Robert, Read the story again….in fairness it’s poorly written. Abdullah is the man whose wife and two children died. He is now in Iraq’s Kurdistan region. Abdullah’s brother (Mohammed) and his family are now in Canada.

I did read the story and my comments still stand . I know the father went back to syria not Iraq .

Robert, Mohammed was in Germany and he left his family behind in Turkey (according to the article). It sounds like he did not endanger his family’s life – his brother Abdullah did. There are two different brothers and their respective families being talked about in the article. Abdullah’s wife and children died not Mohammed’s.

I don’t care who they are I’m delighted for them. A family in need getting a chance !

james mc, Jessie Paden made a perfectly sensible comment. The family were safe in Turkey and the mother and father put their children’s lives at great risk. If they had actually been fleeing war by sea people would think very differently about the actions they took. The mother and two children are now dead. It’s absolutely tragic and I feel very sorry for the woman and her two children and the father left behind, but it was also a risk that the parents should never have taken.

Better benefits in Germany , the father should of been charged with endangerment to his child , f@@##ing idiot

I’d rather have 100 of them here, Jesse, than one of you.

Point out 1 thing that Jessie said thats not true. You need to get back into the real world. She is entitled to have her say as a tax paying Irish citizen.

I feel sorry for the father. Quoting from an interview ‘I was only going there to secure a better life for my family. I worked in Istanbul for long hours for only 50 Liras a day to provide food for my kids. I had to work very hard so that I didn’t have to end up in the streets begging for food.’…. ‘ I mean Syrian workers only get 25% of wages in Turkey and are made to feel like it’s a favor by to let them work, do you understand what that means?’. What he said is backed up by this Reuters article about how Syrians are paid in Turkey http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TN1DA20151204 They did originally flee Syria due to the war as researched independently by The Guardian ‘left Damascus in 2012 and headed to Aleppo and, when clashes happened there, they moved to Kobani’ which has also been decimated by fighting. He did take a risk but I wouldn’t be so harsh on the reasons. These people had solid jobs and normal lives before the war started. Working for a quarter wage is not something easily accepted when your life was once normal and people will always strive for a better life.

How’s the view from up there on your high horse !! A lot of people on this thread are truly revolting and lack basic respect for their fellow man. Shame on you all.

Direct Quote: “Alan Kurdi, initially reported as Aylan Kurdi”

So it’s Alan

He is the definition of an economic migrant. Europe was not good enough for him. He is responsible for his sons death out of nothing more than greed

Expect a lot more of this with Justin Bieb err Trudeau in charge… Dumb canadians as much as this smuggler man are to blame….

Refugees turn on their host

Kailene Pillay, The Witness | The Witness

THE good Samaritans who took onto their farm over 100 refugees displaced by this year’s xenophobic violence, now claim they have been threatened with murder by the same people they had set out to help.

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/refugees-turn-on-their-host-20151217

Food for thought!

The father is now living in Iraq !! after having returned to his ‘unsafe’ home village in Syria.

He should be prosecuted for putting his wife and children in harm’s way to get from a safe country (Turkey) to a richer and more generous safe country in Europe.

All the liberals hold him up as some kind of tragic hero, he risked the lives of his wife and kids for greed.

Any questions on why the father stayed?

Possibly because business is booming, at two grand per head and no life jacket

He was being paid 25 percent of a legal Turkish wage in Turkey. Would that be good enough for you?

Is greed wanting to earn more than 25 percent of the legal wage in Turkey? This is what he was earning. There are articles to back it up and describing how it works in Turkey which I placed in another post.

@cholly “he is responsible for this sons death” how dare you make such a assumption. You have no idea what this mans life was or is only what you have seen in the media.

Waste of time Bill…. most people engage in this despicable guilt-tripping and finger pointing to avoid the feelings of helplessness and guilt. How anyone could say anything other than god bless the child and his family, is truly beyond me. Irish history blah blah, suffering is universal and if we were more in touch with our own history of forced migration while being vilified and demonised (which happened for a very long time), then our only response would be one of sympathy and empathy.

