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Nice finally drops burkini ban after court ruling

Nice and several other towns had ignored the ruling and kept their bans in place in the midst of a raging debate over religious clothing in secular France.

A NICE COURT finally suspended the burkini ban after authorities in the French Riviera resort had defied a ruling by the country’s highest administrative court.

Judges in Nice said the 14 July terror attack on the French Riviera city gave insufficient grounds to justify such a ban.

The decision follows last week’s ruling by France’s highest administrative court to suspend the bans introduced by around 30 towns, mainly in the sun-drenched southeast.

Nice and several other towns had ignored the ruling and kept their bans in place in the midst of a raging debate over religious clothing in secular France.

Nice was one of the first French towns to ban the Islamic swimsuit this summer, with city authorities claiming there was a risk to public order from wearing the garment after a jihadist in a truck ploughed into crowds on the city’s waterfront, killing 86 people.

But the city’s administrative court ruled: “In the absence of such risks, the emotions and the concerns resulting from terrorist attacks, and especially from the attack on July 14, are insufficient grounds to legally justify the contested ban.”

The court also found that burkinis posed no risk to “hygiene, decency or safety when swimming”.

The emotive issue of the burkini was further inflamed last week when photographs taken on a beach in Nice showed police surrounding a woman in a headscarf and a long-sleeved top.

Nice authorities denied the woman had been forced to remove clothing. They told AFP she was showing police the swimsuit she was wearing under her top, over a pair of leggings, when the picture was taken.

At least 30 fines have been issued in Nice since the burkini ban was introduced.

France’s Human Rights League and an anti-Islamophobia group challenged the ban.

© AFP 2016 

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:11 PM

    I think the big winners here will be the French far right in the next election.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:21 PM

    and the burkini making people

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:22 PM

    The far-right will never get elected in France, they have no policies, one-trick ponies who bang on about immigration ad nauseum, the French public have tired of their populist ramblings as evidenced by this decision. There is no place or appetite in any modern Western society for fascists to be in power, we’ve had conservative Natzionalists in power before and we all know what happened then, and in the Balkans in the 90′s.

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    Mute Margie Murph
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:25 PM

    Tariq. The French public had nothing to do with this decision just like they had nothing to do with the islamification of their country. When the French public have their say they will vote in the front national. They’ve been pushed around long enough.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:28 PM

    How do you know what the French public want Margie?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:32 PM
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:39 PM

    What’s next? A ban on alcohol. I mean if we dress in a bikini in their country we get stoned or lashed

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:41 PM

    In fact a bigger shocker is if u get raped in their country you get locked up. CRAZY

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    Mute Juan Venegas
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:43 PM

    Tariq, answer yes or no, very simple, do you want shariah in Ireland if the decision was in your hands?

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    Mute Bill Madden
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:45 PM

    No give a flying fcuk what people wear on the beach, it’s what it represents that bother. It’s all about keeping one section of the human race subjugated! Simply because they were born with a vagina!!! We even see little girls covered now in the west of Ireland and the strange thing is it is tolerated in the name of some religion dreamed up in the middle east!

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:49 PM

    Skirts, pants and blouses should also be banned. Bras are inhibiting. Ban them. Ban pink. Ban blue and ban woolly hats.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:55 PM

    @Michael

    Equivocating and making excuses for islamic control of women again.

    Wearing ordinary items of clothing worn by choice and not at the instigation of your husband and his islamic cult is not an attempt to pressurise non-members of your cult to conform to your cults strict oppressive rules.
    Guess you’re an apologist for islam who makes excuses for rape of women and children in Europes swiming pools too:

    “list documents more than 160 instances of rape and sexual assault committed by migrants in train stations, swimming pools and other public places against victims as young as seven.”
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne-is-every-day-europes-rape-epidemic/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:57 PM

    Rape, which crosses all cultures, has no relevance to burkinis.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:05 PM

