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AT LEAST 42 people were injured Friday night after a railing collapsed at a Snoop Dogg concert in New Jersey last night, police said.
The rap superstar was performing with fellow hip-hop artist Wiz Khalifa in the northeastern state when the metal railing caved under the weight of attendees leaning against it.
Footage uploaded to social media shows concert-goers tumbling atop each other toward the foot of the stage.
Local police spokesperson Dan Keashen said most of the injuries were broken bones and bruises. One person was taken to a trauma centre with a serious upper body injury and released this morning.
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The concert ended shortly after the incident.
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How about free parking for the parents of a sick child
Why?
Because you can’t take public transport to hospital with a sick child and since you also have to stay with them in hospital car parking charges can be astronomical. In Crumlin it costs 10.50 for between 5-24 hours. So if your child is in hospital for a week that is 73.50, that is on top of having to pay for meals, take time off work etc.
Crazy putting the children’s hospital there if they are going to have parking problems before they even start! Hard enough getting sick kids into hospital and appointments without worrying about parking aswell.
Fiona – your under the assumption that everyone has a car, which is not true. Also, we are not talking about Crumlin, which is a completely different hospital. You are making this argument about what parents pay for parking, perhaps you should stay on topic.
Neal most people that have children and can afford to have them, they have enough money to provide a roof over their head, they can afford food and clothing. However unexpected expenditure like a very sick child where you have to leave work and then pay ridiculous costs at hospitals, this is not something parents ever want to think of, let alone budget for. Your comments regarding reproducing are uneducated and foolish to say the least.
@Neill what’s your proposal for parents that thought they could afford a kid but realised after birth that the child would need to be in Crumlin/Temple Street?
Another uneducated comment from Neal, thank god he’s not reproducing!
Fiona Great Ormond Street Hospital in London is right in the city centre, do they get free parking?
When are Irish people going to learn, the only consideration with a hospital is not whether a car can be parked at the front door.
Like people dont realise that
1. We need staff to work there who need to be able to get there from a lot of places, and the Luas stops at the front door.
2. We need a peadatric teaching hospital close to the universities.
3. It needs to be accessible by more than car.
Irish people are such gombeens, the only consideration is NOT for car users.
How right you are I worked out at blanchardstown hospital and the have that much land there it is being used for farming
Blanch hospital should have been granted the Childrens hospital, perfect location, accessible from all parts of the country via the M50, no city centre traffic and ample space for parking.
Definite brown envelopes handed around to get it into James’
Boeing Lover, eh public transport to Blanchardstown? Not everybody has a car….Irish gombeeism at its finest.
Stop trolling @john-s!!
Blanch would have been a great choice for the new hospital, high catchment area, easy access to the M50, more land for car parking, and a bus service could easily run from Castleknock station to Connolly hospital..
Unless you think bringing a sick child onto a Luas full of junkies is a great option?
There are lots of bus routes that go right past Blanchardstown hospital, all the 39′s, the 38, the 70, the 220, the 76a, the 37 goes through Castleknock and there’s a train station close by too. There’s also a travel lodge withing walking distance for parents who are unfortunate enough to have to stay overnight.
I’m not trolling anybody, we have to consider more than car users in this gombeen state we have created where the only consideraion is a car user.
So how does somebody without a car get their child to hospital? Why dont you answer that?
And the staff that have to work there, are they only going to be give the option to drive?
And the students doing their training, how are they going to get from UCD to the asre end of Blanch?
As I have said already, Great Ormond Street Hopsital isnt sitting on London’s M25 for these very reasons.
John, one of the 39 routes (I think it’s the 39a) goes from Blanchardstown to UCD and there’s one every 10 or 20 minutes.
But that’s 1 bus. It should be close to at least 1 major transport hub and our universities. Do you expect somebody coming in from Swords, etc to then get the 39 bus back out just to keep car drivers happy, who I must add are using an already over congested road?
John, you’re a gombeen.
