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Sutcliffe pictured in 1978 AP

Yorkshire Ripper, who murdered 13 women, may move from psychiatric hospital to prison

He was given 20 life sentences in 1981.

THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER may be moved from a psychiatric hospital to a mainstream prison after a tribunal ruled he was mentally fit.

The Guardian reports that Peter Sutcliffe, also known as Peter Coonan, no longer needs treatment for any mental disorder.

He was convicted of 13 murders and seven attempted murders in 1981 and given 20 life sentences.

The British Ministry of Justice must now decide whether or not to approve the tribunal’s decision.

In a statement, a spokesperson said: “Decisions over whether prisoners are to be sent back to prison from secure hospitals are based on clinical assessments made by independent medical staff.

“The high court ordered in 2010 that Peter Coonan should never be released. This was upheld by the court of appeal.

Peter Coonan will remain locked up and will never be released for his evil crimes. Our thoughts are with Coonan’s victims and their families.

Sutcliffe killed 13 women, many of them prostitutes, in West Yorkshire between 1975 and 1980.

The truck driver’s murderous campaign sparked widespread fear across Britain until he was arrested in January 1981.

He was captured by police after he was pulled over with a prostitute in his car while driving with false number plates.

During his trial, he pleaded not guilty to 13 counts of murder, but pleaded guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.

Sutcliffe beat the women to death and mutilated them.

In 2011, the UK’s Court of Appeal ruled that he should spend the rest of his life in jail, rejecting a legal challenge.

- contains reporting from © AFP 2016

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    Mute Blind Faith
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    Aug 12th 2016, 4:55 PM

    Why don’t they just put him down.

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    Mute Fintan Oflaois
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    Aug 12th 2016, 8:58 PM

    Fight evil, don’t join it.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Aug 13th 2016, 2:46 PM

    Cheaper to keep him in jail, executions cost 25 million each

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    Mute Derek Durkin
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    Aug 12th 2016, 4:59 PM

    Best mates with Jimmy Saville…..the lead detective on the case said that someone very high up was being protected in the investigation….wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

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    Mute Ben McArthur
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    Aug 12th 2016, 6:09 PM

    The totality of the evidence for that is that they both lived in the same area of Leeds. I honestly think people will believe any old nonsense about Savile now.

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    Mute John
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    Aug 12th 2016, 7:24 PM

    Incorrect Ben. There is a whole lot more to Savile’s connection to Sutcliffe.

    A whole lot more.

    Thomas Sheridan: Jimmy Savile the 666 Serial Killer 2014
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNIgneutlK4

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    Mute Steve Tracey
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    Aug 12th 2016, 10:47 PM

    Ben
    Sutcliffe never lived in Leeds he lived in Bradford

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:19 PM

    Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe ‘was never mentally ill’ claims detective who hunted him ~

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12027015/Yorkshire-Ripper-Peter-Sutcliffe-was-never-mentally-ill-claims-detective-who-hunted-him.html

    Not sure how it costs approx £ 300,000 pa to keep him in Broadmoor. 5 times the cost of a regular prison. And he was in a regular prison to start with. The “mental illness” industry is deceptive in so many ways and also a big money making industry.

    This story came out last year as well, about this transfer. In the meantime it is so damaging for those who go through emotional distress, the majority of whom have NOT harmed anyone. Not forgetting that those who do go through such distress usually have some trauma in their background.

    It is a step backward in the area of social stigma and discrimination. But then mainstream Psychiatry seem to thrive off this constant linking of “mental illness” to violence. It gives them a lot of the power and control they have to lock innocent people away and drug them for years, while in most cases not addressing the underlying trauma that they have been through.

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:28 PM

    “The Ripper was NEVER mad says his brother: As killer fights move to tough new jail, family says he made up claims of mental illness”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3342030/Ripper-never-mad-says-brother-killer-fights-tough-new-jail-family-says-claims-mental-illness.html

    ‘Mental disorder’ is neither necessary or sufficient cause of violence ~
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525086/

    We need to stop scapegoating “mental illness” for so much and get more to the root of what was really going on in individual cases. It is so damaging for the Recovery and healing journey of the rest of us to be stuck in the same bracket as the Peter Sutcliffes of this world. As for the term “paranoid Schizophrenia” being used as an excuse, the term has very little meaning to those of us who have learned as much as we can about this field. It’s a fairly meaningless label. But also a heavy cross to carry for many who have been saddled with it.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:50 PM

    Charle….you are so so correct!

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    Mute Jester VonDoom
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:53 PM

    id rather questions of mental capacity were left to consultant psychiatrists, rather than some bloke in the paper

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 6:15 PM

    He wasn’t just some bloke. He was West Yorkshire Police detective John Stainthorpe and said the man who murdered 13 women was “just a plain, evil killer”. His brother also spoke out.

    Consultant Psychiatrists, many of whom get kick backs form the billion dollar pharma industry and cause mental health issues. As in their drugs sometimes turn milder mental health issues into more serious ones.

    They also do a fair bit of killing themselves with their overuse of prescribed psychoactive substances, whether they admit to it or not !

