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As it happened: Paris on high alert after slaughter of 129 people by 'three teams of terrorists'

One Irish person was injured in the deadliest violence to strike France since World War II.

FRENCH PRESIDENT FRANCOIS Hollande has declared a state of emergency after a night of terror in Paris, as the city was hit by a series of explosions and shootings.

The worst carnage was at a concert hall hosting a US rock band, where scores of people were held hostage and attackers ended the standoff by detonating explosive belts.

What we know so far:

  • French authorities say 129 people were killed in the six separate attacks on Friday night. Another 99 are on a critically injured list.
  • There were two suicide bombings and an explosion outside Stade de France during a soccer match between France and Germany.
  • Others were shot dead at bars and restaurants. The biggest massacre occurred at the Bataclan music venue where 80 people died.
  • The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.
  • Investigators in Paris say ‘three teams of terrorists’ coordinated the slaughter.
  • Seven attackers – all wearing suicide vests – were later reported killed.
  • Several arrests have been made in Brussels. 

The Department of Foreign Affairs has set up a phone line at 01-408-2000 for anyone worried about relatives or friends who are not yet accounted for in Paris.

Any Irish in Paris can also contact the Embassy on +33144176700.

It’s now around five hours since the last of the terror attacks in Paris.

We’ll have updates here all day at TheJournal.ie.

The attacks – targeting young concert-goers, soccer fans and Parisians enjoying a Friday night out at popular nightspots – killed at least 120 people in the deadliest violence to strike France since World War II.

President Francois Hollande condemned it as terrorism and pledged that France will stand firm against its enemies.

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After initial reports that the death toll could reach up to 160, that is now being revised down.

The Press Association is still reporting that more than 140 could have been killed. Associated Press reports ‘at least 120′ and the latest update from the Paris prosecutor’s office – shortly before – 4.30am also gave the death toll at around 120.

Reuters is reporting that the death toll at the Bataclan venue – where the Eagles of Death Metal were playing a show – could now be 87. It was previously reported as many as 120 people were dead at that location.

This is the latest from Reuters on the concert venue attack:

A Paris city hall official said four gunmen systematically slaughtered at least 87 young people attending a rock concert at the Bataclan music hall. Anti-terrorist commandos eventually launched an assault on the building. The gunmen detonated explosive belts and dozens of shocked survivors were rescued.

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This was foreign affairs minister Charlie Flanagan’s statement on the attacks, issued shortly after midnight:

“It was with deep shock and dismay that I learned of this evening’s terrible events in Paris.

“I have just spoken with France’s Ambassador to Ireland, H.E. Jean-Pierre Thébault, and conveyed to him, on behalf of the people of Ireland, deepest condolences and sympathy on this appalling tragedy.

“I told him that we stand with the people of France at this time of great difficulty and that Ireland will assist in any way possible.

“Our Embassy in Paris is on stand-by to offer assistance to any Irish people affected by these events and the staff of the Embassy are on duty and monitoring the situation closely.”

 

 

Once again, concerned families with loved ones in Paris who may be unaccounted for can call the Department of Foreign Affairs helpline any time at 01 408 2000.

Any Irish in Paris can also contact the Embassy on +33144176700.

The Department of Foreign Affairs travel advice for Irish citizens has been updated this morning – with people being told to “exercise extreme caution”.

Here’s the full advice:

“A state of emergency has been declared in Paris following multiple events on Friday evening. Citizens in Paris should exercise extreme caution and follow the instructions of the local authorities, who are advising people to stay indoors. Irish citizens in Paris should make contact to reassure their family at home as to their safety.

“Airports remain operational but Irish citizens in or travelling to France should expect additional security and possible travel disruptions. Anyone intending to travel to Paris should contact their airline or tour operator for further information.”

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This graphic shows the locations of the attacks and the death toll at each site (which could change over the coming hours):

President Barack Obama has spoken by phone to French President Francois Hollande to offer the condolences of the American people.

The White House said in a statement that Obama had reiterated the United States’ steadfast, unwavering support for the people of France, calling the nation America’s oldest ally and friend.

Obama also has reaffirmed the offer of any necessary support to the French investigation.

The White House says the two leaders have pledged to work together, and with nations around the world, to defeat the scourge of terrorism.

Friends and relatives have been using social media to search for loved ones feared to have been at the sites of the attacks. 

People have been taking to Twitter to appeal for information on loved ones believed to have been at the Bataclan concert.

“We are looking for Marie, who was at the Bataclan, we have no news from her. If you see her, please contact me #Bataclan”, the tweet below reads…

“If you have news of Christophe aka @MokeComputer he was at Bataclan tonight and we need to hear from him,” another Twitter user wrote:

Irish Facebook users have also been using the ‘Safety Check’ feature which allows anyone in Paris to mark themselves as safe…

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You can find the Safety Check here. 

Earlier in the evening, Parisians used the hashtag #portesouvertes, or “open doors,” to offer a place to stay for people who were evacuated from the sites of the attacks…

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More details coming in on the attack at the Bataclan theatre. You’ll find a separate report on that here.

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Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has canceled trips to France and Italy in the wake of the terror attacks.

The state-run IRNA news agency quoted him as saying that Iran “itself has been a victim of the scourge of terrorism” and the fight against terrorism must go on.

France was one of the world powers involved in recent negotiations with the Islamic Republic over its nuclear programme.

Hossein Jaber Ansari, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, also was quoted as saying:

“Those terrorist groups that committed the Paris crimes do not believe in ethical principles and they are not loyal to any type of divine religions — including Islam.”

British Prime Minister is set to hold a meeting of the UK’s emergency committee Cobra this morning.

Police in France are hunting for possible accomplices of the eight assailants who carried out the attacks last night.

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Here’s the latest update on that manhunt and general developments this morning, just filed by Associated Press:

French police are hunting possible accomplices of eight assailants who terrorised Paris concert-goers, cafe diners and soccer fans in this country’s deadliest peacetime attacks, a succession of explosions and shootings that cast a dark shadow over this luminous tourist destination.

Parisians who went to sleep in horror at initial news of the attacks woke Saturday to learn that at least 120 people were killed and scores wounded. World leaders joined together in sympathy and indignation, New York police increased security measures, and people around the world reached out to friends and loved ones in France.

The perpetrators remained a mystery — their nationalities, their motives, even their exact number. Suspicion turned to Islamic extremists, who are angry at France’s military operations against the Islamic State group and al-Qaida affiliates, and who targeted satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo this year and have hit Jewish and other sites in France in the past.

French President Francois Hollande convened a special security meeting Saturday morning. He vowed to be “merciless” with the nation’s foes following what he called unprecedented terrorist attacks.

In a new development for France, seven attackers died in suicide bombings, the Paris prosecutor’s office said. Another was killed by police, and prosecutor’s office spokeswoman Agnes Thibault-Lecuivre said authorities can’t rule out that other attackers are at large. Investigators are also looking for possible accomplices.

The attacks, on at least six sites, were near-simultaneous.

The Vatican has condemned “in the most radical way” the terror attacks in Paris.

The Rev. Federico Lombardi said in a statement early that the violence was “an attack on peace for all humanity”.

He said it requires “a decisive, supportive response on the part of all of us as we counter the spread of homicidal hatred in all of its forms”.

