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Teachers and gardaí face pay freezes as Lansdowne Road agreement comes into effect

Teachers and gardaí, who are not due to get pay restoration, have slammed the deal.

SECONDARY SCHOOL TEACHERS and gardaí face pay freezes from today as the Lansdowne Road agreement comes into effect.

Some 30,000 public sector workers will face the pay freezes under the agreement.

The agreement means that teachers and gardaí who voted against the deal will not be eligible for some increments. Teachers will not be entitled supervision or substitution fees and argue this constitutes unpaid work. Both will still benefit from the restoration of pay cuts in the 2015 FEMPI Act, however.

Public Expenditure Minister Paschal Donohoe says that the Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (FEMPI) acts, brought in in 2009, continue to be needed.

The measures provided for under the acts have made and continue to make a significant contribution to the difficult but necessary programme of fiscal consolidation.

The provisions of the Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act 2015, which implements the terms of the Lansdowne Road Agreement, partially unwind the pay and pension reductions imposed on public servants.

The estimated overall gross cost of the pay measures in the agreement come to over €800 million: €267m in 2016, €290m in 2017, and €287m in 2018.

However, teachers and gardaí, who are not due to get pay restoration, have slammed the deal.

ASTI general secretary Kieran Christie told Newstalk the legislation was “punitive” and “unacceptable”. Teachers will march on the Dáil today in protest at the agreement.

“We’re protesting against the abhorrent unfairness of what’s being done to our members.”

Gardaí yesterday staged a protest outside the gates of the Dáil, calling on TDs to support their demand to have their pay restored to pre-recession levels.

Garda Representative Association Vice President Jim Mulligan said his members’ rejection of the deal will result in a pay freeze.

This will impact on anyone with less than 17 years’ service in the force, or 62% of rank-and-file gardaí, as they will not receive the standard salary increments as they progress.

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    Mute Darren Moore
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:44 PM

    To all the people blaming the Gardai on this they were busy dealing with a major collision on the m9 at Thomastown which resulted in a large section of the motorway being cleared. They have more important things to be dealing with than ensuring a generation of people who think the world revolves around them getting to a festival ! Your day was slightly changed and you were inconvenienced , it happens , get over it.

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    Mute K
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:49 PM

    @Darren Moore: ?

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    Mute Spbeak
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 2:58 AM

    @Darren Moore: First world millennial problems…

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    Mute Vocal Outrage
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 6:42 AM

    @Darren Moore: is that section of the M9 close to where the festival is, I’m unfamiliar with the area? If so it wouldn’t have just been a reduction in availability of Gardai causing the issue, but also diversions due to the accident.
    I think those involved in the accident have been significantly more inconvenienced than a group of festival goers who would have heard about the incident on the radio and didnt modify their plans accordingly

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    Mute G.M Lockjoy
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 11:06 AM

    @Darren Moore: well said I totally concur! Next year now they can go down the night before. Simples

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    Mute jnulty17@gmail.com
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 11:54 AM

    @Spbeak: don’t just blame millenia ls its also become common aming middle age because the platform is available to complain. Quit generalisation its mud

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    Mute Seamus Mac
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:30 PM

    @Darren Moore: delays while travelling to a festival on a bank holiday weekend? We need an oireachtas committee to investigate this ASAP.

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    Mute Stephen Walshe
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 10:34 PM

    Jesus Barbara chill out, maybe you should have left earlier

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    Mute Pseud O'Nym
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 10:40 PM

    @Stephen Walshe: in fairness, if you check out the Twitter feed, there are people who left Dublin at 11:30 or earlier and still weren’t there at 9pm. Then people saying another 90 mins to get checked in once you arrive. How much earlier should people have left do you reckon?

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    Mute ObsidianShine
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 10:56 PM

    How the hell could there be that much hassle with only 20,000 people. Its obviously extremely poor planning and management.

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    Mute Ole dan tucker
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:03 PM

    Tailbacks for miles in Carrick-on-Suir from mid afternoon and not a cop to be seen, they b out Monday morning with the bag when people goin home tho

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    Mute Clark Griswold
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:24 AM

    @Ole dan tucker: the Garda I met directed us back towards Carrick-on-Suir only for us to spend 2 hours coming back the same way! 3 by roads into 1 doesn’t work.

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    Mute Jim O Brien - TechBuzz Ireland
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 7:39 AM

    @Ole dan tucker: true that, drove to galway then Killarney didn’t see one garda. That’s unique.

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    Mute Regina Maclean
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:02 PM

    I live about 20 mins from Curraghmore. It took me 4 hours to drop somebody off and get home again. I don’t mind traffic jams and I wasn’t in a hurry to get home but it was strange that there is a huge estate with many entrance gates and loads of space for parking and yet getting into the space was so difficult. In those 3.40 hours it took to get in we saw one Garda and three people in high vis jackets. It seems rather strange. Hopefully everybody is in there now and will have fun .

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    Mute Robin Basstard
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:04 PM

    Bought tickets for All Together, ended up All Together in a traffic jam…I really don’t see the issues…

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    Mute alan
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:46 PM

    @Robin Basstard: and you can cap it off listening to Fontaines BC and their dinosaur music

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    Mute Bruce Van der Gutschmitzer
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:10 AM

    @alan: retro 90s/dinosaur is so in right now you uncool kid.

