Mick, that was already implied. keep up

Woodhull was constutionally ineligible to be president. Not because she was a woman but because she would have been under 35 on inauguration day

That doesn’t change anything Dave. Hillary wasn’t first. She wasn’t even the first woman to be nominated this year, Jill Stein was

Lorem, she doesn’t refer to herself as the first. She refers to herself as the first nominated by a major party. Because of Woodhull’s ineligibility she received zero votes.

Anne, then your issue is with the wording of this article rather than what the papers it refers to actually said, look at the first front page shown in the article, read it

As has already been pointed out to you, the article we’re commenting on says she is the first woman to be nominated

And that is an error in this article but it is not even what the papers referred to in this article call her.

You could always try the ‘Send Tip/Correction’ link

Considering the fact that Bill Clinton is still much more popular among the American people than his wife is, that may not have been a bad move from a media that despises Donald Trump with a passion.

I’ll never understand people opposed to social justice. It’s real case of “I want everything to be the very same as before because that suits me and I couldn’t give a monkeys about fairness for anyone that’s not me”. I reckon these people were bullies in school but got a massive shock when they left and found out they were no longer important.

Most people aren’t opposed to social justice. A lot of people though are fed up of cry babies screaming inequality over nothing.

Jason by that logic there should only be pictures of kittens in newspapers as they are more popular than the subject of most stories

A lot of people are opposed to social justice and use words like “cry babies” to cover up that fact. Usually they are white men who live in Western countries that have never had any kind of struggle in their lives. Well, apart from their mothers not doing their washing for them on time. Pretty pathetic people.

John, people are opposed to social justice because it’s just gone into complete lunacy at this stage.

I could fully support the social justice campaigns 50 years ago when there were genuine injustices in our society. Social justice then was about campaigning for the rights to vote, or the abolition of segregation for example. Real injustices in our society that needed to be tackled.

Social justice today is just a joke. Now it’s all about rewriting movies with a new ‘inclusive’ cast and labeling those who consider it a bad movie sexist. It’s about whining on the internet that nobody can remember the name for the gender that you came up with for yourself because you wanted to feel special. It’s about setting up ‘safe zones’ in universities so snowflakes never have to face the reality that people have different opinions.

Jason, social justice today is expanding the same rights to all that are already enjoyed by most ie Marriage equality, equal pay for equal work. Allowing women to be in charge of their own body, 8th Amendment referendum. I’m saddened to hear that you are opposed to these

Jason mate, I couldn’t give a rats about your thoughts. Time and again I read your comments and come to the conclusion you’re fairly across the board ill-informed. You’re a hypocrite at the best of times, and you keep defending cops shooting people. I’d argue your points but they are meaningless in reality, a mere echo of bygone opinion, where the comfortable white male is afraid of change and likes to wax poetical about it on internet forums where he can find more of his own kind. You’re a small man my firend, with warped ideals fit for a group of pediga nutters sharing a few bevvies down the local boozer, nothing more than that. Pathetic.

So John, rather than actually answer my points you instead go on a 7 line rant about how you think I’m an awful person. I forgot to mention that SJW’s have a proven track record of an inability to play the ball, instead playing the man like this long winded rant about me being a ‘horrible’ person.

Dave, what’s this about equal pay for equal work? I could have sworn that the pay gap was debunked years ago. If you’ve read any of my comments you’d know that I voted in favour of marriage equality and support repeal of the 8th. How do any of these relate to complaints from SJW’s about not enough photos of Hilary Clinton?

My point is you have no points. You’re a loud din howling into an empty vessel Jason. And you are an awful person, down with the lowest of the low on The Journal. The problem with you is you think you’re an intellectual but really you’re ain’t, you’re just another goon with entrenched views.

I don’t have any points?

- Social justice of the past had genuine injustices and barriers to break down.
- Social justice today has very little to address in modern society, resulting in petty campaigns with little substance.
- Social Justice Warriors like yourself are unable to debate, instead resorting to petty insults when their viewpoints are challenged.

That’s three points for you right there, one of which your last two comments have proven to be true. Not off to a good start there John.

You need to have some (consensual) sex Jason.

