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FRENCH POLICE TODAY arrested a Moroccan man after he stabbed a woman and her three daughters at an Alpine resort.
The motives for the attack were not immediately clear.
Local officials said there was nothing to substantiate rumours that the assailant had been offended by the skimpy attire of his victims.
The suspect, 37, from the Yvelines region outside Paris, attacked the woman and her girls who were staying in a neighbouring chalet in the village of Lagrand.
The man “leapt onto the terrace” of his victims’ apartment as they enjoyed their breakfast and “stabbed the three children with a knife several times,” said public prosecutor Raphael Balland.
He added that the girls’ 46-year-old mother was also hurt in the assault.
The youngest of the girls, aged eight, was airlifted to hospital at nearby Grenoble, where she underwent surgery.
“She is out of danger and could leave hospital soon,” Balland stated.
The two other girls, aged 10 and 13, and their mother were hospitalised closer to the attack site in the town of Gap.
Following the attack, the man fled the scene but was apprehended by police.
Balland said the idea that the assailant could have been upset over what his victims were wearing was merely a “rumour” and that he had “not uttered any words reproaching them for their dress at the moment of the attack.”
He added he was “in regular touch with the anti-terrorist division of the Paris prosecutor’s office… given the national context” — an allusion to last week’s attack in Nice in which 84 people were killed when a Tunisian man ploughed his truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille day.
A source close to the investigation said the assailant was known to police for petty crimes but had not come under the radar of intelligence services.
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People should be allowed to dress as they want !
They are Conor, it’s just the ungrateful guests can’t seem to reconcile bronze age barbaric superstition with western civilisation, democracy & enlightenment.
If and I say IF it turns out he was really offended about them wearing shorts and t-shirts in our culture, in our west in our Europe, with our values then he is welcome to leave and go back to a country that practices his sharia law.
When in Rome and all that. Respect the culture. Western people don’t go to Muslim countries trying to wear t-shirts and shorts when not allowed, so don’t expect to live in the west and not live OUR culture.
There is no attributed evidence that the mode of attire of the three very young girls was the actual motivation. It is just one theory. It may or may not prove to be correct.
3 very young girls..AND their MA!
The mother was inside the apartment when the attack on the terrace took place.
Thankfully, all four are now out of danger. The psychological trauma will take so much lounge to heal, if at all.
It was a vile and despicable attack but seems out of the norm for a terrorist motivated attack.
No totally correct, “when in Rome”, we abide by their laws when in their countries, they will abide by ours, but I for one do not agree with any member of our society being covered head to toe so that you cannot makeout if it’s a man or women underneath, it’s real simple, if they don’t like our culture, ship the f u c k e r ‘s out, but we ain’t changing it for them, even though the lefties on here will agree to do just that, it’s never gonna happen.
How many did the Irish Government say they would take in again, and where would they be located??
Another 18 cases of sexual assaults by Migrants in the Germany, this time at a festival in Bremen.
No other group would be able to get away with this kind of stuff but for some bizarre reason the left rabidly defends Muslims because they are so terrified of being called racist or Islamaphobic.
Michael did you not also say there was no evidence or jihadi link to the nice attack and the German train attack? You blamed mental health. Why are you vehemently denying the dangers Islam is presenting
Micheal, it’s called rape Jihad. https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/germany-muslim-shouts-inshallah-as-he-rapes-student-then-asks-her-if-she-enjoyed-it
Do you spit the sand out of your mouth when you take ur head out of the bucket to apologise Michael?
Conor: So you’re ok with someone in combat fatigues, jackboots, a balaclava and oh say, a Viking helmet in the queue behind you at the bank? I can’t wait for Halloween!
Cholly, incorrect. I was open minded about the German train attack and the Nice attack was obviously motivated by ISIS, not Islam.
I’m keeping an open mind about today’s atrocity.
I’m also anti grand sweeping I’ll thought-out statements. I’ll leave out the balaclava. Empowering as it feels, it is quite intimidating.