You asked about students travelling from UCD, that’s why I mentioned that particular route. There is also a bus from Blanchardstown to Swords but I don’t think you’ll be happy with any answer given. We have a dreadful public transport system in Dublin, that’s well known and that will affect commuters no matter where they’re travelling from.
Write to your TD. It could still be built at blanchardstown
@ John S. Don’t pay any attention to angry Al-Right. He accuses everyone with a different opinion to his of being a troll. Seems to be a little hobby of his. You make a fair point for people who don’t have the luxury of owning a car.
Blanch would have been a perfect location. What idiots agreed to James. It’s going to be a disaster. Paying for parking in hospitals is a disgrace. The trauma that people have to go through in these places is enough without having to worry about bloody parking and being clamped.
Blanch is a perfect location – for those with a car. For those who don’t have a car it’s terrible. Most people coming to hospitals could travel by public transport – if it were suitable (staff, visitors, trips to outpatient clinics etc). If they could travel by public transport – those who actually needed to travel by car could do so (as there would be space). Most emergencies come by ambulance – no parking required.
Most hospitals in the UK/France/Germany etc are based in the city centre. I don’t know of any large hospital in Europe that has free parking. Ireland is pretty unique in providing free parking for staff (if wouldn’t happen in the UK, France or Germany). However, most city centres have adequate public transport.
@TweedTw@t, still butthurt after your imbecilic comments on the sports section eh?
@ All-Shyte. No toxic back lash? Well done! Just need to rid yourself now of that nasty superiority complex and all it’s ugly side effects. It’s good progress. Good lad I’m proud of you : )
The reality of this for the nurses is they pay €500, but are NOT guaranteed a parking space! It’s like a lottery for spaces.
€500 a year for parking works out about €2 (€500/48 (weeks)/ 5 (days)=€2 a day for a city centre location which is by any comparable standard a very attractive rate. You literally could not get a better deal for parking anywhere else in Dublin city centre.
You. would . dail eireann. They pay for no parking. Why should politicians get parking free but not nurses and doctors performing a much needed public service job.
Sure what’s the point of that one comparison in fairness LittleOne? It serves no purpose, why not compare them to someone who works in an office, a bank, a shop, a restaurant, a nightclub or any of these other places where people work but don’t receive any parking and certainly not free parking. If I wanted a parking place in Dublin city I would probably pay at least €10 a day and I’m not even sure it that would be possible.
What’s the point in that comparison? Are you serious. They are all public servants. People that work in banks , shops , restaurant are not. So why would I compare someone who works for the state with someone that does not. Bit ridiculous. Politicians are public servants working for the state being paid by taxpayers , the same as doctors and nurses. That’s why the comparison.
Where does the money go. Was there not a case a short time ago re people getting top ups from parging charges in another big hospital in Dublin. ??. So now there is going to be problims with park in the new child hosp an it has not even started yet. Can they not do anything right at all . We will have Harris on tv now non stop talk about all of the issues non stop waffle.
Why should the whole public sector be treated better than the private sector then LittleOne if that is your point. Maybe the point should be the whole public sector has more of a sense of entitlement than the private sector when the whole system is funded by the private system, it’s a sort of madness when you think about it.
Went to bank today in sandyford there was a few spaces for customers and loads for the rest where for staff. I see no problem with that
Its not that they are treated better. Its just that they’ve better employment agreements.
Are you making things up now teddington? Where do I think the public sector should be treated better than the private sector. I don’t . I am talking about politicians and free city centre parking and doctors and nurses , all public servants. Nothing to do with private sector.
With all due respect teddington. This is about hospitals , which are public funded , operated by public servants paid by the taxpayers. It’s not a private place. So its not about how much someone pays to park outside a shop, restaurant. It’s about public servants who work for the state being asked to pay in a state funded hospital. It’s not that long ago that parking fees were being used to too top up wages at hospitals. It’s about staff being asked to pay extra because their is not enough spaces with the children’s hospital being built, which is ridiculous. If parking is now a problem , then this was obvious a poor choice for children’s hospital.
