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Fishing boat off Donegal coast nearly hit by submarine

The incident happened about 14 miles off Tory Island.

A FISHING BOAT off the coast of Donegal had a close encounter with a submarine last week.

Fisherman Seán Ó Briain has described how his boat came within 200 yards of a submarine off Tory Island.

He told RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta he and others on the boat were setting crab pots 14 miles northwest of Tory Island last Thursday when they saw the submarine coming towards them, and pass just in front of them.

“Last Thursday about 11 am we were setting crab pots when we saw the submarine coming from the northwest. It went round in front of us, about 200 yards away.

We were doing a speed of about seven miles and although the general rule is that when a boat is setting pots or pulling pots other vessels are supposed to give us right of way, but not in this case – we needed to slow down to let the submarine pass.

Yesterday, Britain’s Ministry of Defence admitted that a Royal Navy submarine was responsible for dragging a trawler backwards off the Northern Ireland coast earlier this year.

Ó Briain said that they had spotted a submarine around this time last year as well. On that occasion they also needed to slow down to avoid it.

He said that they were lucky because they had daylight on both occasions and could see the submarine and change course.

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    Mute Denis Lucey
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:42 PM

    They’re keeping this incident on file, in a filing cabinet.

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    Mute Sean Buckley
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:46 PM

    just knew someone would put this up lol

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    Mute Peadar Ó Gréacháin
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:53 PM

    sinister fringe

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:13 PM

    Actually smaller vessels usually give way to larger vessels that is the law of the sea. This is not a story worth reporting.

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    Mute Ross Kiely
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:46 PM

    Law of the sea is stand on vessel from starboard side has right of way…just saying Chris

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    Mute Robert Conneely
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    Sep 9th 2015, 8:16 PM

    They were engaged in fishing Ross so they would have had right of way irregardless of the direction of approach.

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    Mute Dave Hannon
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    Sep 9th 2015, 11:42 PM

    A British military vessel in Irish waters is an illegal move.
    The irish Vessel has trumps, no discussion here.
    This act could be classed as an act if war….

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    Mute John kavanagh
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:00 PM

    Biggest shock there was that it was an Irish boat Fishing in Irish waters

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    Mute david dickson
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:27 PM

    Everybody loves their Donegal catch.

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    Mute SteveÓ
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:00 PM

    Which actually come from Chile, Thailand and the UK. I don’t even think they sell fish caught in Irish seas.

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    Mute John Fitzgerald
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    Sep 10th 2015, 11:07 PM

    my idea is on file..in a filing cabnet

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    Mute Ciara Reynold
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:52 PM

    Is this a violation of Irelands territorial waters?. Should we not have some type of deterrent to monitor and prevent this to protect our seas on those on them. The same way the country needs an air corps capable of intercepting any threats.

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    Mute Sean Buckley
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:58 PM

    Ciara there is a 12 mile territorial zone out from our coast they were outside that.We have a 200mile out area that we can claim economic rights over just incase there is oil or gas. I dont think they should be there either but nothing we can do.

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    Mute Reg
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:06 PM

    Is this a violation of Ireland’s territorial waters? No is the short answer. As pointed out by Sean they extend for 12 miles.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:09 PM

    Well I’d rather a British sub keeping an eye on waters than a Russian one. Something tells me our own sub marine fleet can’t cope with under water patrols!!!!

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    Mute Meehawwl O'Buachailla
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:11 PM

    We should arm our trawlers with undersea speakers blaring out The Wolfe Tones to jam up their sonar.

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    Mute Reg
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:13 PM

    It would be very cruel to inflict that on anyone Meehawwl.

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    Mute Jimmy Murphy
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:48 PM

    The sub could fight back with ‘Fisherman’s Blues’ by the Waterboys.

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    Mute Larry O'Ceallaigh
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:25 PM

    Have we got any sub’s?

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    Mute Ciara Reynold
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    Sep 9th 2015, 7:47 PM

    Thanks for the answers sean and reg. the territorial versus economic zones info muddied the waters a little for me.

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    Mute Rashers Tierney
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:33 PM

    By the by, in addition to endangering ships and crews carrying out their legitimate businesses of fishing and carrying cargo, these bas**rd submarines, seriously endanger marine mammals of various types. Down with them.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:11 PM

    Down with them? I have a sinking feeling thats kind of the point of them.

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    Mute HRH The Brummie
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:56 PM

    200 yards from a fishing boat is hardly a close encounter…. boat is almost stoonaty and a submarine on top of the water is about 8 knots. bit of a non story.

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    Mute Robert Conneely
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    Sep 9th 2015, 8:12 PM

    A mile is too close when you’re on a ship.

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    Mute Patrick O' Brien
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:53 PM

    On a serious note, this fishing trawler and crew were lucky this incident happened during daylight……I remember some years back a trawler was pulled under by a submarine, the nets from the trawler were wrapped around the propeller of the submarine…..I can’t say for certain if there was fatalities on that occasion.
    When subs from the UK are in our coastal waters, why don’t they surface and give way to the trawler as the Skipper said…..They are supposed to be our neighbours.!!!!

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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:39 PM
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    Sep 9th 2015, 10:59 PM

    probably because if they did they would be obvious to the Russians also running up and down the irish sea.

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    Mute Benton Oswald
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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:43 PM

    Shirley the title of this should be “fishermen see submarine in the distance and nothing happens”, shirley?

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    Mute Crocodylus Pontifex
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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:11 PM

    And it should say that the incident nearly happened 14 miles off Tory island

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    Mute Cardio Reilly
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:20 PM

    Orla Ryan wrote the article not Shirley.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:31 PM

    Her nickname is Shirley, shirley?

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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:44 PM

    Take your nuclear subs out of our water, please and thanks

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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:22 PM

    They are international waters 14 miles out though

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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:44 PM

    When will they admit to all the submarines off the south east coast? how many countless deaths could have been avoided if the English stuck to their own waters.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:59 PM

    “countless deaths” yeah if you class zero as countless?

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    Mute Ayla Tuohy
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:13 PM

    What of all ,the subs that are sighted off the coast and all the trawlers that have ‘unexplainably’ gone down? They are definitely not irish subs and in the past 20 or so years many boats have gone down. This is known about in the fishing community but not many talk about it, in fact some are officially silenced about it.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:42 PM

    Damn tories.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 5:05 PM

    Getting to like the tories, tax cuts, sorting of the benefit system and not being treated as mugs/soft touches in the whole migrant crisis, taking refugees directly from camps in the middle east.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 4:49 PM

    Not our territorial waters.

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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:46 PM

    The Spanish fishing boats are more of a threat than a British sub

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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:17 PM

    Long time no sea

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    Sep 9th 2015, 7:19 PM

    I’m sorry …. ‘fishing boat had to slow down so submarine could pass’ ? Is this what we are calling newsworthy at The Journal nowadays?

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    Mute John Lodge
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    Sep 9th 2015, 6:46 PM

    Passing 200 yards forward of a craft travelling at “seven miles” is not a near miss. The sub in the picture is not nuclear. The Russians, Americans, French, Chinese, Dutch regularly navigate international waters around Ireland, it’s not just the nasty Brits. Fishing boats are notorious for being badly maintained, ill equipped and not very well handled. The take little notice of collision regulations, often showing misleading lights and shapes. Here’s a quick Wiki on them
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Regulations_for_Preventing_Collisions_at_Sea

    The only surprise is that there aren’t more losses from the fishing fleet.

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    Mute Dave Hannon
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    Sep 9th 2015, 11:44 PM

    14 miles out is not international waters

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