Sorry, I meant valid points. You have no valid points. Anyone can make a point, but not everyone a valid point. And Jason petal, I’m not looking for your approval. But for the laugh, your points:

1. True

2. Gay marriage, travelers rights, womens rights, trans rights, wealth inequality, school inequality by virtue of church run education, homelessness, suicide, and on and on. Mental you think all social inequality was solved years back. Astoundingly baffling. Like sheer madness.

3. Libtard.

You say I don’t raise valid points. You agreed with one and posted an empty response with the second, so lets analyse your third answer shall we?

Gay marriage was legalised in Ireland last year so that ship has sailed. Travelers have the same rights as every other member of Irish society, however they fail to live up to the responsibilities that go with them. Transgender people have the same rights as every other member of society. Women have the same rights as every other member of society.

Wealth inequality will always exist in a capitalist society. I’ve never seen genuine confirmation of school inequality outside of areas with high competition for school places.

Homelessness is as much a product of an individuals own choices as it is a social issue, there’s only so much you can do institutionally to care for people who made bad decisions. Suicide is a mental health issue, not a social justice issue.

You claim that Social Justice has a lot of relevance in our society yet I just don’t see where. The vast majority of your list either doesn’t exist, isn’t related to social justice at all or are never going to be resolved as long as we operate in a free capitalist society.

You don’t see where because you’re a snake that makes excuses. Coming from a white male living in a Western country where you don’t suffer as a migrant in Holland due to your position in society. You can argue against social justice issues all you want, but that doesn’t make you right. Gay marriage legalised yet there is still prejudice against gay people in so many areas. Travelers suffer far greater discrimination than the rest of the population, blanketing them all as shirking responsibility is the same as blanketing all Irish people as drunks, it’s simply not true. Women don’t receive the same pay, are victims of rape, of male gaze, of lesser stature in most fields, are denied rights to their own bodies under the 8th ammendment. Wealth inequality is at unprecedented levels, but sure that’ll always be the case so no point in fighting for the poor. Just because you have never seen school inequality must mean it’s non-existent. Do you have a telescope in Holland to see Irish schools? Tell the people living in hotels that homelessness is a choice, you cold, callous individual. I’m sure their choices led them to be in that position. Mental health is a social issue because society in Ireland does not do enough to aid mental health issues. It’s a problem for society, giving justice to those that are marginalised.

You’re a dirtbag Jason Culligan, of the highest order, the type that blames the rape victim for wearing short skirts. Disgusting.

Jason, to say that the injustices he mentioned are empty is just your perspective. Ask any of those marginalised and they’ll tell you different

Oh go away John. Feminist men are sad and pathetic.

John perhaps you should retreat into your safe space. It appears you’re incapable of hearing alternative opinions to your own, without replying with a torrent of personal abuse. Well and truly triggered.

Where is the institutional prejudice against members of the LGBT community in Ireland John? It’s fully legal to be in a homosexual relationship and to progress said relationship to the level of marriage while it is illegal to discriminate against members of the LGBT community. Compare that to Russia where ‘spreading gay propaganda’ can get you arrested or Saudi Arabia where you can be killed for being gay.

Travelers do shirk their social responsibilities John, that’s an undeniable fact. Few Travelers complete secondary school education, their community is responsible for a disproportionate level of crime and their level of employment is far below other groups in Ireland.

The pay gap is a myth, when comparing men and women in equal positions there is a negligable disparity in wage difference.Your insinuation that only women are victims of rape is probably the most idiotic thing I’ve ever seen written on this site.

Wealth inequality is actually not bad in Ireland. This report from TASC shows that wealth inequality is quite good in Ireland compared to even more ‘socialist’ European neighbours:
http://www.tasc.ie/download/pdf/the_distribution_of_wealth_in_ireland_final.pdf?issuusl=ignore

I find it funny that you call me a dirtbag. You made the claim in your argument that I blame rape victims (show me one quote of that, you won’t find one) yet you’re the one who insinuates in your comment that rape is a female-exclusive issue thereby demeaning all incidents of rape suffered by men.

The word ‘hypocrite’ comes to mind but I suppose that’s mandatory for a SJW.

Ah, the cavalry has arrived. First wave of attack, “feminist men” and “triggered”. Next up in the dictionary of the mundane and cliched, “libtard” and “apologist”. You people have zero imagination, you sound like cow mooing to each other in a field.

