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Radio wars: RTÉ Radio One is still killing its rivals but major shows are now losing listeners

The latest JNLRs have been released.

RTÉ RADIO ONE continues to dominate the national airwaves, producing 18 of the 20 most listened to radio shows in the country.

The latest JNLR figures for April to June show that the national broadcaster now has two shows that are listened to by over 400,000 people.

Despite this, many of RTÉ’s top draws have lost listeners in the second three months of the year.

Today FM and Newstalk both say they are pleased with today’s JNLR results having grown their market shares to 7.7% and 6.3% respectively.

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RTÉ Radio One

  • Morning Ireland continues to be comfortably the most listened to radio show in the country with 449,000 listeners. That’s 16,000 more than last year but 11,000 fewer than in April. 
  • At the weekends, Marian Finucane‘s 400,000 listeners on Saturday and 321,000 listeners on Sunday make her shows the second and sixth most listened to radio shows.
  • Liveline continues its popularity as the third most listened to show in the country, with an average of 391,000 listeners a day. That’s 22,000 more than last year and about the same as three months ago.
  • The News at One is the fourth most listened to show with 348,000 daily listeners, down slightly on the previous JNLRs but up on a yearly basis.
  • Today with Seán O’Rourke remains where it is both in terms of position and listeners with 326,000 people tuning in each morning.
  • The Ray D’Arcy Show in the mid-afternoon is down by 6,000 to 211,000 listeners but is also up compared to last year.
  • Drivetime presented by Mary Wilson has a bigger audience than its post-work commuting rivals on Today FM and Newstalk with 236,000 listeners.

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Two of RTÉ’s biggest stars, Ryan Tubridy and Miriam O’Callaghan both keep their places in the top 10 (7th and 10th), but their shows have lost numbers since the last JNLR release.

The Ryan Tubridy Show commands 319,000 listeners, down 3,000 on the last time out. Sunday with Miriam gets 247,000 listeners every week, 9,000 fewer than in April.

Today FM 

The country’s most listened to private radio station has 100,000 more listeners a week than RTÉ’s 2FM, with the station saying that the results meant “a good day all around for Today FM”.

  • Breakfast radio veteran Ian Dempsey has kept the top spot in the battle of the morning chat shows with 180,000 loyal listeners, the same as his previous figure.
  • The Last Word with Matt Cooper gets 139,000 listeners a night for the early evening news slot, a jump of 7,000 listeners.
  • The Anton Savage Show is the only Today FM show to lose listeners since last time out, shedding 1,000 listeners for an audience of 174,000.

Today FM’s Fergal D’Arcy also added another 3,000 listeners to his evening show, the 7-9pm time slot which Louise Duffy is set to take over from August.

RTÉ 2FM 

In terms of national market share, RTÉ 2FM just pips Newstalk into third place with the station also saying that it has overtaken Today FM in the 15-34 age bracket.

The station’s Breakfast Republic has 151,000 listeners while The Nicky Byrne Show with Jenny Greene has 136,000 listeners, both figures are down on three months ago.

The Tracy Clifford Show has 114,000 listeners and The Eoghan Mc Dermott Show has 112,000 listeners.

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Newstalk

There have been loads of changes to Newstalk’s line-up recently, most notably at Newstalk Breakfast and with George Hook’s move to early afternoon. Hook is to be replaced with Chris Donoghue and Sarah McInerny on ‘Newstalk Drive’ from September.

So with that in mind, here are Newstalk’s last JNLRs with those old line ups:

  • Newstalk Breakfast has 163,000 daily listeners, down about 8,000 since the end of January
  • The Pat Kenny Show is up by 5,000 since April with 131,000 listeners a day.
  • George Hook’s time as presenter on his usual slot comes to an end with 132,000 daily listeners on The Right Hook.
  • Newstalk’s most popular radio show continues to be Off The Ball with 194,000 weekend listeners.

Dublin versus the rest of the country

Overall, the figures show that 83% of Irish adults listen to the radio every day.

National radio stations hold the majority share position in Dublin (57.2%) and the greater Dublin commuter belt (57.0%), while regional radio is in the majority in the other regions throughout the country.

Local radio in particular achieves its highest share position in the north west (64.1%), Cork (61.3%) and south west regions (60.3%).

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    Mute TK Maxx To Castlebar
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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:15 PM

    Maybe if America wasn’t too chicken to tell their ‘allies’ Saudi Arabia to stop funding ISIS

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    Mute European Infidel
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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:19 PM

    The House of Saud has the power to destroy the US economy if it ever decided to stop selling oil in US dollars,it also has huge investments in the States.The Americans sold their soul to the Wahabbis years ago.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:44 PM

    ARAMCO look it up. Business that’s what the Mid East is all about. And not upsetting Saudi!