    Rape which crosses all culture, yet more prevalent in some more than others, and where there is now an increase in rape due to so-called refugees, has every relevance to the culture that tries to oppress Europeans, burkinis are part of that package

    but glad to see you expose how you defend importing cultures and cults that have strong rape culture within them, cheers for that, everytime you comment you add another person to the anti-immigration side.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:14 PM

    Catholicism and all it’s problems have been connected with Ireland for centuries. And at a time now where it is losing its relevance to Irish society at an increasing rate, there are still mindless dopes like you who would support the invasion of a cult like Islam which is infinitely worse. The fact that such a simple concept like this has to be explained to you just shows what a fůcking idiot you are.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:17 PM

    Islam is priming itself to take up the space vacated by Christianity. And Christians because of our humanitarianism are moving over and making that space.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:20 PM

    Tariq are you blind or what because for some reason you seemed to have missed the major shift towards right wing and far right parties all across Europe?, the far right candidate only missed out by a mere 31,000 votes in Austria from becoming president.

    I wonder why this is?, hint its not because of the Chinese immigrants, the Filipino’s the Hindu’s the Sikhs the Buddhists etc etc.

    Only one group has ruined multiculturalism for all.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:23 PM

    @Michael

    Did not mention rape being connected to religion, I said culture. But seeing as YOU mentioned religion, pedophilia in christianity is as sin, the pedos in RC church were not acting as christians, also it was 2-4% of priests as well as some of the hierarchy who then covered it up. The instance of pedophilia in RC church is no more than in society at large.

    However if we look at islam, pedophilia is not a sin, it is sanctioned. Mohammad raped an 8 yr old girl and had sex slaves. His followers consider him the ideal man. Hence we have his followers going on to commit massive numbers of rape all around Europe.

    Pakistani muslims gang-raped 1400 white British girls in Rotherham, 500 in Newcastle, 400 in Oxfordshire and it continues.

    Yet here we have again Michael has no problem attacking christianity but not one word of attack on islam pedophiles, another disgusting Open-Border Extremist who have no problem seeing European children suffer because they are white, this is his agenda of anti-white hate.

    I challenge anyone reading comments by the Open-Border Extremists to see this bias and to see what they are really about….a vicious and vile hatred of European people.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:18 PM

    He must have been having a ‘sexual emergency’ Beachmaster.

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 12:29 AM

    “What’s next? A ban on alcohol. I mean if we dress in a bikini in their country we get stoned or lashed”

    “In fact a bigger shocker is if u get raped in their country you get locked up. CRAZY”

    That doesn’t happen in France.

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 8:22 AM

    “Some religion dreamt up in the Middle East”? And where do you think Christianity originated from exactly?

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 1:34 PM

    So funny all the lads on here going on about refugee this and that. Not all Muslims are refugees in fact a huge majority were born right here in Europe. Banning the burkini did not solve anything, hate rarely does, time to actually think about the ways to solve the problems that we have not create more.

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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:17 AM

    Deborah, stop annoying the flock. They get very agitated and confused when somebody points them in the opposite direction.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:09 PM

    And so begins the creeping pressure for non-muslim women to cover up or face sexual harassment, another victory for Open-Border Extremist “feminists” everywhere!!

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:15 PM

    Says a man who wants women to be compulsory incubators.,

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:17 PM

    Nonsense, they’ll just be issued with anti-sexual harassment bracelets/temporary tattoos.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:17 PM

    @Michael

    How’s that now?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:21 PM

    Your fundamentalist prolife opinions.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:22 PM

    You’re a tiresome scrote Michael.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:29 PM

    Brain Damage, at least I’m not cognitively impaired.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:29 PM

    @Michael

    hold on now, and what exactly are my “pro-life” opinions according to you (if I have any)?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:32 PM

    @Michael

    I have said nothing about pro-life this or that, and I have said nothing about my opinion regarding the Roman Catholic church, but now people see that when a damaging comment is made about Open-Border Extremists, that they try to divert the topic

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:38 PM

    Steveocarroll, you are hilarious. You must have forgotten your prom8th amendment comments!

