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Updated 6.40pm
A SUICIDE CAR bombing claimed by the Islamic State group ripped through a busy Baghdad shopping district today, killing at least 119 people in the deadliest attack this year in Iraq’s capital.
The blast hit the Karrada district early in the day as the area was packed with shoppers ahead of this week’s holiday marking the end of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.
It came a week after Iraqi security forces recaptured Fallujah from IS, leaving Mosul as the only Iraqi city under the jihadist group’s control.
The bombing also wounded more than 180 people, security officials said.
Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi visited the site of the attack and vowed “punishment” for its perpetrators, his office said.
Abadi’s office later announced three days of mourning for the victims.
The blast set buildings ablaze, and firemen were still working to extinguish them some 12 hours later.
Men carried the bodies of two victims out of one burned building and a crowd of people looked on from the rubble-filled street as firefighters worked at the site.
Hussein Ali, a 24-year-old former soldier, said six workers at his family’s shop were killed in the attack, their bodies so badly burned they could not be identified.
“I will return to the battlefront. At least there, I know the enemy so I can fight him. But here, I don’t know who I’m fighting,” Ali told AFP.
IS issued a statement claiming responsibility for the suicide bombing, saying it was carried out by an Iraqi as part of the group’s “ongoing security operations”.
The jihadist group said the blast targeted members of Iraq’s Shiite Muslim majority, whom the Sunni extremists consider heretics and frequently attack in Baghdad and elsewhere.
UN Iraq envoy Jan Kubis condemned the “cowardly and heinous act of unparallelled proportions,” calling on authorities to bring those responsible to justice.
Officials said another explosion in the Shaab area of northern Baghdad killed at least one person and wounded four on Sunday, but the cause of the blast was disputed.
US National Security Council spokesperson Ned Price said the attacks “only strengthen our resolve to support Iraqi security forces as they continue to take back territory” from IS.
Bombings in the capital have decreased since IS overran large areas north and west of Baghdad in June 2014, with the jihadists apparently occupied with operations elsewhere.
But the group has struck back against Iraqi civilians after suffering military setbacks.
A video posted on social media showed men — apparently angry at the government’s failure to prevent the carnage in Karrada — throwing rocks towards what was said to be Abadi’s convoy.
But the premier struck a conciliatory tone over anger directed towards him.
“I understand the emotional feelings and actions that occurred in a moment of sadness and anger,” Abadi said in a statement.
In May, Baghdad was rocked by a series of blasts that killed more than 150 people in seven days.
IS defeat in Fallujah
With thousands of vehicles moving in and out of the city each day, such bombings are difficult to prevent.
But there are also flaws in Iraqi security measures in the city, especially the continued use of fake bomb detectors at checkpoints years after the man who sold them to Iraq was jailed for fraud in Britain.
Iraqi forces completely recaptured Fallujah, a city 50 kilometres west of Baghdad, from the jihadists a week ago.
Anti-government fighters seized Fallujah in early 2014 and it later became one of IS’s main strongholds in the country.
IS’s defeat there was compounded by a devastating series of air strikes targeting jihadist forces as they sought to flee the Fallujah area.
Iraqi and US-led coalition aircraft destroyed hundreds of IS vehicles and killed dozens of fighters in two days of strikes against jihadist convoys after the end of the Fallujah battle, officials said.
With Fallujah retaken, Iraqi forces are now setting their sights on second city Mosul, the last major population centre held by IS in Iraq.
In addition to Mosul, IS still holds significant territory in Nineveh province, of which it is the capital, as well as areas in Kirkuk to its west and Anbar to its south.
The jihadist group seized control of large parts of Iraq and Syria in mid-2014, declaring an Islamic “caliphate”, committing widespread atrocities and organising or inspiring a series of deadly attacks in Western cities and across the Middle East.
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Savages!
Religion of peace
The “score” is over 130 now…the Sunni Wahabbis have had a busy week….Shia,Japanese,Italians,Americans,Lebanese,Turks…yet they have their defenders here…
None of my friends Facebook feeds were decked out with Iraqi flags and other faux sympathy, strange really!
