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Introducing the latest internet sensation: a man who throws eggs at/to his mother every day...

Lesser women would have ‘cracked’ under the pressure.

CONTINUING THE fine tradition of scaring your loved ones for internet kudos, this guy spent over a year chucking eggs to his poor mammy.

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We say ‘to’ instead of ‘at’, because she managed to catch them almost EVERY TIME. That’s one way to one-up your shitebag of a son, eh?

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The video was sent in to the UNILAD Facebook page, where it’s been shared a whopping 82,742 times so far.

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That casual one-handed catch. This woman was a pro baseball player in a former life.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:18 PM

    Biggest of them to reject it to date…I think this could start unravelling pretty quickly.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:23 PM

    The TUI are relatively small is the only thing. Not knocking it at all – hopefully it will help others make the decision. ASTI seem to have been pretty clear on talking of a no vote but the INTO have acted deplorably and they’re the big teacher’s union really.

    Hopefully it gives other union members the confidence to vote no – just saying that the TUI aren’t the biggest out there.

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:13 PM

    I reject teachers 3 months summer holidays, their 9AM to 3.45PM working hours, their 2 week mid term breaks, their guaranteed generous pensions, their job security, the fact we can’t sack the incompetent and lazy ones.

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:21 PM

    He he he, knew that would get a reaction.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:24 PM

    Haters gonna hate… Rejects gonna reject.

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    Mute Paul Lanigan
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:25 PM

    Well said. Miserable whiners

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:28 PM

    Awwww, u hurt my feelings.

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    Mute John Flannery
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:29 PM

    When did we start getting 2 week midterm breaks and finish work at 3.45pm? Don’t know what job you are on about but it’s definitely not teaching.

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:32 PM

    My kids are off for two weeks, maybe you get so much holidays you don’t notice the extra week?

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    Mute eric nelligan
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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:41 PM

    Just cos your kids are on hols doesn’t mean the teachers are, I was in school for 3 hours today, about a quarter of the staff were there. History, geography and cspe projects and classes were being run, science teacher clearing out the lab and sports teachers preparing S&C programs for teams.

    Back in tomorrow with 5 more teachers to run U14 and U15 fitness tests. All for the grace of God and your thanks.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:45 PM

    Btw, just to clarify, my comment above was directed at Paul Doyle, and not at teachers. I fully support teachers and other public servants in their fight against more cuts.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:02 PM

    Eric, swop my 50 60 hour 49 weeks per year, not guaranteed, no pension crappy job for yours in a heartbeat.
    You have it so good for so long you don’t know what reality is.
    Reality is working 50 or 60 hours a week for minimum wage, being treated like dirt by arrogant ignorant managers that think they are gods gift to humanity, being so tired by wednesday that you regularly miss your bus stop because you are asleep, not seeing your children during your holidays because when you so have some time off you are so exhausted you have no energy.
    Please swop with me for a month, please, please, please.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:14 PM

    Thanks red thumbs, your compassion is refreshing.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:15 PM

    I live next door to a teacher. She’s gone to Spain, like she does every mid-term break. I think someone forgot to mention that when it snows it’s more days off. I also drive by a couple of schools on my to and from work. If there are teachers in there they must have climbed over the locked gates and parked their cars somewhere else.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:21 PM

    @Eric. If the teachers work so hard over the mid-term breaks, why don’t you abandon them altogether? Surely the extra teaching days would benefit everybody, not least the parents who are been driven up the wall at present by their kids.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:21 PM

    Paul….what’s stopping you from becoming a teacher? It’s never too late to change career & you seem deeply unhappy with yours.

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    Mute Johnny Reynolds
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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:24 PM

    @paul- maybe if you listened to teachers in the first place then you wouldn’t be in yer shite job pissing and moaning on here.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:24 PM

    I find it hilarious when the anti-PS brigade come out with their concept of what “reality” is, and how bad they have it, and how they have to live out of rubbish bins and defacate in their living rooms. Maybe you should have jumped on this public sector gravy train during the boom years when you had the chance. But you didn’t. Instead you scoffed at low paid public sector workers (most of whom were priced out of a property bubble created by the private sector) and ran this country into the ground.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:26 PM

    John Michael you do understand that school holidays are a mental break mainly for the children. It is recommended by psychologists and doctors alike. You need to break up the constant edginess and pack mentality that comes about from thirty adolescents/kids being together. From your comments it is very obvious that you see education only as a babysitting service. Sad really.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:28 PM

    It is the public sector that regulates the banking sector, our politicians are public sector, need I say more?