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:48 PM

    Exactly european infidel that’s why the Americans let them away with it

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:49 PM

    Re European Infidel

    Just on the Petrodollar. You are right. US citizens would have to buy a loaf of bread with a trolley load of paper money if that ever happened.

    The process has started. Russia and China are beginning to stop using the dollar and the UK has stopped trading with it. The US is not stupid. 90% of the Petrodollars are held overseas , are foreign. I believe they intend to back only the 10% based in the US, thus screwing the whole world. I believe this will happen in the next 6-18 months. They intend to use the gold they have been running and storing up for this. What gold?

    Well, we know the US repatriated all of Ukraines gold the moment the new government came to power as collateral for fiat paper money. We know they took all the Libyan gold when they illegally invaded that sovereign country. And we know there are major questions over the gold in Iraq.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:04 PM

    Genius Horgay, absolute genius. You could make a small fortune by shorting the dollar. Better still, put half your savings on shorting the dollar, and the other half go long with gold. Can’t lose! You will be backing that statement with your own hard earned cash now, won’t you?

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:24 PM

    Re Jurgen

    I’m backing it with silver and crypto currencies. I’d buy gold but I can’t afford. It is only one persons opinion but I know paper fiat money cannot keep pace with oil rising nearly 800% over a few short years. Metals have shown that hold their value throughout history.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:37 PM

    I like a guy who puts money where his mouth is! True re precious metals. I am interested in how much % of your entire portfolio/savings are you putting in;
    1. Silver
    2. Crypto currency (I presume Bitcoin)

    Never went near Bitcoin myself as it fluctuates so wildly. Brave.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:49 PM

    Anyone reading you’d be well advised to ignore the last two comments if you want to hold on to your money. You’d think people would be wise to this nonsense by now.

    ”buy gold it’s never gone down!! sure thing investment we super swear” …uh huh…pick up your bulgarian apartment on your way out as well…

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:09 PM

    Oh you would need to have balls of steel to stay in bit coin. No commercial organisations would touch it as there is no commodities to back it up. Normal currencies are back by central banks and betted against many things such as oil gas oranges but the likes of bit coin is not. Hence why no henge funds or pension investments are not bit coin. But you know. Fools and their money.

    Interesting as he heard of petro dollar from an obvious you tube anti everything video as economics does not seem his strong suit does it b Lowe. Incidentally how many accounts are you using these days? ? Think we had you for about 4 yeah?

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:12 PM

    Re Jurgen

    I’ve put a bit of money into Darkcoin. It might flop or it might rise 1,000%.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:13 PM

    Ryan, as much as I am skeptical of Horgay’s claims, gold can form a good defensive part of an investment portfolio. It has suffered in the last 2 – 3 years, but since around 2001 ish it has been extremely good.
    About 5% or even 10% is a reasonable part of a portfolio, hence the reason I ask Horgay. It would be very brave of him to state the actual amount in dollars/euros he invested as this would really be putting his reputation on the line. However I guess that would be getting too personal and I am happy to know what % of his portfolio he invested. We can see how it works out in 18 months. Long shot IMO, but high risk = high reward.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:15 PM

    Gold does go down all things do so yes ryan your right. Id say good direction to put money at minute is companies that mine rare earth minerals. Until some new polymer tech comes its going to be expanding industry. But just dont always bet on tech or bit coins. Remember about 99 or 00 the dot com bubble…. POP.

    Always a good investment is good art. Possible to drop too but as LTI its a steady ship.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:22 PM

    Horgay I specifically asked about % you put in silver and crypto currency. As you seem to really believe in your predictions, I think stating the % of portfolio you actually invest is a fair question as it puts on record your real faith in your prediction.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:23 PM

    Darkcoin. Very brave. There are anything up to 60 currencies out there. Possible two will survive 10 yrs. But boat is gone on all of those money making schemes now. Its a silly investors who buys into a flooded market. But its your money.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:30 PM

    10% in gold is a great idea if the rest of your portfolio is in equity & FI (not so much commodities beyond the metals) as they are negatively correlated. If the majority of your portfolio is in obscure crypto currencies I find the best hedge is a prayer at night time!