Shift workers don’t work Monday to Friday, they do nights and weekends, which will be free (great). More than half of my 13 shifts a month include nights or weekends….so paying 500e will make the daily rate much mor than 2 euro per day. It’s essentially a pay cut.
That’s one way of looking at it Aoife but what do all of the other shift workers do in the country who are not guaranteed free parking? I’m sure there is a compromise but €500 pa for free parking is a bargain. I’m sure some kind of card could be introduced whereby only those who get a space pay. Also most areas have free on-street parking after 7pm.
The new children’s hospital hasn’t got planning permission yet
As someone who has worked in a few European hospitals where there was no free parking, might I describe what is available in other countries.
Switzerland – a half price pass is provided for all staff – so all public transport is half price (not just to and from work)
Germany – the hospital contributes to the Annual transport pass – so it costs 80% of the annual fee (about 600 euro per year for unlimited travel in a large city)
In both hospitals – there was plentiful secure bicycle parking.
Providing free anything to anybody simply acts as an incentive. Free parking for public servants in Leinster House encourages them to clog up the city with their cars – when they have good public transport alternatives.
Perhaps a combination of carrot & stick could be used – workers pay for parking – but this money goes towards subsiding public transport passes for those who choose? (it’ll never happen, I know)
Makes sense David. The general tax saver bus and rail tickets result in approx 50% savings at present. The employer may be able to cover the other 50% without any tax liability arising, under the BIK small benefit exemption which I think is now €500. This may just be co-incidence or the hospital intends on paying for these spaces for some employees so has set the annual fee at €500.
Money making scam taking advantage of the vulnerable. That is all Hospital Car Park fees are. Disgusting overcharging.
Sure if it was 1-2 euro a day, wouldnt it be full of people who work in the area, making parking in the hospital impossible in the first place?
A number of issues are being missed here. As a staff nurse in St. James and from speaking with colleagues the problem does not ly within the notion of assumed free parking. We are very much aware that many other organisations pay for the privilege to park on site at their place of work. The issues are as follows: 1.) Many people cannot avail or the transport links to the hospital as they simply would not have staff at work in time to start their shift. This doesn’t begin to include the parents that require their car to travel to drop/collect their children before/after work. 2.) The fee does not gurantee a car parking space and so creates a lottery. What’s to say you may never get a space and you will pay for one regardless. 3.) Parking is free at the weekend and in the evening. How is this going to be policed. The majority of my shifts fall at night or at weekends which means I will have to pay 500e a yr for an in guranteed space for approx 6 shifts a month. 4.) There has been no discussion with hospital staff on this matter, to top it off the memorandum was sent out on Dec 21st just before Christmas. Staff morale is at an all time low due to understaffing and being over worked and as a Christmas present we are told we will have to pay for an un guranteed parking space. People need to be aware that as nurses we do not set out to demand free parking. We simply want to get to work safely and on time in order to carry out our job effectively. If the 500e guranteed us a space I feel the majority of people affected would be happy.
Great post Aoife and I think that there’s definitely something in your comments that if they were broadly the same sentiments felt across all of the nurses in James’s which should be taken on board because all of them are very reasonable points and should be taken on board before any final decision is made. The point about the late/weekend shifts is an interesting one because as you’ve said it would actually work out at very expensive for you (per use) as the cost is only diluted by a very small number of uses in the year.
Our medical professionals are vital to our communities. They are already underpaid and understaffed compared to other countries. What an absolute disgrace and slap in the face to place this additional burden on them.
Sadly most of the parking spaces are probably taken up by hospital administration staff and not Nurses and junior doctors….
@Al-Right, Exactly and I have no interest in admin staff complaining that they have to pay the equivalent of €1.36 per day to park in a capital city right beside where they work, especially when people with sick children will have to pay multiples of that per hour when visiting the same hospital. If I want to drive to work I have to park on the street and would pay that for less than an hour.
The fact is that St James’ is right beside a Luas stop which is connected to both Heuston Station for mainline trips and Connolly for Dart connections. It’s also served by the 13, 40 and 123 bus routes. Staff there should be encouraged to take public transport and not feel that they have to rely on the car. If they want to use the car then they should have to pay for the privilege like most other workers in Dublin city center that choose to do so.