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:32 PM

    HSE run managed and staffed by the public sector.
    Hmmm, beginning to see a bit of a pattern here.
    Lack of responsibility leads to bad practice

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:37 PM

    Teachers don’t decide on the legal numbers of days a child is in school for. Also teachers are not baby sitters to mind ur children who are driving u up the walls as you say. Rare your own kids.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:45 PM

    @The Heathen. Mid- term breaks are not recommended by every psychologist and I know plenty of children, mine included, who would rather be learning in school and not sitting on their backsides at home watching TV. Also my wife has to take time off work to look after them. So she loses out on holidays and money, like a lot of parents, just so the teachers can keep their handy number. By the way, print the name of that child psychologist that believes it is best for our children to sit at home for three months during the summer. Mental stress. You obviously have no kids or you just don’t care about their education, judging by your comments.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:50 PM

    Fuuniest thing I have ever read on these comment boards, john michael. What absolute drivel.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:51 PM

    @The Heathen. It takes youths a long time to adapt to work life after leaving school because they are used to weekends off, finishing early, every holiday off and long summer holidays. The system doesn’t work and any psychologist or doctor will tell you that. Call a spade a spade. Mid-term breaks benefit only the teachers and the travel companies.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:54 PM

    3 hours. Wow!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:57 PM

    How dare she go to Spain. She’s a teacher for God’s sake!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:14 PM

    To Paul, you too can have a pension, you just have to give up 15% of your salary for up to 40 years, as all public servants do now. 6.5 % compulsory reduction on starting your job and a nice hefty levy of 8.5% since 2009. If every worker did this we might not be facing a pension timebomb. I suppose you will have the hand out for a pension when your time comes like one third of the private sector.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:24 PM

    @Ruairi. I don’t see what’s funny about our kids getting part-time education. Also, don’t just make throwaway comments. If you know something say it. Don’t just throw a strop because you don’t like what you hear.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:25 PM

    It’s really sad to read what other people think about teachers, scoffing about our holidays and short working hours. Apart from what you might expect goes on in a small primary school – covering the curriculum – here are a couple of examples of what else we have been up to…

    Comenius and e-twinning – pupils writing, skyping, recording audio
    Green schools, vegetable gardens, flower beds
    Anti bullying campaign, cyber awareness campaign
    French lessons
    Choir
    Cookery lessons
    Station teaching
    Literacy lift off
    Computer lessons, PowerPoint, making a DVD
    Write a book, Scríobh leabhair
    Discover primary science
    Mathletics, Maths week
    Food dudes, Milk scheme
    Do sheans ar cd
    Drama production
    Cumann na bunscoil
    Fai tournaments
    Buntús
    Trying to build up our resources by collecting Tesco tokens etc..

    It’s easy to see we’re trying our level best to provide the very best education for your children. But when I explained further down this thread for my own reasons to accept this deal, people immediately began to red arrow the idea that I wasn’t willing to put up a fight. But they are right. I have surrendered. And will no doubt have to watch everything that we have worked for fall to pieces as resources become more and more squeezed in schools. My heart breaks to think of it.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:25 PM

    It’s really sad to read what other people think about teachers, scoffing about our holidays and short working hours. Apart from what you might expect goes on in a small primary school – covering the curriculum – here are a couple of examples of what else we have been up to…

    Comenius and e-twinning – pupils writing, skyping, recording audio
    Green schools, vegetable gardens, flower beds
    Anti bullying campaign, cyber awareness campaign
    French lessons
    Choir
    Cookery lessons
    Station teaching
    Literacy lift off
    Computer lessons, PowerPoint, making a DVD
    Write a book, Scríobh leabhair
    Discover primary science
    Mathletics, Maths week
    Food dudes, Milk scheme
    Do sheans ar cd
    Drama production
    Cumann na bunscoil
    Fai tournaments
    Buntús
    Trying to build up our resources by collecting Tesco tokens etc..

