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WHAT EXACTLY DO we agree to when we download a smartphone app? To prove the “absurdity” of lengthy terms and conditions, some Norwegians are reading those of 33 apps, from Tinder to iTunes, in a live two-day readathon.
The user terms and conditions of the 33 applications typically found on a Norwegian smartphone amount to 260,000 words, or 900 pages, according to Norway’s consumer protection agency, making them a lengthier read than the New Testament.
To demonstrate the texts’ complexity, the agency has asked consumers to read out the terms and conditions live on its site.
“The aim is to demonstrate that the user terms for internet services, apps or other, are very bad,” head of the agency’s digital services section, Finn Myrstad, told AFP.
They’re too long and unintelligible.
Users were reading the conditions for Twitter, Netflix, YouTube, Facebook, Gmail, Skype, Instagram and Angry Birds among others.
By midday at Wednesday, they had been reading for 27 hours, and were expected to continue for a few more hours.
“Imagine if all the users in the world who have a smartphone were to spend more than 30 hours [reading]. That’s more than four days of work just to read the user terms and conditions on a smartphone,” Myrstad said.
Among the conditions posing the greatest concern were those granting “perpetual” or “irrevocable” licenses to the other party, he said.
“This means, in practice, that the content of your app, whether it’s your photos or your chats, will forever belong to the company. That’s totally unacceptable and violates European and Norwegian law,” Myrstad said.
The Norwegian consumer protection agency is a world leader in confidentiality issues. It recently criticised the French online dating service Happn and popular jogging app Runkeeper for collecting and transmitting users’ data even when the apps are inactive or uninstalled.
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Walked into work this morning down Grafton Street – including couples there ere 16 people sleeping rough on that stretch alone,.
You should consider reporting this to the Minster for Silence
Wonder if all hostels were full or was it that the warm weather could save the fiver for a few drinks/smokes/something to take?
@Brendan. It is clear that the Government could not give a sh*t about homeless people. Its a disgrace #SomethingMustBeDone
@Dara – sorry you are not allowed to point that out here. Also the Landlord evicted that family – we don’t know why?? – but Alan Kelly is not allowed to have a holiday and should be at home to deal with that landlord. Over €20 billion spent on social welfare in a country of 4.5 million people – more than enough in my opinion.
Cool, Sam is back.
Well played offtheball. At least there are some rational people left in this country!
@Gavin and OffTheBall. You are both talking absolute Horse Manure. Waster Kelly and the rest of this Government of clowns don’t give a dam about people who are homeless or people that can’t find a job or the working poor. The Country is full of foreigners who are taking jobs that should go to Irish people. And to top it all off, this Government is taxing the middle class away too much and as a result most people are only able to just about get by. Fact. Its a disgrace and the sooner this uncaring Government of the rich is gotten rid of the better the vast majority of Irish people will be. Fact. #EnoughIsEnough
@offtheball Welfare money that is then put back into the local community, at the pub for a few drinks, or in the shops for a bit of grub. I think you need to realise as well that the attitude to people on welfare as ‘Spongers’ or whatever you want to call them only further alienates people from a working society. We need to ask ourselves why people don’t want to get involved with society? What is failing? It is the gap between the lower class, middle class and the richest 1% which exasperates there situations. I wouldn’t want to get up and go to work if I was being paid next to nothing for an unrewarding job. We need change as humans. We currently exist to fund a system which systematically is destroying the planet, makes a lot of people suffer, and makes a few rich. You can see why everyone is fed up as f**k
This is like leo during the trolley crisis, silent and away . these ministers are well paid for the job they are supposed to be doing. Cutting short your holiday during a crisis should be a priority. Crisis don’t shut down because they go on holidays. Yes they are entitled to holidays but they get many days off from the dail and won’t be due back into the dail till end of September. So if you are a minister and a crisis occurs , man up and and do the job your being well paid for or resign and stay on holidays.
@littleone. Right on Brother. Come election time, this entire Government will be put on holidays (permanently) #TalkingSense
A bit early for election bullshit, your ilk caused the problems, this lot let they be good, bad, or indifferent are doing their best to sort out a cronic situation..
Talk about Meehole and what he did for the Health Problems etc, etc.
The more that gather there he better.!
Businesses paying huge rents will kick up and then the government will do something.
