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Fox hunting on JobBridge? Joan Burton says her hands are tied

The minister says once it’s legal it’s fair game.

FOX HUNTING IS not illegal and is therefore a valid place for a JobBridge intern to take a position, that’s according to Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton.

The minister’s statement comes after more than 1,500 people signed a petition to stop a JobBridge intern taking a position at the Waterford Hunt Foxhounds.

The position for ”first whipper-in” has since been removed and was not filled according to the Kilmacthomas-based hunt.

Following the controversy over the position, TDs Ruth Coppinger and Clare Daly both asked the minister to stop hunt organisations from using JobBridge.

But responding to their Dáil questions last week, Burton said that her department cannot stop hunt organisations from using JobBridge.

The minister said that, while some people may find hunting “objectionable”, the activity is not illegal. In this way, she compared hunting to gambling and the meat industry

“There are a range of occupations, including those in the hunt sports sector, that some people may find objectionable for one reason or another,” the minister said.

Other examples include aspects of the meat or fishing industry, or those related to gambling. In these cases as long as the occupation is valid, the activity is not illegal and the internship offered complies with the general terms and conditions of the JobBridge scheme the department cannot preclude it from availing of the JobBridge.

The chairman of the Waterford Foxhounds said the club had nothing to add to what they’ve previously stated on the matter, except for saying that the JobBridge ad was “completely above board”.

A whipper-in in fox hunting is an assistant to the huntsman. The primary role of the position is to keep the fox hounds involved in the hunt organised and focussed.

Fox hunting was banned in England in 2005 following pressure from animals rights groups but is still legal and practiced in Ireland.

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Speaking to TheJournal.ie about the issue, John Fitzgerald of the Campaign for the Abolition of Cruel Sports says that he thinks the public is ahead of politicians in wanting fox hunting banned.

Part of this, he says, is because politicians are afraid of losing votes in rural areas.

“Fox hunting, in our opinion, there’s no excuse for it,” Fitzgerald says.

It’s not pest control, if a farmer wants to control foxes, he could shoot them, in which case they would die instantly. Maybe shooting isn’t the best thing in the world but it’s a bit more humane, but fox-hunting with hounds doesn’t control, it’s just a form of entertainment.

Fitzgerald also says that Burton’s comparison of fox hunting with the meat industry doesn’t stack up.

“In the case of the meat industry, whatever objections there may be, the animals are killed instantaneously in the vast majority of cases, so it’s not quite the same.”

“Whereas in blood sports the kind of activities we’re talking about are banned in most EU countries and even beyond the EU.”

Read: Hundreds sign petition protesting against fox hunting internship on JobBridge >

Read: Anti-cruelty group calls for ‘appalling’ fox hunt blessings to end >

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:17 AM

    Hopefully France’s justice system is not like our own, or else these people will be back on the streets in time for evening prayers to their spaghetti monster.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:25 AM

    No worry they will just come up with a new one, they always do because
    French legislators react to each terrorist wave with the enactment of new laws.

    Four major counter-terror laws are the ones of 1986 (Law no. 86-1020 of 9 September), of 1996 (Law no. 96-647 of 22 July), of 2001 (Law no. 2001-1062 of 15 November), and of 2006 (Law no. 2006-64 of 23 January).

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:29 AM

    ‘Spaghetti monster…’ The mono-atheists are slowly building an irony-clad narrative.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:38 AM

    I’m actually agnostic. Atheism is just as illogical as theism.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 9:14 AM

    I presume you feel the same about people who don’t believe in unicorns?

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    Jan 16th 2015, 11:45 AM

    Im both Atheist and agnostic to both god and David Ikes theory of reptiles. The laws of physics show no intervening beings and the laws of probability states less complex things such as a universe are more likely to exist than more complex things such as universe creators. I cant prove that god or fish eating flying aliens dont exist but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 6:59 PM

    Do people who don’t believe in unicorns drone on about a superquinn sausage creature that lives in a field?

    Mono-atheists all cling to the same superfluous outline brought down from the coffee house on Samsung tablets.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 10:43 AM

    No wonder the JOurnal and other media did not show the Charlie Hedbo front page as this headline from elsewhere warns.
    ‘My husband is being lashed to death… they are killing him more every week’: Agony of wife of Saudi Arabian blogger who is being flogged 50 times every Friday for ‘insulting Islam’

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    Jan 16th 2015, 1:20 PM

    The journal did. Have a look. It’s still there.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:36 AM

    These people are going to feel pretty stupid when Elvis comes back to Earth and has a tussle with Thor in an MMA fixture in Croke Park.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 8:52 AM

    Anyone hear from Frank??

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    Jan 16th 2015, 9:36 AM

    That will be subject to license!

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    Jan 16th 2015, 9:41 AM

    Elvis doesn’t need the approval of your puny human laws, he is the law

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    Jan 16th 2015, 10:37 AM

    Frank’s getting probed by the lizard people and having his implanted chip updated! Normal numerology nonsense will continue shortly.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 3:15 PM

    do you not know what day it is today.. 16/01/2015 16-1 = 15 there is a 15 in 2015 coincidence or what.

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    Jan 17th 2015, 1:45 AM

    Frank and glen are having a Friday conspiracy movie night. Horgay is running the projector.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 10:15 AM

    September 2012, Barack Obama at the United Nations “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
    Showing the true colours pf the man who watched football instead of marching with the other major leaders . I wonder what our Islamofascist apparatchiks will have to comment about this signal to the various groups that he is so fond of?

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    Jan 16th 2015, 12:29 PM

    Nonsens, for example the Obama administration markedly stepped up the use of drones. Since Obama’s inauguration in 2009, the CIA has launched 330 strikes on Pakistan , his predecessor, President George Bush, conducted 51 strikes in four years. And in Yemen, Obama opened a new front in the secret drone war.

    Across Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia, the Obama administration has launched more than 390 drone strikes in t five years , eight times as many as were launched in the entire Bush presidency. These strikes have killed more than 2,400 people, at least 273 of them reportedly civilians.

    Under Obama’s presidency dronestrikes killed six times as many people as were under Bush.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 10:05 PM

    It is to be hoped that France will start to recover in the way that Norway recovered and was able to regain its balance and stability after its terrorist atrocity.

    The Paris attacks were atrocities, anyone complicit needs to be made accountable, but France needs to move on and avoid making hate figures of Muslims, with French Muslims accepting, as the vast majority do, that they live in a civic and secular republic.

    Polarisation of opinion and division between Muslims and nonMuslims will only serve the terrorist agenda.

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    Jan 16th 2015, 9:58 AM

    How do you say CIA in French?

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    Jan 16th 2015, 3:42 PM

    There is a saying that goes by–”He who burnt himself with hot soup blows also in the cold milk too .” Guess where it applies?

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