    It’s easy to see we’re trying our level best to provide the very best education for your children. But when I explained further down this thread for my own reasons to accept this deal, people immediately began to red arrow the idea that I wasn’t willing to put up a fight. But they are right. I have surrendered. And will no doubt have to watch everything that we have worked for fall to pieces as resources become more and more squeezed in schools. My heart breaks to think of it.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:29 PM

    @Ruth. It’s ‘rear’ not ‘rare’. What did I say about the schooling system?

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:38 PM

    @John Michael you’ve got a serious chip on your shoulder. If its such an inconvenience looking after your kids don’t have kids. Schools are not babysitters. Secondly, I’d love to see you in front of a class of 30 kids for 9 x 40 class periods a day being “on” and performing all the time. But no you live in a fantasy dream land where there are no incompetent people in your workplace, everyone is perfect and the whole world is kept going by you because if you didn’t go to work it’d all just stop. Grow up you sycophantic rhetoric spouting idiot

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:39 PM

    @Bev. I think you do a brilliant job with few resources, but you must admit the holidays you receive are excessive to say the least. We all do hard jobs with little praise but most of us only get four weeks a year if we’re lucky. It’s nothing personal.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:48 PM

    Eh, there’s nothing stopping anyone being a teacher apart from a grade in honours Irish. What are u whinging for? Go be a teacher if u would love to. There’s plenty of courses to suit all. Ur signing on for a while lot more than u think.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:03 PM

    @Gerry. You need to chill out and read what I said. I don’t think schools are babysitters. They are there to educate but I don’t see why they can only do this for little over half of the year. It’s ironic that teachers are now insulting parents for wanting their kids to be in school. I didn’t realise that being a parent that doesn’t care was all the fashion. Also Gerry, your bleating about your job being so hard is evidence that some teachers don’t care anymore. If it’s so hard leave. No you won’t. Where else would you get a job that lets you off for most of the year?

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:16 PM

    Sheep bleat as you should know following the herd and having no independent thought in that head of yours. You earlier complained and vented your spleen regarding your own job so your own advice should be observed before prescribing it for others. If I were you, granted I’d have a far inferior IQ, I’d check the facts and true figures of the people you are attacking. Take your children out of school and home school them, from your comments they’re obviously not getting the education you feel they should be. Familiarise yourself with the working conditions of teachers and the different strata within the teaching profession before making gross generalisations. And finally come up with an original point of attack rather than the hackneyed holidays jibe that all the other sheep use. Bleat on

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:16 PM

    Your employer may be breaking the law if you are working such long hours. Check out the European Work Time Directive and take a case. If they sack you that’s also wrongful dismissal. There are hard earned employment laws still in existence in this country to protect workers from exploitation from unscrupulous employers. FG and IBEC might be trying to erode our rights but we must not allow this happen. PS lay off the teachers like a good man.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:16 PM

    I am not a teacher but appreciate the extra time the they put in day in day out to encourage and help the children of ireland. School plays, sports events, extra classes and so on and so on! Anyone who covets their hard work and the constant challenges they encounter could always train and apply for such a “cushy” number!!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:24 PM

    School isn’t a child minding service and is not for the benefit of working parents to use as a child minding service

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:36 PM

    @Gerry. First of all, I have a far higher intellect than you think but it’s obvious from your comments that you look down your nose at parents that send their kids to your school. Secondly, unlike you, i haven’t made any generalisations. The facts are that you, as a teacher, work for little over half of the working year. You are currently enjoying two weeks off, paid, while the rest of us have to wait for a break during the summer. If that’s not cushy I don’t know what is. Finally, don’t tell me what to do with my children concerning their education. You don’t run the school system, you work for it. If I could make changes I would be taking stressed out clowns like you out of the classroom. You come on here spouting vitriolic abuse because someone dares question you. I’m glad you don’t teach my children.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:39 PM

    I’d be very careful about the personal assumptions and accusations you make little man

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:52 PM

    @Gerry. You made assumptions first so I made them back. You got one wrong though. I’m not little. If you want to threaten me then I have no problem letting you do it in person.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:53 PM

    Part time education? Irish students have more tuition time in more subjects than all bar one OECD country. Irish teachers teach approx 130 hours per year over the OECD average. Nothing part time about it.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:53 PM