If I were homeless I would be bringing my sleeping bag to Grafton St,and of course- to the gates of Leinster House.!
Yeah,but the 20 billion goes on lining the pockets of hoteliers and B&B,s- not providing long term accomodation.
@Patrick. What are you on about. Who is my ilk? I am a floating voter mate and I don’t speak for Fianna Fail so I have no intention of defending them. Having said that, I am going to give Fianna Fail my vote in the upcoming election because Fianna Fail is the only hope Ireland has of getting rid of the current shower. Fact. Who would you have running the place? The Looney Left?? Don’t make me laugh #RealityCheck
As long as TDS are landlords and investors in vulture capital funds the TDs will largely ignore the problem as for Fianna Fail pontificating on the problem it is a bad joke.
@offtheball – you have done what people always want to do when they want to attack any needs group.
€20bn is the department of social protection’s budget it is NOT the budget for social welfare.
Have a mad idea … Mr Kelly do your feckin job and then you could enjoy your holiday … Just a thought .
@Stephen fagan Wow. One of the best comments I have read on this site. Well done on waking up & seeing the wood for the trees.
@Tony – fair enough point. But no matter what way you put it we spend €20 billion on social welfare in this country and in my humble opinion that is more than enough.
What a disgraceful and disgusting thing to say, friend of FG to be sure.
Fair enough – but people often dig this hole and don’t actually look at the split. The DoE is a completely different department also….
What a disgraceful and disgusting thing to say. Friend of FG to be sure.
@ Bernard – I have a few friends and some of them may even be in FG – I neither know nor care. What I have expressed is my opinion. You can either agree or disagree – frankly it doesn’t bother me either way. I just don’t get why you feel the need to label me just because my opinion differs to yours.
@ Sam, I wish there was some way I could block the comments from some people like yourself on the journal. Floating voter me arse you are a true FF SHILL.. Feck off and troll some other site!!
Taxpayers are paying bank debt. Banks evict taxpayer from homes.Taxpayers re-house taxpayers.
Our system is rotten to the core,same with our Government.
And the prize for succinctly summing everything up EXACTLY right goes to Thomas.
@JohnDonnelly. What’s your problem? I have said multiple times that I am a floating voter and that I am only voting for Fianna Fail because they are the best of a bad lot. How does that make me a Fianna Fail Shill? Go back to sleep mate. I would tell you to try to keep up but I fear that I am dealing with someone who isn’t that well endowed in the Brains Department. #Pity
Just when I was getting to like you Sam, ff fg lieb absolutely no difference.
@Derek. That’s just, like, your opinion, Man!! #BetterThanAllTheRest
@ Sam: If you’re going to remark on contributors intellect, do your homework on the correct use of capitalisation.
leave kelly where he is ,, he will only make a worse dogs b****x it,, what is the opposite to Midas touch ??? whatever it is kelly and labour have it in spades
what is the opposite of Midas touch ??? whatever it is kelly and labour have it in spades
@Shane. Right on Brother. Everything the current shower touch turns to Sh*te. Fact
No worries Kelly will not be sleeping rough. What a me person no interest in the Irish citizen but willing to turn up to turn a sod. He should join FF would fit in just fine.
a floating voter? who has already decided to vote FF and is regurgitating their talking points like a party spokesman. now there is an oxymoron.
@ForConnolly. Well you must agree that there are a hell of a lot of Dumb Dumbs posting comments on this site. While we are on the subject of grammer etc you should note that contributors’ should have a apostrophe s at the end when you are writing about something belonging to them such as their intellect. Fact. That being said, I really like your avatar. Your avatar and my avatar are old pals. Two of Ireland’s greatest Patriots. #Heroes
@JohnFergus. Ohhhhhhhh. Oxymoron. Now there is a very big word. Regurgitating another very big word. You must be very clever indeed. #Sarcasm
@KerryBlake. Fianna Fail wouldn’t take Kelly because he is a waste of space. There are capable politicians in every party but Kelly sure ain’t one of them.
you are without doubt a special type of stupid and I don’t mean special in a good way. #truth.
You cant vote if you don’t have an address. Shame on this administration….
Ah Sam FF will accept Bertie’s vote so I’m sure they will except Kelly as well.
Id say its the opinion of over half the country Samuel.