Obviously the hospital management don’t give a hoot as all car park charges are a revenue stream €500xstaff = a lot of money. But in saying this I don’t understand why the children’s hospital is being built there they should chosen the green field site
Nurses are Guardian Angels and do and see things that would haunt the dreams of any office worker. Why should these underpaid and under appreciated workers have to get on the bloody Luas Red line after a 15 hour shift keeping the likes of you alive. Give them free parking for God sake.
well said Peter!!!
Its a tough job, in an understaffed and underfunded system. Our politicians are mollycoddled, over privilidged and have all expenses paid (many of them unvouched) yet these frontline staff are being harangued, it seems, at every given opportunity.
This should not be allowed to become a them-vs-us, public-vs-private sector issue!
It should be a question of how we, as a society wish our health service to function, and how we wish to enable the staff in that service to do their jobs properly.
If i was of a cynical mind, i might think that this issue has been thrown out there today, to muddy the waters on what the proposed strikes are really about
People working in shopping centres etc pay for parking. What’s so awful about nurses doing the same? Surely there are good public transport links to the hospital
Not many live near city centre ,public transport not available for them.
The same could be said about the dail and politicians. Do all public servants pay for parking at their jobs ? No. So why should nurses.
No there aren’t good transport links. Also though ideally people working in shopping centres should have free parking they all work on a shop which is maybe only a tiny unit in a big centre. The hospital is one large unit all work in it work for it
Most public servants don’t have free parking at least in city centre
This is not just about Dublin. They are hospitals and public servants working all over Ireland. Your key word their Omar MOST but some do?
“No there aren’t good transport links” there’s a bus stop outside and a bloody luas stop on the grounds. What do you want, a lift straight to a ward?
True, there should be no free parking in front of Leinster house for ordinary T.D’s and civil servants, let them park in Molesworth street public car park like anyone else…
Shopping centers are not hospitals. staff should resist this attempt to gouge more money from them without the staff the hospital would be useless everywhere you look employees are under attack whither it be an attempt to cut pay or fiddle with the working hours it’s time that the people who are paid to represent the working people to take the gloves off and do their job and fight this attempt to pull one over on the hospital workforce
Ain’t no public transport when ya have to work out of hours/on call!!!
No but safe access to my workplace at night when I have to do call so I don’t get mugged etc would be nice…..
Welcome to the real world. Most of us have to pay for on street parking or get public transport. The days of free guaranteed car parking spaces are gone. The whole reason why the government rolled back on a plan a few years ago to bring in a car parking levy was because they realised that the vast majority of employer provided car parking spaces in Dublin were taken up by their buddies in the public sector. They didn’t want to tax their own. Unless free car parking spaces is a condition of employment then SIPTU are flogging a dead horse. Would not surprise me if the tail wags the dog though, management run scared of the union and capitulate.
Well, if you choose to work where there is no free parking available, that’s your choice. These staff have no choice but to pay for parking now.
What an incredibly entitled view of the world you have. Many people are happy to have jobs, never mind the choice of a job that might include free parking! And staff do have a choice. Use the bus or Luas both of which stop on their doorstep.
Yes but a lot of the staff travel from other counties (due to cist of living-housing)or other parts of the city to get to work for 7/7.30…….public transport is NOT efficient enough for staff to actually use it, to get to work on time. No other options have been offered to staff. I would use public transport if it was early enough, regular enough!
There is huge amount of the population that rely on public transport to get to work on time every day. You are claiming these people don’t exist and none of the work in hospitals.
They could cycle as an option. The rest of the working population have figured it out but hospital staff can’t?
@Aoife – that happens in all walks of life. Either way – they’re being offered parking for the equivalent of €1.36 PER DAY in a capital city right beside where they work! And for that they don’t have to bother with dealing public transport. I (and many other workers in the private sector) would take that deal in a minute, I sure as hell wouldn’t be strengthening to strike over it!
