork
@Sarah Lou: you don’t want to spend money on fuel then spend money on a mortgage for a house in Dublin.
@GrumpyAulFella: There’s the problem right there – ‘the capital’ – the capital of what exactly – stop focusing everything into one area of the country – the excuse of a large population does not work when people have mobility – Cork could serve southern europe – Shannon to North America – etc. with a bit of work it could be done – WHY does everything have to be in Dublin ?
@Jonathan O’Riordan: true enough and they couldn’t be much worse than DAA.
@The world outside the M50: sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to the capital. I called it the capital because it is the capital. It’s the metropolitan and population centre of the country. Why are the main airports around Europe centred in the capital cities? Paying a ridiculous price for a house in Dublin must come with some benefits after-all, jobs, education, transport, retail, hospitality hubs. This is what happens in population centres. Dragging people out of a populous area with a major European international airport on their doorstep to drive 3hrs to somewhere else to catch a €200 return flight to Lanzarote isn’t going to work.
@GrumpyAulFella: Sorry you have lost me, do you think we are housed for free down here?? I have a mortgage, I could live in Blackrock, Howth, Malahide etc for my mortgage but I choose not to as I dont wish to bring my kids up like that. But I still stand over my comment on the paying to go to the airport. Our last trip we left the house at 1am, queued for 1.5 hours to get into the airport and just made our 7am flight. That is ridiculous.
@Sarah Lou: bring your kids up like what? The reality is that capital cities are generally served by major international airports because that’s where the demand and population is. The busiest airline route in Europe is Dublin London. Unfortunately if you don’t live in the capital city then your flight needs won’t be as well served and you may have to travel longer to get to your departure point. Same as every other country.
@GrumpyAulFella: the Dublin to London route is the busiest because they made it the busiest by limiting peoples options. It’s very much the case of all the eggs in one basket and now they are paying the price. If a census was done in the morning i think you would find that a lot of people would prefer to fly out of places other than Dublin. The demand is there to fly from Shannon, Cork and Knock but the options aren’t and as long as the DAA have the monopoly it will remain like that.
@GrumpyAulFella: But yet you expect millions from outside Dublin to make the reverse trip. When Aer Rianta was broken up to form rhe Airport Authorities, what is currently happening was brought up by many in the aviation industry, and they were ignored. The only way this can be fixed is to put all the airport authorities under one umbrella organisation, or put it under the directives of the IAA so that no airport cannot take prioritiy over the others, like the DAA currently are.
@Jonathan O’Riordan: they used to, and did the damage before it was put under it’s own authority, however it may as qell not exist as the DAA are constantly getting priority over Shannon.
@GrumpyAulFella: why spend either….several other perfect airports in the country, but DAA taking priority.
@GrumpyAulFella: there is a different between demand and options. Just because a flight from Dublin is the busiest does not mean everyone on it is a dub! The fact is the DAA basically has a monopoly on these flights, but the majority of those using it are closer to the other airports in the country. If they moved these flights to Shannon, they’ll still be full, but the DAA will not get the landing fees.
We’ve heard this all before. The DAA are unable to run the airport to an acceptable standard. I’m tired of hearing of meetings about frameworks about talks about solutions. Action time
How come state owned companies are the most inefficient in this little Island,
They let go the well trained staff and took on yellow packs and hence the mess
The ques will be out on the new runway soon.
Do take note that DAA is seeking a 88pc price increase from 2023 on airport charges in Dublin and has secured the green light to install a new paid drop-off and pick-up zone!
It comes down to greed. When times were tough during the pandemic the DAA cut staff instead of leaving them on PUP most workers in the airport are contractors from facilities companies who’s contracts were reduced by the DAA during the pandemic. This in turn had a knock on effect and many people were let go. Instead of starting a recruitment drive 18 months ago it was left till the last minute because of costs. They knew how long it would take to recruit and train and vet new members. They also knew how many people had booked holidays last year to fly this year and dud nothing about it. No management lost there jobs during the pandemic only the most important people lost there jobs. Those who actually do the work. Time for heads to role. Army should take up role of management
Am due to fly at 6.15am this Thursday (2nd June) with 2 small kids. Am dreading the airport and have no idea what time we should try and arrive :o(
Shocking stuff. Heads need to roll. Flew from Shannon to Spain on Friday. Super service. Well done Shannon Airport. People need firing in Dublin simple ass, leaving these fools in their jobs is just laughing at all of us.
@Richard Carroll: Heads roll Richard, lol. Yeah right. Sheer imcompetence in this country at the highest levels is rewarded with payrises. Imagine, all joking aside, that it was seen as an achievement, a service was renamed to reflect how absolutely poorly it worked.
No Accountability simple.
Bring in the Army!
Time for Dalton Philips to pack his bags and go
Sure he’s on his way out the door anyway to a bigger cash cow. He earned 366K in 2020 during Covid after a pay cut. What’s the point? https://t.co/N6rb4gNqNc.
Can’t wait to see what they come up with here…
These are the people who want to charge you to enter the airport. They also want to build a new runway to increase capacity. The airport capacity is 26 million or thereabouts. There are less than that going through the airport now and there’s continuing chaos. New runway, new charges = chaos into the distant future. What a joke
More then a few companies on the airport campus ruthlessly took advantage of the pandemic to make staff on higher wages leave these organisations. Hoping to replace these experienced staff with lower paid new staff.