    Who said I was a teacher? I never claimed to be I’m just voicing my opinion as I see it. Paul get off your high horse, readjust your moral compass and kindly stay out of discussions of which you know nothing about

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:01 AM

    I called you John Michael on your incorrect and unfounded assumptions, you are becoming quite petty and threatening physical force shows how little you are regarding your opinion not your stature,another one that got past you. Check the facts and figures of your argument, it’s just the holidays you have an issue with? There are thousands of teachers who don’t get paid a cent for the extra work they do above and beyond their contracted hours of contact time, there are also thousands of teachers who are part time and who don’t get paid for holiday time. My problem is with people like you good sir who generalise and assume you know everything about the profession when you clearly do not. If I personally offended you I apologise, sincerely. However, I stand by my comments regarding your generalisation of the teaching profession and your grossly inaccurate assumptions

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:10 AM

    I love it when people give out about teacher holidays but its a fact that the vast majority of people don’t use their full allocation of holidays in a year.

    School holidays (and school days) are designed not for teachers but for to optimize student performance, get a greater learning v life balance and all that. Every parent will tell you how much of an attention span a child has.

    As a teacher I promise you that coming up to the end of term I’m wrecked, dealing with 20-30 kids is very draining, now 90% of the pupils are little bother but a small % are tough, for a variety of reasons.

    The contributors giving out about the excessive holidays are more than welcome do some home schooling with their child, how about a bit of revision or even getting your child to read a book? As the parent you can ‘teach’ too. In fact, this might even be a shock but many of the best performing kids have good parental support and guidance. So instead of Moaning about teacher holidays, How about you help out child get ahead!!!!

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:13 AM

    Gerry, I’m going to bed. Work in the morning, for most of us anyway. I suggest you go change your pants and remember not to make anymore threats to people. It’s unfortunate but I think people reading this page will have gotten an insight into teacher’s minds and they will be somewhat shocked and scared by it.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 2:10 AM

    If those youths can’t adapt, they could always become teachers and just carry on? Why didn’t you??

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    Mar 27th 2013, 3:35 AM

    John, im not a teacher. But wow you made a pure wally of yourself.

    Obviously got that “apply yourself” commit alot, ignored it and now work doing whatever unskilled job you profess to doing.

    I think teachers do a great job. In many many cases and this is never acknowledged but in many cases they save children who have crap patents who should not be parents ans the schools become a normal place for the child to learn some social skills.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 3:36 AM

    Comment*****

    Auto correct

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    Mar 27th 2013, 3:12 PM

    The usual misconceptions going on here…
    A few points to note:

    Teachers are paid for their contact hours so when they’re paid for their full time position they’re paid for their annual contact hours divided by 26 pay periods and then paid fortnightly. This is simple administration rather than the alternative which is to pay over work periods only.

    Teachers aren’t babysitters; if you have a problem with all the time off then you need to really think about why you have that problem.

    If you think that claiming to work 50/60 hours per week for 50 weeks of the year is a reason to attack teachers then really you should look at why you didn’t become one. Also, you should be confronting your employer about the working time act because you’re breaking the law. Here’s some help for you, poor diddums…. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0020/sec0015.html#sec15

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:20 PM

    Well done teachers!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:29 PM

    Bullcrap. My mate is a teacher of 16 years and after the last USC he earns 54k for 28 hours a week, 8 months a year. It’s a well paid number. Anybody who thinks that’s not a great deal is off their head.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:38 PM

    Niall, you forgot to mention the brilliant pension that the contribute feck all to.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:37 PM

    Paul, you are a very stupid man if you think teachers get free pensions. Get your facts right. Independent actuaries have factually proven that younger teachers now contribute more to their pensions than they will ever get out. I now pay 15% of salary to pension.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:03 PM

    88 people think 54k for 8 mths work is a tough deal. Muppets

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:38 PM

    He is working for 16 years, Niall. Your figures are out slightly, maybe your mate likes to inflate a little but even so, most teachers who have entered the system in the last 8- 10 years will never see a paycheck or conditions like this…..ever.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:47 PM

    Paul, teachers/lecturers do contribute to their pensions. New staff must live til age 93 before they recoup their contributions. Do not believe what you hear/read in the media!