Business rent is a serious problem. Rent in this country is crazy and stops businesses from hiring or pay staff more. Sometimes you have to look at the whole picture with unbiased eyes.
where are they going to house all those in long term direct provision. when they give them the amnesty
If the criticism was coming from anyone else other than a Fianna Failer you might listen
@Barry. That’s a bit harsh. As a floating voter I have been giving all this a lot of thought over the last number of years and I have finally come to the conclusion that the party to vote for is Fianna Fail. Every party (including Fianna Fail) has made mistakes and there are positives and negatives to every party. But, on the whole, when you look back over Irish history the Party that has done the State the most service is Fianna Fail. That is why, after careful consideration, I have decided to cast my vote for Fianna Fail in the upcoming General Election. I would strongly encourage you to do the same #ForTheGoodOfTheCountry
#youhaveconvincedmesam
@Carmo. Glad to hear it Carmo. If there are enough people like you and me around then this Country will be soon be out of the mess that its currently in. #KeepUpTheGoodFight
Yeah Sam, but which party are you voting for?
@Guy. See my earlier post above. Basically I have decided to vote for Fianna Fail.
The shower who set the whole problem in motion is FF-#uckers.
@Sean. So, what’s your point?? I am a floating voter and I don’t speak for Fianna Fail so I have no intention of defending them. Having said that, I am going to give Fianna Fail my vote in the upcoming election because Fianna Fail is the only hope Ireland has of getting rid of the current shower. The next election will come down to a choice between the current right wing Government of the rich or a pragmatic left of centre Government led by Fianna Fail. Its a no brainer, when you think about it. #BestOfABadLot
#StopUsingHashtagsYouGit
Say you’re voting for:
FF
FG
Labour
SF
and you’re done… and the alternatives? We’re drowning in bad choices because of parish pump politics and virtual acceptance of the status quo.
@GuyIncognito. Another intellectually challenged individual who can barely string a sentence together much less come up with any kind of reasoned argument and so instead resorts to petty name calling. Sad really. #Uneducated
Punctuation is your friend, Sam.
sam I m not a floating voter and decided never to vote ff/fg/lab again as they are all equally bad a running a country, big on soundbites small on facts
if you need to be reminded about how ff deal with the taxpayers just look at the despicable tribunals and what they achieved which are now being aped by fg (who couldn’t have an original idea if they were the only ones in the room)
@Ciaran. So who are you going to vote for? The Looney Left? If those clowns had their way this Country would be as bad as Greece. I never said Fianna Fail were perfect. All I said is that they are the best of a bad lot and deserve support on that basis. I predict that the next Government will be a Fianna Fail Sinn Fein coalition with Fianna Fail as the major party. That is why I am going to give my number 2 to Sinn Fein. The priority has to be to get rid of the current shower. Can’t leave Sinn Fein go in with the Looney Left because that would definitely end in disaster. So, the best the Irish people can hope for is a Fianna Fail Sinn Fein coalition. Fact. #YouKnowItMakesSense
Yeah Sam, and you can’t even spell grammar properly despite your hi-falutin’claptrap. I’d call it a draw. Oh and you might also want to check your little treatise on apostrophes too – just sayin’. :)
……….or did you call them commas? Can’t remember…….oh well……
@Dec. Who are you ForConnolly’s Protector. I am sure he well capable of answering for himself so kindly mind your own business. #Uninvited
Perhaps less politicians trying to make capital out of the homeless would help focus on concrete actions and less blame game. There seems to be more energy expended on commentating rather than sitting down toether to work out a short and medium solution to the problem of homlessness
Dublin City Council and the Government need to work together on this. As the housing authority Dublin City Council has the power of compulsory purchase of derelict property that could be renovated; in the short term it could review its surplus property portfolio to see if these could be adapted for additional housing units; similar solutions are being explored in other areas where homeless is a problem for example London. Can we have some leadership and creativity from elected leaders on this issue -rather than beginning the general election early! Surely not too much to ask?
The Minister called a summit last year when the man died outside the Dail. We have all sat down together, had all the hot air and promises from Labour, the Minister made the announcement that homelessness would be gone by 2018 yada yada!! Fact is its time to stop talking and instead start dealing with the problem.
By the way your suggestion of compulsory purchase would be a good one if it wasn’t for the fact that the Department has left DCC €16m short in its homeless budget this year, what do you suggest they use to purchase these properties, goodwill? Who will they bring them up to living standard, the Fairies?