Lombardi said the Vatican was praying for the victims and the wounded “and for all the French people”.

Buildings around the world are being lit up in solidarity with the people of France.

U2 has postponed its planned concert in Paris tonight in light of the deadly attacks across the city.

The Dublin band said in a statement that it would go ahead with the concert “at an appropriate time”.

The members said they watched in shock and disbelief at the unfolding events, and were devastated by the loss of life at the Eagles of Death Metal concert.

They added:

“We hope and pray that all of our fans in Paris are safe.”

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has said it’s the “blackest of black days”.

Speaking on Morning Ireland, the Taoiseach said his thoughts and sympathies were with the French people.

For now the immediate priority is to find out how the attacks were planned and coordinated, Kenny said.

Stephen Carroll, an Irish reporter with France 24, has been speaking to Morning Ireland about his experience in Paris last night.

He was at a comedy gig when news of the attacks began to come in, he said.

Carroll later went down to the scene at the Bataclan…

French Ambassador to Ireland Jean-Pierre Thébault told Morning Ireland he had received a phonecall from President Michael D. Higgins late last night.

Higgins had called to express “his very sad feelings” and those of the people of Ireland, he said.

Thébault said it was a very strong sign of the massive support for the French people from the people of Ireland.

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Angela Merkel has said she will meet with her ministers to discuss the Paris attacks. The German Chancellor pledged to “do everything” her country could to help France fight against terrorists.

We will do everything to help in the hunt for the perpetrators and instigators, and to carry out the fight together against these terrorists.

The latest death toll – as reported by Reuters citing French officials – is now at 128.

The critically injured list has reached 99 people, with another 80 reported injured.

Who is responsible?

That’s the question in Paris, right now.

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Unusually, no group has taken responsibility for the attacks yet.

Reports from the city indicate that the acts of terror were carried out by at least eight militants, all wearing suicide vests.

The suspects so far include ISIS and al Qaeda. Security experts are saying that the coordinated attacks show a level of sophistication not seen since the 2008 attacks in Mumbai, India. During that horrific day, 166 people died in multiple sites.

In fact, yesterday’s reign of terror may have been too sophisticated for a group such as ISIS to have carried it out.

There is also the possibility that the atrocity was the work of a group of people in France working independently of any global terror group.

This video is getting shared a lot today. It shows defiant French people singing La Marseillaise as they leave the Stade de France, the site of two suicide bombs during a friendly match between France and Germany.

Flights between Ireland and Paris ARE operating today but Aer Lingus are offering full refunds to people who do not wish to travel.

Meanwhile, the Department of Foreign Affairs has urged Irish citizens in Paris to exercise extreme caution and to follow the instructions of local officials.

More details on travel and transport arrangements can be found here.

We’ve all heard and read reports of ‘carnage’ at the Bataclan last night but a picture is worth a thousand words…

A couple comfort each other outside the venue:

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A survivor makes an important phone call as she walks away from the venue:

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Investigators inspect a lifeless body outside the Bataclan:

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Some more detail on Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s comments to Morning Ireland earlier…

“I was reading some material when I saw the newsflash, the same as citizens all around the world,” he told host Cathal Mac Coille

“It’s the blackest of black days for Paris, for France and its citizens and through them on, the citizens of the free world.”

He said it was an “appalling and horrendous attack on the free world”.

“Obviously this was coordinated, at six different locations. 120 people dead, 200 injured.”

“My thoughts and sympathies are with the bereaved, the French people. The second time in ten months… I recall specifically walking down the streets of Paris with all the leaders of the European Union and other countries linked arm in arm in solidarity and against evil which is what this is.”

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The Taoiseach said authorities in France were trying to determine who was responsible, and how the attacks were planned and coordinated.

He noted that some 200 world delegations were due in the city at the end of the month for the COP21 Paris climate conference, but stressed that the priority was to express the sympathies of the world to the French people.

“We hope and pray that those others who planned this will be brought to justice in the shortest possible time.”

Sky News has been speaking to a number of survivors to the attacks across the city through translators.

One man who was at the Bataclan told the broadcaster that the concert had started about 30 minutes before the attack started.

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“We heard firecracker noises and we turned around and saw two young people – well we were a bit far away – with machine guns firing into the crowd.

So we all laid on the ground. There was panic, screams, shots continued to be fired. At the right of the stage, a door opened and we all rushed there.

“Stuck there. It was leading to a staircase. We got stuck in a staircase for five to 10 minutes.

“People were trying to force some doors open but they only led to dressing rooms and green rooms so it didn’t lead to anything.

“Someone managed to open a door that led to the roof. We got up to the rooftop. We waited for a while and there was a man who had an apartment with a window that opened onto a rooftop. He opened the window and let us into his apartment. We stayed the whole time at his place.

“We could hear gunshots, explosions, screams. We didn’t know what was going on really.”

You have, no doubt, seen this image countless times since last night.

DailyEdge.ie writes: One artist’s poignant response to the tragedy has struck a chord with many. Jean Jullien, a French graphic designer based in London, shared a powerful image entitled Peace For Paris on his Instagram last night.

The moving twist on the peace icon has resonated with the masses – Boing Boing has even hailed it as “the internet’s official response” to the atrocities.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has confirmed it is providing assistance on one injured Irish citizen in Paris.

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Another witness spoke to Sky News about how his neighbourhood restaurants were hit in the wave of attacks.

“I heard some noise when I was at the bistro which is where I work. I got out and started running. I was looking for where the sound was coming from.

I figured out it was coming from… I arrived at the scene and there were lots of dead bodies on the ground. Lots of dead bodies.

“At that moment, you can’t tell if this is real or fiction, a movie. Whatever the case, a lot of people are dead.”

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President Francois Hollande has said that the attacks last night were “an act of war” in a televised address this morning.

He blamed the Islamic State group for the terrorist attacks.

A great horror…

During his speech this morning, Hollande announced that France will hold three days of mourning. 

He said that last night’s atrocities were planned carefully from outside France with coordination inside the country.

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President Hollande also put the death toll at 127.

He told his citizens that France is strong and that she will always win against tyranny.

In blaming the so-called Islamic State group, he referred to them as the Daech terrorist army.

More from President Hollande’s defiant address this morning: 

“We’re protecting the citizens and the country in this state of emergency. I pay homage to the country’s forces who fought the terrorists yesterday.

“Everyone has given the utmost. Everyone will put in the maximum effort in the coming days. France was attacked in a cowardly way, violently.

“France will be unbreakable in the face of these attacks.  All possible measures will be taken.

We will work alongside our allies to fight this terrorist menace in this most serious, unhappy and uncertain time in this country.

“I call for unity, courage and I will address the parliament, united at Versailles on Monday, to work out how to battle this.

France is strong and even if she is wounded, she will get up always and nothing can hold her down even if we are feeling the grief now.

“France is solid. She is active. She is vigilant. And she will triumph.

My dear compatriots, we will defend ourselves. It is our country – and more than that. It is about humanity.

“Everyone must remember their unity. Long live France.”

Live footage on rolling news stations are showing small crowds gathering around restaurants where people were killed last night.

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Police have not cordoned off the area. People are able to walk close to the buildings where militants opened fire last night.

The scenes are quiet with Sky News reporting that there are queues in the area of people willing to give blood.

Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin will say a Mass at St Mary’s Pro Cathedral this morning at 11am to remember the victims of last night’s tragedies.

In a statement, he warned about the dangers of fundamentalism and said the events were an example of what happens when religion is distorted for ideological reasons.

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The Islamic State group, after being blamed by French president Francois Hollande, admits it was behind last night’s attacks which left 127 people dead in Paris.

Meanwhile, Russia has spoken with its Foreign Minister saying the attacks “justify” a stronger fight against radical jihadists in Syria.

Islamic State has said that France will remain a ‘top target’ as long as continues its current policies.

It said it carefully studied the locations for the attacks.

The statement they issued is in French but we’re hoping to have an English translation soon.

In a separate development, a terminal at Gatwick Airport has been evacuated because of a suspect package.

Syria’s embattled president Bashar al-Assad has come out to condemn Friday’s attacks, speaking to Lebanese TV.

He said:

What France suffered from savage terror is what the Syrian people have been enduring for over five years.

We mentioned earlier people were queuing up to give blood. Here’s photographic evidence of that.

Here’s more from that statement from Islamic State in which they say France continues to be a target:

“Eight brothers carrying explosive belts and guns targeted areas in the heart of the French capital that were specifically chosen in advance: the Stade de France during a match against Germany which that imbecile François Hollande was attending; the Bataclan where hundreds of idolaters were together in a party of perversity as well as other targets in the 10th, 11th and 18th arrondissement…”

France and those who follow its path must know that they remain the principal targets of the Islamic State.

(This is the statement, in French)

A timeline of terror…

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We’ve compiled a quick look at exactly how events unfolded last night from 9.25pm local time.

Read it, in full, here

Le Monde has published an extremely distressing video, taken by one of its journalists, of the back door of the Bataclan as concertgoers tried to escape the four terrorists who had opened fire on the crowd.

A man and a woman can be seen dangling from second and third storey windows, while there are a number of bodies lying outside the entrance.

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People can be seen dragging injured people away from the deadly scene, while others hobble away from the area.

Gunshots can be heard continuously in the background, as well as shouts from a man looking for somebody called Oscar.

There is a lot of talk right now about whether or not Islamic State is responsible – or if they are merely ‘taking credit’.

The Guardian has spotted what it calls a ‘key mistake’ in the statement.

The statement mentions an attack in the 18th district but there was no attack there. The Stade du France is in the Saint-Denis area.

According to the newspaper, “It is possible the group has mixed these places up, although it does mention that attack earlier in the sentence.”

BREAKING 

A man was arrested in Germany last week and there are now thought to be clear links between him and the Paris attacks.

Here is what AFP has to say on the matter:

Bavaria’s state premier Horst Seehofer said that there was “reason to believe” that a man arrested last week with several weapons in southern Germany was linked to attackers who killed more than 128 people in Paris.

“There is reason to believe that this is possibly linked” to the attacks, Seehofer told a party conference.

Police had confirmed the arrest on 5 November during a routine check on a motorway, saying “many machine guns, revolvers and explosives” were found in the suspect’s vehicle.

Meanwhile, David Cameron has told the UK that it must be “prepared for a number of British casualties”.

In an extremely strongly worded statement, he called the “sickening” terrorist attacks the worst acts of violence in Paris since WWII.

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Meanwhile, the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ireland has said that they are providing help to one Irish person injured in the attacks. They have been give no further indications that there were any more Irish citizens caught up in the attacks.

U2′s Bono has been chatting to Dave Fanning on 2fm about cancelling their two imminent Paris gigs.

He said their “first thoughts are with Eagles (of Death Metal) fans”.

The majority of victims last night are music fans…this is the first direct hit on music that we’ve had in this so-called war on terror… Whatever its called… It’s very upsetting… These are our people.

The band had been tweeting from Paris before the tragic events unfolded.

Some poignant shots from outside the French Embassy in Dublin this morning.

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Police in Paris have asked people not to spread incorrect information. This comes after rumours of a car chase and gunshots in Bagnolet were spread across social media.

There was no truth to the rumours.

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Our columnist Tom Clonan warns that more attacks in Paris could be imminent. He writes:

The attacks were also carefully timed to diffuse and dilute the French security response. To allow a greater amount of time in the ‘kill zone’. Hence the unusually high death toll. To kill so many people, so deliberately, in such a short time speaks of a level of determination and training associated with a terrorist organisation growing in strength and confidence.

As a consequence, this will not be the last such attack in France or elsewhere in the EU.

Islamic State and their affiliates have shown a fast learning curve in mounting such attacks. They will see this operation in Paris as a stellar success and will be emboldened to repeat the exercise. It will also encourage copy-cat attacks elsewhere.

Ireland is among those states that needs to sit up and take notice of the lessons learned by all sides in Friday’s horrific killings.  Terrorism is here to stay.

Read his column in full here

This man appeared at the Bataclan this afternoon on his bike. He had a piano with him, played a rendition of John Lennon’s Imagine and left.

Let’s return to the statement David Cameron gave to British television earlier. It can easily be labelled as ‘fighting talk’.

They also not-so-subtly suggest a culture divide between the victims and the terrorists.

Here are his words, in full: 

“The events in Paris are the worst act of violence in France since the Second World War. The worst terrorist attack in Europe for a decade. A horrifying and sickening attack.

Our hearts go out to the French people, and to all those who lost loved ones. Today the British and French people stand together, as we have so often before in our history when confronted by evil.

“Shocked, but resolute. In sorrow, but unbowed. My message to the French people is simple: Nous sommes solidaires avec vous. Nous sommes tous ensemble. We stand with you. United.

While the full picture of what happened is still emerging, we know that there were multiple terror incidents across Paris and over 120 people are feared dead with many more injured.

“We must be prepared for a number of British casualties, and we are doing all we can to help those caught up in the attack.

These were innocent victims enjoying a Friday night out with friends and family, no doubt at the end of a hard week.

“They were not seeking to harm anyone. They were simply going about their way of life – our way of life.

And they were killed and injured by brutal, callous murderers who want to destroy everything our two countries stand for. Peace. Tolerance. Liberty. But we will not let them.

“We will redouble our efforts to wipe out this poisonous extremist ideology and, together with the French and our allies around the world, stand up for all we believe in.

“I have just chaired a meeting of COBR to review the security situation here in the UK. The threat level is already at severe, which means an attack is highly likely, and will remain so.

“Our police and intelligence agencies work round the clock to do all they can to keep us safe. Ever since the co-ordinated firearms attacks in Mumbai in 2008, we have all been working together to ensure we could respond to such an attack.

This summer police and other emergency services carried out a major exercise to test our response for multiple firearms attacks. And in light of last night’s attacks, we will of course review our plans and make sure we learn any appropriate lessons.

“It is clear that the threat from ISIL is evolving. Last night’s attack suggests a new degree of planning and coordination and a greater ambition for mass casualty attacks.

“And we must recognise that however strong we are, however much we prepare, we in the UK face the same threat. That’s why we continue to encourage the public to remain vigilant.

“And we will do all we can to support our police and intelligence agencies with the resources and the capabilities they need.

The terrorist aim is clear. It is to divide us and to destroy our way of life. So more than ever we must come together and stand united. And carry on with the way of life that we love, and that we know, and that will never be moved off.

“I hope to speak to President Hollande later today and I’ll make clear that we will do whatever we can to help.

