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Full recounts in at least two constituencies - so how does it work?

In many constituencies, it has been nerve-wrackingly close.

ALMOST 24 HOURS after counting first began in this general election, counts are to resume in 20 centres across the country.

In many constituencies, it has been nerve-wrackingly close and already there have been calls for recounts in some areas.

In Clare, a full recount has been ordered, and will begin at 11am today, following a request from Michael McNamara of Labour. He suggested there may have been confusion between his surname and that of Fianna Fáil’s Michael McDonagh.

A full recount will also take place in Wexford tomorrow morning. Independent TD Mick Wallace took the third seat in this constituency in the early hours of this morning. With two seats left to fill, it looked like the fourth would to go Fine Gael’s Michael D’Arcy, leaving his party colleague Paul Kehoe and Sinn Féin’s Johnny Mythen with just 52 votes separating them for the final seat.

Just after 5.30am this morning, the presiding officer said Mythen had called for a full recount which will begin at 10am tomorrow.

A returning officer is due to adjudicate this morning on a request for a recount in Dublin South West after Independent Katherine Zappone took the last seat, ahead of Fine Gael’s Anne-Marie Dermody.

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In Dublin South Central the returning officer will also adjudicate on a request for a full recount. The request was made by Fianna Fáil, with candidate Catherine Ardagh battling for the fourth and final seat with Anti Austerity Alliance/People Before Profit’s Bríd Smith.

And in Donegal, a recheck of votes for Sinn Féin candidates Gary Doherty, Pearse Doherty and Dessie Shiels has been granted.

So, how does it work?

Under electoral rules, a returning officer can decide at any time to re-examine or recount any or all of the ballot papers and amend results, even if they have already been announced.

Candidates can request a re-examination or recount of any particular count after it has been completed. This is most likely to happen when a final seat is filled, with just a few votes between the candidates battling for it.

A candidate or party can also, before a result is formally declared, ask for a full recount of all votes.

Once a recount is concluded, the only way a candidate can challenge it is by presenting an election petition to the High Court within 28 days of the result being declared.

With some big names still in tight races to hold onto their seats, we may see calls for a number of other recounts as the day goes on and the counts come in. It could be a long road yet.

Liveblog: Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil neck-and-neck as count continues>

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    Mute David Carroll
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    May 31st 2015, 4:04 PM

    Great story Journal, thanks for sharing!

    Did ye see the one about the Maltese billionaire whose preferential treatment by IBRC cost the Irish taxpayer hundreds of millions, and how he is attacking elected TDs and trying to rewrite history (by having the Dail record amended) – and how our dear leader Herr Enda and his cabinet of cronies are conveniently shying away from the issue because they’re in bed up to their eyeballs with this tax exile?

    No?

    Ah sure not to worry, it’s not like it’s a major story in the public interest or anything…

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    Mute Michael McCabe
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    May 31st 2015, 4:11 PM

    Just a quick message. I’m deleting your app and refusing to visit the Journal on line again. Your complicity with DOB’s attack on freedom is revolting. I urge everyone else to do the same. Advertisers, please take note!

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    May 31st 2015, 4:23 PM

    Please do so. Bring the rest if the f uc king idiots with you. Cheers.

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    Mute Chris Burton
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    May 31st 2015, 4:27 PM

    Bye, loser.

    Don’t forget the rest of the armchair protesting gimps.

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    Mute patjoejoe123
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    May 31st 2015, 4:51 PM

    good riddance

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    Mute Charles Villers
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    May 31st 2015, 5:16 PM

    No popular at school at school chris???? Would the dog only play with you when mammy tied some sausages around your neck?

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    Mute Chris Burton
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    May 31st 2015, 5:20 PM

    4 questions marks? Desperate.

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    Mute Charles Villers
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    May 31st 2015, 6:10 PM

    Questions marks???? Left out?

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    Mute Pearse Mc Mullen
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    May 31st 2015, 7:26 PM

    whats wrog Dziadek, having a bad day at the office? I reckon you and patjoejoe,Mk76, Chris Burton are having a complete meltdown of sorts today lads – what a shower of W-Anchors you really are, lol

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 8:44 PM

    Are you really still going with the w-anchors jibe?

    Tell you’re Mom and Dad to go easy on the sugar and to get you more involved in exercise outside of school based activities.

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    Mute Pearse Mc Mullen
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    May 31st 2015, 9:18 PM

    And you tell your mom and dad, That you are sorry for turning out like a horrible ball bag of a human being.
    with not a single redeemable feature they can be proud of, in short, apologise for wasting their time and energy trying to bring up a morally decent person and failing miserably.