” The first victims of Islam are muslims themselves…”
Indeed…i am so tired of that lie…
That is so true Charles. But how dare we say that here in case we offered those who think that all Muslims = terrorists.
Of course but all these terrorists are Muslims.
WTF is wrong with these people?
They’re brainwashed by a toxic ideology
Saddam Hussein was overthrown because he nationalized Iraq’s Oil and Gas companies, and then went further by trading his oil and gas in Euro’s as opposed to the petrodollar. Germany and France did not partake in this war because it would have been a great advantage for the European currency. The US totally destroyed this country murdering up to two million people and displacing over six million using an old British colonial method of Divide and rule. Sunni against Shiite , and Kurds against everybody. As in Northern Ireland. There was no ISIS in Iraq before the illegal invasion.
Gaddafi was foolhardy enough to believe he could trade his oil on the international market in a new African currency called the African Dinar, backed by his large stocks of Gold (Which incidentally disappeared after Libya was “liberated” ) Libya is today totally destroyed and ruled by various Jihadist groups who trade their oil in petrodollars. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Gulf dictatorships have been taught a lesson and will thus continue to trade in petrodollars if they know what’s good for them.
General Wesley Clark explains ISIS was created by U.S. and Allies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ojcoKnTGf4s
It would be fantastic if any of that was true, I mean those poor innocent Islamists, just looking to subjugate woman and murder infidels in peace, but the big bad Americans, with their shady jewish banker friends conspiring against them, all so the Rothschilds could eventually take over the world and force us all bow down and make the family richer.. Yes yes.. I concur Pat.. You have figured it all out…
Yes Pat, because Sunni and Shia weren’t already divided before the US came along…. Oh wait…
Hmm.. “Tariq 5 thumbs” is knocking around here somewhere… Pretty sure he now has another new username…. hmmm
Well put Pat, but people don’t what to know the real truth , the fact they didn’t back their oil against the dollar got them killed
Pat have you managed to forget that Saddam invaded his neighbours not once but twice and most likely would have done so again in the future had he been left in power.
125 confirmed dead now – utterly tragic.
It might actually be atrocious…I think ISIL meant this to happen.
Mick Jordan,
I think you’ve managed to forget that not only was Saddam actively aided by U.S. intelligence in one of those conflicts, the B’aath regime was propped up by Western powers at various stages as it was a secular state in the region.
@Pat O’Dwyer…………Totally innaccurate figs. You must be mixing up the Iraqi-Iran war that Sadam started killing over 2 million and don’t forget the assault on Kuwait.
Iraqi Body Count
IBC has documented 112,017 – 122,438 civilian deaths from violence between 20 March 2003 and 14 March 2013. 1
A complete account of violent deaths that includes Iraqi and foreign combatants (including coalition forces), as well as previously unreported civilian deaths still being extracted by IBC from the Iraq War Logs released by WikiLeaks, would include:
39,900 (combatants killed of all nationalities)
11,500 civilians (likely to be added from the Iraq War Logs)
2 For details, see IBC’s 2012 annual report with updates on overall numbers and the Iraq War Logs.
3 70,000 people killed in Iraq since 2003, says Human Rights Ministry, AK News
yielding about 174,000 as the number of people documented killed in violence in Iraq since 2003. 2
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/ten-years/
Hey Brian, what was the US role in Saddam’s annexation of Kuwait? Did US forces shove him over the border, and force him to annex another country, maybe?
Well Malachi, since the Kuwait Invasion was a direct result of the Iran-Iraq War for multiple reasons … and the Iran-Iraq war was a direct result of U.S. foreign policy (i.e. the Iranian Revolution) and the fact that the U.S. had an active role aiding Iraq during that conflict… I’d say they had a significant role. But I see by your post you don’t really get my comment anyway.
If the Iran-Iraq War was reason for that regimes eventual overthrowing, why wasn’t something done about it in the 80s? Bit of post rationalisation going on there.
If you really think US foreign policy was what made Saddam annex Kuwait, you’re verging on delusional.
US meddling didn’t inspire him to invade another country and destroy their oil fields on the way out. Saddam was a power hungry dictator with an angry streak. To blame that annexation on the US is exceedingly dishonest.
