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'A lot of young Irish people don't see a future': Blindboy gives powerful interview about suicide

The Rubberbandits member spoke about the suicide epidemic in Ireland.

BLINDBOY BOATCLUB HAS given a powerful interview about mental health in Ireland.

The Rubberbandits member appeared on Channel 4 News this evening.

He spoke about the suicide epidemic Ireland is facing as the country commemorates the Easter Rising centenary.

“I only want to have a bit of craic, but I end up always finding myself in situations where I become a voice of reason. I shouldn’t be.

“Rather than looking, going ‘Why is the man in the bag making sense?’, you go ‘Why is the man in the suit not making sense?’
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153619815761939/

“My generation, we’re old enough to remember the Celtic Tiger, but we’re massively affected by the recession. Our 20s were stolen from us, pretty much.

Young Irish people, the suicide amongst them is massive. Huge amounts of suicide, jumping into rivers, and emigration and a lot of young Irish people, they don’t see a future.

Speaking of 1916, Blindboy said: “It’s weird to look back at these lads that were our age, these men and women that were our age trying to forge a future and now we’re in a situation where we don’t see a future but we don’t even know who our enemy is.”

Last month Blindboy’s video on Des Bishop’s election special went viral, sparking an important discussion about mental health.
https://www.facebook.com/TheRubberbandits/videos/10153855579047200/

  • Samaritans 116 123 or email jo@samaritans.org
  • Console 1800 247 247 – (suicide prevention, self-harm, bereavement)
  • Aware 1800 80 48 48 (depression, anxiety)
  • Pieta House 01 601 0000 or email mary@pieta.ie - (suicide, self-harm)
  • Teen-Line Ireland 1800 833 634 (for ages 13 to 19)
  • Childline 1800 66 66 66 (for under 18s)

Read: The Rubberbandits on mental health in Ireland really struck a chord

Read: Blindboy from The Rubberbandits absolutely nailed it on the Late Late last night

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    Mute Seán Ó Briain
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:51 PM

    We say we want to change the situation about mental health. But in my experience – most people who aren’t affected by it rarely go beyond token gestures.

    The sad reality for most people struggling is that they’ll receive apathy from their doctor, and a bottle of pills. If you’re lucky and have money, you’ll be able to afford a good counsellor who will help you with the likes of CBT. For others, they could be waiting a while to see a counsellor – and even at that, it’s still never enough to combat this illness. Most people struggling with depression feel lost, and they don’t really know what to do about it.

    Yeah, you can tell people to go to support groups – but for a lot of people, the mere idea of sitting down with strangers is a horrifying experience. It just isn’t that easy when you feel uncomfortable in your own skin. And so many people who have depression, don’t even know it. I thought it was normal to feel down and empty. Just “one of those days”, which came around far too often for my comfort. It was an endocrinologist who told me I needed to get help. Not my GP, not the array of health specialists I’ve see in the past decade. An endocrinologist.

    All the support and pills in the world still won’t end the pain for so many people. Until we take mental health as serious as physical health, we’ll never really overcome it. I’m only 33, and I know way too many people who have taken their own life at my age than I should. I’ve watched the system fail people, and fail them horrifically.

    I get tired posting about this issue, because every year that passes – we’re still not making any progress.

    Some advice. Don’t tell someone to cheer up. We can’t flick a switch. Don’t say stupid things like “Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem”. Depression isn’t a temporary problem, it’s a life-long problem.

    Text a friend if they’ve been awol for a few months. If they don’t leave their house much, it’s for a reason.

    And most importantly – be kind.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:57 PM

    Sean..thank you.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:07 PM

    Thank you Sean o Brian because you understand. People try their best but don’t get it.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:42 PM

    Very well said. For all the empathy at best, and the disregard at worst, the situation can only hope to change when mental health is considered as important as physical. Unfortunately certain preconceptions continue to ensure that will not happen anytime soon

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    Mute Denise Daly
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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:12 AM

    That’s stigma Suzanne. A person can have a masters degree in science but if they have anxiety or depression and is struggling then they are mentally weak.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:33 PM

    “We don’t even know who our enemy is” what a powerful statement.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:40 PM

    When the people you vote for, end up not representing you….the feeling of betrayal and powerlessness is bitter.