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:56 PM

    The US funds and trains these people too

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:44 PM

    Horgay, your failure to answer such a basic question would indicate to me that, in fact, you are not prepared to much money behind your stated belief. Talk is very cheap.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:56 PM

    Talk is very cheap on here. Worth 0.0000000001% of a darkcoin :)

    I actually put 20 euro on lite coins there a few months ago just out of curiosity. Meh to make anything out of that yoy would need to invest many many thousands for a decent return and you risk really really risk losing mist of it. The other way is to mine them and your spending more on your esb bill then your making :)

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 11:16 PM

    Horgay, what do you use to buy the silver with? I doubt it’s the dollar. I have a feeling that you are poor anyway.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 11:20 PM

    European, if the Saudis pulled their investments out of the US where would they go with them? There is a reason why people and countries invest in the US as it’s a safe bet.
    The Chinese feel the same way.

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 1:08 AM

    The fact that they use the dollar to sell their oil is more important then any investments they have. You don’t understand the economics behind the petro- dollar do you?Research it and then you will see why the Saudis have undue influence on the USA.

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 2:44 AM

    European, the US gets most of its oil from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and domestic sources. Go research it yourself. I doubt that you know about economics yourself.

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 12:36 PM

    Mate I did my research and I’m not an economics expert but I understand what the petro dollar is.It’s clear you haven’t a clue.Once again the point completely washes over your head.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:06 PM

    American foreign policy has destabilised the whole Middle East.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:16 PM

    The whole Middle East? Seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:16 PM

    A lot of the blame can also be laid at Saudi Arabia’s door.They supply the funding and is the source of the insane Salafi/Wahhabi ideology that fuels these animals.The House of Saud is a stain on humanity.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:26 PM

    J Dunn..

    . except Israel of course…

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:39 PM

    Oman, Kuwait just a minute there, Frank. I was splitting hairs with, Kevin.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:10 PM

    & they can’t blame Putin on it either :), & a warning to us all ,the same nut cases that backed these psycho savages in Syria. …. Have backed the same savages in the Ukraine …..

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:21 PM

    And domestically the same nut cases are spreading lies using false flag terrorism to usher in gun control, attack civil liberties and spy on everyone…..history book repeating itself..

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:06 PM

    ha American destabilises anyone country they want for their natural resources

    #massivehypocrisy

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:21 PM

    I’d like to send some inspectors to your house, Richard.

    #WeaponsOfHashDestruction

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:23 PM

    #hahahahahahaha

    #ittakemoreefforttheyiexpectedtocomeupwithpointlesshashtags

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:08 PM

    Obama’s head hacking comrades will only destabilize other countries when he himself orders them to go there…

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:32 PM

    What’s hilarious is seeing all the neo-cons all over the US news now with an ”I told you so” attitude as if they were the ones who were right!!

    Their argument is we should never have left…they stayed for 10 years I mean how much longer would it have taken? No amount of troops would have fixed Iraq, it never should have existed to begin with it was lazy lines written by a long dead Brit that took no account of tribal affiliation.
    A lot of the Obama lovers here and in the states seem to forget , or don’t know, that he tried to have troops stay even longer in this cauldron, something that can be added to his already myriad of broken promises along with healthcare, financial reform…the Iraqis told him no so in reality it was the status of forces agreement that BUSH negotiated that eventually expired and thats why US troops left Iraq it had jack all to do with Obama.

    The most contradictory part of the neo con argument though, when you listen to Senators Graham and McCain is that they casually say the Iraqi PM ”has to go”’….erm lads…he was elected…the entire point of your argument was to bring Iraq democracy……..

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:42 PM

    Considering the fact that Iraqi forces in Mosul literally collapsed when faced with conflict, I would take that as a good indication that the Iraqi Security Forces simply weren’t in a position to handle a US departure and could have definitely done with the US remaining longer.

    Whether you agree or not with the troops being there in the first place, the evidence clearly shows Iraq was not ready for the US to leave.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:45 PM

    The Iraqis have themselves to blame, not the US. Despotic leader Saddam Hussein brought about the invasion of his country twice, intransigence in the face of UN sanctions as his people suffered. Two free elections since they elect sectarians like Maliki. Civil war is inevitable.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:54 PM

    Re Stephen

    You mentioned UN sanctions and Saddam Hussein together. What do you mean? What UN sanctions are you talking about?

