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"Ireland saw her as a fallen woman - but she was my mother"

Dublin councillor Francis Timmons, who grew up in a mother and baby home in the 1970s, is calling for James Reilly to take a look at redress schemes for survivors.

A SOUTH DUBLIN county councillor, himself a survivor of a mother and baby home, is calling for children’s minister James Reilly to address the issue of adequate redress and compensation for survivors of such homes.

Francis Timmons, an independent councillor for Clondalkin, grew up in a mother and baby home in the early 1970s. He is hoping his motion at county council will be supported by all his fellow representatives.

“I have put down many motions in South Dublin, but this one is personal,” he said.

As a survivor of the Irish care system I know only too well the stigma and pain of care.
I was born to a woman that would have been regarded at the time as a fallen woman. She was my mother, Mary Timmons, and despite all the state interventions she remained my mother.

mary t Mary Timmons

I regard myself as somewhat lucky in that I had contact with her however limited and was lucky to be with her in the lead up to her death last year.

Timmons has brought the motion to county council calling for a number of initiatives to be put in place for survivors of state care, be it Magdalene Laundries or mother and baby homes.

“Many adults made decisions on when I saw my mother and how often. She wasn’t perfect, no one is, but she was and is my mother,” he says.

When a few years ago I went looking for my information I was told by The Sisters Of Charity that a massive fire had taken place and my records where destroyed.
I said I knew this was untrue and eventually through a different avenue I got my records.

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Timmons’ motion has been in the works for some time now with the support of TDs such as Catherine Murphy, Finian McGrath and Mary Lou McDonald.

He is calling for:

  • Free legal advice for survivors attending Confidential Committees investigating the legacy of state care in Ireland
  • That the issue of redress and compensation be examined
  • That the terms of reference of investigations be amended to included those who were forced apart from their (single) mothers
  • That anyone attending a committee may bring along a neutral observer
  • That a garden of remembrance be erected by state and church
  • That a joint apology be issued by state and church to all survivors.

“As a survivor the garden of remembrance is actually the most important to me to be honest,” Timmons told TheJournal.ie.

You have to remember that the final Magdalene Laundry didn’t close in Ireland until the 1990s. These were institutions that basically used people as slaves. It’s a dark and disgraceful period of time and it has to be dealt with.
As for the committees, it’s terrible to expect people to attend voluntarily who don’t have legal advice – that’s like being on trial even though it’s not a court.

Read: ‘I’ve got family at last’: Brothers born in mother and baby homes reunited after nearly 80 years

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    Mute TUAMBABIESFAMLYGROUP
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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:54 PM

    Thanks to all. We the families have 11 of our loved ones in this Pit. And stiil we wait and wait with no information despite the Government’s obligation under the ECHR. We will have our day. #truth #justice #accountabily #prosecutions #restitution for our Survivors.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:29 PM

    @TUAMBABIESFAMLYGROUP: just go and dig the site up yourselves and give these babies the burial (preferably non-Christian) they deserve.

    Absolutely no point waiting for this government or any government to give the go ahead.

    Do the job yourselves and you’ll soon see government action.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 7:18 PM

    The Nazis have nothing on these

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    Aug 25th 2019, 7:28 PM

    @peanutbutter nutter: this is a crime scene, why has this not been investigated by the Gardai ? The Catholic Church and Government in collusion to keep a cap on this for obvious reasons

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    Mute LUCY Thomas
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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:23 PM

    @peanutbutter nutter: bit of a reach there.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:31 PM

    @LUCY Thomas: its not. he’s right. The Vatican organised ratlines to get nazis out of Europe after ww2 &the deafening silence from the pope at the time &senior church figures showed clearly whose side they were on. Vatican diplomats kept the pope fully informed about the death camps &he kept his mouth firmly shut. The dead children in Tuam &elsewhere are another manifestation of the church’s total lack of morals

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    Aug 26th 2019, 9:54 AM

    @Dean Anderson: pity you weren’t around to sort hitler out Dean. Im sure you would have been first onto omaha beach. Your history of the vatican during ww2 is pretty biased.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 10:16 AM

    @Seamus Mac: Biased ? So because he stated a proven historical fact, that they aided and abetted the Nazi regime,to have a foot in both camps for their own self preservation, how is that biased,its a fact ,not a misinterpretation, its just a plain fact,the only hint of bias,is your reaction !

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:56 PM

    @Gerry Campbell: who’s they? Can you be more specific.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 7:34 PM

    The government and church doing their best to bury the past and keep it quiet.both disgusting in the way this has been dealt with

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    Aug 25th 2019, 7:31 PM

    Said it then and will say it again now, if someone found child’s bones in your back garden how quickly would you b arrested and your garden cordoned off as a crime scene….but the church and its evil sadistic workers?????????? Even in 2019!