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    Mar 27th 2013, 10:39 AM

    Sean in 2007 he was on 59k. That was after 10 or 11 years, I saw his p60. In response to a great pay day he quipped nothing stopped me from doing a h dip. Fair point I suppose.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:19 PM

    I thank all these hardworking teachers who invested themselves into my and the countries education. I hope they keep up their standards and have the same enthusiasm when teaching my kids. More power and support to them. Along with the guards, nurses and firemen, these people are the foundation stones of our society.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:03 PM

    taxpayers are the foundation of our society.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:22 PM

    Are these professions not taxpaying?

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:29 AM

    No.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:58 AM

    Lol the gremlins must magic off the hundreds every payday I thought the taxman took lol

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:29 PM

    Top move by the TUI. Stand by for the onslaught. Teacher bashing commences in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:33 PM

    We should be looking for quality educators… Not the cheapest people. Well qualified people with experience who will do the job well is what we need working in schools. Education is one of the things we should be investing in. It’s a long term plan we need. The mess they are making now will only be come obvious in a few years time. Schools are really suffering. Many sections of society are working extremely hard and long hours and others have lost their jobs. It has been easy for sinister parties to convince the public that teachers have it easy. People love remembering their least favourite teacher. It’s incredibly tough and hard work. It doesn’t stop when school finishes. The hours are long and the work stressful. It’s your/ our children who will suffer if they mess up the education system. We need quality people, good resources and structures in schools.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:21 AM

    Alan, indepndent economists have stated these proposed cuts will not achieve anywhere near the projected savings the government have spouted. The subsequent loss of tax revenue will be huge. Around 5000 private sector workers are likely to lose their jobs due to the restrictions placed on the economy by these cuts. Make no mistake local businesses will suffer as a result!! The Government are very sucessfully playing public and private sector against each other when we should stand side by side against the tyranny and propoganda!! Why are lower paid workers being crucified again when our ministers are to take a hug 0.9% cut!!!!!!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:22 PM

    Teachers, Gardai, nurses etc, all professions providing the highest standards in service in a professional manner. Pity their pay doesn’t match.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:26 PM

    You earn as much as you’re worth.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:38 PM

    @paul, three words, Brian Cowen pension

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:39 PM

    Paul, then you are probably overpaid.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:24 PM

    Those Garda driving up and down the motorway looking for over zealous drivers are really worth their money.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:44 PM

    Yea John, cos dangerous drivers never cause accidents:)

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:21 PM

    Fair play to them…. Siptu had better watch out

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:15 PM

    We’ve been advised to vote no by our local siptu rep in nursing/midwifery so it looks as if the tide is turning.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:50 PM

    The PNA stand shoulder to shoulder with you. ICTU have abandoned the working class of ireland in both public and private sectors. They’re nearly as detached as our present government.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:21 PM

    Two weeks off: 75 tests to correct from First and Second years. Leaving and Junior students are electronically submitting Easter work for me to correct (that’s about 70 students). Spending a day next week in school preparing them for the LC French oral exam. Teaching is about dedication. Perhaps the people who continually disrespect the profession as adults didn’t respect the teachers they had in school and thereby, as previously stated in some comments tonight ended up in “crap jobs”.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:03 AM

    All there people knocking teachers how many of you would do the job or would be glad if your kids got jobs teaching i am not a teacher but i see how much my kids benefit from the efforts of teachers and i enjoy the holidays as much as they do .

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    Mar 26th 2013, 7:20 PM

    Before we admire the courage of the TUI putting it out there, may I say sometjhing – Reginold feck off!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:10 PM

    Just reported on Irish Times site that the TEEU reps are withdrawing their recommendation to members to support CP2. Turning tide?

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    Mar 26th 2013, 8:37 PM

    Who are the Teeu reps looking after

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:13 PM

    Sparks, fitters, plumbers etc.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:27 PM

    Fair play to the Teachers’ Union of Ireland … your’re not alone… Vote NO!