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    Mute Dermot Fennelly
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    May 31st 2015, 3:55 PM

    I’m sure he has a poem about that .

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    Mute Charles Villers
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    May 31st 2015, 4:14 PM

    It goes like this

    “We are now aware… that the former CEO of IBRC made verbal agreements with Denis O’Brien to allow him to extend the terms of his already expired loans…

    I understand that Mr O’Brien was enjoying a rate of approximately 1.25% when IBRC could, and arguably should, have been charging 7.5%.

    Given that we are talking about outstanding sums of upwards of €500 million, the interest rate applied is not an insignificant issue for the public interest.

    We also know that Denis O’Brien felt confident enough in his dealings with IBRC that he could write to Kieran Wallace, the special liquidator, and demand that the same favourable terms extended to him by way of a verbal agreement be continued.

    We now have Kieran Wallace, who has been appointed by the government to conduct the IBRC review, actually joining with IBRC and Denis O’Brien in the high court to seek to injunct the information I have outlined from coming into the public domain. Surely that alone represents a conflict”.

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    Mute Deirdre Murphy
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    May 31st 2015, 4:17 PM

    Is mise Catherine Murphy

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    Mute Colm Moran
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    May 31st 2015, 4:27 PM

    Well done catherine Murphy your doing a great job keep up the pressure

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 4:52 PM

    Holy sh*t.

    A great photo of our President at a different time in his life and the LLC foot soldiers are on banging on about DOB.

    Get a grip and layer up on the tin foil guys. Utterly moronic.

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    Mute Ivan Murphy
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    May 31st 2015, 6:13 PM

    MK76… blah.

    Great poem Charlie!

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 6:19 PM

    Like I said. Utterly moronic.

    But mobs are usually brainless.

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    May 31st 2015, 6:20 PM

    DOB -Dirty Old B@stard

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    May 31st 2015, 7:20 PM

    I can just see Michael D. jumping up and down, saying “I can’t see” and “can I sit on your shoulders?”

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    Mute Pearse Mc Mullen
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    May 31st 2015, 7:38 PM

    LOL MK76 – whats the matter hon? – not getting your way today in the comments section? – What a trolling W-anchor you really are, and you have the neck to call others trolls?

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    Mute Ken McCarthy
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    May 31st 2015, 8:42 PM

    Some interesting all encompassing reading…..

    http://www.fairsociety.ie/tag/denis-obrien/

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    Mute Ciaran Ó Fallúin
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    May 31st 2015, 9:26 PM

    Catherine Murphy might have been well intentioned, but that 7.5% is sensationalist and devalues her comment and amounts to slander. It wasn’t a bloody credit card. Rates have been at a historical low for 6 years now.

    For her to include that 7.5% is not a factual element and amounts to abusing her Dail privilege and basically means she’s slandering…

    Meanwhile, if her other assertions are true, DOB deserves his day in court as we all would, but we’d also be entitled to out own privacy before any court decision is made.

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    Mute John Mcloughlin
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    Jun 1st 2015, 5:59 PM

    Give it a rest

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    Mute Jebus
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    May 31st 2015, 3:59 PM

    Come on journal. Seriously I like using this app and commenting with other users of the app but come on stop being cowards. The Denis O’Brien IBRC interest rates raised by Catherine Murphy in the Dail were not part of the RTE story and are not covered by the injunction. So why won’t you say anything about it? Nothing can happen to you if you post an article.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:29 PM

    Go spam somewhere else please, you are ruining this for everyone

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    Mute Jebus
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    May 31st 2015, 4:42 PM

    No lmao.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:43 PM

    Chris it’s funny how you call me a broken record but all you comment is “loser” repeatedly. Do I really need to go through this with you again?

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    Mute patjoejoe123
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    May 31st 2015, 4:52 PM

    if you are unhappy i suggest you don’t read the journal, it really is that simple :)

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    Mute Ian Moran
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    May 31st 2015, 5:59 PM

    Hello there Chris, what seems to be the problem? These people can comment in any way they so desire but all you seem to want to do is be aggressive. Grand, go ahead as you can do whatever you want and it’s a bit of entertainment. However, I’d just like to inform you that you actually come across as the sad loser here, to use your own words, with nothing better to do. Bit of advice man, either be constructive here or go and do something with your life rather than acting the maggot here. G’luck!

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    May 31st 2015, 3:59 PM

    Have to say the Slane site servs the concert goers well.