Your values are our values. Your pain is our pain. Your fight is our fight. And together, we will defeat these terrorists.

The Sydney Opera House is the latest iconic landmark to turn blue, white and red in solidarity with Paris.

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Identifying victims is a slow task at the moment as the focus was on getting survivors from the Bataclan to hospital last night.

Many bodies remained in the venue overnight.

French media outlet Libération also says that many of those who were at the concert lost wallets and IDs or left them in bags and coats.

The Eiffel Tower turns off its lights every morning at 1am. But overnight, other landmark buildings across the world turned theirs on.

The Eiffel Tower and other attractions in France, including Disneyland Paris, are closed today.

It is reportedly the first time EuroDisney has closed for a day since it opened its magical gates in 1992.

A statement on its website reads:

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More on the closure of the Eiffel Tower.

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Management has told AFP it will remain closed “indefinitely” after the attacks.

There was a lot of chat and criticism last night about a tweet Wexford TD Mick Wallace sent from his account.

He defended the remarks on this afternoon, saying he does not condone terrorism.

“I don’t say things lightly. I feel very strongly about [the issue],” he told RTÉ’s Saturday with Claire Byrne show.

Wallace said he was shocked by last night’s attacks, calling them “completely unjustifiable”.

It was an inhumane act… It’s too bad for words. Under no circumstances do I condone the likes of Isis.

“It’s just horrific. It hardly bears thinking about… And all the people that died are so innocent of anything that’s going on.”

Read more here

Here’s another look at the unnamed man with the portable piano who played a version of Imagine outside the Bataclan today.

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People continue to gather around the six locations where people lost their lives last night, leaving tributes, flowers and other gestures of solidarity.

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Sand was laid to cover blood stains outside the restaurants where the first attacks happened last night.

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The French Football Federation has confirmed that a friendly match between France and England due to be played on Tuesday in Wembley will go ahead.

This tweet from a 19-year-old student in Chelsea has been retweeted more than 63,000 times as a debate about the refugee and migrant crisis swirls around social media in the wake of the Paris attacks.

JUST IN FROM PARIS…

One of the terrorists who wreaked havoc at the Bataclan last night was a Frenchman known to police, AFP has learned.

Another journalist, who works for Liberation, said police identified him by his fingerprints.

There are also reports of a Syrian passport being found near the body another militant. But he has yet to be formally identified.

The US State Department has confirmed that an unknown number of Americans were injured in the attacks.

A statement from deputy spokesman Mark Toner read:

The‎ United States Embassy in Paris is working round the clock to assist American citizens affected by this tragedy. ‎The US government is working closely with French authorities to identify American victims. We are aware there are Americans among the injured, and are offering them the full range of consular assistance.

Here are the latest figures from Paris:

128 people have died

300 people are in hospital

80 people are in a ‘critical condition’

53 people have been discharged from hospital

Like many of us, Stephen Colbert did not know what to say last night when closing out The Late Show.

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Devastating images are still emerging of survivors in Paris. These men were pictured outside the city morgue this morning.

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Such a heartbreaking contrast to new images just found of Eagles of Death Metal playing to an engaged crowd moments before the venue was attacked.

In the chaos of the Bataclan last night, many people left behind belongings – clothes, wallets, shoes and jewellery which are still strewn across the streets.

Little signs of a normal Friday night gone horrifically wrong.

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As information slowly emerges about some of those killed in last night’s attacks, officials have confirmed that at least three foreign nationals – two Belgians and a Portuguese man – are among the dead.

David Cameron has also warned of the possibility of “a number” of British victims.

The Dáil is to hold a minute’s silence in memory of the Paris victims on Tuesday.

The mark of respect will be followed by statements to express sympathy and solidarity with the French people, Government Chief Whip Paul Kehoe said.

BREAKING: Dutch police say a France-bound plane has been evacuated at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport following “threats” posted on Twitter.

“We always take threats very seriously and we decided here to evacuate the passengers and to search the aircraft,” a police spokesperson told AFP.

Thousands of people are marching through Dublin this lunchtime in a show of solidarity with the victims of last night’s attacks.

At Gatwick Airport, a 41-year-old Frenchman is being questioned over ”what appears to be a firearm”, Sussex Police say.

The London School of Economics has named anti-corruption lawyer Valentin Ribet as a victim of the attack. He is the first person named.

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More on the incident at Gatwick Airport.

Sussex Police say that the North Terminal is now open.

A statement says the man is being interviewed:

Police were called at around 9.30am following suspicious actions by a man who discarded an item in a bin at the airport. Explosive Ordnance Disposal specialists were called to the airport to investigate the item and carried out a small controlled explosion.

Personal items and what appears to be a firearm were recovered and have been removed for forensic examination. However, the viability of the weapon has yet to be established.

A 41-year-old man from Vendôme in France was arrested at the scene at the time of the report on suspicion of firearms offences. He was ‘landside’ at the airport and had not checked in or passed through any passport or security checks.

Palestinian Islamist groups have condemned last night’s attacks.

Senior figures in Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip but is considered by the US and EU to be a terrorist group, and Islamic Jihad criticised the killings that rocked the French capital.

Nafez Azzam, a member of Islamic Jihad’s political bureau, told AFP: “We condemn this crime in Paris against innocent people, this message of hatred.”

“Islam rejects indiscriminate killing,” he added.

One of those apparently responsible for the attacks, found with a Syrian passport, entered Europe through Greece last month, a Greek minister says.

Belgian police have raided a neighbourhood of the capital Brussels in connection with the deadly attacks in Paris, local TV station RTBF reported.

The network quoted an unidentified source as saying up to three raids were being carried out in the Molenbeek district in connection with the Paris attacks but police were not immediately available for comment.

One man has been arrested.

In Paris, several witness reported that some of the attackers arrived in a vehicle with Belgian license plates.

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London’s Tower Bridge has lit up in support of the people of Paris.

The US Army’s American football team took the field for their game with Tulane today carrying US and French flags.

Many on Twitter are sharing the words of then-London mayor Ken Livingstone in the wake of the 7/7 bombings a decade ago.

Livingstone’s words closed with a message directly to the perpetrators.

Whatever you do, however many you kill, you will fail.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has postponed his trip to Europe, condemning what he called “crimes against humanity”.

Rouhani had been due to hold talks in Rome today with Pope Francis as well as Italian counterpart Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Matteo Renzi before travelling on to the French capital.

Rouhani sent a message of condolence to French President Francois Hollande on the shootings.

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Thousands of Irish and French marched side-by-side this afternoon in a sombre solidarity march to remember those who died in last night’s terror attack in Paris.

Here are some of their words:

“I just moved to Dublin from Paris six weeks ago, after six years. So I feel like Paris is kind of my home.”

“I got on the bus and people were just chatting normally, it was just so so strange. Some people didn’t know. It was just like, why has everything not stopped? Why has the world not stopped?”

Among the thousands marching in Dublin, many French people struggled for words to describe their feelings:

“I don’t know, I don’t have any feeling today, ” Alex says with his country’s flag draped over his shoulders. “I just now want to be with my family in France.”

Ireland’s flag will fly at half-mast tomorrow on State buildings.

The wife of Eagles of Death Metal drummer Julian Dorio struggles with last night’s events after the band survived among the scores murdered in the Bataclan theatre.