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    Aug 26th 2019, 2:09 PM

    @Dougal67: were they all evil?

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:11 PM

    We can take to the streets of Dublin and around the country because we objected to water charges, why can’t we come together and demand a decent burial place for these precious babies.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:15 PM

    Why is the worlds press and the worlds forensic teams not descending on this site and have it on lockdown
    This should be on SKY NEWS for fs
    Over 709 babies skeletons have been found in a mass grave!!!!!

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:31 PM

    @Maurice Dodd: when were they found?

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    Aug 25th 2019, 9:56 PM

    I will never understand the objection to abortion in the early days of pregnancy when it’s all right to neglect, abuse and starve s sentient being.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:32 PM

    @Paula Mackie Senior: The twisted logic of the Catholic Church and in frocks.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 10:17 PM

    In 30 years we will look back on 2019 with horror at the child homelessness, child poverty, number of children being abused at home, number of children who have disappeared. It’s very easy to point the finger at people in the past and ignore the worst things happening in our own society right now.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 10:30 PM

    @SC: so you just want to ignore the 796 in Tuam and the 800 in Bessborough? That’s the problem with the catholic society in Ireland, just brush everything under the carpet and forget about it. The event today is trying to focus attention on it. Easy to see why they have to with such ignorant comments and opinions such as yours being posted today

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:53 AM

    @SC: But evidently not as easy as burying your head in the sand and tryin to deflect from the horrors your church and it’s evil sadistic pedophile soaked lot did on the children of this country for century’s….but carry on with your “look over there” Catholic logic!! Your lot r the sickest of the bunch….even this topic about babies throw into a pit and you still can’t show any empathy or least bit of remorse just the usual fairy in the sky bury head shite! Sick cult is finished get over it

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    Aug 26th 2019, 3:10 AM

    @Dougal67: so true, the comment shows how sick and twisted some of the brainwashed irish catholic sheep are. Compassion and empathy are unknown feelings for them

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    Aug 26th 2019, 7:25 AM

    @Dougal67: I’m an atheist.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 7:29 AM

    @Ci: Thanks, I’m a lifelong atheist and so were my parents, not a brainwashed Catholic. Where were all of you when it wasn’t fashionable to be an atheist? It’s easy to be brave now and attack the church when it’s on the ropes.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:26 PM

    Less hysterics please.
    The country’s graveyards are full of graves which were dug up as one generation followed another into the ground. Every old graveyard had bones and skulls lying in the nettles, until graveyards started being maintained by communities. Before that they were a jungle.
    Are we supposed to spend millions on this vanity project?
    Why are the children of the present expected to pay for it?

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:58 PM

    @John Lynch: you for real?

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    Aug 25th 2019, 9:34 PM

    Surely they could just have a service now and consecrate the ground. What possible use can come of trying to re inter bones from almost 100 years ago?

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    Aug 25th 2019, 10:26 PM

    @John Lynch: vanity project!!!! Get a grip on reality and show some compassion

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    Aug 26th 2019, 12:26 AM

    @John Lynch: let’s imagine that instead of being in the grounds of a religious congregation, this was in the woods, the remains would be exhumed as part of a mass grave to investigate what happened. This is not consecrated ground, no formal religious ceremonies or funerals occurred and the deaths and burial places were not properly recorded. In any other context this site would be exhumed to investigate, it’s far from a vanity project

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    Aug 26th 2019, 12:34 AM

    @John Lynch: you’re a selfish pr€€k.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:23 AM

    @John Lynch: Go back to bed and come back with a comment that makes sense

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:30 AM

    @John Lynch: so by your logic because you didn’t exist before we can treat you like you don’t exist now. And jaysus, whatever you do, don’t mention how you went from nothing to being a person. The stork will have it in for you if you do.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 2:33 AM

    @Gerard Carthy: I cannot believe what you wrote

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    Aug 26th 2019, 3:13 AM

    @John Lynch: R u that thick? It’s a f crime scene!!! If u found 700 odd babies bodies in someone back garden would u say that? Their needs to b massive investigation and forensics in and that should’ve happened long time ago, but church involved so we still wait? Would u have Cromwell street left alone also? Those babies were killed by neglect because of the way they came into the world and because of those sick beliefs the church instilled in its sadistic nuns and precuts and the brainwashed masses…

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    Aug 26th 2019, 12:34 PM

    @John Lynch: wow just wow calling this a vanity project, you are either a troll or just someone that lacks any empathy or cop on

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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:11 AM