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    Mute patjoejoe123
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    May 31st 2015, 4:54 PM

    all that frustration and nowhere to troll :D

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    Mute Ivan Murphy
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    May 31st 2015, 6:15 PM

    patjoejoe123, at least you see the issue at hand!

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    May 31st 2015, 3:56 PM

    “Always look for the truth from the top down, rarely from the ground up. Journalists are never real journalists if they are the agents of power, no matter how they disguise that role. Real journalists are agents of the people”. John Pilger

    Pretty apt for these “journalists”

    Glad to see elsewhere there’s a few brave journalists and editors doing their job

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    May 31st 2015, 4:10 PM

    Would you like a billionaire to sue you? Probably not.

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    May 31st 2015, 6:16 PM

    Can’t get an injunction on the constitution though.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:13 PM

    Any photos of Denis OBribe ?

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 5:12 PM

    Any chance of you morons not polluting The Journal with you utterly moronic BS.

    Layer up on the tin foil and take you’re brand of idiocy elsewhere.

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    Mute OggieThe4th
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    May 31st 2015, 5:31 PM

    *?*your *your

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    May 31st 2015, 5:38 PM

    Oops.

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    May 31st 2015, 7:24 PM

    Mk76 = one seriously pissed off FG troll, or W-Anchor for short

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    Mute Chris Burton
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    May 31st 2015, 7:34 PM

    “W-Anchor”

    OMG, that’s so clever – I see what you did there!

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 7:39 PM

    Ah Pearse. Did you overhear one of the big boys in school make a funny?

    Or are you actually an adult and affirming my view of the intelligence of the LLA?

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    May 31st 2015, 7:40 PM

    Get yourself a T-Shirt made with it Chris, It would fit you very well, at least figuratively speaking it would, Whats wrong hon? not getting your trolling ways on the comments section lately?

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    Mute Pearse Mc Mullen
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    May 31st 2015, 7:43 PM

    No MK76, I`m just taking the piss out of the likes of you and patjoejoe, you know yourselves who you are, the FG trolling network that is working double ovrtime on a bak holiday, stuck in your little basement style office typing on every comment section you lot can find, You showere of professional trolls are having a hard time running around all the sections trying to put out all the little fires that are burning about your glorious leader “the Ginger Ninja” and his boss DOB

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 7:47 PM

    Wow. Your parents need to control the screen time and maybe put you in for a few extra writing classes.

    Good effort at trying to be a grown up though. Keep trying.

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    Mute Pearse Mc Mullen
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    May 31st 2015, 7:51 PM

    And your parents need to be Sterilised after popping you out. ;-)

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 8:51 PM

    A new high for the LLA.

    Like I said before, moronic.

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    Mute John
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    May 31st 2015, 3:55 PM

    Bob Dylan. Didn’t that concert end in a mini riot?

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    May 31st 2015, 4:23 PM

    It was the night before iirc.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:13 PM

    The comments on the app store for the journal.ie are just as good as the comments here. Freedom of speech ☆ it’s your own fault journal!

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    Mute patjoejoe123
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    May 31st 2015, 4:57 PM

    the journal is a private business, its their right to publish and censor who and what they please as is their right completely. if you have an issue with that then tough :D

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    Mute Diarmaid O'Fionnachta
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    May 31st 2015, 5:39 PM

    It’s the right of a citizen living in a free and democratic society to have a free press which will inform them about matters of constitutional importance.

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    May 31st 2015, 6:18 PM

    patjoejoe123, owned gimps will not stop us (the Irish people) ! Perhaps there is a Maltese version of the journal that you should pollute.

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    May 31st 2015, 7:27 PM

    patjoejoe123 is an absolute W-Anchor of a troll,and he slates other people for trolling? – LOL

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    May 31st 2015, 4:00 PM

    Yes saw it earlier. I didn’t see you publishing Catherine Murphys speech in the Dail about Denis O Brien though.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:33 PM

    Fine Gael Minister Paschal Donohoe says the ban on reporting Catherine Murphy’s comments in the Dail about Dennis O’Brien’s 1.25% loan of 500m from state owned IBRC is untenable. The Sunday Times and Broadsheet.ie clearly agree. Sadly it seems the Journal doesn’t, and we wont forget. http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0531/704983-rte-injunction/

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    May 31st 2015, 4:18 PM

    My goodness he shrank alot!! But The Journal should grow a pair of cojones!!