I’m capable of hearing capable opinions from capable people. You aren’t capable people, you can’t even manage an original insult. You two are like a tin can blowing in the wind, it sounds annoying but you can easily stamp on it.

Poor trolling effort.

So now it’s “institutional prejudice”. Wow. Just wow. Comparing us to Russia and Saudi Arabia. Man, you’re argument is like Mawadi with too much water.

“Travelers do shirk their social responsibilities John, that’s an undeniable fact. Few Travelers complete secondary school education, their community is responsible for a disproportionate level of crime and their level of employment is far below other groups in Ireland”

That is a very deniable fact.

Pay gap in Ireland is 14%. Fact.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/gender-equality/files/gender_pay_gap/gpg_country_factsheet_ie_2015_en.pdf

in 2014 3/4′s of rapes were against women.

We have good wealth inequality in Ireland. Wow again.

I never said you condone rape, I said you were the type that probably would. Never said you did.

Are you sure your account is not satirical? I’m getting a right laugh out of it. I mean, you’re comments are all filled with hilarity.

DING! DING! DING! TROLLING! You win todays prize. Don’t worry those who didn’t win, you’ll all get participation scrolls!

“Oppression Olympics in full swing again. Look at Marissa Meyer, she completely messed up Yahoo through her ineffectual leadership and not one day after the sale to Verizon was announced she immediately jumped on the ‘I couldn’t do my job because sexism’ bandwagon.”

Did they show a photo of her husband instead of her on those articles?

“Considering the fact that Bill Clinton is still much more popular among the American people than his wife is, that may not have been a bad move from a media that despises Donald Trump with a passion.”

Kim Kardashian is much more popular among the American people than Hillary of Bill, should they have led with a photo of her instead?

“- Social justice of the past had genuine injustices and barriers to break down.”

Like, for instance, Jason, a woman winning the Presidential nomination and new papers inexplicably showing photos of her husband instead?

Or a woman winning the Presidential nomination and commentators defending showing a photo of her husband instead on the grounds that he’s more popular?

Comparing us to Russia and Saudi Arabia is very relevant, I see the underlying meaning of the point went over your head as per usual. My earlier point was that people campaigning for social justice 50-100 years ago had a point as there were genuine injustices here. There are genuine injustices today in countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia but modern SJW’s like yourself are too preoccupied with getting people to like Ghostbusters.

You claim that Travelers shirking their social responsibilities is a deniable fact, yet you provide no evidence to the contrary. I’ll take it then that you’ve got no evidence to back up that claim as usual.

Pay gap is not 14% when comparing equivalent jobs John, we’ve been over this already. The very first line in your source explains exactly why the figures are useless:

“The gender pay gap is the difference in average gross hourly wage between men and women
across the economy”

When comparing equivalent jobs, the pay gap disappears.

It is irrelevant whether 95% of rapes were against women in 2014 or 5% were, by making that ridiculous statement you’ve belittled the 25% of rapes that occurred against men by insinuating that rape is exclusively a women issue.

I didn’t say we have ‘good wealth inequality’, I said wealth inequality in Ireland is nowhere near the levels of even more socialist neighbours of ours. It shows that Ireland has very little in the way of a wealth gap issue.

Will my prize be personally presented by the oppressed white male feminist that is John Smith? I better check my white male privilege before I leave to collect it. Can’t be upsetting you John.

“Will my prize be personally presented by the oppressed white male feminist that is John Smith? I better check my white male privilege before I leave to collect it. Can’t be upsetting you John.”

Yes. But you’ll have to get an adult to accept it on your behalf.

” My earlier point was that people campaigning for social justice 50-100 years ago had a point as there were genuine injustices here.”

Like stories about the first female nominee leading with a picture of her Husband?

It is, of course, not the same as women being mistreated with impunity by their husbands in Russian or Saudi Arabia, but it’s a very clear signal that that social justice has not yet truly been established.

I don’t live in Russia or Saudi Arabia, I live in Europe. Throwing red herrings is the weakest of arguments.

Why would I provide proof about travelers when you don’t? Conjecture and anecdote is not evidence buddy boy.

We haven’t been over the pay gap, it is 14%. Just because you say something doesn’t make it fact.

“Management and supervisory positions are overwhelmingly held by men. Within each sector men are more often promoted than women, and paid better as a consequence. This trendculminates at the very top, where amongst CEOs less than 4% are women.”