Why do you keep saying “made” like it’s a black and white cause and effect? Neither my original or second post made such a claim. Once again, try to understand what the point was.
Those kips need dictators, until the people themselves become civilised enough to run things. What a disaster the ”Arab Spring” turned out to be. I’m still bewildered as to why they decided to remove Gaddafi, after they had already seen the consequences of the vacuum left in Iraq. This mayhem is obviously wanted, but I’m stumped as to why.
Bigus
Very true, Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were keeping a lid on all the centuries old tribal and ethnic conflict in their countries, the same situation is unfolding in Syria.
@biccus discus. I agree completely. These kips need strongman dictators to keep the people and the rest of the world safe. Jihadists everywhere have to be destroyed by what ever means necessary. Their human rights be damned. . I remember all the liberal prancing celebrating the the so called Arab Spring as if we had Vacal Havel instead of MB and Isis on the horizon. Anybody who knows the Islamic religion knows democracy is only a necessary tool to expedite the implementation of Sharia but the liberal fools in the west only see what they want to see. 86 people murdered, blown to bits, fricking horrendous but could be avoided if Obama had balls to send in the big guns and destroy Isis from the beginning. How hard could it have been? A bunch of aka 47 toting Neanderthals verses the might of the most powerful armed force the world has ever seen. Barack Obama is beyond useless.
Bigus: The answer is the Petro Dollar. Any country that stops trading oil in dollars is seen as a threat to the American economy
Pat you said that they need dictators, look at assad. He’s barrel bombing his own people daily and that was before the rise of isis.
Yes francis, that us true. And what better way than to employ the religion of peace than actually invading
It is more about gaining territory, not based on religion. It is also opposing factions. It is all caused by Western intervention the only way it can be fixed is internal. Not by over horizon policy which only serves to exacerbate the problems.
Infantilising people by blaming all their crimes on other is trade mark leftist horse manure.
Islamic failure = Western guilt/responsibility.
You are an apologist for the worst forms of criminality and you have the cheek to blame it on western people??
Nut case.
You are an ill-informed, ignorant person Rob. You disagree with a plethora of political scientists, historians, current policy analysis, and so many commentators from military and professional circles it is just not funny. Get you head out of the pit of crap you dwell in and get a clue.
Your a shill and a butcher’s apologist who in spite of daily murder spree’s at the hands of this cult will defend them anyway. You deliberately mislead people and it is people like you who are helping import this ideology which will result and has resulted in untold suffering for those who do not follow it.
You fairy tales are disproven time and again and people are waking up to the viral mind disease that Islam is.
Padraig. It appears debate is not your forte.
Padraig this level if middle eastern violence didn’t start 15 years ago. It started 1300 years ago. The dictators merely subdued it temporarily, and they were always going to fail.
A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.
That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.
During the 1970′s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.
Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980′s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.
If you can wade through the redacted fueled document maybe this would also help you to understand more about the world Rob/ http://goo.gl/UQGwTy
Padraig knows he is telling lies, he’s either a paid shill or more likely a convert which makes him even more radical than someone born to it and willing to say anything. People like him share responsibility with the head hackers.
I don’t tend to waste my time debating with the bottom draw of society. Telling – it is similar debating with a flat earther or chem train dweller. I do not need the validation or, in fact, care what people with little understanding and spruik all kinds of rubbish about immigrants, use emotive language and pin significant issues on small targets.
That is for you to deal with, enjoy.
Okay so who else’s fault is it for all the other Islamic atrocities since it’s inception? Surely it is somebody else’s fault for all the other barbarity they’ve visited on the world since 622 a.d. Padraig?
Because we certainly can’t blame people for their own actions! Not at all it is always somebody else’s fault, usually the victim’s eh?
Except that unlike flat earthers the evidence is on my side and indeed screaming at you from this article and articles exactly like it every day for as long as anyone can remember. Islam is the problem.
Padraig, the US supports anybody who will benefit them in the short term without thinking if the long term.