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    Mute Eoin O'Hagan
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    May 31st 2015, 4:39 PM

    I witnessed the slick MCD and Dublin Bus operation to get people home after the concert. Thousands and thousands of Foo Fighter fans did the long trek back up the hill to the bus departure point. Corralled into a fenced off area where they were segregated into chutes. Six buses would pull up to the chutes and 80 people a time boarded. Every five minutes for two hours this amazing sight was occurring. The fans, many of whom had got covered in muck getting out of Slane Castle, trudged wearily towards the buses, where they were happy to see six buses come at once. Kudos to the much maligned Dublin Bus who with MCD got everyone home.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:23 PM

    A deadly President who agreed with and signed up for the people to be charged for water- deadly all right-

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    May 31st 2015, 6:14 PM

    Threw his principles out the window a decade ago .

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    May 31st 2015, 4:37 PM

    You’d want eyes on the back of your head to keep up with Michael D. All talk about equality and fairness but signs IW legislation on Christmas day when everyone’s backs are turned, he’s just another **** on the gravy train.

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    Mute Diarmaid O'Fionnachta
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    May 31st 2015, 5:43 PM

    The president has no constitutional recourse to deny a bill of his signature. He can pass it on for review for constitutionality if he want a but the IW act, while not popular, was never unconstitutional. Therefore the president can do nothing but sign it.

    If you want to stop Irish water you had better arm yourself with some facts otherwise you should just give up

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    May 31st 2015, 4:22 PM
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    May 31st 2015, 4:30 PM

    And he looks so innocent, who’d have thought that this bloke would be instrumental in bringing in the privatisation of our water and giving all its infrastructure and assets away for free to a private company and would have absolutely nothing to say about it.he’s just a puppet.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:59 PM

    Am I the only one who couldn’t give a s**t what Michael D was foing in 1984 I wonder????

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    May 31st 2015, 4:20 PM

    Off his head on hash tablets…

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    May 31st 2015, 4:12 PM

    He always reminded me of the old bloke on the old fivers?

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    May 31st 2015, 4:20 PM

    Scotus

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    May 31st 2015, 4:14 PM

    Can’t see Waylon J. Smithers, Jr. in that photo lol.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:10 PM

    In angry about this.

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    May 31st 2015, 5:19 PM

    I recall seeing him at the Stones concert too. He must have been a Slane regular!

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    May 31st 2015, 4:01 PM

    I dunno???? Jury is still out here.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:47 PM

    is that the feet of a young Enda Kenny panned out on the ground beside him…..?

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    May 31st 2015, 6:19 PM

    No they’re not Endas feet.
    Enda wasn’t allowed go to such events even as an adult .He stayed at home with his mother until he got married late in life and never really achieved much .

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    May 31st 2015, 4:59 PM

    Before he started dining on the prawn sandwiches!

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    May 31st 2015, 6:05 PM

    All this picture does is remind us of how far he has fallen. From a man of the people to the man who signed away the resources of this generation and all others to follow in this country.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:49 PM

    totally mind blowing. he has been cut down to size of late.

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    Mute MK76
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    May 31st 2015, 5:25 PM

    Do explain Noreen?

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    May 31st 2015, 5:54 PM

    That footwear, though.

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    May 31st 2015, 6:34 PM

    Michael D just dropped acid 45 minutes before the pic was taken. He is smiling thinking of the night ahead.

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    May 31st 2015, 4:50 PM

    you have to love a guy who live on a tv presidential debate when asked if he ever smoked cannabis he answer ‘yes and i inhaled’ with a smile. the guy has an instant likability that crosses political divides.

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    May 31st 2015, 5:34 PM

    *You*answered*I*The;)My own grammar is crap,Pattyjoejoe ;)

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    May 31st 2015, 6:10 PM

    Is there a spliff in his right hand?

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    May 31st 2015, 4:15 PM

    General consensus among baboons obviously

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    May 31st 2015, 8:37 PM

    Why is it an “amazing” Photo??? What’s so different to any other photo??

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    May 31st 2015, 10:45 PM

    That’s where I lost my flip flops

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    May 31st 2015, 10:39 PM

    Comin up like a rocket

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    May 31st 2015, 9:45 PM

    Jeez, is that Queen Elizabeth standing behind him?

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    May 31st 2015, 8:39 PM

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    May 31st 2015, 9:25 PM

    I wonder did he see anything or did he spend all his time jumping up and down trying to look over peoples heads

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    May 31st 2015, 10:33 PM

    Jees, he’s nearly as bad as joe brollys description of the cavan football team. How old was he back then, about 55 was it!

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