“Segregation in education and in the labour market; this means that in some sectors and occupations, women tend to be overrepresented, while in others men are over represented. In some countries, occupations predominantly carried out by women, such as teaching or sales, offer lower wages than occupations predominantly carried out by men, even when the same level of experience and education is needed”

And on and on. So there is no pay gap? You’re full of simplistic dichotomy, but they don’t exist.

Rape against women is more predominant. A woman has a larger risk of sexual attack in public. These are truths. If it affects 75% more of a gender then it is true that they are more at risk.

You said wealth inequality isn’t as bad in Ireland, kind of like only getting one punch in the face isn’t too bad, compared with that other person that got 3. It’s still a punch in the face.

Screaming Toddy, you really lack any semblance of insulting. Try a bit harder, you might come up with something remotely decent. An easy way to test your insults is to see if you have cliche in it. If you do re-write it without them.

John, that wage gap is based on average hourly gross earnings across both genders.

This gap is down to women choosing jobs with lower pay, not systemic sexism.

Equal pay for equal work is already enshrined in law. If you aren’t getting equal pay for the same working hours in the same job at the same position, your employer has broken the law.

You people really need to be spoon fed information. Laurence Olivier and the words “is it safe” seem wildly apt.

“The gender overall earnings gap is the difference between the average annual earnings between women
and men. It takes into account three types of disadvantages women face:
lower hourly earnings;
working fewer hours in paid jobs; and
lower employment rates (for example when interrupting a career to take care of children or relatives).
The gender overall earnings gap in Ireland stands at 34.7% (the average gender overall earnings gap
in the EU is 41.1%)

Russia is in Europe John. Might want to brush up on your geography there. The point is that SJW’s have hundreds of serious issues in countries across the globe that they can focus on to dismantle genuine injustices across the globe. Instead, the focus is on not enough photos of Hilary Clinton in the news. Now do you see why I think SJW’s are a joke?

About the wage gap:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/#496cba014766

Reputable sites such as Forbes, Business Insider and Huffington Post have covered this separately over the years. The methodology used to calculate the ‘wage gap’ is false and it disappears when comparing equivalent positions. There is no wage gap.

Your pathetic attempts at worming out of belittling the rape of men is quite frankly sad. For someone who claims to be about social justice, you seem to be quick to dismiss injustice or belittle it if men are the victims.

I said wealth inequality is a byproduct of our free, capitalist society. Someone is always going to have more wealth than someone else. When comparing Ireland to other nations, our wealth gap is a non-issue.

“Rape against women is more predominant. A woman has a larger risk of sexual attack in public. These are truths. If it affects 75% more of a gender then it is true that they are more at risk.”

But John, raping women is illegal so it’s grand, we need not worry about it according to gun totin’ woman hating racist social injustice keyboard warrior Jason line of though anyway…

Phil, you do realise that by spitting non-points and insults you’re merely proving my point that SJW’s are incapable of debate or tolerating dissent right?

Phil, you do realise that by spitting non-points and insults you’re merely proving my point that SJW’s are incapable of debate or tolerating dissent right?

Shush, Jason. If one thing has been learned by anyone unfortunate enough to bother engaging with you is that you don’t actually discuss the subject f the topic – like you little rant about Russia and Saudi Arabia, for instance.

You don’t deal with facts which are presented to you at all. So there’s little point providing any.

You react to any valid criticism with snide shít like the above (and your unduly smug responses to John).

In sort engaging with you (and your fellow travellers) is utterly pointless in any meaningful way except to highlight your hysterical hypocrisy and complete unwillingness to accept that you’re making a total fool of yourself.

The point made, that it was unacceptable to lead a story about the Democratic nominee is a reasonable one. The excuses you and your regressive hate-mongers are making for this are hilarious. Most notable of these is there is no social injustice against women in the west any more and you’re doing it on an article where the female nominee was bumped form the headline photo on newspapers with a photo of her husband.

If I though for one moment you didn’t genuinely believe you’re right on that one it would actually be hilarious. Sadly I think you’re actually genuine, which is frightening.

Jesus Jason, do I need to spell everything out to you? Europe. EU. Where we live. We don’t live in Russia. I don’t care if you think social justice is a joke, I already view you as the punchline of this debate so what your feelings are completely irrelevant to me.