    Mar 2013
    “Labour Relations Commission Proposals for the Public Service Agreement (Croke Park 2)
    Report on
    The proposed agreement results in the following:
     Extra unpaid hours
     Reduction in overtime pay
     Reduction in allowances
     Pay increment freeze
    As there are numerous work arrangements for each category of employee, we have used examples based on assumptions regarding the average employee.
    The table below gives a summary of the worked examples shown in this report. ”

    Psychiatric Nurse €48,860 €5,441 11.1%
    Staff Nurse €49,501 €5,662 11.4%
    Garda €54,954 €2,797 5.1%
    Garda Sergeant €62,123 €2,248 3.6%
    Garda Inspector €68,746 €2,401 3.5%
    Fire Fighter €60,575 €1,836 3.0%
    Paramedic €36,711 €3,560 9.7%
    Care Assistant €41,945 €3,811 9.1%
    Executive Officer €45,616 €3,356 7.4%
    Higher Executive Officer €55,415 €4,102 7.4%
    Senator €65,621 €621 0.9%
    Posted on INMO website.. open access..

    HCA,NURSES, EMS are getting screwed.. (gender equality ????) Senators 0.9% oh my what a proposal…

    Vote No!
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    CPA1+USC Lost income 14,000 /year 50,000 euro pre 2013 proposal… post proposal over 20,000/year (100,000-150,000 respectively in next three years including loses acurred in CPA1 (total of 7 years)!
    Shameful…Vote NO!

    Unacceptable! Vote NO, Enough is enough!

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    Mute Kate Ní Bhriain MhicAodha
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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:13 PM

    @john Michael I didn’t study for 4 years in college for my B.Ed and another 2 for my masters to be a babysitter. If your children need to be minded get a babysitter.

    Also do the deluded contributors here think that teachers go in and stand in front of 30 students and do no prep beforehand? The hours ye are quoting are called “class contact hours” all other work eg correcting exams, questions, writing notes, organising trips etc is done on top of that. I’d love a clock in card so that they could measure the complete hours we do and then I’d never have to bring home the bags full of copies I bring home.

    @bev by voting NO you guarantee a pay cut but that is the lesser of 2 evils. With S&S going you are already getting the pay cut but will also have your terms and conditions damaged further.

    As for the pension between the Levy and super Annuation I pay approx 15% of my wages towards said pension. I will never get back what I pay in. It’s time the PS stood up and said NO.

    I bet those of you complaining got bonuses and perks during the boom I didn’t. Also who exactly stopped you teaching if it’s such a handy number?? I’ll swap with any of you for a month but bet ya wouldn’t last the month

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:21 PM

    Marian Finucane earns €400k for 4 hrs broadcasting per werk (excluding summer hols), Pat Kenny earns €600k for broadcasting 12hrs per week (excluding hols). There is currently no fair and just facilitator in RTE.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:02 PM

    It’s just the beginning of ballots… it will be finished around April 20th… Vote No!

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:45 AM

    “If a doctor, lawyer, or dentist had 40 people in his office at one time, all of whom had different needs, and some of whom didn’t want to be there and were causing trouble, and the doctor, lawyer, or dentist, without assistance, had to treat them all with professional excellence for nine months, then he might have some conception of the classroom teacher’s job.” — Donald D. Quinn

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:26 PM

    Well done tui

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:35 PM

    Well done! Nevermind the shitstirrers, this is a watershed moment, I hope and plead with all other public sector workers who still have to vote to do the same! Voting no is the only option we have as a society to show the solidarity that the government have tried to destroy in the last 5 years by pitching one sector against another. It is time to tell them you cannot ignore your people indefinitely! Well done to TUI members to show that Social conscience still exists!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:57 PM

    Lets get a few things clear here. The media has failed this country and its people for far too long in failing to accurately portray any argument or opinion objectively. There have been agendas and business interests behind every aspect of reportage on the economy since the decline in public revenue began.

    The myth that public sector workers are all have job security has been perpetuated for too long. The myth that public sector workers do not contribute to their own pensions needs to be refuted. Pay, conditions and the casualisation of the teaching profession has gone unreported. The increase in the pupil teacher ratio has gone unreported. The cancellation of promised building and restoration programmes has gone unreported. If parents knew what their kids were facing into with Ruari Quinns ill begotten and ludicrous junior cert reforms they’d be up in arms. Only recently have parents realised how badly run the project maths scheme is being implemented in schools.