Micheal And the difference between Wahhabi Islam and ISLAMIC State is??
But Michael ISIS is motivated by Islam….
NO difference.
ISIS lives for Islam…
What an absolutely appalling attack on four innocent people – and the youngest seemed to be the most savagely attacked : (
French Police Arrest Moroccan Islamist who stabbed multiple times 3 children aged 8 12 14 before attacking their Mother. There I fixed the headline for the Journal.
Rowe, “And the difference between Wahhabi Islam and ISLAMIC State is??” Thats like asking whats the difference between Opus Dei and the Army of God. and implying either of them represent the majority of Christians.
Number of days that Europe has not been attacked by a Muslim 0
Michael…. what are you keeping an open mind to exactly? Are you hoping he’s 0.9% of Moroccans who are Christian or the 0.2% that follow Judaism. I’ll hedge my bets that he’s in the 98.9% category of Moroccans who follow Islam. This has all the hallmarks of a Islamic attack. Why would the initial reports turn out to be false.
Cholly, that is a common flaw in reasoning on your part. The highly probability is that the attacker is Muslim, even a practising Muslim, by that does not meant hat the reason for the heinous attacks was because of his religion.
Some stupid and prejudices people are Roman Catholics but they are nit stupid and prejudiced because they are Roman Catholic.
Michael you’re right . Muslim men don’t mind how women dress at all .. nothing to do with his religion. . Just his own personal views ..
An important KPI if I ever seen one!
It’s got everything to do with the religion!!! It’s got nothing to do with the general Muslim population but it’s got everything to do with the religion. It can be too easily and is readily turning young men and women into jihadis.
HSE?
Francis D. I never implied that they represent the majority of Muslims, but they do represent the same Salifist/Wahhabi doctrine, there is no doubt.
Islam can not exist in western world. Their backward beliefs do not belong in a progressive society. The celts has female warriors and queens a few thousand years ago. In Saudi Arabia women aren’t allowed to drive never mind owning their own chariot.
Why are western governments allowing in people that want to impose their medieval ways on our modern inclusive ways.
Men the world over have always tried to control women and dictate what they wear – just stop it guys!
If you think that life for women in Ireland was good before the 1960s, dream on… we were mere chattals, and that is a fact. And don’t give me your Brehon laws rubbish – here’s an old Irish Brehon law for you: “If a man takes a woman off on a horse, into the woods or onto a sea-going ship, and if members of the woman’s tribe are present, they must object within 24 hours or they may not demand payment of the fine.”
Meanwhile “Rebels” in Syria behead an 11 year old boy while yelling Allahu Ackbar! Seriously there is no ideology that comes even close to the barbarity of Islam.
Oh yeah and these murders can hop on a dinghy and be in Europe in a few days. Our Navy might even give them a lift, no passport required.
The Future is bright.
Those Sunni Wahabbi snuff videos are unwatchable…
Pt pat – Pardon me if I correct you there… there is a big difference between Islam and Islamism.
Peter Fetcher – To learn for myself exactly what Islamists were on about spreading their Islamism, I watched a beheading of an adult male on youtube once. It was done by an 11yr old boy, just as simply as if he was cutting the throat of a lamb. Not nice at all.
The boy was being trained – inured probably – for future killings of human beings in the same manner. This is what Islamism is, what they will do to you if you don’t agree with them – just as they did to many Yazidi people and many many others – this is what they want to impose on Western democratic societies, including ours in Europe, even in Ireland.
Pat in fairness those “rebels” are ISIS rebels you are referring to. The other rebels being the free Syrian army are fighting ISIS and Assad and are alligned to the west and are mistly secular. Dont put all the rebels in Syrua in the same boat!
Sorry Jengis i have to disagree with you there. Islamism is a bullshit made up word to distance the actions of Muslims from Islam. When the Westboro Babtist church do their protests it is because they follow Christianity not because of some made up word like Christinism.