You honestly think they wouldn’t have been a major organisation without the CIA? These groups have always existed. The difference is now we have airplanes and the smart people down in Brussels decided having no borders was an even better idea with a destabilised region nearby
Well said Rob. These people know well what they are doing. Sick of the regressive left apologists blaming everything on the West. You’ll find the main driving force in the Syria conflict is not the West but regional power struggle between Saudi and Iran
I think I have tried to explain to you before Rob that issues do not happen in a vacuum. You want to simply pin the medal onto the chest of Islam and ‘savages’ this makes it easy for you to pin your hate. You have often shown that hate across the Journal even talking some right bollocks about immigration and multiculturalism. ‘
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You seem to dismiss how much of the conflict brewed and how destabilisation created the climate to allow radicalisation to flourish. When the U.S. helped to establish Iraq’s government, it consistently supported Maliki, even going so far as to assist in Maliki’s persecution of dissidents and civil society activists.
The U.S. was probably more instrumental than Iran in cementing Maliki’s power in Iraq. Maliki alienated Sunnis in Iraq by cracking down on his opponents and pursuing discriminatory policies in government and the armed forces. When Maliki’s troops stormed Sunni protest camps in 2013, they were armed with U.S.-made weapons.
By the time the U.S. and Western Europe finally decided Maliki was enough of a liability to push out of government, fertile ground already existed for an ISIS-led Sunni insurgency in Western Iraq. Libya is now a hotbed, radicalised and further fueling ISIS. Gaddafi had the situation suppressed, even though a shocking dictator it at times, needs this kind of oppression to keep larger problems art bay. That, however, did not suit the needs of the U.S and now due to their involvement we have more problems.
@Rob. My guess is a Convert. He has the converts zeal coupled with a new found ability to quote the Koran, the verses out of context and out of continuity. the rest of the world learns about “abrogation” which means earlier peaceful passages are superseded and made irrelevant by later violent ones, any contradiction is not open to “interpretation”, theThe Koran is clear that later passages are the ones to be followed, but Muslims will not tell you that. They quote you the peaceful passages and go “voila” see, the Religon of Peace! For example. They will say “there is no compunction in Religon”. All very nice except that is superseded by “kill the unbeliever wherever you will find him”. And many other later passages that describe exactly what should happen to apostates and unbelievers.
Anything you have tried to explain to me has been categorically wrong.
You equate my aversion to a sick ideology with hating Muslims in general, which is a fallacy.
You say Islam is not responsible for mental aberration, it is because of the west. Yet you glaringly leave out the fact that if your narrative is followed then you are not arguing that Islam is peaceful but simply that the CIA removed the things that were keeping Islam in check.
Therefore you essentially agree that Islam is barbarism but think it is the west’s fault for letting the lion out of the cage.
In a nutshell Marg.
It is not wrong, Rob, you just have a biassed mind and a myopic view on how problems happen. Now we have Tin Hat Mark, talking about “political ponerology”
Dr Andrew M. Lobaczewski is a Polish psychiatrist that studies and writes about political ponerology. If you are unfamiliar with the term or his works you might like to read “Political Ponerology (A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes).” Political Ponerology is an academic discipline that takes into consideration psychology, sociology, philosophy, and history to account for such phenomena as aggressive war, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and despotism.
Dr Lobaczewski asserts that societies rock between happy “undisciplined” times and troubled times “disciplined”. We can account historical times such as the first and second world wars, the great depression as troubled times. The roaring 20’s being an undisciplined time feeding into the Great Depression and WWII. During happy times moral and intellectual fabric tends to erode, society to some extent loses the run of itself, and licentiousness, questionable norms, make their way into society and policy.
http://www.tworoundcorners.com/the-peasants-revolt-while-xenophobia-is-the-patsy-of-the-brexit-vote/
You continue to prove my point Padraig. More and more likely a convert now that were into the moral questioning of the west in general.
The only thing being proven, Rob, is your propensity to confirm your biassed premise, that my friend is the crux of confirmation biassed. The more I post factual based content, the more I draw in academic based thought and example the more you solidify your position. I must remember to use you as an example on a new paper in the mind of a xenophobic person.
Enjoy your day, enough time spent here.
Rob and most commenters here won’t be happy until we just agree that Islam causes each and every problem on earth.