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    Mute Johnny
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:55 PM

    Well said Al

    When you have a dysfunctional political system, which we have, we end up with dysfunctional all the way through our services.

    Dysfunctional Police Service – Check (despite some excellent guards)
    Dysfunctional Health Service – Check
    Dysfunctional Legal Sector – Check (hence all the people with multiple convictions)
    Dysfunctional Transport System – Check
    Dysfunctional Education System – Check (too many students in portocabins)

    We also have an unhealthy wealth divide, which is at its most obvious in Dublin/Cork and Limerick.

    It’s no wonder we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:32 PM

    God that’s a depressing assessment. He’s right though their 20′s have been robbed. I’m kind of lucky in that when I went to college there was an unbelievable buzz around the country. The youth of this country have been well and truly sacrificed

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    Mute Good Early
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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:37 PM

    The right wing of Goldman Sachs et al: the European Peoples Party (EU) Fine Gael, Labour, Fianna Fail and a few Independents are the enemy of the ordinary people

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:27 AM

    Willie O Dea!

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    Mute Mike Hall
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    Mar 25th 2016, 10:36 AM

    Well… one major enemy of the ordinary citizens, and especially our youth, are the charlatans of the mainstream macro economics academe who have presided over a system which is guaranteed to produce economic instability and mass unemployment. (Most especially in the Eurozone, with around twice the unemployment of any comparable economies.)

    Essentially, pandering to intellectual fraud and taking over where religious orders left off.

    Let me just explain one thing….

    In a system that uses a fiat currency, produced from thin air, by definition, there can NEVER be a shortage of *finance* to stimulate economic growth and provide (near) full employment.

    The ONLY constraint, to avoid an inflationary spiral, is that there must be sufficient available real resources – labour and materials – at the moment of the transaction (spending).

    Which means, by definition, there need NEVER be anyone unemployed, who need not be. A – strictly voluntary (no slave labour coercion) – Job Guarantee, at the bottom of the ‘market’, with one weekly weekly ‘minimum wage’ rate, working at social and community tasks, could be available to any who want it.

    This would be especially beneficial to the younger people who disproportionately bear the brunt of job losses in an economic downturn.

    And not just at ‘no cost’ to a anyone, but in fact with a two fold benefit to all of us.

    The economic stimulus effect of new spending into a recessionary part of the economic cycle, which will help to restore ‘normal’ private sector activity and jobs. (In the macro economics jargon, an ‘automatic stabiliser’ effect.)

    Secondly, a social benefit of the JG labour giving a helping hand to community projects that we might not consider ‘affordable’ during periods of strong ‘normal’ private sector labour demand.

    There is only one reason this sensible recognition and use of the actual monetary and macro economic system (with fiat money), that we already have, is not utilised in this way – POLITICAL WILL. There is no other barrier.

    And that lack of political will is born of a deeply fraudulent system of ‘democracy’ that instead of representing the majority interests of the citizens – the labour class – actually exclusively represents the interests of the minority Capital owning class.

    A Capital owning class who have moved mountains in order to keep the masses from realising that *money* in a system of fiat, free floating currencies, created by governments’ decree on Central Bank computers, can NEVER be in short supply. EVER.

    In such a system, the constraint is always REAL RESOURCE availability for purchase. Nothing else.

    For those interested, this is explained by MMT economics, with a body of academic development work going back many decades, as far back as the 1920s at least. (Tho’ ‘free floating’ fiat currencies were not adopted in US and Europe etc. until the Bretton Woods post war fixed exchange rate treaty collapsed in 1971.)

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:46 PM

    This guy’s walking down a street when he falls in a hole. The walls are so steep, he can’t get out. A doctor passes by, and the guy shouts up, “Hey you, can you help me out?” The doctor writes a prescription, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a priest comes along, and the guy shouts up “Father, I’m down in this hole, can you help me out?” The priest writes out a prayer, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a friend walks by. “Hey Joe, it’s me, can you help me out?” And the friend jumps in the hole. Our guy says, “Are you stupid? Now we’re both down here.” The friend says, “Yeah, but I’ve been down here before, and I know the way out.”