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    Mute Ciarān
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 1:09 AM

    @alan: Dinosaur music? It appears you are a simpleton

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    Mute DJ François
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 8:26 AM

    @alan: it is DC

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    Mute Sean Ryan
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 10:38 PM

    Maybe they need to sell timed entrance tickets. Arrive between a certain 2 hour period or something.

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    Mute Jazz Buckler
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:59 PM

    @Sean Ryan: that might work in Germany, not for a festival in Ireland. Get real

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    Mute Sean Ryan
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 1:54 PM

    @Jazz Buckler: it would work if implemented. What’s your soloution?

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    Mute Madra
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 1:10 AM

    We left Artane at 10:30am today.
    After 11 hours we got to the festival, then we got asked to go in a line for a camp site only to be told it’s full. Absolutely dreadfully organized. Decided to leave and we’ve been given a full refund.
    Whilst there NONE of the toilets had toilet paper. Avoid!

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    Mute Giddy
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 1:32 AM

    @Madra: hate when u need a big massive poop and
    theres no poop paper available and so u end up in bits full of poop hoping you don’t poop yourself

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    Mute Vocal Outrage
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 6:45 AM

    @Madra: if everyone was delayed, surly you all arrived in the same order you would have, just over a longer duration, hence, the full campsite would have been an issue regardless, it just took longer to become full. As for the toilet issue, have you never been to a festival before, if so you’d know to bring your own toilet roll?

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    Mute In my opinion
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 9:39 AM

    @Madra: didn’t you have the cop on to bring your own ar$e roll with over 20,000 ppl at an event you can assume toilet paper would be as rare as hens teeth.

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    Mute Diar O Doc
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 3:59 PM

    @Madra: you didn’t bring your own toilet roll?

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    Mute Stevie Doran
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 8:20 PM

    @Madra: you didn’t bring your own toilet roll so you asked for a refund?

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    Mute Sean Walsh
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 2:06 AM

    15,000 people at Indie 19, in Mitchelstown tonight, a small town in North Cork and not a bother getting in or out of it, just shows what good planning can do.

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    Mute Paul Riordan
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:35 AM

    Perhaps if every child wasn’t dropped by a suv 4×4 there wouldn’t be half the traffic problem.

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    Aug 3rd 2019, 2:03 AM

    It’s rediculous. I blame FFG for this obviously. I’m a typical “The Journal” reader with astute political acumen and an honest sense of fairness and equality. So I know when I see a Government led plot to upset citizens bank holiday weekend. Bla bla bla idi0ts. Jackíns all came down using their sat navs instead of following the Garda traffic plan. Then they go blaming the Gardai for the problems. Nuff said.

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    Aug 3rd 2019, 9:31 AM

    @Sonic: Haha I enjoyed that comment

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    Mute Brian Barry
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:48 PM

    No logical reason for such delays. We were lucky getting to gates relatively quickly but then spent 45mins to travel <1km. Made no sense as they were only letting 1 car at a time into huge field. Madness.

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    Mute Toon Army
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    Aug 2nd 2019, 11:56 PM

    Their supposed apology was some joke. Most of it talking about how great the site and festival was etc. Red rag to a bull I’d imagine!

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    Aug 3rd 2019, 8:47 AM

    Can’t wait for the Netflix documentary

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    Mute Martin Sinnott
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 6:42 AM

    Ireland can’t do festival parking. There is never adequate plans or space allowing proper parking. There is usually no budget as maximum profit rules.

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    Mute Rob Hall
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 7:23 AM

    @Martin Sinnott: wrong. Never had an issue at EP

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    Mute Declan Leonard
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 8:56 AM

    @Rob Hall: plenty of issues in the early years

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    Mute Jan Heine
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 4:17 PM

    @Martin Sinnott: I never had an issue at the Forever Young Festival! It was brilliantly organised with plenty of folk in high visibility jackets and all without exception were extremely helpful! Please stop running Ireland down – it really is a fabulous country with great events in the main!

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    Mute Stevie Doran
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 12:19 AM

    They said to follow the traffic plan and don’t put Portlaw into gps.. so everyone put Portlaw in their gps

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    Mute Spbeak
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 3:00 AM

    First world problems. Poor us with our delayed gratification – it’s not exactly Ebola!

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    Mute Nollaig Elliot
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 3:19 AM

    @Spbeak:

    Surely you can understand people’s frustrations after spending hard earned money and being subjected to such incompetence on the organisers behalf. You’d be bullin if ya missed a band you wanted to see cause you were stuck in unnecessary traffic.

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    Mute Ajax Penumbra
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 6:49 AM

    @Spbeak: Last time I checked we were first world people living in a first world country.

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    Aug 3rd 2019, 7:02 AM

    @Ajax Penumbra: a very poorly run first world country by all accounts

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    Mute Ed
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 10:15 AM

    Thoughts and prayers for the poor darlings. Let’s make the world revolve around these people again.

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    Mute Sal Paradise
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 10:10 AM

    Left Dublin at 1 and arrived in carpark at 4 and that was with a quick stop off in Portlaw. Not that bad?

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    Aug 3rd 2019, 4:20 AM

    We left dry land as the cock crooe in the morning
    And he crooe in the afternoon
    He crooe by mistake in the evening cause he thought it was d millennium

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    Mute Diar O Doc
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    Aug 3rd 2019, 3:57 PM

    The problem was obvious once we got to the car park, the stewarts didn’t have a clue. Taking far too long trying to park every single car individually. It was ridiculous. I’ve never seen a car park at a festival like it!

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