    People are genuinely ignorant, through no fault of their own, as to the real issues affecting real people. That is the reality you won’t hear or read about.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:33 PM

    I’m a teacher of 12 years, on paper my pay sounds good to me and I know the job security is great but when I see what actually appears in my bank account, I genuinely worry about making ends meet. I worry about my boiler breaking down, I worry about the washing machine going on the blink, I worry about bringing a baby into this world and trying to support him/her. For this reason, I’m voting yes. I know exactly what I stand to lose and it provides me with some degree of certainty. I can’t afford to vote no and face the unknown. It’s a dreadful position to be forced into but I can’t see any other alternative.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:45 PM

    Bev, the problem is you certainly don’t know exactly what you stand to lose. You know the difference for this year, maybe, but by rolling over on this we are basically opening up for much more. Review of allowances. More unpaid hours to add to the 82 free we will be currently giving.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:42 AM

    Bev by voting yes you are giving in once again, basically saying take away my S&S allowance I won’t complain and come after me again in 2 years time. This government will only stop if you fight back.

    All teachers have given up a massive Amount, here are some examples to remind yourself;
    Holidays for maternity gone (only
    Group hit).
    2 cuts to student teacher ratio.
    Career guidance gone.
    33 croke park hours.
    Proposals to correct our own JC students work.
    14% pay cut + taxes, USC, vat etc.
    NQT dropped 2 points on scale and removal of degree & HDip allowance. Posts of responsibility not replaced.
    Implementing new JC course with little likely hood of adequate resources or training.

    We have been threatened that if we don’t vote yes pay cuts will be implemented either way, and maybe they will but to do that the gov will have to break CP1. Do you think an under pressure labour will want to break an union agreement? Will they want to fight against the traditional support?

    Bev, change you mind, not to be rude but your reason for voting yes is pathetic. Stay strong, don’t be bullied, vote NO or else I can promise you they’ll be back in 2 years for more.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 8:12 PM

    Bev, one more thing to remember when you consider a yes vote: by voting for this agreement you are forcing 2800000 other public sector workers to accept this deal with you. I hope you have read up on what they are all set to lose. Firstly I think it is morally wrong to vote for an agreement that does not just include your union. Secondly, while I totally understand that you are afraid of the unknown, voting for this agreement is voting for the unknown, there are a number of points in this agreement that cannot be clarified by government or unions, you are basically giving the government a blank cheque, and they can fill in the details later. Do you really trust them to do the right thing?
    Thirdly, sorry to be blunt, but voting yes shows a complete disregard for the colleagues that come behind you- whatever about your pay and conditions, many teachers will lose their jobs if you vote yes, you are basically signing their p45!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:02 PM

    Pension clarification: public servants pay well over 15% for 40 years to obtain a pension of half their salary INCLUDING the STATE PENSION. Private sector employees who do not make private pension contributions receive the State Pension based on their USC contributions. That is €12k at present. An unemployed person during that period also receives the State Pension. The media is biasing public opinion and this is obvious from reading the remarks in this forum.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:10 PM

    I could not agree more with you re the media and its obfuscation

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:05 AM

    I’m all for teachers getting a fair deal, and a huge amount of teachers go above and beyond the call of duty as educators, the put in long hours, take extra cirricular activities, direct plays, run choirs and train football teams. These people are true committed educators, they deserve the wage they work for, and shouldn’t be forced to take a pay cut.

    However, there are teachers there, who put in the bare minimum, aren’t willing to teach a class properly, and barely cover the curriculum, (I had 3 of these across 2 secondary schools) they dirty the name of the good teachers, and need to be sacked, there has to be some mechanism to sack those who cant teach, or are unwilling to teach if this was brought in, I would fully and 100% support teachers pay being left alone,

    Also, when a teacher retires, they shouldnt be brought back subbing or supervising, these roles/ chances should be given to new teachers to gain experience, instead of rolling out the retirees…

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    Mar 27th 2013, 7:06 PM

    I agree with you….and I am a teacher.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:05 PM

    A lot of my colleagues will disagree vehemently, but looking at what is going on in Cyprus it is, in my view, crazy to reject this. What’s next? Strikes? Across the board cuts of 10 to 15 per cent? If someone can tell me where the money will come from to retain the status quo then fine. But shouting about things not being your fault while at the same time demanding money we have to borrow doesn’t work anymore. I’m just thankful to have a job and that they are not coming after the few quid I have. Defeatist? What’s the answer then????