Greg they weren’t ISIS they were from a “moderate” rebel group called Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki who are allied with the Free Syrian Army.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3697770/US-backed-Nour-al-Din-al-Zenki-behead-boy-accused-al-Quds-spy-Assad.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline#ixzz4EsAdfHaJ Like these Western backed rebels, Greg?
Jengis what is the big difference between Islam and Islamism?
Greg…the FSA are nothing..there are no secular rebels in Syria…and no rebels aligned with the west.At present Al Nusra are leading a coalition of 50+ wahabbi headhacker gangs in and around Aleppo…fighting a losing battle to keep the El Castillo road open.Correct me if you can but in my view only Sunni wahabbi anti Assad anti Russian anti American rebels can survive here.
Pt pat…sorry..but Nour Al din al Zenki are currently in an alliance with Jabhat Al Nusra…the rebranded Al Queda.Wahabbi headhackers.
The same as the difference between Republic and Republicanism. One is an ideal, the other is a forced violent interpretation of the other. Do you not have access to a dictionary or a thesaurus? Think Earth and Earthquake.
A Republic is a form of government, Republicanism is the ideology and a Republican is the follower of that ideology. There are both peaceful and violent Republicans but both follow Republicanism. A Caliphate is a form of government, Islam is the ideology and a Muslim is the follower of that ideology. There are both peaceful and violent Muslims but both follow Islam. One doesn’t follow Islam and the other Islamism. The Earth, earthquake comparison is silly.
The motive is Islam.
That’s just speculation.
More like a very well educated guess Michael.
Ohh yeee speculation yhmm dont you watch news like…every day???
An irrational and mentally disturbed outburst is more consistent with the known facts so far.
One Moroccan does not represent all of Islam.
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims… get real
There are non Muslim terrorists.
Clearly,Rafal, you have never heatf of The Tamil Tigers? ETA, the PFLP, FARC, the FLN etc.
Ah..historic or/and defunct terrorist groups…can i play too? The Baader-Meinhoff gang and Black September..now,your go….
Continuity IRA and Real IRA and some extreme far right groups.
@Rob O’Brien@Dermot…..Agree 100%. All Muslims are required to be involved in Jihad against the unbeliever . Some do it violently but the majority settle for funding Jihad through their annual 2.5% compulsory tax called ZAKAT. And all Muslims know where the money goes to.This enormous sum of money amounts to about $200Billion annually of which there are 8 categories of recipients. 1 category or 1/8 is allotted for active Jihad against the unbelievers. From the official handbook of Sharia Law-’The Reliance of the Traveller’ is pasted category 7.
…”H8.17: Those Fighting for Allah
The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses (O: for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. Though nothing has been mentioned here of the expense involved in supporting such people’s families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it)…”
http://islamexposed.blogspot.ie/2010/08/reliance-of-traveller-handbook-of.html
Im so sorry… allah be with you
Aaleikum Salaam.
Burn in hell
They are fighting for a cause where as ISIS and their followers want to exterminate us in the western world.
These other terrorist groups do not want to see the western world destroyed c
All terrorists are Muslim is simply NOT true – never heard of the Christian terrorist group the Army of God? In the US there are far more terrorist attacks by unbalanced people claiming to be acting on behalf of their Christian religion or allied to white supremacist or far right militia groups, than by Muslims – they just don’t get the same press as anybody who might possibly be Muslim… Examples:
Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre in 2012 – white supremacist murdered six people.
Huge number of abortion doctors murdered by far right Christian inspired terrorists in the US
Christian right sympathiser walked into Unitarian Church and opened fire on the crowd during a children’s play – killing a number and injuring many more
Countless mass shootings in black churches
Countless murders of individuals by Christian far right terrorists
Murder of three people in a Planned Parenthood building in November 2015 by extremist Christian… yet I hope nobody would say all people from Christian countries are terrorists or blame any Irish person for this act of a white Christian across the Atlantic!
Inspired by the truck attacker perhaps….it takes enormous courage to attack a woman and 3 girls with a knife before running away.
Perhaps or perhaps not. It looks like the actions of a very mentally disturbed man so far unless or until we see evidence of terrorist motivation.