‘A xenophobic person’
‘Confirmation biased’
‘Academic based thought’
I can’t keep a straight face reading this muck i doubt sincerely that you can writing it!
Ha Ha oh Padraig, how long more do you think you will be able to dine out on your “Social sciences” degree from Trinners?
When will you realise the fact that you seem to believe yourself to be some sort of intellectual powerhouse, because some extremely biased left wing lecturer with no concept of real world living, wrote on a piece of paper that you are now welcome into his fraternity of gimps.
Does not make your biased points are any more valid then a begger on the street
For many years I was in the same camp as Padraig. I’d even hug an occasional tree. I spent months and years debating of political websites in the US, particularly re the Iraq fiasco.
So one day I decided to listen to the other side of the argument and give them a fair crack of the whip. It was then that I grew up.
Padraig you’ve obviously discovered a way to give yourself loads of green thumbs and anyone with an opposing view a load of red thumbs reminds me of Michael McLainn a poster almost the exact same as you?, the ratio of green to red thumbs is way out of proportion for this subject matter.
The infamous “Tariq 5 thumbs” is knocking around here somewhere with a new username.. Pretty sure its “Jihad watch”
However, I don’t think Padraig is the same person, he is just an Uncle Tom for Islamofacism.
Rob You miss the point. Islam is indeed a disgusting ideology that people should have no time for, but it’s undeniable that the West has armed them and used them as a proxy.
Padraig you’re awoken a hornets nest of US/Zionist Journal posters who “Run” this site Lol, but they really do cos their fanatical posting of Anti All things Islam is so predictable I could name the Yank Israeli fake accounts before i read an article, having said that you’re handing them their ars*es on a plate by daring to suggest that the vast vast majority of Muslims (1.6 Billion) are peace loving peoples and they’re not liking it , if only they were Irish (which they’re not despite their fake names) in the 70′s and 80′s in England
Ok guys, we have been rumbled by John again.. Gosh Darn it!
He really is just too clever for us..
John Burke, if as you say the “vast vast majority” of 1.6 Bn muslims are peace loving people, why do hundreds of millions support violence against civilians and killing people who leave Islam? (Source: Pew data)
This is more of a buzz phrase than anything. Most muslims aren’t violent Islamists, but there is a massive proportion that support it.
Naa Emma I am not that clever trust me Lol I’m just not f***ing stupid, ALREADY you = God Darn it = Yankish Lol NO Irish person speaks like that
Malachi you’re one of “that gang” that run this site, although I have seen you comment on other articles strangely enough , You and your ilk will and DO put in endless hours post Anti-Islam rhetoric on here and is suspect elsewhere but I think yis are wasting your time cos at the end of the day everyone knows it’s the Zionists that cause all wars using Zio controlled US to fight their wars for them, thanks god? for social media
Malachi and gang I wouldn’t have the time to do 1/!0 of what you lot do on this site so good luck to yis
Jynx he was trying to argue against me using the CIA thing which was not a valid argument against Islam’s obvious flaws, just a deflection tactic.
John Burke I have no love for Israel or the Zionist lobby in the US and Britain who are as i said let the lion out of it’s cage as regards Islam and have been running rough shod over the last century leaving millions dead and billions negatively affected.
It is possible to see through Islam and Zionism you know, considering the Quran and the Talmud are equally disgusting texts worshiping the same desert god and promoting the rape of children and the dehumanization of non believers/kuffar/infidels/goyim/gentiles.
Also your Muslim majority luvvies fallacy has been rumbled by pesky facts….
William…yes i was struck by that also…incredible.
Thanks for completely dodging what I said. I’m not part of any “gang” either you tool, not everyone who disagrees with you on Islam is a paid shill, the sooner you realise that the better.
Just do a poll of the Irish population and you’ll find millions of “US/Zionist” shills who refuse to accept what you’re peddling. Oh wait.
So, do you feel like actually addressing what I said this time? How is it a “vast vast majority” of peace-loving muslims when the polls show that to be completely false?
Emma…Rich/Tariq is WAY more sarcastic and is indeed,often correct.