How much did the 15% reduction in the LPT save? Surely people should have been against the reduction if money is the issue here?
The DCC will not engage with tenants who are given notice by landlords, tenants who cannot find alternate accommodation are forced to wait until the day they become homeless before the DCC will assist them. DCC are not blameless in this, they should be engaging with tenants currently in distress and facing homelessness, assist them in finding alternatives and inform them of other options. DCC should be helping to prevent tenants who are currently in distress from becoming homeless rather than ignoring them until they do become homeless, upstream intervention needs to be implemented by the DCC
I think that will need to be looked at this year Dara when its reviewed again.
https://www.facebook.com/brendan.ferron/posts/10152533870509281
You congratulated yourselves in bringing in the 15% reduction all the while being well aware of the homeless issue in Dublin, specifically where emergency accommodation was being used to house families. Peter McVerry had been talking about the issue for months previously.
Why did you campaign to reduce it if you knew these issues existed? Where did you think the money was going to come from?
Dara, the LPT was indeed reduced by 15% by DCC. But of the amount thast was taken in, 20% was pilfered by this government and redistributed to councils in swing constituencies down the country.
Reckon that cash could have been used to help the homeless, or do want to concentrate on the 15% reduction in the LPT which helped struggling households?
I’m not sure if this has changed but the DCC in may were still waiting for ANY funding from the DoE around housing units. I won’t pretend I know for sure if this would directly effect the homeless but it’s surely something that has contributed to it.
So what’s the opposition’s idea. Throw money at the problem. Genius stuff.
Faux outrage from everybody, especially the keyboard heroes, but ultimately no desire from the public to do anything about it.
If there was, the gov’t would be listening and the opposition parties would be jumping up and down.
Looks like water is the only thing we give a sh*t about.
Sure what is to be done? The vast majority of homeless are responsible for their own situation.
shhh duck… your implying you can’t blame everything on someone else.. Don’t you know there is no such thing as personal responsibility anymore
Wot – not being able to afford an unreasonable, unfair and inequitable spike in rent because the landlord wants more money?
MK don’t the public elect a new government every 5 years to actually govern and make decisions. Joe Blogger can ring the Dept of the Environment and suggest a solution but nothing will happen, reason the minister is in charge and it’s his job.
Duck “the vast majority of homeless are responsible for their own situation” really? you can back that up with proof I assume.
Landlords aren’t public servants. They are operating a private business. Why should they operate at the minimum standard when instead, they can increase their profit, and attract more affluent clientele who are far more likely to be better tenants than dole monkeys and pyjaminals. This is logic 101.
It’s called common sense, Norman. Nobody forced people to borrow money they couldn’t afford to pay back. Nobody is forcing people to only look for accommodation in Dublin. People make their own decisions. Live with the consequences
“dole monkeys and pyjaminals” ah yes the default comment of the keyboard warrior name calling and idiocy.
Ye let’s use state funds to house Romanian families who can’t speak a word of English. That’s where all of this is coming from.
Infidel there is over a 1000 children classified as being homeless, are you suggesting they are all Romanian?
@MK76. What are you on about? This Government has treated the homeless people in this Country disgracefully. Fact. Well done to Senator Darragh O’Brien for calling that Waster Kelly to account. I am a floating voter but if I was living in Senator O’Brien’s constituency I would give him my number 1 vote because he is not afraid to stand up for the ordinary people of Ireland. People like Darragh O’Brien deserve support. #ImpressiveIndividual
@Duck The American spirit of the free relentless free market is alive in Ireland. Our focus on money and profit over compassion is truly one of our worst qualities as human beings.
@duck,
“Nobody forced people to borrow money they couldn’t afford to pay back”,
I suppose before many lost their jobs or the relentless austerity measures by successive governments eating into peoples take home pay, be it worker or social welfare recipient had nothing whatsoever to do with people finding themselves in a financial straight jacket,? alright duck or should I say Jack?.
@ Sam Agree totally, but the electorate don’t give a damn about anything (other than water of course) so neither the gov’t, nor the opposition.
Don’t see the rise of the Right2Housing or the Anti Homelessness Alliance, do you?
Too easy to blame JUST the government. It a societal issue in that no one gives a sh*t as long as it’s not happening to them.
@ Norman So you’ll be happy to vote for a party in the next election who raises taxes on us all, to look after the homeless, right?