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French international footballer Lassana Diarra has confirmed that his cousin was killed in one of last night’s attacks.

Diarra was playing for his country in the Stade De France when his cousin  was killed.

Several people have now been arrested in Brussels during police raids connected to the attacks in Paris.

Belgian Justice Minister Koen Geens said on RTBF television that these arrests in the capital’s Molenbeek neighbourhood “can be seen in connection with a grey Polo car rented in Belgium” found near the concert hall in the French capital where scores of people were killed.

Parking tickets from Molenbeek were found inside the car with Belgian license plates, Belgian media said.

The media reported that at least five people were arrested during the raids, but the number was not confirmed officially.

In Paris, several witnesses reported that some of the attackers arrived in a vehicle with Belgian license plates.

Another person has died following yesterday’s attack. Almost 500 people have either died or been injured.

The UK’s Foreign Office has confirmed that at least one Briton is among the dead.

Prime Minister David Cameron had earlier warned of the possibility of “a number” of British victims.

The Paris prosecutor has said that yesterday’s coordinated terror attack was carried out by three separate teams working together.

Parisians who live near the Le Carillon café where 14 people were gunned down last night describe their horror and fear after finding out what happened.

One says that going out for a Coca-cola and a chat are parts of everyday life in Paris.

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Paris prosecutor Francois Molins has given some more details of the current state of the investigation.

He says that seven terrorists carried out the attack and that a passport found near one of the suicide bombers says that he was a 25-year-old Syrian national.

Molins said the attackers had worked in three teams, striking seven times in quick succession on Friday night.

“A Syrian passport in the name of a person born in Syria in September 1990 was found near a suicide bomber who blew himself up at the Stade de France,” Molins told a press conference.

The family of British citizen Nick Alexander have released a statement after his death in last night’s terror attack was confirmed.

Alexander was working in the Bataclan theatre when the two gunman stormed the concert and began murdering those in attendance.

His family say that he was ‘generous, funny and fiercely loyal’.

Tomorrow’s Sunday papers are also likely to be dominated by the horrors of Paris. The Independent on Sunday says they’re standing in defiance.

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Some of the survivors of the attack on the Bataclan theatre have been telling AFP how they escaped the slaughter.

Loic Wiels said he could feel the bodies hitting the floor around him at the Paris music hall where team of assailants opened fire.

The bullets whizzed so close, he was hit by the wood splinters they sent flying. And under his feet he could feel the blood that had poured out of the wounded and the dead.

In the packed hall, which can hold up to 1,500 spectators, the rock group had been playing for about 45 minutes when the explosions rang out.

Someone in the audience joked: “It’s firecrackers.”

“I turn around and I see two guys with Kalashnikovs. They were dressed normally: jeans and sneakers. At first I thought they were shooting in the air. Then I saw people falling over,” said Sylvain Raballant, 42.

Everyone that was in the pit, like Wiels and Raballant, hit the floor.

“I saw three attackers, two of them clearly. One looked like a young guy, with a three-day beard. The other was closely shaved, wearing small eye glasses and some kind of yellow beret. He was also wearing what I took for a bullet-proof vest. It was actually an explosive vest,” said Wiels.

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Belgian police guard a street in Brussels on Saturday where arrests were made linked to the attacks in Paris.

A spokesperson for Belgium’s federal prosecutor’s office says the arrests came after a car with Belgian license plates was seen close to the Bataclan theatre.

More reports from the scene of the Pullman Hotel where a police operation is apparently ongoing.

A police operation underway at the Parisian hotel has led to the evacuation of the Eiffel Tower area which is just several hundred metres from hotel.

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France’s Interior Ministry has said that the police operation near the Eiffel Tower has been ruled as a ‘false alarm’.

The city is on high alert tonight.

Britain stands with its nearest neighbour.

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    Mute Micheal S. O' Ceilleachair
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:11 AM

    If drug users are to be allowed small quantities then there should be a legal mechanism for the supply of these small quantities through a recognised system. The illegal drug suppliers have to be stopped. That is the kernel of the problem. To legalise the use means having to legalise the supply.

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:58 AM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: let’s be clear, this is not about legalising small quantities

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:02 AM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: this would free up time for the Gardai and paperwork. But they should not get off Scott free and should have to attend and finish drug counselling as in Portugal but let’s be real here the government will never go for this holistic approach!

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:28 AM

    @Deborah Behan: why should the not get off scot free. They are filling consenting individuals. I notice your repeal logo. Their bodies their choice, no?

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    Mute Richard Murphy
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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:29 AM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: they are not legalising small quantities of drugs, drug use is a health problem not a crime that you should be punished for

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:48 AM

    @Deborah Behan: Drug counselling?? Do you seriously think some student caught with a little bit of cannabis needs to be shipped off to some drug counselling course?

    A complete waste of money, time and resources for all involved.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:27 PM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: ridiculous argument! This is not about giving them free reign. It’s about keeping people out of the revolving doors of prison knowing that it’s not a deterrant!

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:49 PM

    @Deborah Behan: so what you’re actually saying is treat the symptom not the decease

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:52 PM

    @Deborah Behan: so you want to punish people for smoking a bit of weed, meanwhile people getting blotto on alcohol are ok. Why exactly do you want to punish these people ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:52 PM

    @Barry Davidson: Deborah is more like the pro life advocates than she realises as in, you can do what you like with your body once I agree with it.

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    Mute Paul Lane
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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:01 PM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: nanny state mentality…what makes you better than anyone else?

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    Mute Mike Hall
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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:57 PM

    @Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair:

    Totally agree, the entire issue needs to be treated as a medical, not a criminal one, for whatever problems arise from drug use.

    Interesting piece I came across today is relevant to this..

    https://acestoohigh.com/2017/05/02/addiction-doc-says-stop-chasing-the-drug-focus-on-aces-people-can-recover/

    “Addiction doc says: It’s not the drugs. It’s the ACEs – adverse childhood experiences.”

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:15 AM

    That question is asked very strangely; “Do you think drug users should escape criminal conviction?”

    Do I think people with a small quantity of cannabis obviously for personal use should be let off? Most definitely.

    Do I think addicts who make peoples lives miserable and intimidate people in the city centre in busy areas and at those soup kitchens springing up on every corner should escape conviction for their crimes? Absolutely not.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:18 AM

    If I was Varadkar I’d legalise the whole lot – and make sure criminality gets nothing and the control and supply of all the drugs would be done by the state.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:32 AM

    @Darren Bates: So the government would be supplying cocaine too? That would be an interesting development

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:55 AM

    @Darren Bates: I agree something should be done about those people but what really is the point of a criminal conviction? Their addiction is so consuming they don’t care about the rules, or convictions or jail. Wouldn’t it be better to treat those people as a health issue and save the criminal side for the suppliers?

    Did you ever see that program called Darndale (I think), it followed a few people trying to make a better life for themselves. They filmed one going to a methadone clinic and there were dealers standing outside the clinic offering drugs to people that were really trying hard to get clean. Those guys and their bosses are the real criminals!