Malachi how many millions did the Zionist controlled US murder in the Middle East ? and what info are the survivors being fed ? they killed us cos we’re Muslims perhaps ? who knows but the fact remains they have been treated appallingly by the west and trust me the average Joe in the street would have sympathized with the IRA in the 70′s and 80′s due to the despicable treatment of Irish men and women in the North but they certainly wouldn’t have agreed with killing innocents , over and out
Exactly John, there wouldn’t be a significant fraction of the Irish population who supported killing civilians. Except that’s the case in the muslim world.
Not only that there are hundreds of millions that support the death of innocent civilians in Islamist attacks, but there are approx 250 million muslims who support killing those who leave Islam.
Please John, if you can find a poll of Westerners that indicates that level of support for executing those who leave their religion, show me it. Maybe then we can have an equivalence between Islam and the West.
Until then it’s quite painfully clear your comment about the “vast vast majority” is a falsehood. There are hundreds of millions of fundamentalist, conservative muslims who support death of those that do not share their beliefs.
John is a great example of when the far left becomes blurred with the far right….
Water off a ducks back, John. You know yourself you cannot fix stupid and when that is married to “extremism” well you just have the incubator of hate. I would like to say it amuses me that they express the same radicalisation as the terrorists, alas, it pains me. It might be ironic that they are of the same mindset/mentality, however, we need less damage to society not more, and these bottom feeding troglodytes corrupt the minds of their fellow meek. That results in more death, destruction, and radicalisation. As a society, we need to fight extremism be it in the form of terrorism or our local communities, as is represented here.
^^^
What William said…
JB
Here’s one of your wannabe Hamas terrorist buddies up to a bit of ‘Freedom fighting’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/13-year-old-israeli-girl-stabbed-to-death-in-her-bedroom/
Care to comment??
JB
When will the penny drop and you realise that you are nothing more than one of Islams useless idiots, in your case that is.
JB
More Hamas terrorist buddies brainwashing tactics with the help of the UN…
@Peter Gavin……….There’s a reason behind their fanatically blaming The West. That is to create the Islamic Sacred Pretext to initiate terror attacks by their Jihadis and , of course,to BLACKMAIL-political and financial; The West has wealth so the obvious target to bloodsuck .
John you really hate jewish people don’t you? A little tip for being able to see through conspiracy theories in the future: 1. It involves a singular global power (nwo/Illuminati/freemasons) 2. It involves aliens. 3. It involves the jews.
Religion.
People are just a scoreboard to inhuman power hungry savages if that is their god what is their devil ?
A ‘religion of peace’. These savages cannot live in peace with each other without the brutality of a strongman. Nevermind the Kuffir.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Was looking at this site – I do wonder if the majority of what they report is accurate.
Islam.
The Shia Sunni powerplay has changed in Iraq. Saddam was Sunni. New leader is Shia. The country will be irrevocably fractured into Kurd, Sunni and Shia enclaves. My guess is that Isis have been aided and abetted by the Saudis here. They want regime change.they want a Sunni controlled regime in Iraq. They can whistle for that if they think the Kurds will run with it.
Saoirse…i think you are correct.
Religion of peace.
That’s a tired cliche that’s done to death on here. There’s no such thing Rob. You can include all religions in that.
What’s a tired cliche is equating all religions when there is an obvious and massive difference in contribution to violence between Islam and literally every other religion in existence. It is to the point that there is no comparison to be made, and before you trot out the usual ‘muh crusades’ pish take a look at a little thing called perspective….
Same old sanctimonious Muzzie bashing. Yawn.
Tweed cap since when is islam merely a religion? Its much more than that. Actually learn about islam before you equate it to other religions
You are so ignorant and I bet you have 0 knowledge is Islam, at the same time you are blinded by your ego that you can’t see it is Muslims who are dying more than anyone by the terrorist group Isis. Islam teaches peace, love and harmony. Perhaps, you start educating yourself a bit and then comment while sipping your cuppa.
@ Jihad.info
Goaway with your crap talk “Islam preaches peace and harmony” I’d be executed under Islam for my sexual orientation, maybe you mean when they are done killing everybody who is different the survivors can all get along in peace and harmony?