    @Derek Durkin:
    Yes very real. The question attempts to succinct and dismissive.
    I went to a diocesan boarding school so I have first hand experience of institutional life.
    I lived in the fifties when children had dirty repaired clothes, ill-fed and and no shoes. You can see it in any school photo.
    The mortality rate for children was sky high by today’s standards until penicillin and vaccinations came.
    My grandmother lost her first four children.
    There are no published figures of admissions, births, infant deaths.
    The published information is that 800 children died and their births were recorded over a 40 year periods.
    It is reported that burials were the responsibility of the Co Council.
    How that operated we don’t know.
    Some were claimed by their families and buried in family graves , some unclaimed and buried on the grounds. It is un-imaginable that babies were dropped through a manhole into an operating septic tank.
    For one thing, Septic tanks have to be de-sludged to remove the build-up of sludge caused by anaerobic digestion of human waste.
    Human remains don’e disappear in a septic tank and would have to been re-excavated in this scenario. It’s beyond belief.

    Was the obsolete tank used as an ossuaire for remains which were left on the surface due to multiple burials in the same plots? I’ve seen something like that in clean-up of of graveyards bones and skulls being buried or placed in old tombs.
    This ‘discovery’ in the records and the fandango which has followed it will make interesting reading for proper historians.
    In conclusion, we reflect on the children who dies here, the children who grew up and lived long enough to see conditions improve , We should also reflect on the young women who gave their lives to live enclosed and work here. The mothers came and went – they stayed and it can’t have been easy.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 10:40 PM

    The Catholic Church should be prosecuted for all the crimes they have committed in this country. They should cease to exist. I can’t believe people still go to church and believe in their lies.

    The government are spineless. Leo Varadkar is completely out of touch with the people and cares more about his image than the people of Ireland.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:53 PM

    @Fr.Todd Unctious: Agree completely. Anyone who still comsiders themselves part of the catholic church needs their head examined

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:37 PM

    This is part of the war on the Catholic church.It’s a relentless assault from RTE,Irish Indelendent and Irish Times.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:38 PM

    @Robert Dungan: Long may it continue.

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:54 PM

    @Robert Dungan: let’s hope for everyone’s sake they lose the war quickly and the catholic cult lose their hold on irish society

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    Aug 26th 2019, 3:18 AM

    @Robert Dungan: How exactly? Because they raped and murdered without remorse or accountability for century’s and now their evil sadistic game is up? Let me guess your a fairy in the sky believers and u want this all to go away? You do realize it’s horse shit? And your church buried over 700 babies in a septic tank and no investigation has been launched? But your worried about the media daring to mention it in the news, your not bothered about the dead babies I see? What a vile lot yous are, thank god your lot are dwindling !

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    Aug 28th 2019, 2:23 AM

    @Ci: There wouldn’t be Irish society without the catholc church,
    See the UTV progtams the Irish colleges on the continent.
    Their mission was to preserve the language and religion of Ireland against extermination.
    In the 19c the Church contested the control of education for the reason that State control spread empire propoganda – language, religion, culture.

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    Sep 2nd 2019, 2:47 AM

    @Robert Dungan:
    The intolerant liberals. The armchair activists, They who think that pulling down religion makes them something.

    The arch hypocrites

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    Aug 25th 2019, 8:59 PM

    If the past 10 governments haven’t cared a zero about living children, why oh why would anyone be fooled to think that their waterfall of brown filth about the dead would count for anything but time wasting lies, spin, pass the buck spin, kick the can lies, spins, lies oh and can I add that we care/less lies, lies, lies. Now I’m off to look after my sociopathic self…….

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    Aug 25th 2019, 11:37 PM

    See the Journal.ie is censoring posts. What’s the bloody point of the media?

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    Aug 26th 2019, 7:00 AM

    @Teresa Ryan: MSM is to create the illusion of free speech and balanced reporting when in reality it is distorted to benefit someone or something. If you can control the media you can control what people think and believe and anyone who dares question it will be seen as a crackpot and conspiracy theorist.
    In this case for instance why isnt there reporters all over it pushing for answers, contacting the govt, the vatican, the gardai. If this was discovered in a warzone it would be investigated as genocide.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 10:12 AM

    People like Catherine Coress, Garda Mc Cabe and others are the real heroes in Ireland. RIP all these children who suffered at the antichristian hands of the Catholic Church and those who debased it’s teachings.

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    Sep 2nd 2019, 2:55 AM

    @Raymond Westlake:
    Catherine Corless. A fake historian with ambitions, If you believe that there could be sadistic cruelty look no further. She could be a prototype.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 7:25 AM

    Time to move on.. There are real problems today that need to fixed..

