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No opportunities for non-EU students I fell in love with Ireland but will soon have to leave

The flooded market for HSE placements has become unsustainable, an American medical student studying here writes.

FIVE YEARS AGO, I was recommended a study abroad programme by a friend looking into applying to medical school abroad.

I applied, and through this programme, I was one of about 40 North Americans accepted to an incoming class in Ireland. The spots were competitive, and I felt honoured to be invited to study in such a beautiful place with a charming community.

In my first year or two, I felt comfortable, made great friends, found a partner who wanted children and thought that I had found a place where I could make a real difference.

When I decided I definitely wanted to stay, I knew that I wasn’t at the top of the list for an internship, without which a medical graduate is unable to work.

Internships in Ireland are distributed to Irish and EU citizens by class ranking, and whatever’s leftover is assigned to non-EU graduates by class ranking.

Talking to interns, registrars, physicians and graduating students assured those interested in staying that sure, we might not get our desired location, but it’s generally no problem – there are plenty of spots.

Disappointment

However, in the years following, a bottleneck changed everything. The advent of graduate-entry programmes has flooded the market for internships.

Suddenly, all of our advisors told us that it’s just not possible. I was told that in the past couple of years, not a single non-EU student had been offered an internship from my school.

This was devastating news. I have stopped investing money into the city and community like I used to.

Getting driving lessons, planning a wedding; it seemed futile to spend time cultivating a life here that will only come to an end in a few months’ time.

Choosing to attend medical school in Ireland is an investment in the country, the economy and its people.

The cost of attending medical school in Ireland ranges from €39,200 to €52,500 per year, depending on the school.

Including living expenses, this culminates in a total of roughly €256,800 to €310,000 per student brought into the country.

That is a quarter of a million dollars we each feed into the Irish economy with no regrets.

Lack of support

However, I myself have been told by potential North American applicants that the only reason they’re hesitant to come to Ireland is the noticeable lack of postgraduate support in the past year – through no fault of the universities themselves.

There are no routes for us to take, and the schools are frustrated as well.

Advice to apply to the UK and return after the intern period finishes is laughable, as one needs a visa to apply to their internship positions, and you can’t obtain a visa without already being offered a position.

Residencies, which are North American training programmes analogous to an internship, do not qualify as a recognised internship programme, so returning to Ireland from America or Canada would also be difficult.

HSE policy means that a direct-entry medical student who has barely passed, or failed a year, will be offered an internship before an international graduate-entry student who has come top of his/her class.

The rules are driving away potential applicants, future doctors and millions of dollars in revenue.

The disappointment and frustration is palpable throughout all graduate-entry years in my programme.

Need for change

The incomparable amount of medical students who wish to attach to the intern scheme and the availability of internship spots has become unsustainable.

There needs to be a fundamental change in mindset of the HSE to create a place for individuals who are passionate about giving back and donating their time to Ireland.

Writing to and visiting politicians has only yielded secretary stamped form letters of thanks or a quick pat on the head. The only way forward is to get our story heard.

There is a physician shortage in Ireland – we hear about it every week, with patients waiting for 96 hours on trolleys and doctors collapsing after 60-hour shifts.

In 2014, junior doctors from Pakistan were hurriedly ushered in to fill the 120 vacant posts.

We need doctors in this country, and we are turning away excellent Irish-trained applicants.

We need relaxed changes to the HSE’s internship placement requirements and the creation of more internship posts. We need budgetary incentives to do so.

We need loyalty initiatives, offering extra internship spots for years of service.

We need to support the growth of the Irish education system and economy. We need to people to hear this story.

Going forward, we’ll be disappointingly applying to our home countries of Canada or America as plan A instead of plan C.

I know that I’ll be appreciating the time I had and people I met here, and I hope that the upcoming loss of the family I made here is a temporary one, as naive as that may be.

The writer is a medical student at an Irish university. 

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:30 AM

    50 out of 50 peopled surveyed liked this news

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    Apr 10th 2014, 10:19 AM

    Anyone know what kind of moolah this company pays? There are no details on the link.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:33 AM

    While this is great news that we’re attracting more big tech companies, unfortunately most of these jobs like every other big tech company that comes here are going to be multi lingual which means they’ll be filled by people moving here to work.

    People who learn English as a second language (possibly along with a third) as kids in school.

    It’s beyond time our government instigated a mandatory foreign language program in primary schools.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:50 AM

    10s of thousands of people live in Dublin that speak many different languages. These are tax paying jobs. Good for the economy.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:22 AM

    Thousands of Irish people speak foreign languages fluently.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:26 AM

    OU812: while this is great news but….. you are assuming you know their recruitment plan. Unless you do can you can you not just accept it as good news. It 50 jobs. Even if 10 go to “Irish” it ten more employed.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:30 AM

    In the eyes of any growing or established company in the US we are a small populated country. Having access to a diverse pool of talent when they set up here is important.

    As somebody mentioned earlier these companies will have nice wage bills that will be taxed & according to the Department of Finance every multinational that sets up here creates at least one job in a different sector of the economy.

    This is good news.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:05 AM

    Promoting Arabic, Russian, Chinese and German, in early secondary school cycle, as foreign language alternatives for student’s career development, would be a positive move for Dept of Ed IMO.

    Lucrative careers as International traders awaits the Irish youngster who masters one or all of Arabic, Chinese, Russian and German, especially in Gulf States.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:33 AM

    Agreed Rory. Maybe if they took Irish off the mandatory curriculum our students could focus more on a foreign language.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 10:14 AM

    If the careers for those who speak these languages are so lucrative it would be difficult to fill any teaching posts with suitable candidates given the relatively low rates of pay.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 10:17 AM

    Actually kids who attend Gaelic-speaking schools are not just (predictably) better at Irish but also study more and are better at foreign languages (including English btw).

    What we need is to make ALL primary education through Irish and then we’ll be as multilingual as our continental peers.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:52 AM

    Ho ho, time for the higher corporation tax proponents to come in with disapproval.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 8:28 AM

    Locating in Ireland is not always because of the lower CT tax. Why locate in Lisbon first or consider London as a location when Ireland has a lower CT than both countries.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:56 AM

    Did Dublin win these jobs over London, or did they open an office in London also?

    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/06/surveymonkey

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    Apr 10th 2014, 6:26 PM

    Read the second paragraph again :)

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    Apr 10th 2014, 9:04 AM

    Survey monkey should do well in Dublin. The place is full of primates as it is!!!!

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    Apr 10th 2014, 10:10 AM

    The Portuguese must be delighted at this news.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 9:37 AM

    The crusade led by US congressmen against Apple and Irelands tax laws seems to have had quite a positive effect on jobs creation here lately.

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    Apr 10th 2014, 7:39 AM

    We have one

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