Mentally ill? There seems to be a lot of “mentally ill” Muslims floating around Germany, Belgium and Germany these days…
*France.
I’m addressing this one specific incident.
The motivation was likely to be Islamic doctrines. The perpetrator was most likely offended by the presence of scantily clad kuffir females in close proximity to hus family and when they refused to cover up, decided to ‘rectify’ the situation.
That is a possibility, offence caused by scanty clothing, but it is also quite possible that the incident had nothing to do with clothing. The afresh Prosecutir has said that there is no evidence to support such speculative rumours.
The children were on their own on the terrace, their mother was inside, if they were scantily clad, they were mere children and it is not typical even if terrorists to attack people close to them.
Clothing is too trivial an excuse for such appalling savagery. Mental illness is a real possibility.
We’ll see. The truth will emerge in due course.
Hopefully so.
Do you guys have any solution to the scourge of male violence against women and children? It’s quite common for men (including Irish men) to attack and kill ex partners or ex-wives and their own children too following a separation, isn’t it?
I mean to say, it is incredible how you guys wish to stereotype Muslims but are not so willing to stereotype men (note, I am only saying this to highlight the hypocrisy – I personally do NOT wish to stereotype all men for the actions of relatively few). One thing we can be sure of in any violent attack is that it is very likely to be carried out by a man – so what do you guys have to say for yourselves??? Would you like to deport all men, as well as all Muslims?
they are not going to stop,they have to go it’s that simple!!!!!
Not really.
I know it’s not simple to implement,but the time has come to take a Donal trump type stance.
Is he related to Donald?
Ungrateful. The family should have been delighted to be culturally enriched by this generous man.
Round them up and kick them all out.
That is not a fair, sensible or proportionate solution but I suspect that this is just excitable rhetoric.
Just a test to see what the proportion of red and green thumbs would be.
Well you certainly got your green thumbs and I got red thumbs.
Interesting one qwerty – shows the unthinking knee-jerk reaction and how people have been wound up by the media…
“The motives for the attack were not immediately clear.”
I think most of us have a fair idea after recent events.
Our liberal elites are hopelessly blind to the Jihad we face against western democracy.
Yep, we have a fair idea that it is, yet again, a man attacking a woman and children. Our racists are hopelessly blind to the threat men pose to women and children!
Let’s hope the French people vote for Marine LePen as their next President, she is the only one who can save their civilization from this savage barbarism.
Right wing extremism is the consequence. In the longer term, It poses a greater internal threat than Jihadism.
Got some sort of magic wand, has she? I hear Trump has one too. Once they’re elected world peace will break out.
They might put their own citizens first rather than be afraid to labelled as racist. Islam is not a race! My wife family are Muslim and they had no problem with her marrying a submarine Catholic( I surface when I have to, weddings funerals christenings ect). Her aunties favourite time of the year is Christmas. Her and her friends come to London every year before Christmas to listen to Carrol services. She is Muslim and very religious but she does not wear anything that advertises she is Muslim. Most of Muslim women that live in the Middle East hate wearing medieval clothes. In Tehran the young women push it to the limits with the religious police.
Islamists are such cowards really though always attacking unarmed civilians.. Hope they all meet their 72 virgins really soon ..
He was Moroccan and a backward savage…
Meanwhile at ISIS HQ, a terrorist reading the journal shouts “we got one” “phone it in as one of ours”
I see this report of an attack on a defenceless woman and her children has been turned into a debate on Islam and Islamism.
Have a gander at this report from 2008 (runs for abt 7mins). It has been challenged of course but never disproven…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysBJ5G4m67s
@Jengis O’Can……….Very foreboding video. All ought watch. Canadians very concerned with rise of Islam and Muslims stoking up anti-white hatred among First Nations/Native Indians.
@ Patrick J O’Connor – I know Canadians are very concerned about the huge influx of Muslim immigrants and of possible latent Islamists. For example, there is a huge Muslim population in Toronto, so big that it has very many Muslim elected public representatives.
