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Insanity: TDs will spend today doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result

Here’s everything you need to know about what’s happening in Irish politics right now…

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Everybody’s talking about

On the 10 March, the Dáil tried and – as everyone expected – failed to elect a Taoiseach with the leaders of the two largest parties failing to secure sufficient support from TDs. Enda Kenny resigned as Taoiseach, assumed a caretaker role, and Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil set about securing the support of independents.

Almost one month on, the Dáil sits later today and will try again to elect a Taoiseach. Everybody once again expects that no one will be successful. In fact it’s likely that, despite the courting, none of the independents will vote for Enda Kenny or Micheál Martin.

8/12/2015. Oireachtas Tree lights Neither of these two will become Taoiseach today. Sasko Lazarov Sasko Lazarov

In effect, TDs are doing the same thing over again and, while no one really expects a different result, it does bring to mind the famous Albert Einstein quote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

It’s only after the Dáil goes through the tedious formalities of today that the real business begins. Kenny and Martin are expected to meet this evening and finally things will step up a gear.  The reality of Dáil numbers means whichever of the two big parties forms the next government, they will need the support of the other.

How the two parties reach a deal is not clear, nor is the likely substance of that deal. If they don’t reach one there’ll be a second election. There will be areas of policy that they will find agreement on and, as we explored last night, that will have to include water. But don’t expect this to happen quickly. It’s 40 days since the election and we could conceivably be waiting another month for a government to emerge.

The agenda

  • 10am: It may still be a caretaker government, but the cabinet meets to discuss what’s likely to be relatively slim agenda.
  • 11.30am: The new cross-party Dáil committee on reform is to meet this morning to finalise some of the reforms to the way the house does its business.

  • Pre-Dáil sitting: Fine Gael will hold last minute talks with independents in a bid to secure votes for Enda Kenny. Labour’s parliamentary party is due to meet in Leinster House.
  • 2.30pm: The Dáil will immediately set about trying to elect a Taoiseach. Enda Kenny will be first, followed by Micheál Martin, and then Ruth Coppinger for AAA-PBP. Expect lots of voting and no Taoiseach at the end of it.
  • Afterwards: There will be statements on Dáil reform off the back of the morning committee meeting. These are due to run until 8.30pm.
  • 7pm: Kenny and Martin are due to hold their first face to face talks tonight.

Inside Leinster House 

Whenever the new government is formed it will need a chief whip, someone responsible for rounding up TDs to ensure they vote with the government. The role has been held by Wexford TD Paul Kehoe for the last five years but he’s not expected to retain it. It takes on new importance this time around given the next government will be operating with a smaller majority – or none – in what’s expected to be a reformed Dáil, with more of an input from opposition parties.

It’s by no means a foregone conclusion, but if Fine Gael leads that next government the names mentioned for the role include Dublin Bay South TD Eoghan Murphy and junior minister Simon Harris who’ve both been heavily involved in the party’s discussions with independents. It will be a thankless task to keep everyone onside and even more difficult if independents are involved.

27/3/2014. Nicky McFaddens Funerals Scenes Simon Harris and Eoghan Murphy are rumoured to be in contention for the role of government chief whip. Leo Varadkar probably isn't. Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

What the others are saying 

  • Fianna Fáil has committed to scrapping water charges within six months of taking office, according to the Irish Independent.
  • Meanwhile, the Irish Times says the party will examine a referendum on public ownership of the water system.
  • The Irish Independent also says that Labour leader Joan Burton is being warned not to enter government by her party.
  • Independent TDs have criticised Fine Gael’s document for a partnership government as a “cut and paste job” from the party’s manifesto according to the Irish Examiner.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:39 PM

    All the focus on Syria has distracted people from the fact that IS is now in Tunisia, Libya, Sinai in Egypt, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Stopping them is like playing whack-a-mole.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:50 PM

    May I know where did Bangladesh come from and what do you know about this country? Have you ever been there or any other Asian country?

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    Mar 7th 2016, 5:29 PM

    I was going to answer your first question but then you added two such stupid questions that it’s clear you’re not interested in the answer. Presumably your agenda is something along the lines of ‘only people who pass my test of knowledge of X country may comment on anything to do with it.’ Yawn.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 9:38 PM

    You are one of those living in a small country like Ireland and never been outside of your town. You can keep your answer to yourself, because I know you know nothing pathatic lonely guy.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:17 PM

    They really do hate their own more than us.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:49 PM

    No they don’t.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 7:31 PM

    “their own”, you are saying!? do you even know what you are talking about?

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:50 PM

    Religion of Peace at it again.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:28 PM

    Against other Muslims, showing yet again that tarring all muslims with the same brush is thick

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:54 PM

    In their eyes they’re not Muslims. They’re something worse. Apostates. Fit for slaughter and subjugation.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:16 PM

    Budget Travel are doing cheap deals, for summer breaks in Tunisia.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:43 PM

    Sun, sand, sea, and slaughter.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 7:42 PM

    Couldnt visit a nicer country and people, its a shame to see it degenerating in front of our eyes

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:18 PM

    Assumed it would be the Mormons causing trouble again till I saw the word jihad. If not for the constant reassurances that this sort of behaviour has nothing to do with Islam from NGOs and the like I might be led to believe that this carnage is fuelled by Muslim beliefs, in the manner those who keep conducting these attacks repeatedly tell us.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:26 PM

    Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are raging is the war of the islamic state, it is a war of all Muslims, but the Islamic state is spearheading it. ——-Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, leader of ISIS, May 2104.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:50 PM

    Kill the lot of them Jihadis..trying to turn Tunisia into a s*ithole just like Libya has been under their control.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:43 PM

    Take note minister of justice…this is how its done,train,equip,arm and preposition elite units KNOWING they are coming and not whinging afterwards that they didnt give your commissioner “intelligence” in advance.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:17 PM

    I blame SF for this.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:37 PM

    Don’t be silly, maybe in Colombia or Spain

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    Mar 7th 2016, 2:25 PM

    Can’t we all be friend s?

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:22 PM

    Tunisia..instead of hiding behind budget constraints,triple lock mechanisms,”smart policing”,political correctness dug almost 200k of real border and supplied their police and army with modern weaponry…thus,they won this one.feel stupid now francis??

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    Mar 7th 2016, 5:22 PM

    The British, Americans and French just could nt wait to overthrow Gaddafi, now they have created a new base for the jihadists even closer to home.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 5:28 PM

    Gaddafi could see it coming and they mocked and laughed at him…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZZvPlGCt_8

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