    Do you mean the program of genocide implemented by the UN and backed by the West against the Iraqi people for daring to defy the ‘West’ and it’s institutions? Half a million Iraqi children alone died as a result of this.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:57 PM

    UN sanctions that were prolonged because of Saddam Hussein’s intransigence. Yes

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:29 PM

    Jason… It suited America to pull its forces out of Iraq to pave the way for the next phase of their proxy terrorist war….. Disableise Syria and Iran with their USA / Saudi sponsored and armed Takfiri rebels.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:53 PM

    @Jason you need to rewind further, it was the US that came in and disbanded the Iraqi millitary to begin with, this was a painfully stupid decision. They should have struck a deal with them and made them partners in rebuilding. Instead they made thousands of well armed well trained men p1ssed off and unemployed.

    Knowing the situation as I do (I’ve made something of a study of it to try to make up for my stupidity in supporting the invasion in the first place, in my defense I was a teenager, what was Bushs’ excuse) I don’t think the problems even the Iraqi forces it’s Iraq itself, it could only be held together with an iron fist because it was never meant to be a country.
    It will probably either return to dictatorship or break apart in some way.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:59 PM

    Ryan, in the aftermath of WW2 any German that was a member of the Nazi party was excluded from being a part of the new German administration. Sunnis were not specifically excluded from the new Iraqi army or administration only members of the Ba’ath party.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:05 PM

    That kind of thinking was total lunacy. Iraq was not Germany, there were no similarities or parallels between the two situations.

    Political party membership and ethnicity are not the same thing.
    You had to be a member of the Baath party just to advance in Iraq, it did not mean you supported everything they did. Making an entire military unemployed…in a country where honor and dignity are held in such high esteem and tied up with a fragile male ego…it was soooooo STUPID

    It’s indefensible and history will condem them for it.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:10 PM

    Hindsight makes you feel like a genius today

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:17 PM

    see thats the thing,they were ready in mosul BEFORE the americans arrived,you are looking at it all wrong

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:40 PM

    “Do you mean the program of genocide”

    Genocide in Iraq, genocide in Syria and genocide in the Ukraine. I’m convinced you don’t know what that word even means.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:07 PM

    Stephen you really don’t know what your talking about.To hold any government job in Iraq under Saddam be it civil service or army membership of the Baath party was mandatory.In other words if you wanted the job,you had no choice but to be a member.
    That comparison with Nazi Germany is straight out of the Dick Cheney line of reasoning you can actually see Cheney repeating much that exact line you spouted on an interview with Bill O reilly.
    The simple truth is sacking the entire army,was the biggest fcuk up,in all the many fcuk ups regarding Iraq.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 10:27 PM

    @EI. So your argumentation is if Cheney said something then according to you it is irrefutably wrong? You are just showing how biased you are. I didn’t say I agreed with dismantling the Iraqi army but there was a precedent for excluding Baathist s from being part of the new administration as was the case with Nazi party members in Germany. It did seem to do Germany any harm

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:04 PM

    Read ; I feel like invading other countries.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:41 PM

    ISIS seizes major cities and areas(Riqqa) in Syria and it goes undocumented in Western media. ISIS captures areas and cities in Iraq and it’s splashed all over the propaganda media.

    ISIS uses US made TOW Missiles in Syria which were supplied to the ‘moderate’ rebels. ISIS uses US made weaponry in Iraq and it’s splashed all over the front pages.

    The sons of Erdogan (current leader of Turkey) are photographed with leaders of ISIS where they are seen standing beside decapitated heads and this goes unreported in Western media.

    Obama in the article states that ISIS are so extreme that the population will reject them in time and implies they will fall once this happens. He fails to see Palestine where Israel has subjected the Palestinians to barbaric treatment and are still in control generations later.

    The US greatest Ally, Saudi Arabia, a regime worse than the most evil fascist governments directly funds ISIS yet no coverage in Western media.

    I do not believe this is an ISIS led operation, ISIS are a small part of an uprising of the Iraqi people against the Malaki government.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:10 PM

    The Maliki government is Shia like the overall majority of Iraqis, there is no uprising it is again a proxy invasion, full spectrum dominance, the regime change in Iraq backfired on them and this is their way to pressure the Iraqi government.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:40 PM

    Seems to me that the bush and Obama puppets are the ones stoking up extremism at the behest of bankers and dirty corporations but of course Afghanistan caused 9/11 and Iraq had WMD lol.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:19 PM

    Either the US has become fossil fuel independent since fracking, or they currently have the worst president in their history. I think it’s the latter!

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 5:57 PM

    Time to bring the democracy.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 6:34 PM

    Frank is of the view that no article is complete until he posts a link to something else under it.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:16 PM

    Neal Ireland….. A picture dose say 1000 words…. Saves me writing paragraphs..

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:46 PM

    Neal, I agree with you,, Frank is a nutter , full of hate trying to push his stupid opinions on to other people , and he is wrong on everything .