You are delusional to think the bus or Luas stops at everyone’s doorstep. Maybe in Tallaght, but not everyone lives in Tallaght or in County Dublin.
Some of the paramedical grades are expected to use their car to do home visits. For exams on predischarge planning ot Physio and social worker may need to check the home environment to see if the patient can safely be managed at home. They should have priority on parking if they will use their car for work
Charging for parking at hospitals should be tackled as a major issue in the next General Election which is soon. Hospitals are charging parking fees to the most vulnerable of people. Who in their right mind would want to go to a hospital unless they had to and wait around for hours or days. It is one of the most unjust charges I have ever witnessed.
I agree Teresa! Very unjust and il certainly bringing it up if any politician knocks on my door.
I think this unfairly targets women which make up the vast majority of nursing and caring staff, women who may live 2 bus journey’s away or no where near Dart/Luas services and have to pick up/drop off children from creche and schools before and after work…
There’s that one person who will make this about sex…
I had to pay 88 euro a month to park in a field ten min walk from my job…..this is ridiculous loads of people have to pay for car parking spaces in work…doing stuff like this makes u lose sympathy when they ballot and strike for real reasons.
Your right , there are plenty of hospitals outside Dublin with free parking , and the hospital is already having difficulty recruiting staff, so what not introduce a new disincentive to taking a job there,
Not forgetting that shift workers will end up paying a higher hourly rate that those in nine to five jobs ,
That shows just how good the idea is to build the children s hospital in there to when there is not enough parking for the staff
I’m paying 780€ a year in my current hospital… Truthfully a space is guaranteed. But as a doctor in Ireland.
Fee per annum:
1. 650€ medical council (with yearly increase)
2. 250€ competence scheme
3. 800€ work permit + visas
4. 780€ parking (my own hospital)
5. 0 – 2000€+ (courses to improve skills and knowledge)
6. 300€+ college member fee/exam/reg
7. etc…
If it’s not love for the job that gets people to remain in it, I don’t know what is.
Especially with very little support from the government.
My only joy is the smile I put on patient’s face.
€2.08 a day is not bad to pay for parking. Hell there be loads of people wanting to pay that
Nurses should absolutely not pay it, hope they strike if it’s imposed on them.
Won’t be popular but How many staff in Dublin offices and shops can park their car for free ? €10 per week to have your own car space not bad if you ask me !! This is a big city space is expensive no other country would lay on car spaces for their nurses . Luas and busses will be outside this hospital.
On the subject of “they work unsociable hours”, where does this come from? Shifts in St James, if I remember correctly, generally start at 8am/8:30am/9am depending on role. What is unsociable about this?
Worked there for years myself and I either cycled or got the bus to work. Plenty of people have to get a bus and luas to work, I have colleagues who have to walk for 10/15 minutes between where their bus leaves them in town and where they get the Luas.
Also, staff under a certain wage receive a travel allowance, which they can use to pay for parking.
Labs are 24/7 365 medbh, you could argue that has the potential to be pretty unsociable
Leaving in Dublin , but many don’t and the bus / train wouldn’t have you in work for 7.30,
I did say ‘generally’ start at… :)
Surely there’s a lot more available parking in the evenings and weekends so you’d be guaranteed a parking spot for those hours?
This isn’t about gouging money, it is designed to discourage people from bringing their cars (people who don’t really need to). The traffic in and out of the hospital can be mental at the start and end of shift times – you can bet that a very large percentage of staff do not *need* to use their cars.
Very few people who work in town, or at least that close to town, don’t have the luxury to drive to work because there is no parking or because parking is too expensive there.
For the record, the cheapest I can get parking for now, is €15 a week. €15 x 48 weeks = €720 – not guaranteed a parking spot at that €3 a day rate so the alternative is €4 a day €20 x 48 = €960, and that is cheap parking! Some spots around here are €5 a day, so higher again for people using those spots on a daily basis!
How much are the consultants being charged? Are they included in this?
how many spaces are there? just reduce the number and operate on a first come basis.