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    Mute FrontRowBrian®
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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:50 PM

    OMG that’s so deep. I kried xoxoxo

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:52 PM

    Hmm!

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:20 AM

    Frontrowbrian, for a moment I thought you were being sincere, until I found an earlier one of your posts I thought I’d seen in another article.

    I realise that you are just another keyboard knob.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 5:01 AM

    Sadly Brian, for some the only way out is down and out, either literally or figuratively.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:03 AM

    Excellent Dave. Thank you!!

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    Mute Charles Williams
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    Mar 25th 2016, 1:30 AM

    Its pretty sad that on the centenary of the Rising a comedian has to go on Channel 4 to highlight suicide in Ireland.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 3:01 AM

    He didn’t have to. The brits are paying him top dollar so he said he might as well. Kinda a 1up on them for hundred years ago.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 9:46 AM

    It’s nothing new, sure when Vincent Brown was tearing Mario Draghi a new one over the bailout in Dublin a few year ago RTE felt what whole country really needed to see and hear was Dobbo (on €195,000 per year!) back in Donnybrook studios, meanwhile anybody that have a damn about the truth had to switch from OUR national station we’re ALL supposed to pay €160 a year for (even if we don’t own a fuppin TV!) and instead tune into the BBC news live to catch the awkward squirming Draghi insult us all on our soil!!

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    Mute Ronan McDermott
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    Mar 25th 2016, 5:39 PM

    Great point. I was watching that and noticed how rte just pulled the plug. Was strange so switched to sky news and saw the rest of it

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:32 PM

    It’s not only young people taking their lives it’s older men who make up the biggest group to take such an awful decision. Please focus on all victims of this epidemic not just one age group

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:42 PM

    Every life is equally important but the reason people focus on younger males is because most statistics show that they are the higher risk and the most likely to commit suicide.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:49 AM

    No they’re not …older men are

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:10 PM

    Blindboy is very intelligent,insightful and funny thats why the rubberbandits are on channel four.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:17 PM

    i also blame people, society, begrudgers, competitive streak grown from recession is worse now. theres some amount of bullying going on in this country, for men, women, young and old, not just child bullying. they have no idea the affect they have on people with their behaviour. what counsellor or pill resolves that when theres nothing done about it for adults but just laughed at or avoided?

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:47 PM

    Defiantly agree with this. Its a real problem in big town communities and Small towns. The Adult bulling thats around is crazy. People can just gang up on someone and there could be a host of vicous rumers going around about them in no time at all. So childish but it affects people in terrible ways.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:55 PM

    The man speaks well. Simple and effective. Bag gives a sense of mystery. Channel 4 can’t get enough.

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    Mute Dave John Pious Byrne
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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:05 PM

    Investing in Mental health will only cost the government money there is no means to profit from it hence a delayed uninterested reaction. Road deaths allowed there to be a measurable income via penalty points system and NCT and improving car worthiness and it has been successful in decreasing deaths massively while turning a profit..need to accept mental health is simply something you have to give up and offer

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    Mute sparky
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:39 PM

    What a load of complete waffle..keep the bag on..suicide was around long before the celtic tiger..

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:42 PM

    But it’s increased which may be the point you are missing or deigning……

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    Mute Karl Sullivan
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:43 PM

    Really? Tell me more you complete and utter troll

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:46 PM

    Kerry has it..it’s just spoken about more.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:26 PM

    There are more suicides than car accidents now. Accidents just happen..but our own taking their own lives, that does not just happen. We need to be more open about this. We need to stop it

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    Mute Vincent Wallace
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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:42 PM

    It sure was Sparky. Nothing was done about it then and nothing is been done about it now. Speaking about it is a good thing. Maybe you think we should just be Men about it and dig our heads in the sand is it?

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:42 AM

    No not at all Vincent. But they related suicide to the celtic tiger in this article. That’s my point..it’s deeper than that .