Maybe you should learn about Islam, you probably know a lot since your name is Jihad.info. You probably know its permitted by Allah to lie to the dirty Kaffars if it benefits Islam.
“Peace, Love and Harmony”
Yeah there was plenty of it dished out in Paris, London, Madrid, New York eh Jihad??
@Guy. I’ve spent enough time in my own life travelling and working in Muslim countries to understand that the vast majority of them are just like us – wanting to do right by their families and to get on the best they can in life. Crazy eh?
Tweed cap, Y’mean the UAE? Quatar? So dangerous……
How bout you try Afganistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan. Bring a friend of the opposite gender, hold his hand and kids the. Draw a picture of Mohammad. Wear one of those Caps you wear in Judaism.
Lets see just how like us they are. Actually do that in the UAE to, you may not get murdered by a mob but expect imprisonment and whip lashing.
My cousin Live in the UAE, but guess what. The UAE is 90% immigrant, but still you have to follow the islamic rules. May not affect you so hard if you are a straight man there for like 3 days but try living there. Try living in beautiful Quatar or Oman or Algeria. Try it.
Kiss him/her*
AGuyWithARant.
They literally do mean that there will be peace and harmony once everyone else is dead or converted.
Jihad name one Western country that has benefited from the arrival of large numbers of Muslims and while you are at it why does a religion of ‘peace ‘ feel a need to threaten death on anyone who dares leave this religion of peace
@Rob. Even then there won’t be. Because then the degrees of the “good” Muslim come into play. There is always a Muslim more pious than another. Muslims will never stop killing each other because their Religon is extreme and the question to be asked is how extreme can you go. There is always one Muslim who call another a heretic and vice verse. It’s the nature of the Religon and the reason it’s always been very, very violent.
SHIA muslims are dying more than anyone by the terrorist group Isis….
Or Molenbeek….
Marg…Takfiri.
Jihad info knows full well that ‘peace’ means ‘submission’ in Islam. They Taqiyya(conceal the truth ) it in to ‘peace’ to fool the gullibini.
George W Bush & Tony Blair created these problems the world is having now by invading Iraq on false information to the world. They should be tried for Crimes against Humanity.
This savagery has being going on since time began,the only mistake Blair and Clinton made,was not nuking the kip.
Spoken like a true Rangers man, well done
There has been plenty of Islamist violence before the Iraq invasion.
@Malachi fanatical much ?
Again, another story where all you have to do is read the headline… Where will it be tomorrow media?
Wrong headline again…. ‘Pigs in human skin’
RIP more innocent life lost . Grief has no country or religion ! Scary to think where it’s all going to end . Each day that passes the worlds humanity is being robbed more and more because of hate.
More NATO air strikes , the magic ones that never kill civilians and support the imaginary moderate Muslims
What you have here on this site are people from ‘christian’ Europe more concerned with the splinter in their brothers eye than the beam in their own. It’s all the fault of Islam and the west is as pure as snow. Children who still believe in goodies and baddies.
The world as we know it wouldn’t survive a week without oil, yet somehow it has nothing to do with anything the west gets up to. Divide and conquer anyone?
Neil, I find it quite funny how you criticise others for not blaming the West and blaming Islam for everything, when you just do the exact same in reverse.
You seem unable to grasp that there are hundreds of millions of religiously motivated folk who would be quite content with your slaughter at the hands of jihadists.
The West is at fault in many instances, most notably their dealings with disgraceful, barbaric regimes such as Saudi Arabia just because they want their oil.
However, to try and paint some false equivalence between the mistakes of free democratic societies versus the widespread oppression of peoples by Islamists in the ME is simply dishonest.
Western ‘free democratic societies’ have dominated the globe, militarily and economically, for centuries. This included, and still does economically at least, widespread domination and subjugation of other peoples everywhere and the taking of their resources. You see, when propping up brutal doctators around the world, we’re not that concerned about democratic principles for the locals. Self-interest is the name of the game Malachi, you’re the fool for believing the b******t goodies and baddies narrative.
