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Even his most conservative rivals are lining up to hammer Trump over his latest proposal

The businessman’s support for a government database to track Muslims isn’t going down well.

DONALD TRUMP’S SUPPORT for a government database to track Muslims in the United States is drawing sharp rebukes from his Republican president rivals as they try to distance themselves from a proposal that legal experts say is unconstitutional.

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush called the prospect of a registry “abhorrent”. Florida senator Marco Rubio said the idea was “unnecessary” and not something Americans would support. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who has largely avoided criticising Trump throughout the 2016 campaign, said, “I’m not a fan of government registries of American citizens”.

“The First Amendment protects religious liberty, and I’ve spent the past several decades defending the religious liberty of every American,” Cruz told reporters in Sioux City, Iowa.

The criticism came after Trump voiced support for a mandatory database for Muslims in the US while campaigning in Iowa on Thursday.

Trump was asked by an NBC News reporter about the prospect of a database and whether Muslims would be required to be registered. In a video posted by the network, Trump said, “They have to be.”

Asked whether Muslims would have to register at mosques, Trump said:

“Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management.”

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In an interview on Fox News Channel yesterday evening, Trump tried to clarify his position.

“I want a watch list for the Syrian refugees that (President Barack) Obama’s going to let in if we don’t stop him as Republicans,” he said.

He said he had trouble hearing the NBC reporter’s questions. But he did not disavow the idea of a general registry for Muslims living in the country or say decisively he would not support it.

“I want to have watch lists. I want to have surveillance. I mean, we’re not a bunch of babies,” he said.

Trump has also voiced support for closing certain mosques as a way to contain the terrorist threat in the US.

GOP 2016 Iowa Ted Cruz - one of several GOP candidates to criticise Trump over his comments. Associated Press Associated Press

The Republican candidates’ unified criticism of Trump is striking.

His rivals have vacillated in how they have handled other inflammatory comments from Trump, apparently wary of alienating his supporters while increasingly concerned that he has held his grip on the race so late into the year.

Civil liberties experts said a database for Muslims would be unconstitutional on several counts. The libertarian Cato Institute’s Ilya Shapiro said the idea violates basic privacy and liberty rights.

Marci Hamilton, a Yeshiva University legal expert on religious liberty, said requiring Muslims to register appears to be a clear violation of the Constitution’s protection of religious freedom.

“What the First Amendment does and what it should do is drive the government to use neutral criteria,” Hamilton said.

“You can use neutral criteria to identify terrorists. What it can’t do is engage in one-religion bashing. That won’t fly in any court.”

Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who has challenged Trump’s lead in the GOP race, said the US should have a database on “every foreigner who comes into this country,” but he rejected the idea of tracking U.S. citizens based on their religion.

“One of the hallmarks of America is that we treat everybody the same,” he said.

“If we’re just going to pick out a particular group of people based on their religion, based on their race, based on some other thing, that’s setting a pretty dangerous precedent.”

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    Jul 27th 2014, 8:56 AM

    Can’t really see James Reilly going too quietly to Africa in the rear of a cargo plane…

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:10 AM

    A roll of duct tape and some tie wraps is just the medicine the good Dr needs.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:00 AM

    There are fairly bizarre regulations as to the use and reuse of medical equipment which is far more about maximising manufacturers profits than protecting patients. A basic example is crutches. Hospitals no longer want them returned as they are only guaranteed by the manufacturer for a single patient use. Those that are returned are quickly checked over and collected for dispatch to the developing world.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:03 AM

    i;ve noticed that too, also the dear old arm sling used to be no more than a bit of sheet, now hospitals have to spend money on the new improved versions that do the same thing,

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    Jul 27th 2014, 8:59 AM

    Great to see this happen, free up dead space and assist others as well. I hope Cuba is also label to benifit. with the US imposed embargo I am sure they would also find the equipment helpful in their free training of doctors for third world countries.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:04 AM

    Are you mad, do you think reilly would say to the yanks “btw we’re sending stuff to cuba”

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    Jul 27th 2014, 8:58 AM

    Excellent,

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:36 AM

    I fully support helping countries such as Uganda and Zambia to improve their public health services.

