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WE’VE BEEN COUNTING for 72 hours but there are still six seats to be filled after the 2016 general election.
We’re expecting some more drama today with counting still underway in three constituencies across the country. Stick with us as we bring you news of who’s in and who’s out of the 32nd Dáil.
First off, here’s a quick recap:
It’s Sinéad O’Carroll here, by the way, to keep you updated throughout the morning.
We’ll have someone in the RDS shortly to report back about the number of paper cuts on counters’ fingers, the volume of energy drinks consumed and the very real possibility that junior minister Aodhán Ó Ríordáin could lose his seat.
If you’re still out there and reading, please get in touch in the comments section, by email (sinead@thejournal.ie) or on Twitter @sineadocarroll
It’s not quite Super Tuesday this side of the pond but we’re hoping to bring you some final news from Longford-Westmeath, Dublin Bay North and Dublin South Central today.
Let’s head back over to Dublin now to get an update on Dublin South Central.
This is the one that could drag as Fianna Fáiler Catherine Ardagh’s team has already brought up the c-word: COURT.
But for now, we’re waiting until noon for the returning officer to announce how many invalid votes were spotted in the 170 disputed ones.
Stay tuned for that in a few hours.
So let’s run through what’s happening in each of the three constituencies. First up, Longford-Westmeath.
We eventually got ex-Fianna Fáiler and now-Independent Alliance councillor Kevin ‘Boxer’ Moran elected on the 13th count last night.
BUT… (Obviously there’s a but in this election).
James Bannon, the Fine Gael TD has been granted a recount. If nothing changes, it looks like Fine Gael’s Peter Burke and Sinn Féin’s Paul Hogan will take the third and fourth seats.
That leaves Willie Penrose out in the cold which is terrible news for Labour.
And last but not least, the Group of Death in Dublin Bay North.
Lots of Power puns were available to reporters tweeting away from the RDS as Averil was eliminated after a long recheck. She was joined in the dark by AAA-PBP second-time candidate John Lyons.
The Haughey dynasty was revitalised with the election of Charlie’s son Seán on count 14 with 12,745 votes (483 over quota).
He joins Richard Bruton who was elected way back on Saturday.
So the state of play right now? Independents Finian McGrath and Tommy Broughan are fighting with Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell and Labour’s Aodhán Ó Ríordáin for the last three seats.
Transfers from John Lyons will probably be more friends to the indos and Mitchell, meaning AOR and Labour could be in serious trouble.
Nail-biting stuff really.
(Yes, I’m very fond of a Britney gif. Deal.)
Some lols going on below the line here….
We’ve heard a lot about the flirtin’, dancin’ and the courtin’ that will go on between political parties over the next few weeks as they try to cobble together a government, a ‘programme for parliament’ or whatever Micheál Martin was talking about last night.
Geography student Rob McDonnell writes for us today, saying if the parties backtrack on promises about who they would or would not do deals with, he’ll be really rather annoyed.
You can see the dilemma with how the seats are working out. Remember, the magic number – as they say – is 79 for a majority.
Time for a recap, right?
Nicky Ryan has one for you, set to suitably dramatic tunes.
This just came in from a Damian Moylan in Longford. He is disappointed with the likely outcome in Longford-Westmeath. He writes:
One problem we do have is Longford. It now looks like not one TD in Dail Eireann from Co. Longford which is really bad news for what already is a disadvantaged town and an unemployment blackspot.
It seems inevitable that Longford cannot elect a single TD beacuse Longford is part of the larger Longford-Westmeath area. The larger population areas outside Longford invariably means that candidates from Longford simply cannot compete.
If we value democracy it would seem necessary to create a Longford constituency so that we could elect candidate TD’s from the area.
Longford, already disadvantaged in so many ways needs a voice in Dáil Eireann.
Cianan Brennan has arrived at the RDS where John Lyons’s 8,476 votes are now being distributed among the final contenders.
(I’m going to run out of ‘nail-biting’ gifs, aren’t I?)
Last night’s Claire Byrne Live/Amárach Research poll asked the all important question – Micheál or Enda.
Most of you said neither.