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:05 AM

    @ Darren
    You mentioned in your first comment that heroin addicts shouldn’t get away with hassling and robbing people.
    Nobody is suggesting that. What is being discussed is whether or not they should be prosecuted for possession of small amounts of drugs.
    Of course they shouldn’t. They are addicts and will have drugs until that is solved so dragging them through the courts regularly is not going to help them get out of their terrible situation.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:44 PM

    @michael: How about legalising cocaine but only in certain licensed bars which could all be in small towns where there are ghost estates? It would bring loads of money into deprived areas while also keeping coke-heads in one place where they don’t annoy the rest of us.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:59 PM

    @Darren Bates: just like the supply of cigarettes is?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:59 PM

    @michael: If someone is an addict – they should not be convicted for small amounts for personal use.

    If someone who is not an addict is caught with a personal amount of “recreational” drugs, they should be fined without conviction, unless they are caught a few times.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:33 PM

    @Matt Connolly: how do you decide who is an addict?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:38 PM

    @michael: the same why you decide who gets access to an injection centre. It’s not difficult to identify a habitual user.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:47 PM

    @Darren Bates: Would you allow me off with the crime of mugging if I only stole for my own use? The drug pushers are hiding behind the personal use guise, they have enough for a fix on them but nearby is a substantial stash that is making the likes of drug lords very rich.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:54 PM

    @Matt Connolly: why exactly do you want to punish “recreational” drug users ? I don’t understand your logic at all

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:40 PM

    @Michael farrelly: Recreational drug users ? People who want to mask or lose sight of reality is still financing the drug lords, there is no excuse for hobbyist drug users as long as the practice remains illegal and if and when “soft drugs” become legal they will continue to skew people’s thoughts as much as alcohol does, if you have never been in the company of anyone who has taken to much drink while you were sober you no doubt will understand my point.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:48 PM

    @Jho Harris: I don’t really understand your point at all. Are you therefore saying that you would punish people who in your opinion have had too much alcohol then ? And what in your mind is the skewed thinking that you talk about ? Many artists and indeed business people have come up with very creative thinking while under the influence. Do you just want people to think the way your obviously narrow mind works ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:37 PM

    @Matt Connolly: yes but you said that drug addicts should be let off while habitual users are arrested. How would a guard decide which is which on the spot? It makes no sense, that’s my point

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    Jul 19th 2017, 3:11 AM

    @michael: Why not? The Government already supplies me with prescription drugs to keep me alive. I know these drugs are safe because they come from controlled sources. Why not treat Cocaine the same way?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:12 AM

    The results of this pointless poll show just what a backwards, regressive small minded little country we are. Christ, even the US has admitted its lost the war on drugs by legislating instead of treating. But not to worry, big bag of cans and 20 smokes is just what the doctor ordered. A country of sheep…..

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:18 AM

    @Nigel Mcatamney: Surely we should legalise drugs, drinking driving, speeding, dog fights, littering etc. Ireland should be island of liberalism where anyone can come and be oneself doing whatever he / she / they / zir / hir / xe wants.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:34 AM

    @cortisola: why not add Jay walking, slouching, excessive use of gender terms and common sense to that edgy little list of yours

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:05 PM

    @Nigel Mcatamney: well said Nigel!

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:07 PM

    @Luke: you mean nice piece of “look over there”

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:55 PM

    @Boganity: you don’t think we can learn from other countries experience ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:09 AM

    ‘Depends on the drug they have on them’ would be a handy option here.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:57 AM

    @Paul Cunningham: why?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:46 PM

    @Barry Davidson: I think he means quantity

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:14 AM

    Completely legalise and take the violence and profit out of it. American soldiers were prescribed heroin (A form of it) after World War Two, never robbed an aol lady to get more)

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:37 AM

    @Alan Moore: really? No vets have ever turned to crime to fund drug habits?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:41 AM

    @Pharmyco: not sure the point of your comment, do you have evidence that they did or not?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:55 PM

    @Pharmyco: @Alan Moore: Opiates opiates are not addictive while pain exists anywhere in the body. They’re only additive when taken if there’s no pain.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:56 PM

    @Boganity: since when did lack of pain make opiates more addictive ?

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    Jul 18th 2017, 10:04 AM

    @Michael farrelly: It seems that Boganity is correct, oddly enough. There were practically no opiate addicts when they were legal. I have no idea why, but that’s what the data says

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    Jul 18th 2017, 11:39 PM

    @Boganity: I’m on your side but that is a sort of ridiculous thing to say. It depends on which type of addiction I suppose. Many addicts are mostly psychologically addicted. They use their whatever to escape pain/life. So in this case it would be easier psychologically for someone to stop using if they were only using for pain rather than someone using as an escape. However opiates create physical dependencies. This is a matter of chemistry and biology and has nothing to do with intention of usage

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:42 AM

    Yes, qualified: If someone uses drugs, fine. If their use causes harm to others, then that harm should entail consequences. It should also involve counselling, advice and harm reduction.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:03 PM

    @George Salter: That’s alcohol out the window so.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 7:02 PM

    @Rob Cahill: I agree fully.

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    Jul 18th 2017, 11:22 PM

    @George Salter: rather than consequences I’d say treatment. Addicts are sick. They need help. The current system dehumanises them which only digs the hole deeper. Its a ridiculous system that has failed miserably. Legalise the supply and possession of all drugs and educate the public with accurate and up to date information. What people put in their own body is their business and no one else’s. As for crime as a result of addiction, I would go for a 3 strike rule. Strike 1 and 2 you get treatment for addiction. Strike 3 you clearly don’t want it so its time to punish. Can’t let people totally get away with crime either. That’s another way to reinforce bad habits

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:30 AM

    Non violent drug offenders should not be convicted in possession of an amount for personal use.For recreational drugs like Ecstasy and MDMA,there should have test kits available. There must be injection centres and plenty of councillors available to offer advice and help to addicts.

    Anybody that says “This will only encourage people to take drugs.” are idiots and should not be listened to.The drugs are here, the War on Drugs has been a complete failure and that genie is not going back into the bottle.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:57 PM

    @Dante Marquinhos: even better than test kits, there should be medical-quality labs creating drugs with exact doses.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:43 PM

    @Barry Davidson: Absolutely Barry, that’s exactly what we should aiming towards.

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    Jul 18th 2017, 11:42 PM

    @Barry Davidson: they have them in Holland and its been an amazing success. The Portuguese model with the Dutch attitude I think it a good direction

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:09 AM

    Awfully worded and inflammatory poll options, under the laws they wont be “escaping” conviction, drug use will simply be decriminalised its worked in other countries as all the stats and evidence has pointed to the continuing “war on drugs” being a complete and utter abject failure wasting time and money for everyone

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:13 PM

    Decriminalise all drugs, make them available through pharmacies, collect taxes on them, take the money out of the hands of criminal gangs, save police time, reduce prison costs.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:13 AM

    There is no good reason for it to be illegal to consume drugs /possess small ammounts for possession.