There was an attempt by these public representatives to have Sharia Law imposed over democratic law in the city’s environs. The vote was narrowly defeated. They’re quite happy about that because they believe their day will come.
@Jengis O’Can…………Muslims are are all over Canada now. Last week 6 Canadian cities signed and endorsed a charter against ‘Islamophobia’. This term is repeated by Islamo-Fascist and Islamo terrorist apologists regularly here on the Journal. Though off topic I’ll paste from Jihadwatch report below and then off line temp.,-
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…”This “Islamophobia” business is a dangerous victimology narrative used by stealth jihadists to serve an agenda, as proclaimed by a former representative of the International Institute for Islamic Thought who was present at the inception of the use of this term. Abdur-Rahman Muhammad stated about “Islamophobia”:
“This loathsome term is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics….”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/six-canadian-cities-sign-a-charter-against-islamophobia
Do you know what happened the last time the population of Europe declined and Islamic influence grew? The Renaissance happened. All of the scientific and philosophical learning which had been lost since the fall of the Roman Empire and largely suppressed by the Catholic Church was re-introduced to Europe via Muslim immigration. Italy became a cultural hub once again and Europe underwent a fantastic cultural revolution leading to all of the scientific advances we have today, the rest is history.
Multiculturalism is central to the growth and evolution of societies. The sooner we dispense with all of this racist BS the better, then we can then actually get to the root of the fundamentalist problem and continue to evolve as a species.
@ Patrick J O’Connor – I had a look at that, thanks… you and yr diminishing demographical children still have the right – and power – to change it.
After some thought on what you posted, I give the following:
- we have to distinguish between Islam, Islamism and Islamists. Without pardoning, I’m blading through this discussion with some info that many seem to be missing in our wider world and, in Ireland, especially.
I know that followers of Islam have been misled throughout the centuries since Muhammad but that does not mean they are non-believers. They do honestly believe – but hugely misguidedly so – because Muhammad was a total conman of his time, a very smart, intelligent abuser of people.
Historically, within all of Arabia’s villages’ of his time, he was banished from Mecca, a small village of the time some 1400yrs ago, populated by Jews, Christians and nomadic people, because he’d become a detested violent criminal in the village, a known robber, rapist and child abuser – and because of that banishment, he had to live in a cave outside Mecca.
Christian missionaries passing through the Mecca area “spreading the word” encountered him, took pity on him living in a cave, cold at night, tried to convert him to Christianity.
He took on board what they said, mixed it with Jewish customs that he already knew about and – “hey-whackadoo” – he founded his own religion based on a mix of both Jewish and Christian beliefs, adopting almost every of all things of Christian and Jewish beliefs and merging them with his own mental ideas, except for the bits that didn’t agree with in his criminal mind and allowing him and his fellow criminal followers to rack through the other villages of Arabia and onwards from there…
The only way he could he could accomplish that was by his own violent means, recruiting people like himself – violent criminal ones, tearing through Mecca and other villages of Arabia – which persist through to this day in Islamism, wherever it is, on our Planet Earth.
That’s why all Jews, Christians and un-free Muslim women – and most Muslim men too – in Arabian and other countries know that Islam is a totally false religion and that Islamists and Islamism are on the wrong track… chasing seven angelic virgins in heaven, millions of devils in hell, or none or all of those.
Conor…Islam doesnt do “multi”culturalism….havent you noticed? Islam cannot coexist with other cultures…maybe you should be posting on THEIR journal….
@Peter: Of course, you’re right – Muslims totally weren’t “doing” multiculturalism when their scholars were wandering Southern Europe teaching Greek philosophy to Christians in the run up to the Renaissance. The only people on the planet who don’t “do” multiculturalism are racists, fundamentalists and the occasional isolated jungle tribe.
If you honestly think Muslims can’t successfully integrate with other cultures then you’ve clearly never been to London or New York, or Morocco for that matter…
@Jengis O’Can………Very succinct. Great style. May be difficult for some uninitiated to believe history of conman Mohammed and how he got started but you hit that part on the nail.