Here’s Cianan Brennan‘s take on things in Dublin Bay North from the RDS.
Today, after nearly four days of non-stop counting, everyone seems wrung out. Shane Ross is here, and has more pep in his step than pretty much the rest of the huge room combined. But then he was elected on the second count in Dublin Rathdown three days ago.
The word about the place is that Labour’s Aodhán Ó Riordáin is in big trouble. He doesn’t have it in him to deny it. If truth be told he looks like a ghost, defeated and tired.
“I wouldn’t be confident to be honest with you,” he tells TheJournal.ie.
“It’s not looking good, we would have hoped for more transfers than we have gotten from Averil Power to be honest. When the tide goes out, it goes out you know? It’s a credit to the campaign that we’ve held on as long as we have.”
There’s something approaching solidarity now between those who remain – Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath, Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell and Labour’s Ó Riordáin. They’ve all been through the mill for four hard days. Mitchell calls to McGrath by name. He shares a word with Ó Riordáin, then gives us a minute as he wanders nervously about the hall.
The count is expected to happen before 1pm.
“I’m so nervous. It’s cruel, really cruel,” McGrath tells us.
“My stomach is in bits from too much of this,” he says, gesturing to his coffee. ”If I take the seat I’ll be absolutely over the moon to be honest with you.”
Mitchell is relatively upbeat. She’s in a good position and she knows it. She chats away in a tired, happy fashion with Sinn Féin MEP Lynn Boylan.
I think we’re going to do it, we’re confident. It looks that way. It’s been such a long campaign, I mean we were initially aiming for November and that’s when we peaked, and now it’s three months further along. But I think we’re going to do it, but who can say for certain?
Tommy Broughan is a little more inscrutable. “It’s hard to say how we’ll do – it’s all a little bit…” and he waves his hands up and down in the universal sign for “it’s all up in the air”.
Look who has arrived at the RDS…
Yes, that’s deputy Labour leader Alan Kelly up from Tipp to support his colleague.
No sign of Joan Burton yet.
And more from Cianan in the RDS where the reporters – many of whom have been holed up there for going on 76 hours now – just need something. ANYTHING.
“The entire media just descended on Kelly expecting something as he stared at his phone. He waited 40 seconds, then looked up and said “no folks, nothing to see here”. Cue collective breath exhalation.”
We managed to get a grainy snap though.
Oh dear.
A count is imminent in Dublin Bay North.
Repeat. A count is imminent in Dublin Bay North.
Looks like the bad news will be confirmed for Ó Riordáin.
WE HAVE WINNERS!!!
(AND A LOSER)
Aodhán Ó Ríordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North. Losing out to Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell.
WE HAVE WINNERS!!!
(AND A LOSER)
Aodhán Ó Ríordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North. Losing out to Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell.
So here’s what we’ve ended up with in Dublin Bay North.
That’s one Fine Gael (Bruton), one Fianna Fáil (Haughey), one Sinn Féin (Mitchell) and two independents (Broughan and McGrath).
Some snippets from the RDS and Dublin Bay North, which is seeing the most action of the past 76 hours right now.
In one corner, Sinn Féin supporters are belting out “Oró sé do bheatha bháile”.
In the other, an extremely disappointed Ó Ríordáin is giving an interview to RTÉ Radio One for the one o’clock news.
He has said:
[I am] very disappointed, it wasn’t to be, just want to thank all my supporters and everyone who voted for me.
Meanwhile, Finian McGrath is “absolutely delighted” and Denise Mitchell takes the opportunity to get another dig in with regard Irish Water:
The people have shown this Fine Gael government where to go, and they can take their water charges with them.
It’s emptied out pretty quickly in the RDS.
Here, have you forgotten about Dublin South Central?
They’re still not finished there either..
The decision AAA-PBP’s Bríd Smith refers to will be key to whether her election will be confirmed after a recheck.
The returning officer will announce how many of the 170 disputed votes will be declared invalid.
Ó Ríordáin has congratulated his fellow candidates and paid tribute to his team.
Meanwhile, in Longford, a second recount is still going on. It was granted at the request of James Bannon who has the party’s legal counsel Kevin O’Higgins with him in the count centre.
