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Poll: Does Ireland have a future in the euro?

France and Germany want updated treaties to create a greater fiscal union. Should Ireland be a part of that?

THE LEADERS of France and Germany have declared their intent to seek a new European treaty – arguing that a single currency can only be effectively backed by a single fiscal union.

Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy say next week’s summit of EU leaders – taking place three days after our Budget – should set the ball rolling for an updated EU treaty that stops the group from breaking up entirely.

Enda Kenny had forcefully opposed treaty change, however, saying that it wouldn’t come quickly enough to solve the problems at hand – and that Europe should instead focus on using the tools it already has, including (potentially) the ECB’s power to print infinite cash.

So – if the leaders of Europe’s most powerful countries want to create a closer fiscal union, which would naturally involve the sacrifice of some degree of sovereignty on the part of each country – should Ireland be a part of that, and involve itself at the heart of a common economic government to make sure its influence is heard?

Or should Ireland insist that it cannot cede any more power – and simply decide that it should leave the euro, even if this means the chaotic reintroduction of the punt and a major inflation in our national debt?

Put simply: if the future involves treaty change, does Ireland have a future in the euro?


Poll Results:

No (1299)
Yes (973)
I don't know (342)

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    Mute Philip Morgan
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    Aug 29th 2018, 7:41 AM

    Wouldn’t agree with his politics but when he often stopped personal attacks against Obama during the election campaign stating that he was a decent man. That touch of common decency was severely lacking from the last campaign.

    I wonder what the hell Trump will do over the next few days to steal the headlines

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    Mute JimmyMc
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:26 AM

    @Philip Morgan: Bomb Iran in his honour? He’s been pushing it for long enough, it would be a fitting tribute to his lifes work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg&feature=youtu.be

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:25 AM

    @Philip Morgan: not sure if youve actually read about his tactics or just one watched a clip about him not allowing one of his supporters call Obama an Arab, but he actually launched one of the most racist presidential campaigns in preceding 2008.
    He is also a Zionist supporter and actively supported Israel’s settlement expansion.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:16 AM

    @Dermot Foley: By no means was he flawless, calling his wife a cvnt (she had teased him about balding), a teenage Chelsea Clinton ugly, his fellow senators a$$holes and referring to his captors in Vietnam as g°°ks (he later clarified that it referred only to the individuals that had tortured him, but still). Yes he was an a$$hole, but he did something that seems to be completely dead in American politics now, and that is working across the aisle. His concession speech in ’08 was spectacular. He was flawed, right-wing, personally principled, often well-meaning, sometimes prejudiced, diplomatic, thoughtful, and hot-headed. Claiming that he was evil-hearted is just as dishonest as immortalising him as a “true American hero”. I think he said it best himself, a flawed patriot.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:47 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Plagiarism is nothing to be proud of, but plagiarising someones eulogy, someone elses personal thoughts and feelings is the epitome of sadness. Hang your head in shame

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/john-mccain-death-legacy-trump-us-senator-vietnam-war-a8511441.html

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    Aug 29th 2018, 1:44 PM

    @JimmyMc: yeah, bits of it summed up my opinion pretty well so I copied it and made some minor tweaks. So what? If that’s your take away from it then I feel sad for you

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    Aug 29th 2018, 1:50 PM

    For those that are curious, this is the copied portion “he was flawed, right-wing, personally principled, often well-meaning, sometimes prejudiced, diplomatic, thoughtful, and hot-headed. Claiming that he was evil-hearted is just as dishonest as immortalising him as a “true American hero”.” Yes I took it from an article in the independent, because it was wonderfully phrased and summed McCain up quite well. Probably should have given credit though.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 1:50 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Journalists from national publications summing up your opinion, comical stuff that. Don’t feel sad for me, I’ve never had to resort to using someone elses feeling to express and pass them off as my own

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    Aug 29th 2018, 2:13 PM

    @JimmyMc: when talking about a person very often many people will feel the same. Hilarious I know!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:11 AM

    Hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of this man’s urges. He was captured and tortured in Vietnam and held for 2 years. Instead of seeing war, especially modern abstract wars were no one is even sure why they are fighting in the first place, as the antithesis of the evolved human being, he went the other way and became obsessed with pushing US intervention militarily, and the rest is history – endless war, the destruction of Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, and much of Syria, hundred of thousands dead and the present migrant crisis. Rest in peace John McCain , although I do not think you will find much peace.

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    Mute Jay Coleman
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:20 AM

    @raymond grehan: yes because he was the only voice advocating for war. It’s all very well us criticizing the US but then again we weren’t forced into 2 world wars costing the lives of over 600k soldiers for wars that were on the other side of the world.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:29 AM

    @Jay Coleman: You would think that the lives of over 6000k soldiers is an even better excuse not to start wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which have been a proven abject failure.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:37 AM

    @Jay Coleman: Please read my comment again. Firstly I do not mention the 2 world wars? Secondly I refer to modern abstract wars were no one really knows why they are there in the first place.
    p.s. The Nazis and the communists in Russia were both funded in part by Wall street and Rothchild banking circles .
    The research of Doctor Anthony Sutton.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OshpXlULhTk

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:01 AM

    @raymond grehan: ah stop once you mention that Rothschild nonsense you just come across as a tinfoil hat.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:20 AM

    @Jay Coleman: ok ignore the excellent research of Prof. Sutton if you choose. It is your choice.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:17 AM

    @raymond grehan: Putting an academic name on the Rothschild theories doesn’t make them any less loony, Raymond.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:09 AM

    Fair winds and following seas…

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:32 AM

    McCain was a warmonger. Whole swathes of the world have been laid waste by the American ruling class. We are supposed to commemorate one of the political leaders of that barbarism? Just because relentless official public opinion tries to befuddle our brains does not mean we can’t actually think for ourselves.
    Why the US ruling class mourns John McCain
    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/08/27/pers-a27.html

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