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"We're looking for a fair slice of the company we've helped build"

Luas drivers speak about their long-running dispute.

13/5/2016. Luas Drivers Strikes Disputes Luas drivers Neil Mac Donnell and Alan Kavanagh at Sandyford last week. Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie / Rollingnews.ie

‘WE’RE BECOMING MORE entrenched.’

The Luas strike has been going for 12 days over four months with two sides who seem to be moving farther apart.

And as the dispute goes on, the patience of an already restless public has started to wear even thinner.

But drivers mounting the picket at the Red Cow in Dublin yesterday insist they’re in it for the long-haul and that the public does have an interest in supporting their fight.

First off, Luas driver Eddie Jones argues that it’s not the public’s money they’re seeking a bigger share of.

“When the profits come in, they’ll take the profits and take them to France and we don’t get the money. People aren’t realising that,” he says of Luas operator Transdev.

Jones’ argument is one that’s put forward by many drivers on the picket-line yesterday.

7/5/2016. New Luas Cross City Works The Luas Cross City will mean more work for the drivers. Sam Boal Sam Boal

They contend that they’ve been a key part of the Luas success story over the past 12 years and want a bigger slice of the pie before further planned expansions come into play.

Longer lines out to Saggart and the Point are just two that have been been built since the Luas first start rolling in 2004. The Luas Cross City service is currently being laid down in central Dublin and longer trams are also in the pipeline.

“We’re looking for a fair slice of the company we’ve helped build,” says 12-year Luas driver Ben Watson.

For nearly 12 years people have been talking about how good the Luas is. It’s won awards for punctuality of trams, customer satisfaction. People globally say, ‘Brilliant, look at Luas in Dublin it’s brilliant.’ Gerry Madden arrived here six months ago and he makes it look like he’s been here 12 years.

Pretty much every single driver who spoke yesterday mentioned Transdev Ireland’s managing director by name and the dispute certainly feels a bit personal at this point.

IMG_2543 Luas drivers Ben Watson and Niall Cahill on the picket at the Red Cow. TheJournal.ie TheJournal.ie

Jonathan Somers agrees. He says he feels hurt by the company of late by being demonised in the media.

“The Luas has been running for 12 years and it’s been built on the drivers’ work ethic, and everything we’ve done we’ve done to promote it from the front line.”

We’ve made it a success. Hail, rain and snow, like back in 2010 and 2011 with the heavy snows. Coming in at three o’clock in the morning, driving down the M50 on your own in a car to get in and get people to work early in the morning.

Unseen 

It’s this unseen work that the drivers point to.

They say that their shifts start as early as 4am and finish as late as 1am with drivers rostered on 364 days a year. The 172 drivers also have to work every second weekend and the Bank Holiday days they work are repaid in the form of days in lieu.

Luas strike The empty Red Cow Luas stop. Niall Carson / PA Wire Niall Carson / PA Wire / PA Wire

These hours do nothing for work-life-balance, according to Jones.

“My daughter only proved it to me yesterday,” he says.

I came in on Monday morning and I brought my daughter to school. I went into work at 12pm and came home at 9.30pm, my daughter was in bed. I did the same thing the following morning and the day after. When I came home my daughter was in bed and I was in at nine o’clock the next morning. I didn’t even see my daughter for the best part of three days. I saw her for about an hour over three days.

He says that drivers aren’t looking for these hours to be reduced but that Transdev’s plan to move shifts from from nine hours to nine-and-a-half hours needs to be properly compensated.

IMG_2546 Yesterday was the 12th day day of strike action. TheJournal.ie TheJournal.ie

The drivers repeatedly say that they don’t want to be on strike but that they feel like they’ve little other option. They also argue that, with privatisation becoming more prevalent in the transport sector, the stand they’re taking is a worthwhile one for transport workers in Bus Éireann, Irish Rail and so on.

Watson points out that Transdev is planning to bid for Irish bus routes that are to be put out to tender.

Increases

In terms of what they are seeking, (a detailed breakdown is available here), it’s somewhat muddled after a Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) recommendation was rejected by the drivers.

That increase proposed an 18.7% rise over 33 months but the company is now saying that it will only talk to drivers if they’re on board with a 13% increase.