They have now de-valued these jobs and people are not wilingl to work for the terms and conditions offered.
Pure greed and nobody to stop this immoral practice especially the government.
Sack him. No pay off, no golden handshake, incomptent yoke.
Move flights to Shannon and bus people down that can’t make their own way? The bosses just care about numbers, how many passengers fly out on a yearly basis. Nothing about the stress and worry for passengers. We are due to fly next week and this is putting a damper on things
@Brian Hunt: it’s not even about that….its about landing fees. Look at the money the DAA will lose if the common sense approach is taken and the IAA stepped in and told them to move some of these flights to Shannon or Knock. It’s not just a case of moving them if needed, otherwise, the problem will reoccur next week. The cure is the permanent rerouting of these flights and not allowing them tovaccept new ones…maybe even giving Shannon or Knock the priority that Dublin currently enjoys.
The DDA have spent years downgrading Cork and Shannon Airports. This is the result. By the way people in the South and West go on holidays too.
Never miss an opportunity to whinge about the fordiners Roger, you melt
Maybe taxing BigTech to fund the infrastructure wouldn’t have been such a bad idea after all.
The poor scouser fans…..queueing all morning to get out of the airport and all evening to get into match.
Talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!
Bring in the god damn Army, they’re already vetted and can help immensely while they get others trained and vetted, oh sorry, common sense not allowed at DAA
Their plan will probably be stuck at security and late at arrival.
They are a joke at this stage the only problem is that know one is laughing.
The heads at the DAA too focused on sqeezing every last buck out of people at the airport. The shopping, parking all designed to screw the traveler. It suits the DAA to have people arriving well in advance needing to spend hours in the airport to overcharge them for food an tat on the off chance that you get through security. I also hear on the grapevine that they are working to stymie the rail project to the airport as it will deny them the parking revenue. There is a lot rotten up there.
This is what happens when you have 90% of the flights for a country going through 1 airport.
They’ve been battling this for months and they want to devise a solution by tomorrow. If they have t devised a solution at this stage they may as well close the bloody doors. What an embarrassment
Let’s be honest what will the govt do if DAA turn up without any plan , yup nothing zilch govt just playing to electorate because no queues for them in the airport they have their own channel they go through so don’t expect to see any td past or present queueing outside for 4 hours
New terminal, and yes, open the pubs
Yes the airport situation is terrible BUT does everyone realise the suffering of disabled children is going barely commented on by the media? the HSE reorganised children’s disability services last year and instead of improving things it caused services to be removed from thousands of children? Did you know that many children who use wheelchairs are suffering in pain everyday because they’ve outgrown their wheelchairs but can’t get new ones? Thousands of children are getting sicker everyday while on years long wait lists for therapies, procedures and surgeries? The government won’t tolerate these airport delays but they will tolerate neglect of sick and disabled Irish children by the HSE. Please support the FUSS protests on June 11th. Show children that their fellow citizens do care.
Absenteeism was mentioned this morning on RTE- “the practice of regularly staying away from work or school without good reason.”
- I wonder did the match the previous evening play a part?
The worst of it all was the ground staff. Yelling at passengers like sheep. Move, move, move….. Like an American Bootcamp. No please, no politeness, no courtesy. Not to anybody. Families, kids, elderly….. Where did DAA finds those employees? Were they bouncers in some drug riddled bars in Dublin before? This filthy airport has become a national disgrace. Did you ever compare it to any other capital airport in Europe?
Check your privilege goys!
Just as a matter of interest who covers the cost of all those missed flights and accommodation?
Just had a quick look, between now and November 1st, there are 42 destinations being served from Cork, other than long haul etc, if someone can’t find a holiday destination in that choice, I give up. Twenty five mins from carpark to airside !! But don’t all come at once, we don’t want Cork turning into the disaster that is Dublin Airport.
This is happening in a number of uk airports as well and probably some european ones.
Chaos in Gatwick and Bristol over the weekend.
The words piss up and brewery spring to mind
Charlie Haughty would have kicked ass in his day, problem sorted.
We have no powerful politicians theses days.
Just “let’s have a nice polite chat” committees !!
https://www.thesun.ie/news/8870774/dublin-airport-baggage-handlers-lufthansa/
We boarded the flight after a delay of 1.5 hours. After a other hour no bagage was loaded. After another hour the copilot was sent out onto the tarmac to see if a bagage handler could be found. Another 45 min later the plane was loaded and ready to go. Then there was no pushback vehicle. Took another half until that was solved. Then our departure slot was gone. Another 25 min. Arrived in Frankfurt 4.5 h late and earned 400 Euros as per EU passenger rights :-) great
@Johannes Baader: experienced the same last Sunday.. flight was on time but ended up being delayed 2 hours when already boarded due to some problem with loading bags.. I thought they were making this up
So glad we are flying out of Cork for our holidays. You can show up, get through security and relax before your flight rather than fighting for your life. What a nightmare. Post- Covid staffing is not going well it seems….and how many who are working in that nightmare situation in Dublin are going to want to stay on as they deal with the abuse of irate travellers. No thanks.
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