    Who is it supposed to be protected by having such a law?
    It is not helping those caught in possession, it does not keep consumption rates any lower, peoples lives are being ruined by the convictions far more so than from their drug use.
    What harm to society (or themselves) is someone with a bit of weed or some mdma in their pocket?
    None!
    A bag of cans is far more dangerous.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:02 AM

    Decriminalization is the first step in the right direction.
    Cannabis is one thing but
    There is a coke epidemic in the country that isnt being discussed.
    Its more widely used than cannabis.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:06 AM

    @Stephen Maher: Any evidence for that assertion?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:02 PM

    @Jim Dolan: yes – get once in a while. Very easy to spot in any pub or club.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:03 PM

    @Stephen Maher: there is not a chance that is true

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:05 PM

    @Dayvid McWalliams: I doubt it’s used more than weed myself but It’s seldom I use a pub toilet at the weekend and don’t here sniffing in the cubicles.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:04 PM

    @Stephen Maher: in order to have a coke epidemic first you need to have real coke and not that mephedrone-lidocaine-caffeine cocktail that is being sold as coke on the streets ;)

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    Jul 19th 2017, 2:10 AM

    @Stephen Maher: you mean lots of people in the country use cocaine socially. its hardly an epidemic. Addiction is the enemy not drugs

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    Mute Eoin
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:04 AM

    The drug users are the biggest victims

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    Mute Nick Allen
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:10 AM

    @Eoin:

    How many middle class people smoke a bit of grass? Do you really think these are the victims in the full supply chain?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:17 AM

    @Nick Allen: careful not to make this about class.

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    Mute Jimmy McCarthy
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:33 AM

    If you consider drug taking an illness then yes they should escape. The actions resulting from taking drugs, no matter what type of drug being used is a totally separate matter.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:58 PM

    @Jimmy McCarthy: the question is about “possession” of drugs not behavior in drugs

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    Mute Carl Nolan
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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:42 PM

    Our current approach is the biggest waste of time, money and policing power, not to mention it’s totally ineffective.

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    Mute Fred O'Connor
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:47 AM

    All for a progressive approach to drug policy but decriminalisation needs to be accompanied by an increase in addiction services and other measures to reduce the money made on the black market. Just changing one thing would be a missed opportunity and could make some problems worse.

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    Mute Conor Byrne
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:50 AM

    The rubbish way the question is phrased, implies that drug users should not be convicted if they commit crimes.

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    Mute meatyslaps
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    Jul 17th 2017, 10:57 AM

    @Conor Byrne: The context for the question is in the few paragraphs before the poll – it’s talking about people found with small quantities for personal use.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:43 AM

    @meatyslaps: not when viewed in a browser on the side-bar on the right. I didn’t click the article – I read the question & voted (incorrectly):

    “So in today’s poll we’re asking, do you think drug users should escape criminal conviction? ”

    “Yes, I killed & raped that woman – but I have a coke problem. ”
    “Okay, you’re free to go.”

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:04 PM

    @Conor Byrne: the first sentence of the article clearly states its about possession. You wouldn’t just read the subject line of an email and reply would you ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:33 PM

    @Boganity: I already said “I read the question & voted”.

    The question should stand alone – this one doesn’t.

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    Mute Philip Butler
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    Jul 18th 2017, 11:25 PM

    @Conor Byrne: the stupid attitude that you embrace reinforces and out of date and broken system. Get real

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    Mute Paul Lane
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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:00 PM

    Anything which grows naturally should never be illegal and to place a made up price on the cost of a marijuana plant is criminal. Oh! he was caught with a plant with 8 ounces of ‘weed’ on it so it is a criminal offence and a figure of 10k is applied as its ‘value’. This means we can apply section 15a of the misuse of drugs act 1977 and send people away for a minimum of 10 years (thanks to michael McDowell). This is nonsense and making the gardai out to be great when all they did was a bit of gardening and made it out to be something important when all it is is a cheap shot with made up prices. There is no price to marijuana as it costs nothing to grow and a waste of garda resources and a policy which creates crime and is detrimental to society. Stupid backward nanny state mentality, which is encouraged by rural publicans and politicians and damaging society. Legalise drugs and reduce crime and in addition by taxing drugs for sale we can create profits which can be benefical to society rather than waste money on the current failed ‘strategy’ . Regardless anyone who wants to grow a plant for their own use should be allowed to do so and it would also reduce alcohol consumption (which is the real government fear) and release more money to be spent into the community.

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    Mute cortisola
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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:12 AM

    We have drug mules walking free and being prised by popular media so average users should have no offence at all for using drugs in Ireland.

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    Mute Karl Patchell
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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:41 AM

    Ridiculous way to phrase the question.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:15 PM

    @Karl Patchell: I agree, the article was clearly about possession but it descended in typical Journalese English at the actual poll question.

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    Mute Seth Cheffetz
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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:09 PM

    Let’s be honest here, marijuana should not even be in the discussion. Using it harms no one.
    As for other drugs… Do you lock up an alcoholic? Do you lock up someone with a gambling addiction? Do you lock up someone with an eating disorder? No. So why are we locking up people with drug addictions?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:54 PM

    @Seth Cheffetz: very well said Seth

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:06 PM

    I voted no as my consciemce would not allow me to imprison the sick people who use drugs for pain relief, whether prescribed drugs or not.

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    Mute Austin Rock
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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:07 PM

    Yes but on two conditions, one that drug users selling drugs are still convicted and two that all drug users are kept somewhere safe away from the rest of us.

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    Mute Matt Beaumont
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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:37 PM

    @Austin Rock: Does that include people who use alcohol, one of the most dangerous drugs there is?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:58 PM

    @Austin Rock: do you drink alcohol Austin ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 12:37 PM

    Should be asking the reasons why people feel the need to take drugs, what is causing those insecurities, what is lacking in their life, love, money, family, happiness? …and address those issues too.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:00 PM

    @Scundered: why do you assume they have insecurities scundered ? Maybe they find, for example weed, a lot less harmful than alcohol !

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    Jul 17th 2017, 3:57 PM

    @Michael farrelly: well it must surely be to give them a high or some kind of escapism in life. If they were to address the source of their emotion that may help.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:53 PM

    @Scundered: While I accept that some people use drugs including alcohol to escape reality because of emotional problems, you are missing the point that the majority of people use them, including alcohol,to enhance their social experiences or otherwise.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 6:29 PM

    @Michael farrelly: and what benefit do you think you gain from it? Please define that enhanced social experience.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 7:07 PM

    @Scundered: Two weeks of intensive counselling would help many. However, the price of about €3k would scare government, as the benefit is in the future, and definitely after the term of a government…

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    Jul 18th 2017, 11:47 PM

    @Scundered: you are thinking of addicts. People use drugs for all kinds of reasons. To explore their minds, to unwind, to party etc. All drugs can be used responsibly. It depends on the intentions of the user

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    Mute Brian O Reilly
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    Jul 17th 2017, 11:52 AM

    We have a definite cocaine problem .by the time it reaches our shores having gone through all the middle men who adulterate it to maximise profit .it is hardly fit to put up anyone’s nose ,

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:06 PM

    @Brian O Reilly: great if the baby is teething though.

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    Mute KerryBlueMike
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    Jul 17th 2017, 3:59 PM

    They shouldn’t be arrested for possession but definitely should be for making a nuisance of themselves, pestering tourists and robbing.

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    Mute Alun Buffry
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    Jul 18th 2017, 9:07 AM

    If the drug user has done no harm to others, their property or their Rights, then their own RIGHTS AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RECOGNISED – if they have done harm then they can be arrested under existing relevant laws, not drug laws. No Victim No Crime. Call a doctor not a cop.