Sitting down at the table with a precondition of 13% would be a “humiliation”, according to one driver.

Read: FactCheck: Are Luas drivers really paid more than junior doctors? >

“Luas drivers are in resolution mode, we’ve been in resolution mode for some time now,” says driver Joe Carrick.

They are in humiliation mode. They want us to accept a deal lower than what the WRC recommended and they know our members aren’t going to accept that.

Carrick says that he wants the state’s industrial mechanisms to bring the parties to the table but that this won’t work if there are preconditions attached to it.

13/5/2016. Luas Drivers Strikes Disputes Empty tracks on the Luas Green Line. Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie / Rollingnews.ie

Simplistic

As drivers prepared for yesterday’s strike, the national media was discussing a suggestion from a Fine Gael councillor that the entire Luas system should be automated.

Such accusations have been thrown at the drivers since the dispute began, the notion that their job is ‘easy’ and therefore undeserving of a pay increase.

As every driver points out, the mechanics of the job is the smallest part of it. Staying alert and focused when you’ve been up since 3am and there are pedestrians and cyclists criss-crossing in front of you is the stressful bit.

“This is a health and safety job, people don’t understand it because they’re not doing it,” says driver Niall Cahill.

“They say it’s easy and maybe it’s easy when you’re trained up right,” according to another driver.

But mentally, driving a tram is very difficult and adding to the stress of people driving trams is not right.

IMG_2544 Luas drivers Eddie Jones and Jonathan Somers. TheJournal.ie TheJournal.ie

Other drivers make the comparison with motorists who may find it ‘easy’ to actually drive a car but mentally taxing on a four-hour car journey.

“People compare us to nurses and guards,” says Kevin Healy. “And yes that’s a very difficult job and a very responsible job and, of course, it takes much more training for what they do.

But in terms of our concentration levels, we have to be consistently on the ball. Now, you go out driving, we’re driving for three to three-and-a-half hours. And if you think about it, that’s like a drive down to Cork. Now think about having a break and having to drive back up again.

“If you’ve done that for four days in a row and you’ve been up out of your bed at five o’clock in the morning and you’ve kids on the road keeping you up and you’re not getting any sleep it becomes difficult.

A nurse, I know nurses are very busy but they may be able to stop for five minutes and have a chat or something, but we don’t have that. Every minute of our day is recorded and catalogued.

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Read: How did it come to this?: The many twists of the never-ending Luas strike >

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    Nov 12th 2015, 1:56 PM

    Anyone lose a trampoline,and a red setter,think they blew into our garden in the same gust.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:25 PM

    What color is the trampoline ?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:33 PM

    What colour is the Red Setter

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:57 PM

    Ginger

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:05 PM

    Nah, my tramp o’ lean is peroxide blonde

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:06 PM

    should’ve said “My tramp Eileen”

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:33 PM

    I hope the owner of the trampoline can get over the loss of it and that they can bounce back.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:45 PM

    Tramampoline! Trambopoline!

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    Tramampoline! Trabopoline!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:54 PM

    Well played Michelle
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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:36 PM

    Apparently it’s Met Eireann turn next time to name the storm.

    Suggestions?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:45 PM

    Tony

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:59 PM

    @ Paul …..good one!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:59 PM

    Anto

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    Nov 12th 2015, 5:19 PM

    Blue from the cold

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    Nov 13th 2015, 2:35 AM

    Storm Dessie Brady.

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    Nov 13th 2015, 9:09 AM

    Enda, a nice name for a storm

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    Nov 12th 2015, 1:57 PM

    To be renamed. AbiGALE?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:01 PM

    Breaking news: Wind is windy.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:33 PM

    News flash rain is wet :-)

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:01 PM

    Headlines: Gale is…..galey.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:52 PM

    Water isnt ‘wet’ I was corrected on this before. Its your bodies response to it or some shiz like that

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:37 PM

    Most informative thread ever!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 5:37 PM

    An item with water on it is wet. Water doesn’t wet itself. Be funny if it did.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:33 PM

    That thing about Ryanair won’t bother me, I’ve got my own plane like.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:38 PM

    Like what? What’s your own plane like?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:50 PM

    No need to act like a smart ar5e like.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 5:34 PM

    I wasn’t Luke like, you know what I mean, like.