MK why do you feel you can speak for me?
“Nobody forced the banks to lend money to people that couldn’t afford to pay it back”,-You’re welcome ,pepper duck ;) #truth #justlikesam #’fact
@MK76. Wrong Wrong Wrong. Governments are elected to Govern. The problem with this current shower is that they don’t govern for the poor, only for the rich. Fact #TryToKeepUp
“Landlords aren’t public servants. They are operating a private business. Why should they operate at the minimum standard when instead, they can increase their profit, and attract more affluent clientele who are far more likely to be better tenants – You could have stopped right there ,knobhead !
@ Norman The presence of a question mark (?) at the end of the post indicates it was a question, not a statement.
@ Sam So why have there been no mass protests on the issue of homelessness?
Yes it’s the gov’ts role to govern, but it’s the electorates role to tell them how to govern.
Would you pay more taxes to help the homeless?
@MK76. Are you feeling alright mate? There is NO WAY I am paying anymore taxes. I pay away too many taxes as it is. The Government should just spend more of the money it already has to help the homeless instead of giving tax breaks to its Super Rich Buddies. Its as simple as that. Fact
Thanks Sam.
Think you just proved what I’ve been talking about on this subject.
“Sure something needs to be done, but Im not going to help out. In fact, I want to pay less. The other guy can pick up the tab”….followed by some vacuous rhetoric to make everyone else seem like the problem.
@MK76 The multitude of Thumbs Down you get for every comment you make shows what most people think of your stupid comments. Fact. #Waffler
I wonder if senator o,brien is is ff mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hi Sam.
If I was getting green thumbs on these forums, I’d be seriously worried. The fact you think thumbs of any sort actually means anything, means you should be worried.
More than one narrative out there, but feel to surround yourself by like minded people, to help you convince yourself your view of the world is the right/only one.
Thanks for proving my point though. Appreciate it.
@Derek. Yes he happens to be in Fianna Fail. What’s your point. There are capable politicians in all parties. Fact
@MK47. Go back to sleep mate. #Clown
Another Lame Duck
@ChirstyNolan. Right on Brother
I find some comments here amazing. People are in need of social housing! Theres 600 plus refugees being taken in and housed where? Look after our own first!
And before people start calling those in need ‘scroungers’, the biggest scrounger of them all is on his holidays paid for by you and me! This same scrounger can get his breakfast, lunch and dinner every day and claim it back as an expence! As if he couldnt pay for it himself on his generous ministerial salary. All the while people are living on the streets, along with families who are sending their kids to school hungry
No point in getting an overpaid sociopath home from holidays.
There are highly paid civil servants with The power and funds to sort it out. A phone all is all they need to kick in an action plan.
Can we have a nationality breakdown on those figures?
No? Thought not.
From being around the City Centre everyday the vast vast majority presenting are Irish Nationals. We are not talking about people begging were are talking about people sleeping rough because they have no where to live.
I’d prefer stats on those who are or were functioning members of society…
The economy is not turning the corner, it’s doing a u – turn ,if it ever got off the starting blocks in the first place, and the Minister for Disaster is away enjoying the fruits of his labour.
“…you are a well known racist….”
so people who have real concerns and who ask legitimate questions are racists?
something of a libel, I think.
and if so, then thejournal is complicit in allowing many such racists statements on a regular basis.
surprise, surprise. Brendan is from Sinn Fein.
the same Sinn Fein that has just visited the ‘Irishman’ Halawa in his jail in Egypt and said to look at him there “would break your heart”.
the same Halawa that backs the Muslim Brotherhood who as fascist as it gets and are totally misogynistic.
But then Sinn Fein has form when it comes to that, doesn’t it?
Good man, Mark. We can now return to the Victorian system and have committees of worthies assessing who are the “deserving poor” and who are the “undeserving poor” – and entirely subject assessment as it always was. We’ve come a long way lads.
*subjective
a major crisis is when people who contribute to society end up on the streets, if you never worked or paid tax you should not be prioritised for everything. Workers have to be valued above non contributing members of society and looked after first… The hand out brigade should have to suffer first the odd time in life
Problem is the executive is answerable to no one. (except every 4 years which is useless to people being affected now) – The Supreme Court should be permitted to demand specific performance on the executive and oireachtas.
What specifically would you like them to do here Matt? Magic up some houses overnight?