Conor…you are partly right…ive not been to New York or Morocco and i accept that pre renaissance muslim scholars wandered europe….but then Wahib made his play – Wahabbism became a factor…and THAT Islam became history.Wahabbism cannot embrace/accept multiculturalism…but other muslim sects can and do…Akmadiya,Alawite,Shia…
@ Conor – No disrespect intended but think you’ve lost the tracks – and tracts – of the intensity of this discussion.
I know what you mean but, in Ireland, present-day multi-Multiculturalism of the kind we Irish are experiencing doesn’t belong to us in Ireland AND it is being resisted in a quiet way by LOTS of Irish people.
We are Irish people are of an island that’s being… well… invaded… again… this time by Muslim people who should be back home in their own countries, tackling their own governments for the abuses their own Governments impose on them and not shipping to Ireland as a back door to Britain’s dis-united- kingdom .
They don’t belong to Ireland and will never belong to Ireland. Their hearts are well outside Ireland, back home in their own home countries… and the beliefs that they have are still from their own countries, their own cultures – cultures that don’t belong on the island of Ireland, no matter how many festivals they may have been *cough cough* respectfully allowed, and enjoyed in laughter by us Irish, to have.
The stark fact is that, amongst us Irish people, NO MUSLIM belongs in or of ANY part of Ireland.
I wish some of us Irish, maybe all of us Irish, would stand up and say “Your loyalties are suspect… go home to where from where you came from”.
But then, I would say that… just because I’m Irish true and through.
@Peter, great so it sounds like we’re broadly on the same page then – fundamentalists bad, Muslims good.
@Jengis I’m not sure why I inserted myself into this depressing conversation with anonymous internet dwellers so this will be my last comment. I’m pretty sure I can grasp the “tracks” of this intense discussion. Your viewpoint, from how you have explained it, seems to essentially boil down to “I am suspicious of people who are not culturally similar to me, so they shouldn’t be allowed in my country.”
I’d just like you to know that, although you are of course entitled to your opinions, that sort of mentality is not tolerated in the Ireland that I live in. As a foreign national living in Ireland (fully integrated by the way), I can tell you that if the majority of Irish people welcome Muslims the way they welcomed me, we will not have any issues with them. Hate speech and the spread of the sort of vitriol you are spouting above will only exaggerate the differences between us.
Another thing I’d like to say – you seem to have a very distinct idea of what it means to be “Irish”. What exactly is “Irish” these days? The only reason I ask is that Ireland is not some sort of ethnically pure Utopia. You may consider yourself to be Irish, but in reality it’s probably more accurate to say you’re some sort of Saxon/Norman/Celt/whatever, living in a culture that is becoming rapidly Americanized. So don’t act like you’re speaking for the entire Irish population, you’re just holding the entire human race back with your bigotry.
That’s the end of my little rant now, because there are only so many ways to say “Not all Muslims are terrorists”, as it’s really quite a simple concept. Hope I have given you some food for thought, bye
I think we need to root out the control of the Catholic church on our legislation and state before we worry about Islam! Or course some more extreme religious people will call on the state to mirror their religious beliefs – bishops and the Iona Institute do it here too every day. The best defence against that is an avowedly secular state (which we unfortunately do not have in Ireland at this time)…
Stop being so hysterical and scared of everything – most terrorist attacks have a motive (from the IRA bombs in London to current attacks by Muslims and Christian fundamentalists) and they are very clear about it. Canada has not been involved in illegal invasions of Muslim countries, to my knowledge, and they are not conducting air strikes against ISIS or against civilians in Middle Eastern countries, so they will not be attacked. Ditto Ireland. Billions of Muslims live in peace in their communities – the distasteful thing about this hysteria is that it makes people behave horribly towards those ordinary Muslims people – which is about as horrible as spitting at a harmless nun in the street.
The muzrat s(um are at it again, it’s every day now at this stage.