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:57 PM

    Bridget Ohara … Your Obama Phone must be needing an upgrade by now.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:03 PM

    Bridget frank is actually grand :) more just throwing tge stupidest stuff out there to see if there is a bite and fair play he always lands a fish. But he could be psychotic I just think the chaps having fun :)

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:22 PM

    whether you agree or not with frank,he is entitled to comment and provide links,dont click on them if you dont want and i have never really seen much hate from him either, i dont agree with everything he says but at least he contributes other than just to knock others views

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:28 PM

    Frank, you are so wrong again!! F#ck you.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:32 PM

    James, you hit the nail on the head. PSYCHOTIC … Is the word.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:54 PM

    Bridget Ohara ….It must be way past your bed time….

    You are getting a wee bit cranky….

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 11:00 PM

    The extremists that started all this is called the United states of America. The best funded and organised terrorist unit in the world.

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 3:58 AM

    Did you actually read the news article or did you just race all the way down to comment?

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:04 PM

    To put this thing in a nutshell…

    Obama knows that Iraqi extremists will be destabalise other countries…..

    …Because he is pulling the strings.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:35 PM

    I wish all the sanctimonious US haters on this forum would get their story straight, Obama is either the most stupid or the most deviously smart president, some of the same posters on this forum use both narratives

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:12 PM

    Really they could destabilise the country? Didn’t take a genius to figure that one out

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:13 PM

    @Rena Farrell. RTE?

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:35 PM

    Stephen O’Sullivan US Hating and US Administration hating are two entirely separate things.

    Obama is not stupid…

    …..One of the characters of the Devil is to be deceptive.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:48 PM

    Syria in the Crosshairs …Obama Confirms Airstrikes Will Not Be Limited to Iraq

    http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/06/22/syria-in-the-crosshairs-obama-confirms-airstrikes-will-not-be-limited-to-iraq/

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 7:41 AM

    Stephen, strange as it may sound, psychologists who have studied conspiracy theorists have discovered that many of them doggedly hold on to conflicting theorys that are actually mutually exclusive, ie. for one theory to be ‘true’ the other one clearly has to be false, but the theorists believes in the truth of both equally!
    http://www.psypag.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Issue-88.pdf

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:34 PM

    The countries in the Gulf region, Israel excepted, are governed by monarchies of one sort or another with a deeply embedded religious component. The real reason for US and European imposed democratic models is a desire to control these areas on account of oil. The monarchy style of government best suits this region. They will sort themselves out if left to it and borders will have to change. It will result in loss of life so did WW1 which was fought by the monarchies of Europe and in the end created many new countries. The democracies simply fail to understand the dynamics of the Gulf Region.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:34 PM

    Dear Mr Obama, in case you haven’t noticed Pakistan is coming to the boil.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 7:12 PM

    Obama seems to lag behind everyone else in realising what’s going on.
    PS ISIS have taken a border crossing into Jordan.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 8:09 PM

    Oh by the way, The only way Obama know what’s going on is by watching the tv news!

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:11 PM

    Don’t be fooled into thinking Obama doesn’t know what’s going on, that’s called plausible deniability, something the administrations over there are very good at…

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:58 PM

    Just like the US has in somalia, Yemen, Afhganistan, Diego Garcia…………………..

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:50 PM

    An interesting article about the origens of ISIS, containing short clip where Dick Cheney forsaw the oucome of an Iraq invasion, but still went ahead with it a few years later.
    http://pontiactribune.com/?p=456

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:34 PM

    I don’t know for sure if Jurgen and James O donahue are americans but I can fairly guess with the threatening language they are using re. peoples accounts and so on. The Big Boys huh.

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 10:05 PM

    Sure am. All the way from texas yeeehaaaaa.

    Are you kidding me. Check out tge name. Check out the language used. American me arse. Irish to the core

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 10:22 PM

    Maureen, what threatening language? I simply asked Horgay what % of his investment portfolio he puts in metal and crypto currency. Which he hadn’t answered. Me being American has nothing to do with it.

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    Jun 23rd 2014, 7:33 AM

    “Our allies, like Jordan”…any opportunity to get involved. Can’t just mind your own business, and take care of your own affairs in the country that you are presiding over. Sickening stuff.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 12:55 AM

    Mission accomplished. ….

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 9:40 PM

    Or working for the american big boys are just plain psychotic who knows

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    Jun 22nd 2014, 10:08 PM

    Working f….. what?? Sorry really don’t get what your saying. Count to ten think about your words and try again. S l o w l y

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