Apparently, we have loads of houses in places like Leitrim, Roscommon and Cavan. And while the argument that they are not convenient to the jobs in Dublin, Cork and Limerick is good, if you are homeless and probably without a job, location is not so much of an obstacle.
However, we have two completely different homeless crises going on that need to be separated. We have one where we have individuals and families on welfare, who are unable to afford anywhere because of current rent allowance limits. We have another one, where the number of people living rough with mental health or substance abuse problems has escalated because of cutbacks in services over the last decade.
Extra houses only solves the first of the two problems.
Matt, have you been in the USA for a long time? The term of any government in THIS country is five years. Dev and his merry men knew how to look after themselves.
Regardless of getting the term wrong – and it may not be for the life of this government… The fact remains that people seem to think that democracy is about an election every X years and it’s not.
That 18 mil is well gone. It wasn’t used where it was supposed to be used. Ah no he wants his holiday, never mind the homelessness that is happening in ROI gobs**te
Give me patience! The only reason that unpleasant sack of ordure would be “under pressure” to return from holiday would be for appearances only. Does anybody seriously suggest (or even believe) that his presence or absence will have ANY effect on what the media now term “the homelessness crisis”. Channel funds towards the already familiar charities dealing with these matters and, most particularly, the housing associations. Some headway might then be made.
Whilst he’s on his lavish holiday spending huge amounts of taxpayers money, people are living on the streets struggling to find a bed for the night, he should be on the first plane home and using his money to find accommodation for the homeless… All TD, s should be donating a percentage of there wages towards the homeless society and other worthy causes..
Now come on Paul, thats a silly comment.
Did it not say that he was at a turf turning ceremony in Nenagh hospital?
Not sure it could be classed as a lavish holiday or requires a jet to travel back from Tipperary either?
he’s. in the country. Paul. you missed that bit with your speed reading
Or just cut their wages and it to the housing/shelter budget
Paul don’t be talking utter sh!te. Stupid comment
Paul, “spending taxpayers money”, you mean the money he earned. If he avails of a plummer, isn’t he paying the plummers wages? It’s how things work Paul.
@Gary tell me how Alan Kelly has ‘earned’ the ridiculous wage he is on?
Stephen, did I say anything about the amount of money he earns? My point is, it’s money he earned and can spend it how he wants to.
how can he not around but turning sods?
Holidays me hole
“I’d ask Alan Kelly to have a think about the family that were sleeping on this street with their three children. I’d ask Alan Kelly to think about the family that ended up in an industrial unit in this city because the council’s credit card maxed out.”
Why would you ask Alan Kelly? he obviously doesn’t care. Homeless people have no money or influence so why would he care about them?
The fruits of a European Union…
@Willy. Don’t blame the European Union. I know that in many ways the EU is annoying because it forces Ireland to make loads of politically incorrect laws that there is absolutely no need for and forces Ireland to allow loads of lazy foreigners into this Country. But overall the EU has been good for Ireland. Look at all the money Ireland has got from the EU over the years. The homelessness crisis is entirely the fault of this incompetent, uncaring Government of the rich, for the rich and by the rich. Fact #EnoughIsEnough
I would kinda like give you a red and a green for that one Sam.
@Derek. What are you babbling about? Stop speaking in riddles and explain what you mean.
Ok Sam green for saying the homeless crisis is the fault of the govt.
Red for saying the eu has been good for us.
Like mandrake hay…
between him and Leo giving all the answers but zero delivery, it’s mind bending stuff. seems to have plenty to say about Irish water and on hand morning noon and night for them but when it comes to the sick and homeless nothing bat all.
That man’s a sucmgab ,used and ruined the labour party to further his own and his brother’s business agenda
I think it must be absolutely obvious to citizens now that the only way real world problems are going to be addressed is through the constructive collective action of citizens in communities. Politics is ultimately about political survival and, when political survival is ensured, it’s about political advancement. As Brian Cowen said almost 10 years ago, “My first loyalty is to Fianna Fail”. That’s understandable since the only way a government or party will succeed is by standing together. Why anyone would expect anything else (having paid any attention since reaching voting age) is beyond me. Forget about what political parties should do and start recognising what they do in fact do. Reclaiming the process through which our society is governed is clearly not in any political parties interest, as it would only make things more difficult for them (and honestly no government can actually address all the issues). How about we all stop complaining about our politicians and either do what we can ourselves, or at least make it clear to our politicians exactly what we expect them to do and not to do and stand together to make that actually mean something.