Thanks for the link to wage gaps in the US. Refer to my above sentence where I stated we live in Europe. My link was commissioned by the EU, (where we live) by experts and is available freely to read. I’m betting though that you don’t trust the EU even though they allow you to live and work in Holland. Don’t worry, there was a fella on during the week telling me books are useless for information and to trust sites like Brietbart so you’re not alone. When you close your eyes the bogeyman doesn’t disappear my friend…..

I abhor any type of rape. It is a fact that women are more at rick. Like it is a fact that men are at more of a risk of testicular cancer.

Our wealth gap is a non-issue? Right so, that’s that solved. Ever thought of becoming a politician?

Phil, Jason doesn’t care about other peoples problems. But he sure do be lovin’ dem gunz.

Well put Phil, Jason is a small small man. His arguments are incredibly thin. He’s a ripe candidate for insults based solely on the points he puts forward.

Jason Culligan:

‘Social justice today has very little to address in modern society’

Jesus wept.

Whinging manbaby, Jason Culligan, upset that wimmin, gays, brown people and other minorities don’t just shut up, shit down and accept that, as he’s become accustomed to believing owing to male white privilege, he’s better than them.

I cringe when I read most of Culligan’s remarks. He is awfully young to be behaving like an old crank.

While we’ve followed Jason down the rabbit hole I’d like to point out the John said women are the victim of rape. Nowhere did he mention exclusively or that men agents the victims of rape also.

I said 75% of rape victims are women, to be clear.

@Joanna………It was a kind of collective subconscious slip of the lens that showed who would really be in the saddle if Hillary,God forbid,were to be elected-Bill it would be for sure.
Which brings me to point out a flaw in the system that’s supposed to bar a president for running the show a third time. The flaw being a two term ex-president’s wife being elected pres. becomes in all likely-hood the ex-president’s proxy. and ibso facto the ex-pres.becomes a third time president..
They should throw Hillary out before it gets to this stage.

Jaysus, Patrick J O’CONNOR. Jason Culligan, your dad is home.

“Yes. But you’ll have to get an adult to accept it on your behalf.” – Ah darn it Phil Blanc. I’ll have to wait for my mother to come home from work. I can’t cope now. I need my safe space.

@The Oracle of Delphi……….. He has the same avatar as ‘John Smith’ that went to Ireland from Nova Scotia to avail of the free Irish uni. ed., that he wouldn’t get in Canada, a few yrs back and then started posting guttersnipe-type Islamo -fascist apologist propaganda before he went off the radar for a while ’til now. The same avatar, however, doesn’t mean the same dude!

Some man Patrick, it’s like you’ll believe anything you read, you’re easily fooled.. Keep it real buddy, somethings aren’t as they seem…..

Patrick – do you still have conversations with your other accounts on here late at night ?

I’ve always found that to be extremely amusing …

@John Smith buddy off Smith,-you’re an agitator and phoney to boot.

Patricks source of the day today is the National Enquirer. The same media outlet that claimed Supreme Court Judge Antonin Scalia was murdered by a hooker paid by the CIA

John it’s you that is coming across as a right arsehole..

John it’s you that is coming across as a right ahole..

Oh my gosh John Barry, will I stop? It’s important enough for you to say it twice, albeit in a slightly different way… The truth John Barry is that when you play with the gutter kids you have to get as dirty as them. This place is jam packed with fools.

Patrick, now you’re learning, I am a phoney. Everything about me is fake, apart from the words I write, which are the truest of truths.

No but if bill was never president would she be running today? No! Plain and simple.

Satisfying lust seems to be a family trait Tommy.

She only stood by him because he is well connected

Peter, would Bill ever have been president if she wasn’t with him?

The controversy is that the picture wasn’t of her, keep up

Keep up? You’ve had two hours to understand my comment and it’s still too much for you

“Melania Trump got on the front pages, Ivanka Trump got on the front pages, Ted Cruz got on the front pages, Hillary’s been on more front pages than anyone can count – what’s the big deal?”

Where did images of Melania Trump, Ivanka Trump or Ted Cruz get used in articles about the confirmation of Hillary Clinton’s nomination, Lorem?

Supposedly Bill was a good lawyer. Right up to the point where the Arkansas Bar struck him off for lying under oath.