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Renua says Fianna Fáil copied its policy... but it's actually the other way around

Someone should have checked.

LAST MONTH, A row broke out between Fianna Fáil and Renua after the former accused the latter of ripping off its policies.

Fianna Fáil’s Dara Calleary claimed that two Renua policies, on public procurement and small businesses, were almost identical to his own party’s proposals.

Renua deputy leader Billy Timmins insisted this was not the case but also said that other parties were welcome to take on Renua policies as their own.

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Perhaps with this in mind, Renua released a statement late on Saturday night commending Fianna Fáil for “its decision to follow our policy lead by suggesting that party election manifestos should be measured by the Irish Fiscal Council”.

However, the statement went on to get in more than one dig at Fianna Fáil:

Renua Ireland would like to stress we are pleased Fianna Fail is following our lead. Some parties might shout ‘rip off’ when it comes to the ‘borrowing’ of original policies from other parties, but we believe that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
We would though like to express our concern that this is evolving into a bit of a trend. Renua Ireland notes for example that Fianna Fail’s recent SME policy bore a remarkably close resemblance to earlier an earlier policy document produced in May.
Again whilst we are delighted to be of help to older parties when it comes to the difficult task of producing original policies Renua Ireland will not tolerate any ongoing pattern of ripping off original Renua Ireland ideas and dressing them in Fianna Fail duds.
Renua Ireland would like to remind Fianna Fail that when it comes to the issue of political copyright those who live in glasshouses should not throw stones.

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The only problem is that Fianna Fáil did not copy this Renua proposal. If anything it might be the other way around.

Fianna Fáil has in fact been proposing that the Fiscal Advisory Council (IFAC) cost manifestos and other policy proposals long before Renua.

On 27 May, the party’ finance spokesperson Michael McGrath published legislation to give IFAC more powers, saying:

Our legislation would mandate the Fiscal Council to carry out analysis on behalf of qualifying political parties in relation to the effect that manifesto proposals would in the opinion of the Fiscal Council have on the budgetary position of the State in advance of a General Election.

Renua’s proposal in this area wasn’t published until 17 August.

A policy paper entitled ‘Better Budgets and Modern Governance’ called for the powers of the Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (IFAC) to be radically expanded.

In a one-page position, Renua said IFAC should be able to cost parliamentarians’ proposals, party manifestos and any programme for government.

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Fianna Fáil got there months before Renua.

So, as you might expect, a Fianna Fáil spokesperson took a dim view of Renua’s claims. They said: “[Our] legislation is on the Dáil order paper and amounts to a lot more than a few paragraphs published in August to grab some headlines.”

And with some digs of their own, the spokesperson added:

By any yardstick Fianna Fáil has produced more legislation, more policy documents and more proposals than any other opposition grouping. We look forward to Renua’s continued ‘borrowing’ of our policies, there’s plenty on the record for them to choose from.

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    Mute Michael Farrelly
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    Feb 12th 2014, 3:32 PM

    Interesting, will America listen ?

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    Mute TheHassetthoff
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    Feb 12th 2014, 3:46 PM

    They won’t bloody stop listening!

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    Mute joe farrell
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    Feb 12th 2014, 3:52 PM

    Why didn’t they lead the way against gm foods grown here even though majority of Europeans are against it. It got through cause an abstention automatically means a yes, WHY?
    There should be more media coverage of EU decisions like this, as a member we implement the changes to n these decisions can often be far bigger than our own at home.
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/gm-corn-gets-controversial-eu-ahead-202442678.html#6gTHmUF

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    Mute White Fang
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    Feb 12th 2014, 4:39 PM

    What study determined that the ‘majority’ of Europeans are against it? I’m genuinely curious.

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    Mute Miss Filed
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    Feb 12th 2014, 4:48 PM

    It has been shown time and time again that Europeans are against it, as are Irish people. Keep it out I say.

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    Mute White Fang
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:05 PM

    How has it been shown? You have to substantiate such claims.

    I have no real opinion on the matter, myself.

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    Mute Foxys Bicycle
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:26 PM

    Nevermind EU White fang it’s being rejected by people world wide China just rejected a shipment of GM corn other country’s are against GM
    Take an hour or two to read up on this subject & Monsanto you will be shocked at the rejection it’s receiving and rightly so the stuffs not good for ye

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    Mute White Fang
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:30 PM

    I have heard bad things about Mosanto alright, Foxy. I’ve been meaning to do more research into GM foods though, before I form an opinion.

    I just don’t think the majority out there oppose it. I’d say the most are like me, and know little about it. Which is worrying.

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    Mute Foxys Bicycle
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:37 PM

    I think you found the problem and solution
    It’s up to the people to educate themselves and others about subjects like this nobody else is going to

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    Mute White Fang
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:42 PM

    True, the media doesn’t seem too interested in the subject, so I guess it’s up to each individual to source information.

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    Mute joe farrell
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    Feb 12th 2014, 6:49 PM

    Here some mate. Just a bit to get started. If you do start to look further you might notice a lot of surveys that suggest there is less concern about gms but the have the pattern of surveys that have loaded questions and with leading results, no flat out questions asked. keep an eye for that buddy.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/europeans-wary-of-gmo-foods-2137817.html

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    Feb 12th 2014, 7:04 PM

    Thanks Joe, that’s exactly what I was looking for!

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    Mute wright sean
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    Feb 12th 2014, 3:34 PM

    The EU is a million times worse than the US

    At least in the US they all speak the same language

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    Feb 12th 2014, 4:40 PM

    Wrong Sean, every day you manage to outdo yourself. Haha.

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    Mute Barry O'Brien
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    Feb 12th 2014, 5:19 PM

    What kind of clown are you?

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    Feb 12th 2014, 8:10 PM

    Sean. You really are a complete hatstand.

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    Mute conor mcguire
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    Feb 12th 2014, 3:40 PM

    The Internet is a wild animal, one minute they think they’ve got it tamed, Napster, Limewire etc

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    Mute Archer12
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    Feb 12th 2014, 4:05 PM

    Good cop bad cop same agenda.

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    Mute David Murray
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    Feb 12th 2014, 6:25 PM

    Nail on the head

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    Feb 12th 2014, 7:26 PM

    The US probably has Hollandes phone bugged already thinking he’s a terrorist. Most of us are in their eyes.

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    Mute wright sean
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    Feb 12th 2014, 6:13 PM

    Not a specy one

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    Mute Darren Burke
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    Feb 12th 2014, 6:38 PM

    Interesting contrast between this and other recent stories on the same subject.

    Derek Keating & Sean Kelly should really take note.

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