Is it because his family can sleep secure that he is not bothered
Lets all get together and put this man on permanent holidays! Better start getting your CV together Minister Slurry!
the arrogance of the man knows no bounds
Gave joe Duffy a call he will get him back, sure if all else fails Bertie said his house is available
Why do the government think that anyone believes the owl shite they keep coming out with ?
They are lame ducks with no mandate anymore because of their lies from day one. Please do not insult our intelligence just say nothing and stop winding people up with your rubbish commrnts
Everyone is entitled to holidays and quality time with their families. The cheek of asking someone to cut their holidays short, especially ministers, who work 13/14 hour days on average
The cheek! While children are on the streets! The policies that his party and the government enforce are the reason this kind of thing is happening. Attitude of most of the comments is that it’s their own fault they’re homeless. Lest you forget you were lucky enough to be born into the right family where the upbringing and situations you lived through shaped you into a human that could make better decisions. If you are not careful the government and media will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, rather than those doing the oppressing.
Bullshit, he is paid well to do his job. Two weeks holidays the same as everybody else.
And to think that this prat is a”Labour” minister. My God, how much further down the uncaring Fine Gael road are they prepared to travel to satisfy their gravy-train hunger ?
No money to put a roof over the heads of Irish people who sleep on the streets or in cars with their children but plenty of money to fish illegal criminals out of the Med. What about sending the failed asylum seekers back to where they came from and using the DP accommodation to temporarily house Irish families until something more permanent comes available or using the money spent sending Irish navy to the Med on homeless Irish.
These illegal migrant types are so grateful for roofs over their heads in EU countries they stabbed a mother and son to death in a Ikea store in Sweden yesterday, unreal that EU countries are putting these economic migrant types ahead of their own and Ireland should be ashamed for allowing this to happen to those down on their luck possibly through no fault of their of own. Over in Kos 1500 of these illegals are rioting and battling the Greek police who are trying to help them while Greek people are living without electricity or running water and hungry at the same time. When is the EU going to do something to help the downtrodden of this continent instead of wringing it’s useless hands over illegal criminal economic migrants who are let loose to cause havoc and cost our countries billions while natives can go hang?
What a dope Paul Farrell
And you’re rude!
Probably better Kelly stays away on Holidays as we might get some action on solving the housing crisis as all Kelly does is talk. As Chair of Meath a County Councils Housing committee Kelly gave more money to Tipperary County Council than they have housing applicants for. Yet with the small amount of money he gave my county it will take 49 years to solve and house the 4800 on our list.
What difference will it make if he comes back from his holidays. There are a number of houses, flats, apartments around the country boarded up. It doesn’t take brain surgery to know that all the council have to do is take down the boards & do them up. I know that they will say there is no money available but if the gov cut back on their pay rise & waste of money on a daily bases then there would be enough money in this country. If you turn down a house because you dont like it or it’s not beside your friends, family then tough on you. I would like to live beside or close to my family but i’m approx 2 hrs drive away. I had to choose closer to family & no job or closer to work & a job. Needless to say I choose work. I don’t know what are the requirements to get a house but unless you are living beside junkies, pedophiles, or similar criminals then a roof over your head in good condition has to be better than living on the street. Just my opinion. Now let all the red thumbs click as I bet I will be lambasted for my comment.
The Government is causing this by what they do and do not do…
What about the obscene bill for these inept politicians’ pay packets? Preaching and passing laws to make us more impoverished while they get everything handed to them on a plate followed by gold plated pensions #amimissingsomething
It would be better for all concerned if he never came back. Kelly is an absolute waster..
it would be better to get him to resign and get someone who cares about the people and has the intelligence to hold office.
Wow I thought only FG did not care about the homeless, seems Labour like to shirk their responsibility of basic good government
He is not on holidays . He is busy spreading his lying propaganda as he daily campaigns for re-election in an election that has not yet been announced. And if he thinks that we the voters in Tipperary will be fooled by his lies again he had better think twice . You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.!! 2011 PROMISES INCLUDED no water charges and no tax on the home. LIES LIES AND MORE DAMN LIES.NOT THIS TIME MR .KELLY .
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