    I’m interested to hear what gay rights campaigners who condemned Sochhi Winter Olympics have to say about this support of Uganda, a notoriously homophobic state. (I’m unaware of Zambia’s laws)

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t make donations to Uganda. But when we do, it’d be worthwhile putting some pressure on them about their human rights record.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:37 AM

    I’m no economic genius but isn’t our Country broke? Don’t we currently borrow 2 billion a month. So giving our stuff away would seem to me as being the wrong option. The Africans are laughing at us, sound, dead on paddies.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:43 AM

    I’d rather see medical equipment going to Uganda over cash. Least the equipment will help people whom need it. Assuming it’s not sold on black market.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:47 AM

    Ireland borrows €600 million a month to keep going. The majority of western countries borrow each month to keep the country running.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:41 AM

    How about sending this equipment out to Gaza? They could do with this after all the hospital equipment that hss been destroyed by Israel shelling.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:49 AM

    Israel says no. They wont let paracetamol in never mind medical equipment.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:14 AM

    Hope these equipment don’t cost these poor countries a fortune to maintain in the immediate term.
    Think of the disposal !!

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:04 AM

    It’s been widely reported that the hse down through the years has been paying over inflated prices for medical supplies that we borrowed cash, at over inflated rate. Now the same organisation has probably gone and done the same with new equipment but the old equipment, that actually still functions and is given away. But as long as we viewed as the Florence Nightingale of Europe that’s all that matters, we deserve to be broke!

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:31 AM

    I agree with the first part of your comment, Barry. The mark up for medical equipment is eye watering. However, if the equipment is not going to be used here why not send it where it will be used?

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:43 AM

    Ireland pays over the odds for all things medical. Up to 70% more than the UK. Maybe a deal done with the government and pharmaceutical companies if they locate in Ireland.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:21 AM

    They learned from the e voting machines.
    Will they also be sending out the equipment from the closed wards in their cost cutting exercises?

    For export, nurses, doctors, hospital equipment !!
    I have a premonition that hospital services will be outsourced to Africa, Ryanair will get us there. Ambulance service rationalized as well

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:50 AM

    Look if we had economy of let’s say Norway I’d to be all over this noble cause. But let’s no kid ourselves,we are painting over the cracks, borrowing money to pay debt. Sorry my thinking doesn’t fit liberal agenda but look at medical card debacle, home help cut, elderly dieing alone etc. So I cant subscribe to the good will without being practical and inward looking.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:59 AM

    Maybe if you didn’t hand over your only natural resource to the EU (fishing grounds) you would have an economy a bit more like Norway.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 10:59 AM

    Read the article! This is equipment that is no longer being used. Rather than cluttering the basement level corridors outside supplies in the hospital or just being trashed, it gets sent to somewhere it can be of benefit. What’s wrong with that? Equipment is sidelined for a variety of reasons so why not let it help someone else?

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:41 AM

    Bobby from bobby. The biggest sell off or give away has been our oil and gas to shell British and statoil Norwegian. But sure we are sound like that!!!!

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:47 AM

    What would you like me to be? :) to date, Ireland has handed over €600 billion to the EU from it’s waters since the 70s. No oil or gas production from Ireland just yet.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:54 AM

    The hashtags down the bottom should include #eejits #economics101

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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:47 AM

    Why was this not done until now

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    Jul 27th 2014, 7:24 PM

    It is done on a regular basis, but a few people within the HSE have got together to organise it. Rather than individual hospitals sending old equipment out to different countries it’s all gathered in one place and all sent to the same countries. You be the judge.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 12:46 PM

    The Rhcp unwittingly penned our national mantra ‘Give It Away’

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:20 AM

    Agreed bobby but if we Irish then who are you?

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Bobby

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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:58 AM

    €600 billion in fish!!! I’m out.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 12:10 PM

    I know crazy amount but true.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 12:21 PM

    Interesting read, backed up by official European Union statistics. After Germany, Ireland is the second largest indirect contributer to EU coffers. Not only did Ireland get a raw deal on the bank bailout, but the EU has robbed you since joining in the 70s. Time to take back!!

    http://www.sceala.com/phpBB2/irish-forums-25255.html

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    Apr 10th 2017, 12:43 AM

    HI WE HAVE AN SUPPLIER WHO NEEDS USED MEDICAL EQUIPMENT THE REFURBISH IT AND EXPORT IT TO INDIA OR AFRICA IF ANY INTEREST email pesgreen@eircom.net Please regards Patrick.

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