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    Aug 26th 2019, 4:40 PM

    @Tim McCormack29: another catholic cult apologist with no compassion

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    Aug 28th 2019, 2:35 AM

    @Ci: Willing to wound but afraid to ne identified – The
    Anonymous warriors. Where did Catholic cult come from? it has been mainstream in Europe for 1,000 -2,000 years depending on location.
    It’s an irritating point with Anti-Catholic ranters. Invent a label which proves the case.
    A touch borrowed from Gestapo and KGB. If you were accused of being an ‘enemy of th people’ you were guilty.
    Penalty,m a bullett in the head.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:15 PM

    Catherine Corless and her supporters should stop desecrating the graves of these babies and let them rest in peace. It would be an appalling act of disrespect and vandalism to dig up the burial ground as these people are demanding. Leave the burial plot alone and let Ms Corless focus her interest on something more useful.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 6:04 PM

    @Eli Fant: It’s not a burial ground, its a septic tank.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 10:35 PM

    @Harry Power: its not a septic tank.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 12:41 AM

    I’m sometimes mystified as to how I can be anymore ashamed to be Irish . But tragedies like this and the cover up that goes on and on with nobody held to account sickens me. All my life it’s been scandal. All my life it’s been shame. Who will say stop ? Who will stand up ? We’re a disgrace and a disgusting race of people. Proud to be Irish ? Never !!!

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    Aug 26th 2019, 2:02 PM

    Some of the comments on here are fair comment/ criticism & some qualify as anti catholic hate speech. Comments would be deleted of they referred to any other section of society.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 8:10 PM

    @Harry Power: It is not a septic tank. This is one of the grossly offensive lies being spread about the burial ground by Ms Corless and the victim support group who have an anti-catholic, anti-religious, anti-nun agenda. Enough of the lies please. There is no evidence whatever to support this septic tank falsehood.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 9:30 PM

    @Eli Fant: The Septic tank spin is a measure of hatred of which plenty is shown in these comments.
    The system of workhouse, orphanage, institutions for unmarried mothers was developed step by step as improvements for was there previously. There is plenty of information on that for anyone who want to know.
    There is a frenzy about this which will make interesting analysis in years to come.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 5:51 PM

    That’s what it’s all about: extracting as much money (compo) as possible from the State for the so-called survivors of baby homes. If that’s the case, all children and families who lived in this country and had to try and survive in the impoverished and socially deprived poverty striken era of the time, should be entitled to compensation too. Roll up the gravy train.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:01 AM

    Irish ? Salt of the earth ? More like filth of the earth ! For fifty years we’ve had one disgrace after another. Shameful rape and corruption and lies. What a disgusting tribe we are. What a filthy people we are. Heads bowed and off to mass on a Sunday morning. Ye knew all along ye hypocrites.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 3:20 AM

    @Is Mise Eire: When all the revelation and out in USA about priests raping children so many were Irish the papers over there called it “Irish cancer” shocking to read that absolutely shocking and who could blame them

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    Aug 26th 2019, 6:36 AM

    8m ashamed that our goverment dont care

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    Aug 26th 2019, 1:33 PM

    https://www.education.ie/en/Publications/Education-Reports/consultations-with-survivors-of-institutional-abuse-on-themes-and-issues-to-be-addressed-by-a-survivor-led-consultation-group.pdf

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/anonymising-abuse-records-expensive-archives-council-told-945683.html#.XV7syk8ZKHM.twitter

    Survivors are being denied their funds by Caranua set up to help survivors. government is going to hide all the dirty secrets by religious and state under the Irish Carpet for 75+ years shame on them we will never lean in this country.

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    Aug 26th 2019, 6:45 PM

    Sweeping it under the carpet until the Catholic Church is compleatly gone from Ireland so no redress will have to be paid by the government and church

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    Aug 26th 2019, 10:54 AM

    Apparently Gemtrails thinks this is a conspiracy too. What a patriot!

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    Sep 8th 2019, 10:55 PM

    The poverty that was Ireland now needs a scapegoat. The English who created it have the answer: It was our primitive, dark and barbarous religion

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    Aug 28th 2019, 7:11 PM

    David Shields: That is patent nonsense and grossly offensive with not a shred of truth in it.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 1:33 PM

    They were using the children for ,what they called “medical tests” experimental drug trials, this much is documentated in their own records. These programs are very lucrative.
    Even more lucrative “medical” tests , developed by the nazis in Birkenau, are euphemistically called “terminal medical experiments” – a quick way to find out if a drug is lethal , kill the “patient, then autopsy to find out what was the lethal component,
    This, i think is one possible explanation for the stonewalling cover-up.
    And , how the bon secours order could afford to set up their billion dollar hospitals.
    The cover up is so impenetrable, because the truth is so horrific.

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