According to Shannonside FM:
This recount was requested last night by Fine Gael Deputy James Bannon who was apparently told last night that the result of the 13th count and the distribution of Kevin Boxer Moran’s surplus has resulted in him being two votes behind Willie Penrose.
The local station has said this could easily go into day five.
Yep, we can do that.
No matter what team you’re on – or if you’re even on a team, it’s never that pretty seeing someone lose.
These lads have more than a cúpla focail according to Irish language news site Tuairisc.ie
How the counters are feeling now…
We’re hearing from the RDS that we’ll have news on Dublin South Central very soon but I’m going to take this lull to hand you over to my colleague Christina Finn to take you through the next couple of hours.
Hopefully, we won’t be going into Day Five of the #ge16 count.
Christina Finn here to take you through the next few hours. Almost there now folks.
We’re waiting on the final adjudication on Dublin South Central where AAA-PBP’s Bríd Smith is locked in a legal quagmire with Fianna Fáil’s Catherine Ardagh.
Everyone seems to be waiting with bated breath at Dublin South Central.
You can’t blame them, it’s been a long four days. At this stage, everyone is feeling a little like this:
Meanwhile, our reporter Cianan Brennan was down at the Dublin Bay North count when it all came to an end (though some wondered if that would ever be the case).
After days of waiting around for a result, suddenly there was a flurry of activity and it was all done. He said the whole scene was bedlam.
There’s a whole lot of sitting going on down at the RDS at the moment.
I really wish they would just play this over the speakers down there. Give the people what they want. A solid tune.
You would want to be living under a rock if you haven’t heard all the discussions about who is going to join up and form the next government.
As it stand, we have Fine Gael at 49 seats and Fianna Fáil at 44. But, who knows what the outcome is going to be?
Rob O’Donnell writes for TheJournal.ie today that he has a serious problem with political parties saying one thing and doing another once the election is over and the votes are in.
By my judgement, representation and old-school cloak and dagger politics are incompatible. Yes, I am willing to accept that political parties naturally have an overwhelming preference to govern as the only stakeholder in a majority government, but the plurality of the current political landscape just doesn’t allow for it.
It is the responsibility of these parties to respect the mandate the electorate have given them and to do their absolute best to govern.
Do you agree with his point? Read more of his article here>
A very good question. Day five? Really? Sigh.
A spokesperson for the European Commission has told TheJournal.ie that it thought it was best to delay a report which criticises the level of public sector investment in Ireland until after the election.
Now, it doesn’t look like there will be an announcement in Dublin South Central for some time. I’m going to hand you over to our reporter Aoife Barry to take you through the next couple of hours.
Let’s hope they get a move on.
Aoife Barry here on the liveblog with you now – still waiting on results from two centres, Dublin South Central and Longford.
Things are dragging on a bit…
There’s not much happening, but everyone is talking about the Longford-Westmeath count, according to Google Trends:
Some other political news – Ivana Bacik has just announced she’s running for the Seanad:
Here’s the latest update from the Longford-Westmeath count:
Our own Cianan Brennan is down at the Dublin South Central count, and has been chatting to Bríd Smith.
She’s told him she has no idea when this process finishes, and when it does she thinks there’s a very good chance it’ll be taken the legal route
I’m tired, emotional, angry, hopeful, optimistic… it changes all the time, this has just gone on so long
“The adjudication officer made her decision on the 170 contentious votes that have ground this count to an utter halt,” reports Cianan. “But now the returning officer is going through every possible permutation of those votes. When he’ll finish, no-one knows.”
“But don’t be expecting it any time soon… this looks very much like dragging into a fifth day and possibly beyond.”
Just one vote in it between Willie Penrose and James Bannon…
Ciara Conway is packing up her office, and there’s something poignant about this tweet:
Putting it all into perspective…
Just to recap, the full recount was requested by Fine Gael TD James Bannon, and began at 10.30am today.
It’s a very tight count so far, and still thousands of votes yet to be recounted.