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    Mar 26th 2013, 9:39 PM

    ” If someone can tell me where the money will come from to retain the status quo then fine.”

    The money comes from not paying unguaranteed bondholders alan. CP” aims to save a billion over 3 years, this governmant handed out more than that to unguaranteed bondolders in a single day a while ago.

    Oh, and the status quo has not been maintained.. The PS took about a 15% pay cut, has lost 10% of its numbers and are having to do more with a lot less.

    Open your eyes dude.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:47 PM

    23 red thumbs but only one effort to answer my questions. Wouldn’t exactly change my mind on that basis. Seems like a lot of people don’t like things as they are but have no idea how to fix things other than the usual burn the bondholders. Forget it. That ship has sailed. Anglo was bailed out. Never should have been but was. How do we fix things now? Because I don’t believe for a minute there won’t be pay cuts.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:17 PM

    Third tier tax band on salaries over €80k.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 4:51 AM

    @ Alan O’Connor

    It’s a pleasure to finally read a comment from a realist on these message boards. The real issue here is what you asked – just where does the money come from? It has to be borrowed. Ireland cannot ever recover from this economic turmoil if we fail to address the problems in the state finances.

    Ideally nurses, teachers, gardai and firemen – they’d all be paid handsomely for their services. It’s difficult work and in the cases of the latter two it can be dangerous as well. Educating our younger generation is an admirable calling and nursing is an extremely difficult and worthwhile profession. They all provide a hugely important public service.

    Unfortunately though we cannot afford to pay them all top dollar. Our governments and elected officials have been to blame for this. But we have to live with it now.

    Burning the bondholders is no answer to anything. We still need to address our overspending and feeble tax system. That means increasing taxes and cutting government spending.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 6:49 AM

    @Alan,
    In 2010 a colleague of mine with political connections (then FF govt) told me that the master plan was to reduce the standard of living for public servants by 40% by a series of salary cuts and taxes. I laughed in incredulity!

    Right now I personally take home 25% less than in 2009 and if the next round of Croke Park is successful, this debit will increase to 32%. Following the imposition of property and water taxes and income tax hikes in 2014, we will be within shouting distance of that 40%. Any shortfall could be addressed in Croke Park-3!

    If public servants don’t stand up and say “enough is enough” by voting “no” to CP-2, the government will feel they can do push us around till kingdom come. A “no’ vote will at least require them to legislate and thereafter be held accountable for their actions.

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    Mar 26th 2013, 10:05 PM

    Once the agreement is rejected by all (hopefully) then the real fun will start.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 12:56 AM

    @John Michael. I notice it’s your wife that has to take time off to mind the children when they are not in school. Why don’t you do it and get them off the couch that they don’t want to be on, engage them in some of the activities provided by Bev earlier in this thread. Picture yourself doing it with 30+++ !!

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    Mar 26th 2013, 11:53 PM

    @alan the pay cut is coming either way and like everyone else I’ll cope with that. I won’t however vote YES to working more hours, losing S&S, a further moratorium on posts and all the other conditions of service they want to erode. Pay we may get back in better times but once conditions of service are gone they are gone for good. That’s why I voted NO. As it is the likes of John Michael thinks we are babysitters for his kids n thinks that best practice in educational psychology is a myth made up by teachers so they can have longer holidays.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 9:52 AM

    Good points on terms and conditions. Worth thinking about.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 10:45 AM

    Can’t believe it took a few comments to start the teacher bashing…usually one moron jumps in on the first comment…disappointing! If its such a handy job why isnt everyone a teacher? Well done TUI, I fear other unions will not follow suit though! Why all teacher unions haven’t come together on this is beyond me!! Teacher bashing is a No, union bashing – of one union in particular- is a definite yes!

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    Mar 27th 2013, 10:41 AM

    For all you people who are voting soon, bear in mind that the TUI was not allowed to participate in the Croke Park talks due to its size. We had absolutely no say in counteracting the Governments suggestions. Although some teachers were represented by the ASTI and the INTO, no Third Level/IOT/University representation was allowed. Not good for democracy or sound pedagogical/andragogical debate.

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    Mar 27th 2013, 6:57 PM

    My earlier post re RTE salaries wasn’t far out! How can they ask the Taoiseach why he earns more than Obama?

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