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    Nov 13th 2015, 9:10 AM

    I c u are selling Vale de Lobo Denis, short of a few bob?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:09 PM

    Just came up the road from Donegal to Cavan for the NCT and it is brutal up here! Fingers crossed we pass!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:24 PM

    Hope there’s no dog hair in the car!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:34 PM

    Wouldn’t you say, down the road??

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:39 PM

    Your right Cavan is brutal….

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:44 PM

    Both Donegal and Cavan are brutal.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:29 PM

    Ah Frank, Donegal is grand. Some beautiful scenery about there.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 5:34 PM

    What is the point of Cavan at all?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:02 PM

    And the weather service has warned us to brace ourselves for the onslaught of Storm Abigail. And if you think naming a destructive storm after a woman is sexist, you obviously have never seen the gals grabbing for items at a clearance sale.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:07 PM

    It’s true, but he shouldn’t say it

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    Nov 12th 2015, 1:58 PM

    Got caught in a downpour and nearly blown from the footpath to the middle of the road! Take care out there

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:52 PM

    Socrates, you’d better anchor your barrel tightly, or you’ll wake up in another country tomorrow ;)

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:00 PM

    Makes you think…..

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:18 PM

    Ohhhh, I just love how dramatic the media are making to it.

    8 years ago we has the exact same storms and not an eyelid was batted.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:08 PM

    Fear porn…..the media love it, just look at the front page of the Express anyday.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:39 PM

    grim if u live in a poorly insulated house like mise

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    Nov 12th 2015, 1:59 PM

    Hold onto yer hats! Storms a comin

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:04 PM

    After a big gale (Abigail) I propose the next one to be called Gusty Spence.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 7:25 PM

    Its so windy out there I went to the shop for a loaf of bread and got blown straight into the pub

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:05 PM

    Anyone lose a f/g labour minister in today’s storm haha

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:19 PM

    Just make sure there are no dog hairs on your car seats Gearoid O’Briain & sure you’ll be grand!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:43 PM

    Minds made up..despite the warm November..the fire is going to be lit..

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:57 PM

    Mary Poppins just did 80 kph past my window!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:41 PM

    Video: Storm Abigail makes a splash in the Dingle Peninsula today
    https://youtu.be/jRe6PlI3cuE

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:20 PM

    This alert system is a load of dirt,its windy out will do me.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 6:41 PM

    hmm and you live in Donegal ?

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:08 PM

    The storm names are almost all british names….

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:13 PM

    Jewish actually was Mrs King David

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:29 PM

    Shhhhhh don’t mention Israel…

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    Nov 12th 2015, 11:32 PM
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    Nov 13th 2015, 12:15 AM

    A-Big-Gael sounds Irish to me, would suit Hogan or Enda???

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:01 PM

    Maverick, Goose & Iceman would laugh.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 3:13 PM

    Dangerzone!

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    Nov 12th 2015, 6:49 PM

    Dangermouse.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 4:42 PM

    Shannon open for business as always

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    Nov 12th 2015, 6:58 PM

    So if I’m right then we get to name the nxt Storm
    Ok then – Baothghalach lets see them work with that one

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    Nov 12th 2015, 5:02 PM

    Why are they renaming the storm. It’s name is tropical storm Katie.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 11:31 PM

    Have to love the name of the storm, A-big-gail lol.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 6:40 PM

    Dingle Peninsula native and legendary GAA commentator Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh interviewed ‪#‎StormAbigail‬ today and he was impressed
    https://www.facebook.com/TheDinglePeninsula/photos/pcb.1154209374607593/1154209294607601/?type=3&theater

    I wonder how many red thumbswill this will get ..
    LOL

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    Nov 13th 2015, 12:14 AM

    The wind it that bad it has brought down trees, pylons….

    And my pants lol.

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:47 PM

    Get the generators at the ready there’s bound to be power outs

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    Nov 12th 2015, 2:35 PM

    Have the generators at the ready there is bound to be some power outs

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    Nov 13th 2015, 12:37 AM

    Are they reporting this storm as ” A BIG GAIL ” or calling it ” Abigail “. I’m confused !! It was very windy at times alright…hold onto your cap..

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