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:52 AM

    There are lots of people battling with depression for many reasons sparky and believe me I know suicide was around long before the celtic tiger, but maybe he is just expressing the circumstances that he sees contributing to young people’s reasons for losing a sense of any kind of hope or chance for them in the future? In honesty I’m not sure he is right as I really think that each and every person has specific reasons and it isn’t necessarily to do with a national outlook or economical situation. Though the national economical situation has certainly played a part in denying people the help they need to battle it. Or rather now our society has an economical excuse to ignore people who need help. I’ve lived with this condition for as long as I remember but for the first 25 years or so I assumed all people felt this all consuming emptiness and bleakness that I felt so strongly that I could barely function. I’ve found ways to manage it, sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t, when they don’t I just battle on knowing that everything changes, even this and so this too shall pass.

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    Mute Mike Hall
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    Mar 25th 2016, 10:43 AM

    Look, pea brain ‘sparky’, there exists a century or more of research data that ALL shows a substantial increase of all social ills resulting from the pressures of economic recession/depression, including suicides.

    Those are the facts.

    Does suicide exist at other times – yes it does. Is it increased by poverty level economic pressures? Yes, absolutely.

    So who’s agenda are persuing here trying to tell people lies? Or are you just stupid and couldn’t be bothered to look for any evidence about it before commenting?

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:23 AM

    “We don’t even know who our enemy is”… The problem of today’s young people, the legacy of corruption.. Brilliantly put.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 10:22 AM

    We are the enemy. We are the ones who vote for politicians incapable of doing the job they put themselves up for. A decade of bad polices implemented by incompetent politicians.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:33 PM

    @John Kinsella: Then run for election. You have that right.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:39 PM

    People say it’s our fault for voting them in, it’s other people’s faults for not voting. Voting genuinely makes no difference any more. The game is rigged against us. There’s only two ways to go, if you ask me. Either we accept the reality of this new kind of feudal system, or we take it down. People are too afraid of the chaos and economic ramifications there would be in the aftermath, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs. It’s high time we grew balls and ovaries, and pulled the plug.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 9:47 AM

    We have Blindboy, Brezzie, and so many others talking about suicide and mental health… but nothing really changes in terms of services in Ireland for young people with mental health issues.

    It’s a ****ing disgrace.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:00 AM

    Blind Boy says nothing to me about my life. A total charlatan.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:39 AM

    Wow,that’s not self certification tried at all

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:40 AM

    Reported my own comment for autocorrect errors. Meant to call you self centred

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    Mar 25th 2016, 10:22 AM

    Myself and 12 lads are driving g 5 landrover defenders from galway to Norway for pieta house idonate to galwaytonorway if you can thx

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    Mar 25th 2016, 5:09 AM

    This insane plastic Supervalu bag over the head is utterly ridiculous and always has been, just take it off and have yourselves taken more seriously on sensitive topics like suicide.

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Mar 25th 2016, 6:03 AM

    No, because the “insane plastic bag” allows him to decide when he talks. If he didn’t have the bag he’d be pestered morning, none and night. It’s like the old school ‘on air’ sign at a radii station. Also it’s quite possible that he has anxiety issues.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 9:16 AM

    I didnt notice the bag, I was listening to what he was saying …

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    Mar 25th 2016, 11:42 AM

    As a twenty something I’ve had 5 former classmates take their own lives and half of those left emigrated. Many others vanished off the radar, I wonder how many are struggling with depression. It was always something I accepted as a normal part of growing up though hearing the likes of blindboy raising it helps me realise how the experience of this generation has been anything but and it shouldn’t be so readily accepted by society.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 2:16 PM

    …”we don’t see a future and we don’t even know who our enemy is.”
    .. ‘enemy’ .. how about “apathy” – ticking the wrong box in the Polling Booth or not even arsed to go and vote – 40% dont! Ireland is not a functioning Democracy (100 yrs later) evidenced by repeated crashes and 300,000 thrown overboard to OZ, Canada etc. Next time bring your brains to the Polling Booths.

    Ireland GDP €203 billion – 4.6 million supported by wealth created.
    Portugal GDP €203 billion – 10.3 million supported by wealth created.

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    Mar 26th 2016, 9:37 AM

    Have to say I was away for the hype and their musical
    Start but have listened to a few of his interviews, most notably with Scroobius Pip and his take on Irish society is bang on the money

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    Mar 25th 2016, 9:26 PM

    More suicides here in a few years compared to the conflict in N. Ireland and the government only says yes to Merkel, Troika and the IMF, WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT IGNORING THIS???

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