That poor poor family! Its so shocking
Time for the reqonquista to begin, round them up, ship them out , a mediaeval solution for a dark age ideology, they won’t stop pushing and the kicking off point is coming closer everyday. Time to face reality!
Those That Deny Freedom To Others
Do Not Deserve It For Themselves
………………………………………………………..
Michael OLainin….Who the hell are you? You are certainly not Irish and I have a feeling that you are a Muslim. A Muslim that is part of a well oiled machine setup to defend the indefensible acts and atrocities carried out by Muslims on a daily basis world wide. I have noticed on here that there are a bunch of very Irish sounding names posting on here justifying Muslim atrocities! They all use the same methodology and they all sing from the same hymn sheet! Reminds me a bit of old Dingle Holiday, but u are a lot more clever and sinister than he ever was! You suck naive people in with your deceit, your lies and your whataboutery! You are hypocrites & bulls&itters! This ideology that you are always defending is a worse and more dangerous ideology than Hitler and his 3rd Reich and you know how we got rid of that shower? People are going to have to wake to the fact (hopefully not too late) that there is a day of reckoning coming down the line. They will be presented with 2 choices do noting and become enslaved and butchered by your ideology or stand up and fight till this cancerous ideology is wiped from the face of the earth.
Well I am definitely NOT a Muslim – an atheist who was brought up a Catholic in Ireland. However, I stand against stereotyping and racism. If you wish to say Muslims are bad and prone to terrorism, then I insist you carry this to its logical conclusion and say Christians are bad because of the huge number of far right Christian acts of terrorism in the US, or that men are bad because the one thing we know for sure is that (religion aside) nearly all these atrocities will be committed by men! Let’s just forget that billions of Muslims live in peace, and that many men are NOT violent to women – and let’s just stereotype everybody! Deport all Muslims, deport all men!!!
One clearly very disturbed Moroccan does not represent all of Islam.
Over generalisation about Islam based on the actions of one adherent is an invalid and unsound approach.
This has everything to do with Islam you absolute coon.
You’re exactly the type of Person Maajid Nawaz and The Quillian foundation has been talking about.
Your deniability to say it doesn’t represent Islam just makes it harder for Muslims who want to come out even harder, due to the chances that they be beat up or killed for speaking out.
Cop the hell on man.
Well if it was only one “clearly disturbed” Moroccan man who was doing this shit you would be right but this is happening nearly every day, and it is only getting more common.
Islam is the reason these people are disturbed.
Poor Chris, a wee bit excitable and abusive there. It is better to be temperate and thoughtful. Prejudice is not a policy.
It is important to be rational, proportionate and fair. Demonising all of Islam will not produce a sensible or effective solution.
Michael….because of the cumulative effect of this and 1000′s of other..many much worse..atrocities carried out by Muslims and indeed if this gentleman is simply insane…you are at best conducting a rearguard mission for Sunni Islam in Europe….it does seem daily now.
Pt Pat, I have seen no evidence that Islam was the motivating factor. We need to maintain a sense of responsibility and balance.
Do you know who Maajid Nawaz and the Quillian foundation is ??
I’ll give you one guess ???
BINGO.
That’s right. They’re Reform Muslims(Maajid being the person and Quillian foundation being a group of x-jihad fighters) who actually call a spade a spade.
Last time I checked coon wasn’t an insult.
Most recent horrible crimes have been done by people with extreme islamic views so this case does look like it was a f**ked up muslim
“Coon” is just racist invective.
@Pt pat…..or sometimes 2/3 times a day. 3 police an 2 civilians murdered by ISIS terrorist in Kazakhastan 2 days ago.
…”A lone gunman with Islamist links killed at least three policemen and two civilians in Kazakhstan’s financial capital Almaty on Monday, senior security officials said, the second such attack in less than two months….”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kazakhstan-shooting-idUSKCN0ZY0DY
I dunno. Look how women are treated in the Arab world.