    “Deadly Psychiatry and Organised Denial” ~
    https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Psychiatry-Organised-Denial-Gotzsche-ebook/dp/B014SO7GHS

    by co-found of the respected Cochrane Collaboration, Dr Peter Gotzsche.

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    Aug 12th 2016, 6:22 PM

    Dr Gøtzsche is Co-Founder of The Cochrane Collaboration, and Director of the Nordic Cochrane Center in Copenhagen, Denmark.

    While no one should stop a drug the are on due to the fact that that would cause withdrawal and needs expert advice + support, at 4 mins 30 he estimates that the major tranquilizer Olanzapine has killed up to 200,000 people, not forgetting that 20 people died in the trials for this drug, the link to diabetes + rapid weight gain and the brain damage that chronic exposure to this drug causes ~

    Interview with Peter Gøtzsche ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIIQVll7DYY

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    Mute Jester VonDoom
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    Aug 12th 2016, 9:38 PM

    Olanzapine is far better than most of the alternatives and if you remember the first gen stuff its miles better. there js an issue with not checking bloods but thats easily fixed

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:13 PM

    Which pharma marketing brochure did you read that off ? “Issue with not checking bloods”. For prolactin I assume etc But that doesn’t change the FACTS about this drug and the damage it causes. A naive public will fall for that.

    While using this drug short time may be ok, chronic exposure to it is dangerous and damaging. This is something I learned from HONEST doctors on the subject. Which can be hard to find. Ones that tell the truth about these drugs.

    “significant reduction in brain volume that affects both gray and white matter.”
    http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v30/n9/full/1300710a.html

    Always check the lawsuits on the drug your doctor prescribes, whatever type of drug it is. There are large lawsuits on this particular drug ~
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/business/26cnd-zyprexa.html?_r=0

    It’s on a public forum like this that I realise the lengths some people with conflicts of interest will go to protect an industry that is harming people so much.

    Thankfully there are some good sometimes holistic doctors in the world. You can fool some of the people some of the time with that marketing stuff, but not those injured by these mind altering psychotropic substances ~ Dr Kelly Brogan, Dr Joanna Moncrieff, Dr Peter Breggin and others.

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:30 PM

    A blood test can’t defend a person from the hiding of negative trials. Lawyer Jim Gottstein got to the bottom of some of the lies.

    “In fact according to the Times, Lilly knowingly distributed false information to doctors about the risks as late as 2001. On December 21, 2006, the Times reported that the information provided to doctors about the blood-sugar risks of Zyprexa did not match data circulated inside the company after a review of Lilly’s clinical trials.

    The Times quotes a Lilly report from November, 1999, that shows that after examining 70 clinical trials, Lilly found that 16% of patients taking Zyprexa for a year had gained over 66 pounds. But instead of making these findings public, the company used data from a smaller group of trials that showed roughly 30% of Zypexa patients gained 22 pounds.”

    https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/drugs-medical/zyprexa-buried-00516.html

    66 lbs in one year shows how dangerous this drug can be. But also how the public are been fooled. And where do people go to then when they get diabetes ? What company makes the “cure” for that ? The more you know in this world the more pathetic is all is.

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    Mute Charlie Parker
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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:31 PM

    PS Doctors have no excuse these days. The knowledge is out there. But sometimes they seem to turn a blind eye. Even when they are told face to face !

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    Mute Irving Chubbie
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    Aug 12th 2016, 4:58 PM

    He’s sane now.

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    Mute John
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:43 PM

    Now that’s what you call a ‘Justice’ system, not like the mealy mouthed heft that we call Justice here.

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    Mute Jester VonDoom
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:54 PM

    i think you meant to put the inverted commas on the second ‘justice’

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    Mute David Dickenson
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:24 PM

    Should lock up anybody that says that he is sane, with him.

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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:32 PM

    So that would include the detective who hunted him and his own brother. Who know he faked insanity to avoid prison.

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Aug 12th 2016, 5:50 PM

    Would a mentally stable person commit these crimes?

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    Aug 12th 2016, 6:06 PM

    Sur if that is the case are you saying all murderers should be in Broadmoor in the UK and not in regular prisons ?

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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:19 PM

    There is a darkside to human nature and some more than others. Jung calls it the shadow. It’s much easier for some to try to create a sub-class of people and blame them than it is to face that reality.

    As an example, I’ve never heard of T Blair been diagnosed with a mental health issue but in fairness to BBC a relative of someone who died in the illegal Iraq war, which has led to some of the mess the world is in at the moment, was able to say this about him ~

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/06/iraq-war-relative-tony-blair-is-worlds-worst-terrorist/

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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:48 PM

    What antipsychotic would you recommend Charlie for a major psychotic episode?

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    Mute james r
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    Aug 13th 2016, 1:32 PM

    Should be moved to the gas chamber .. That’s what wrong with law on killers punishment is not harsh enough

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    Mute Barry
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    Aug 12th 2016, 11:46 PM

    What is the point? He has spent ≥ half his life in confinement. What purpose does it serve? He needed help when he was caught, he was never “normal”

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