Radical Islamic terrorism ‘towards the west’ is in large part a backlash against that. I’m not apologising for it nor justifying it. It’s horrific. It stands to reason though that it would not be directed against us for no reason at all, least of all the idiotic belief that simply their book tells them to do it. But simple people want simple answers and an easy scapegoat, so Islam will do for that.
So much wrong with this. When you’re comparing countries that execute people in public squares for leaving the state religion, or for being “sorcerers” or for blaspheming, with countries where people choose the people who govern them and have human rights, there’s something wrong. There is no comparison.
You day that it’s a b******t goodies and baddies ‘narrative’, you’ll have to excuse me if I think the people marauding around the middle east beheading their fellow man for being of a different religious sect are ‘baddies’.
You see Neil, your argument would make perfect sense if ISIS or Boko Haram or their ilk were bombing US military installations or killing US citizens exclusively. Except, they aren’t. These radical Islamist groups take over swathes of territory from their fellow muslims and proceed to purge those who don’t fall in line with their sect.
It’s also amazing to me how you can dismiss the idea that these fanatics take inspiration from their holy book. Whenever there is a terrorist massacre, often the first thing mentioned is the religious reason for the attack. You know, the motivation behind them blowing themselves up. Paradise, as outlined in the Koran.
But no. Neil, you’d have everyone believe that Islam is innocent of all the barbarity it preaches. You dismiss the link between Islamist states and gross violations of basic human rights. It’s the religion of peace, don’t you know! It’s not me that’s fallen for the boll*cks, it’s you mate.
Sure Malachi, whatever you say …
Savages!!! Blood-thirsty monsters!!! This evil will have to be stopped. 119 innocent lives taken. For what!!! My heart goes to the families of the people who lost their lives. God bless them.
Blown apart simply because they are Shia..heretics in the eyes of the Sunni.In Dhaka they cut the throats of Japanese,Italians and Americans because they were Kuffar – non Sunni…and because that would frighten all other Foreigners out…so Bangladesh would regress back to a Sharia state.
Seems Brexit was about getting rid of foreigners too, not as brutal obviously, but same mindset when pared down to its hateful extremes.
Incredible. A democratic decision by the people of the UK to leave a political union is compared to the literal slaughter of foreigners.
Have you no shame? Did you seriously think this comparison sounded in any way reasonable as you were typing?
That’s some hole you’re digging Neil
No I didn’t. Obviously. There is no comparison because you are misunderstanding and not comparing like with like. It’s the surface things you are only looking at. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Jesus….you could compare a human slaughterhouse to a referendum? A vote? You do know the gory details of what went on in that Dhaka charnel house by now…yet you choose to do a little whataboutery…i dont anticipate duelling with you anytime soon…you are special..and you arent even trolling…
Sure Peter, get everything way out of proportion. Hatred is hatred. That was my point. You’re comparing its expression, I wasn’t.
Neil…so im outta step?im the muppet?so im the fool because i feel the unspeakable deaths of the victims in Dhaka is pretty much incomparable to a civil event….Neil…im not one for rudeness or abuse but sometimes the vicarious nature of the internet allows us a certain impunity….
Barbaric savages brainwashed into carrying out such horrific acts.
The continuous ‘Blame The West” propaganda from the Muslim Brotherhood paid internet shils in the global media is to cement the Islamic Sacred Pretext for their Jihadis to attack The West with terror,etc.. Their well paid ,tax-free and on top of that they swindle the welfare…..they don’t care about facts…. they count on wearing us down with repetition.
Iligitimus Non Carburundum!
Quick test to see how many of the expert commentators on the journal really give a shit about Iraq: What do you currently know about these people, and their significance, without consulting wikipedia ? Jalal Talabani Mahdi Obeidi Abu Azrael
Jalal Talabani, Mahdi Obeidi, Abu Azrael
Shil…im quite enamoured by/with Abu Azrael…super warriorShia of course,axe in one hand,machine gun in the other…came across him 2 years ago “grind them to dust” is his catchphrase…..Talabani was president…Obeidi,name is familiar but cant describe him…didnt touch google.
I haven’t a clue and honestly, I couldn’t care less. They can kill each other, love each other or whatever. Nothing to do with me.
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