We have only 70 spaces for 500 staff. it works well.
I don’t think most nurses have an issue paying for parking, I certainly don’t, I do however concur with the issues outlined by my colleague Aoife Merrigan, this issue highlights the fact the the site at St James’s Hospital is completely unsuitable for the children’s hospital.
They can use their travel allowance to pay for their parking!
Nurses don’t get travel allowances
Staff under a certain wage do and nurses starting out would qualify for this. Parking fees, mentioned in this article are for staff who work days. Evening time, so nurses working nights starting shifts at 8pm wouldn’t have parking fees.
Why do people believe nurses shouldn’t have parking fees? What do you believe should qualify people to not pay parking? Should the nurses be free but the porters have to pay? Doctors should be free but the care assistants have to pay?
The parking has been limited at the hospital for years, they had to seek alternatives off the hospital grounds – hence having St James Steel and Kilmainham. St James has great public transport links, numerous busses stop outside both gates, the luas runs through and they have a dublin bike station.
Med, it’s a standard rate , as a shift worker working nights and days on different weeks , you d still have to pay the 500€ yearly, but may not use it as much as others, that is your hourly rate for car park uses would be higher that others
Nurses get over 700 euro a year in flat rate expenses to cover this kind of thing
Really explain
Isn’t it a taxable benefit in kind anyway?
No. They were going to bring it in but then realised it is mostly public servants that get it as a benefit. The unions told them if they brought it in they would strike. So it was quietly dropped.
Karl Ipers the unions told them nothing of the sort. If public servants didn’t strike over three pay cuts they are not going to strike over parking by and large.
Most public and civil servants working in Dublin do not have car parking facilities. Some do. I am not an advocate of providing car parking spaces as a perk for some staff. I think car parking should be reserved for business needs and that includes making provision for low payed staff who, of necessity, may be obliged to live far away from their workplace.
Given the scarcity of car parking spaces in the city centre rationing of some sort is inevitable. You either do it by pricing or by bureaucratic allocation. The latter carries a significant overhead for the organisation. The notion that the hospital can do nothing is the same la la land reasoning that some many on the Journal indulge in. There is a problem with supply and demand. Pricing is one way to solve it. It is an imperfect mechanism.
In my experience few things set staff off more than parking rights. It irritates the hell out of me to see some staff who are on bus routes or near to their workplaces hog car parking spaces that should be utilised for business needs or staff with greater need (often lower paid). Do not expect reason to prevail. The hospital should do a full business analysis of the actual need for all staff parking and start from there.
The unions couldn’t strike about the pay cuts as they had already agreed not to strike over them. They could strike over parking and threatened to do so as it was not in the agreement.
The vast majority of free parking is given to civil servants it doesn’t matter it isn’t the majority of those in the service.
The services is depleting because staff recruitment is difficult , surly adding another disincentive to employment in st james is a bad idea
Sounds like another good excuse for Consultant Doctors to add an extra €50 per visit to their already overpriced charges, I’d say?
I agree with my St James’ colleagues on the issue. As a shift worker myself the priority is staff safety to get to work at 7-7.30am for the start of our shift. The catchment area of St James’ is a inner city location in which antisocial behaviour is an issue and the priority of minding shift workers who finish their shift at 8.00-8.30pm needs to be addressed if car parking is moving off site to facilitate the building of the children’s hospital. In honesty I would not like to park my vehicle off site not having any safety of security personnel at hand incase of any issues. Public transport does not secure my travel to work from north Dublin city at that time of the morning and after working a 13hr day already tired after a busy shift, it would be another trek to get home on public transport before I get up again the next morning to do the same job not having enough rest and frustrated at the thought of getting into work. It is important that this issue is considered carefully by all so that no more issues with staffing become problematic in already understaffed nursing levels within the organisation.
Sure there minted anyways what’s 500€ to a doc
Read between the lines here, they’re actually building the new national children’s hospital in the cramped and overcrowded carpark of a dated existing national hospital. Someone really needs to be fired here.
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