We have some movement in Dublin South Central – but it’s not happening in public:
A Soc Dems update for you – they got three seats in the election. Now they’ve circulated their document on political reform:
Another update from Cianan Brennan who’s at the Dublin South Central count:
Bríd Smith has won the seat.
We’ll have some more updates and video with you in a moment.
Before this year, Bríd Smith had unsuccessfully contested four general elections, starting in 1997.
She has waited 18 years, 8 months and 25 days for her first win – the longest of anyone in the new Dáil.
Bríd Smith said after her win:
Fianna Fáil said water charges are a red line issue, well they’d better bloody well follow through on that.
We will make sure they stick to that, me and Richard
She added:
Labour, we’re as big as you now, don’t forget it.
I promise to do my damnedest to represent you and if I don’t sure you can shoot me.
‘The workers, united, will never be defeated.’
It’s been a long time coming, both in terms of years running and now days counting, but Bríd Smith is now officially a TD.
Here’s the moment herself and hr supporters deservedly celebrated.
You might be wondering when the first sitting of the 32nd Dáil takes place.
Well, it will convene at 10.30am on Thursday 10 March, and there will be two things on the agenda:
But will the make-up of the government be agreed on by then? Unlikely.
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Warehouse in Ireland please. Having to wait for parcels to ship from UK is not good enough.
Amazons high tech jobs are based in Dublin. The companies warehouses are based in Britain. It’s cheaper than Ireland.
Yeah that 1 day prime service is shocking! If I order something now I won’t have it until tomorrow ffs!
Amazon consider Ireland as part of the UK geographicaly for business reasons while for delivery reasons they consider NI and The Republic to be the same.I worked there and it used to provide endless hours of fun trying to explain the situation to idiot ‘nationalists and unionists’ who would take offence to this.Then added to that for tax they are registered in Lux.Most likely they will open a hub here at some point but most items will still have to come from the UK. There just isn’t the population here to justify a warehouse system big enough to hold 17m items.
More people out of a job
“hiring 80,000 seasonal workers to meet the coming onslaught of holiday orders.”
are they? some might be out of a job running around the floor picking items. but someone has to look after the robots, repair them and even build them so jobs are created as well.
Simon,that’s a very short term view.
how so. remember back in the 80′s when computers were being brought into the office and work place and we were all supposed to be out of jobs?
Simon, they are doing a physical job that only people could do. You can be very sure that any of these working in these huge spaces will have a very long lifespan unlike anything that will be for sale in the future in PC World etc for the home.
Did you actually read the article?
” They are doing a physical job that only people could do” — bit of a contradiction there
I work in this area (electrical / mechanical IT support) if they have 3000 robots then they need a good load of people to back them up. I would very much doubt that 3000 people were let go to be replaced by 3000 machines.
Machines that run for 24 hours a day need weekly / monthly PM’s. Software upgrades, cleaning and replacing. so while they have a long life span they are continually being looked after unlike your house hold appliances that only get service when they break down,
Support jobs are also much better paid than picking jobs. And at the end of the day, shouldn’t we be using robots and machines to do the more mundane tasks and upgrading our human work force for the better.
Simon the robots will become self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th and repair themselves. Only a matter of time.
Jason,Simon. The PEOPLE that did this job last year are highly unlikely to be be servicing these robots. They have most likely been told that there is no work for them. Not everyone has the capacity to up skill. Amazon and those who follow them have not got the welfare of their seasonal workers in mind and are not trying impress ye, they have long term wage bill reductions driving this practice.
Its called progress….
Jesusdittyfcukinchrist they took are jobs !
To help the employees, who are they kidding. To CUT THE WAGE BILL.
PR*cks
Johnny 5
Irish Water is currently drafting up an army of robots in the form of precision electronic meters to “help” distribute something which is of a basic right.
Correction: “help” control something which is of a basic right.
Ffs, read this so as not to hear about IW, not everything should be brought back to water. Getting very boring now.
My thoughts exactly.
What are your thoughts, pray tell?
I am thinking he was just missing an ellipses…
His thoughts are centred around precision.
With everything getting automated and a growing world population, what happens when there aren’t enough jobs for everybody? A genuine question….maybe we will be starship troopers.
have your say