A lot of western media have truly done a job on peoples’ mindsets, making them ‘question’ why he was fleeing Turkey etc. He wouldn’t be the first parent to endanger his child’s life by making reckless decisions under stress, still, it’s no reason to be disrespectful and lacking in empathy.

You do realise that this family had been living in Turkey for a number of years before they risked their lives trying to get into Greece…the most probable reason…better chance of getting to Canada. They then returned to Seria sadly to lay the kids to rest in their home village. Once any refugee passes through one safe country he becomes a migrant. The father but his childrens lifes at risk.

Syria

Robert Preston not sure why I am wasting my time replying to such an ill informed comment but can you answer one question
Hundreds of thousands of Irish families travelled to Liverpool to board the coffin ships to America and Canada, why did they not just settle for England they would not have starved there ?

Thank you Liam and Rosie Gluten it is good for your empathy with bereaved parents irregardless of religion or class

I douth the Irish people would have risked the coffin ships if the were living in a safe country with a job, home and food. The Irish who landed in America did so to prevent starvation and to save their lives, hence they could be regarded as refugees. This man was hunting down an earlier way to Canada and to get get his teeth fixed therefore he is a migrant. He risked he family for financial reasons and they died because of what he done. I believe he is guilty of discraseful parenting jand should be jailed for manslaughter. Please don’t confuse what he done to the people who risked the coffin ships during the famine because it isn’t like for like.

These people are called immigrants and not refugees. You claim asylum in the first safe country. If a Syrian travels around the world twice some of you people still consider him a refugee. Guess what…when he left a safe country to travel to Greece he became a migrant. These kids had lived in Turkey longer than they did in Syria.

Trying to compare this situation to Irish people fleeing the famine is such a load of ignorant BS.

Nobody blamed the family for fleeing Syria to Turkey as refugees.

People blame them (the father) for subsequently sending his kids from Turkey to western Europe not as refugees but as economic migrants. And risking their lives to do so – with tragic consequences.

There was no need for the family to leave Turkey in order to survive.

Interesting that some people don’t want to point the finger at the father much.

The idea that we should just open the borders and welcome migrants coming in illegally across the med because its the “right thing to do” is stupid and dangerous.

I read an article about a Nigerian refugee (wink wink) who after 7 years of appeals and 7 years living on the state benifits plus the legal bills had his application denied. The reason for this….he and his family were returning to Nigeria every year on their holidays. But he was fleeing for his life….what a joke.

Bill there was no famine in Turkey . The irish did not travel through many countries to reach their prefered country or pay people smugglers . They probably did not want to stay in england (i will help you with this one ) ENGLAND CAUSED THE FAMINE TO A LARGE EXTENT OR STOOD BY AND DID F. ALL . But go ahead and try and link the two if it makes you sleep better at night . I would also like to hear an Irish Historian view on this .

Yep and i bet they didn’t get free housing, medical, education and benifits waiting on them. If you want to compare what this clown did with the famine….then its like an Irish dad putting all his family in a dingy and drowning them 3 years after the famine when he had a home, business and extremely comfortable life then blaming starvation for there deaths. Get it into your heads…he killed his family trying to get to Canada.

Dear Robert
Could you please explain why the starving Irish of1847 travelled to Liverpool during the famine to England a land of plenty but still decided to risk their lives and their children’s lives to board coffin ships to America and Canada
Regards
Bill

If you open a history book you will find out that Ireland was an occupied counrty during the famine. If you manage to read a few lines in it you will discover than England was the country that occupied it. Are you seriously wondering why they migrated to America from England? And when they arrived in America and lived there for years, if the decided to move on….then they cant complain that they are fleeing for their lives from starvation and oppression.

“Twelve thousand Irish emigrants landed in New York within a ninety-six hour period in March 1852.
A population greater than some of the most flourishing villages of this state were added to the City of New York in ninety-six hours..”

Here is another excerpt from the New York Times just two years later :

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/insider/1854-no-irish-need-apply.html