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    Mute Patrick Kearns
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    Jul 17th 2017, 5:52 PM

    Imagine small quantities means the equivalent of a six pack of beer. You’d hardly force someone to go through counselling for a six pack, even if alcohol were classified as a Class A drug.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:14 PM

    More Customs X-Ray machines at each port on the Island-if necessary put 3 in Belfast. Stop the majority of hard drugs coming on to the Island.
    Assist addicts with their addiction via drug rehab centers.

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    Mute Bryan Duggan
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    Jul 19th 2017, 1:15 PM

    People who use knowingly use dangerous drugs should be sent to jail. I’d start with the nicotine addicts. Lock them up. That will teach them a lesson. Then go for anyone who drinks alcohol, similarly because it’s such a dangerous drug that everybody knows causes widespread harm to individuals and to society. Prison for alcohol users will act as a deterrent, so that young people are not tempted to try it. Finally all the coffee addicts can be put in jail for long periods until they see the error of their ways. This would be a great first step towards the goal of creating a drug free society for future generations.

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    Mute Philip Butler
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    Jul 20th 2017, 6:41 PM

    @Bryan Duggan: best comment

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    Mute Philip Butler
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    Jul 19th 2017, 2:26 AM

    For anyone here saying we have a cocaine epidemic in the country, here is a report from January 2017 with the current statistics for cocaine use in the country. It doesn’t mention crime but there is a total figure for people who sought help for addiction to cocaine in 2016. Assuming that anyone arrested for offenses related to cocaine addiction are sent for treatment, we can also assume that this report accounts for cocaine related crime. Roughly 750 people out of the 4.6 million we have in the country. That is around 0.02% of the population. Just because it is a popular party drug does not mean we have an epidemic on our hands. Simmer down. The problem I have with cocaine use is that 1) it is highly profitable for violent gangs on the black market and 2) there is 0 control over quality of product and it is often cut with very harmful substances. Obvious answer? Legislation and regulation. Drugs are unbiased. They don’t have opinions and are neither good or bad. Not only that, if a people want something they are going to get it. Demonizing chemicals to promote prohibition is counter productive to the end goal. Which should be harm reduction across the board. http://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/17308/1/Cocaine%20Factsheet%20January%20%202017.pdf

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    Mute Tom Speed
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    Jul 18th 2017, 9:44 AM

    Drug use is a vice at most, and vices are not crimes!

    https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20020105211851/VicesAreNotCrimes.htmhttp://www.lysanderspooner.org/VicesAreNotCrimes.htm

    “Vices are those acts by which a man harms himself or his property.

    Crimes are those acts by which one man harms the person or property of another.

    Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property.

    In vices, the very essence of crime — that is, the design to injure the person or property of another — is wanting.

    It is a maxim of the law that there can be no crime without a criminal intent; that is, without the intent to invade the person or property of another. But no one ever practises a vice with any such criminal intent. He practises his vice for his own happiness solely, and not from any malice toward others.

    Unless this clear distinction between vices and crimes be made and recognized by the laws, there can be on earth no such thing as individual right, liberty, or property; no such things as the right of one man to the control of his own person and property, and the corresponding and coequal rights of another man to the control of his own person and property.

    For a government to declare a vice to be a crime, and to punish it as such, is an attempt to falsify the very nature of things. It is as absurd as it would be to declare truth to be falsehood, or falsehood truth.”

    At most Government has a right to legislate over problematic *public* drug use, but not *private.* In British law, so termed ‘private sobriety’, whether performed or not, is actually an absolute right & duty, and the Courts & human tribunals can never know of it! At least, that’s how it ought to be, but of course it isn’t right now!

    http://lonang.com/library/reference/blackstone-commentaries-law-england/bla-101/
    “Let a man therefore be ever so abandoned in his principles, or vicious in his practice, provided he keeps his wickedness to himself, and does not offend against the rules of public decency, he is out of the reach of human laws. But if he makes his vices public, though they be such as seem principally to affect himself, (as drunkenness, or the like) they then become, by the bad example they set, of pernicious effects to society; and therefore it is then the business of human laws to correct them. Here the circumstance of publication is what alters the nature of the case.

    Public sobriety is a relative duty, and therefore enjoined by our laws: ***private sobriety is an absolute duty, which, whether it be performed or not, human tribunals can never know; and therefore they can never enforce it by any civil sanction.***”

    Surely these principles of having private & public rights are global ones in all civil Societies?

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    Jul 18th 2017, 1:32 PM

    @Tom Speed: Tom… great info. Too long for this ephemeral generation though, I think

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    Mute Tomasz Irlandczik Krótki
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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:54 PM

    Drug dealers should be gaoled for life or face the death penalty. They inflict significant misery on individuals, families and society in general. Whack ‘em! Lets the punishment fit the crime!

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    Mute Michael farrelly
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    Jul 17th 2017, 4:59 PM

    @Tomasz Irlandczik Krótki: back to the war on drugs then. Yeah, we should learn from that failed policy, alright.
    Are you proposing the death penalty foe a kid that sells his mates some weed then ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 5:11 PM

    Define drug use . Then define which group . Then see about a law i suppose. Not talking about Crystal meth or crack cocaine here but let’s see what exactly the government has in mind now

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    Mute Joe Ryan
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    Jul 18th 2017, 2:01 PM

    Legalisation will put a lot of people out of a job. How Will the criminals survive

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:17 PM

    If you treat it like alcohol, if your off your box, your arrested, you drive on drugs your in court and banned. But who is going to insure they are safe? Unlike alcohol you get a bad bottle, you have a bad following day, with drugs a bad one could mean your in a coffin.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 1:48 PM

    @Dáithí Ó Raghallaigh: ridiculous comment. You do know that many people die from over consumption of alcohol but as yet nobody has died from over consumption of weed ?

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    Jul 17th 2017, 2:08 PM

    @Dáithí Ó Raghallaigh: nobody has died from smoking marijuana unlike alcohol which is regulated.

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    Jul 17th 2017, 7:08 PM

    @Michael farrelly: alcohol last I heard is responsible for more crime and deaths than all drugs put together

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    Mute Noreen Waters
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    Jul 17th 2017, 6:39 PM

    I would like to know if a person is passed out on the street off their head on drugs and brought to the hospital are they charged with drug taken. I am unemployed and I have a medical card I was charged a lot of money to have blood test and what was a free regular checkup at a young age is now 90 euros and the 50 euros for blood test I am trying to look after my health and this is what the charge is, if I wanted to I could develop a dependency, for example a person with a disability allowance because they are asthmatic and spends the day smoking wacky tobacco, where do you draw the line. To many excuses, also for people who are jailed I wonder if they had to repay what it cost the taxpayer to maintain them whilst in jail I wonder would it deter them. Just a thought. There are genuine cases and then there are the dependency cases. They need to be separated.

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    Jul 18th 2017, 9:57 AM

    @Noreen Waters: “a person with a disability allowance because they are asthmatic and spends the day smoking wacky tobacco, where do you draw the line.”

    Cannabis has been patented to treat asthma, C.O.P.D. and other lung/breathing disorders, ignorant comments only add confusion to the debate. https://www.google.com/patents/WO2007042811A1?cl=en

    “The invention relates to the use of a combination of cannabinoids for the treatment of Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD).”

    Cannabis is not what you think it is > http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/assignee/gw-pharma-limited/

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    Mute Barry Lyons
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    Jul 18th 2017, 10:29 PM

    What a loaded poll question

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