Look how they are treated everywhere – including Africa, where there is a terrorist militant Christian group that kidnapped women too… it is ironic that nobody says what is plain and obvious – men have always killed women and children and subjected them to intimidation and violence and it happens in Ireland all the time too – why is this elephant in the room ignored in favour of stereotyping Muslim people?
Subhuman vermin, how many more people will die or get hurt before we realise that it is not beneficial in any way to allow or have these people in Europe? Mass deportation is the order of the day regardless of whether or not they were born here, being born here does not make them european. As soon as they commit such atrocities they should be kicked out asap, back to the land of origin. They say this is only a minority ? Well imo this is becoming far too common to be considered only a minority. Showing true colours maybe?
But it is not that common at all, is it, considering the billions of Muslims in the world! You seem to be conflating country of origin and religion with violent terrorism – that is just not right. You might as well say that, as the IRA plant bombs, all Irish Catholics should be deported from the UK! That is witch hunt mentality.
There are features of the atrocious attach on the 3 girls and on their mother which are not typical of random terrorism.
The man was staying next door to the victims, he directly attacked the three children, knifing them and then attacked the mother. He fled. He is not reported as uttering any Islamic religious statements.
The attacker was on holidays with his own pregnant wife and children.
The mere fact that the attacker is Moroccan and launched an almost lethal,attack does not in and if itself necessarily mean that this was a terrorist motivated attack. It may or may not have been terrorist motivated. There is nit enough evidence yet to draw a conclusion
Keep at it Michael even though you know you are wrong what Merkel has done to Europe is unforgivable
Many Irish men kill women and children too. Never mind, Michael – haters are gonna hate.
The attacker has been apprehended and hopefully can be questiined as to his motivation, if he is mentally competent to be questioned and to give coherent answers.
The psychology of the attacker needs to be understood.
It was an appalling and horrific attack but these cases need to be understood so as to get an accurate profile on the personality type and characteristics of such potential attackers.
I believe he’s infected with a mental illness called Islam.
On that logic, there are 1.3 billion killers waiting to attack.
Your logic and intelligence maybe wasted here Michael I fear! The fact that the US for example has many more attacks and shootings by militant Christians – but nobody is blaming any Irish person who may be a Christian for that – will also be lost on them.
Life has changed dramatically here in Ireland in recent times especially with our new mantra “” Be politically correct ” I can’t help but think when crime is committed be it sexual assaults, murder etc, it might help to report each crime as Joe or Mary Blogs and their relatives, and leave colour, creed and nationality out of report, simply be ourselves and don’t feed criminals egos !
Indeed – for example, nearly 100% of violent crime is committed by men but, unlike the racists, I would not wish all men to be stereotyped for that, or to have to explain themselves.
Raphael Balland, the public prosecutor at Gap in France, has scotched rumours that the attacker made any remarks that had to do with the victims being scantily clothed.
It is premature yet to be drawing cnclusiins that the attacks were religiously motivated.
The attacks were appalling and horrible but it is too soon to draw conclusions for the motivation.
Micheal, try being a girl in a fundamentalist society and dress the way you want, you would not last, you think people veil for the craic? why do you think the men don’t have to cover up?
That’s a separate issue. Islam is misogynistic and oppressive of women. That’s an undeniable reality.
Some other religions are also misogynistic and oppressive of women but less so, such as Roman Catholicism.
Too late….ive drawn conclusions.
Peter, prejudice facilitates the drawing of premature conclusions.
Michael…True.
Try being a young LGBT person in an Irish state education system that trots out only the strict Catholic line in school because it is all controlled by the church! Try being an Irish young woman in an Irish state education system that tells you sex before marriage and contraception are a sin.
Babarian!! Cowardly act by a deranged individual!!! Sick and twisted. Attacking defenceless people including an 8 year old girl!!!
Why do men do these things so much – killing women and children – we had a similar tragic incident in Ireland in the last day or two, when a man stabbed his partner and deliberately killed himself and his son… Irish men kill their wives and their own children on a regular basis. What can we do to stop this male violence – any ideas?
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