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:46 PM

    @Michael

    Show us them, if I made them. See if I can clarify anything for you. But nice little diversion off topic, wonder why, maybe you found my comment on this topic too dangerous for the casual reader?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:50 PM

    Read your own comments.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:01 PM

    @Michael

    You brought up an off topic comment, to divert from points I made about this topic, onus is on you to prove it, now either put up and prove your accusation of “Your fundamentalist prolife opinions.” or we can just assume you are talking shy**te and in any case are diverting right now.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:08 PM

    Easy question. If you deny that you are pro-life and deny that you are anti-abortion, I will retract.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:17 PM

    Woah! Did you just assume Stevenocarroll’s gender and race?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:19 PM

    Larissa, you’ve such a lovely way with words .. brings out the best in you. ..

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:03 PM

    @Larissa says

    “you’re a hypocritical far right extremist white supremacist misogynistic pig”

    ok, so people supporting women are misogynistic, while defending a cult of oppression is cool.

    Ok Larissa think we see that our freedoms are safe in your hands.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:09 PM

    @Michael

    I believe that is being like a tyrant Michael, so you get to come on here and change the topic from the article being discussed, then you make accusations you can’t back up and then expect the person you accuse to do as you say?

    No buddy, people don’t have to be dictated to like that, it is up to you to prove what you are saying, otherwise anyone can accuse anyone of anything.

    Prove your accusation, because as it stands you are being shown up to be a liar and spoofer, trying to divert from the topic being discussed because you cannot counter the points made.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:22 PM

    Larrissa would be unable to express herself in a Muslim country as freely as she can in the West…..I can’t understand her need to defend Islam, which would have her put to death.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:26 PM

    And your are an ignorant and unnecessarily rude scut. Are you really so stupid that you believe personally insulting other posters and calling them names like “scrote” advances your argument? It is the way of the bullying pub bore.

    Micheal OLainn’s comments are at least based on facts, knowledge and well considered. You are just a hatemonger and looking for a scapegoat as your own rotten cult fades away before your eyes. No amount of badmouthing a competing purveyor of religious BS will change the fact that the only way to guard against aggressive religions is to build a strongly secular state with laws that enforce public order effectively.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:57 PM

    @Fintan
    “Micheal OLainn’s comments are at least based on facts, knowledge and well considered.”

    Making accusations you cannot back up, is the opposite of that.

    “You are just a hatemonger and looking for a scapegoat as your own rotten cult fades away before your eyes. ”

    Care to back up where the hate-mongering is and what my cult is?
    Or is this more of the Open-Border Extremist “facts, knowledge and well considered argument”??

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:14 PM

    “#Nice To Compromise” this isn’t a compromise in the slightest. The French have bent to the will of fundamentalist Muslims and their cultures and values at the expense of Frances history of secularism.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:16 PM

    France has simply conformed to French law, overruling illegal local decrees.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:20 PM

    Spot on Patrick. Them Muslims just continue to shite all over Europe while we bend over the table for them.I want my Europe back.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:24 PM

    Hilarious!! You want your Europe back. Where are you living?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:28 PM

    @Michael

    Exactly, in a place you and Open-Border Extremists are trying desperately to change so that it is no longer a European homeland or recognisable as such. Here you have the Open-Border Extremist sneer at the European destruction they push.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:33 PM

    Europe is European and will remain European, laws, culture and ethos will remain European, with non Europeans being gradually assimilated into mainstream European enlightened culture. The Enlightenment will never be reversed.

    The only fundamentalists who will hang tough in Europe are the anti immigration and refugee sanctuary ideologues.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:40 PM

    Where’s Islam’s enlightenment Michael? You absolute simpleton.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:44 PM

    @Michael

    I see you refuse to answer my questions put to you

    When you get enough people of a different ethnicity and culture into any territory, then it changes. Europe will no longer be european or have its culture. Several UK cities are already minority ethnic British and are not British in ethnicity, culture or law.

    The extremists and fundamentalists are people who tell a native people what to do, we are minding our own business and you are trying to change the demographics of our country, trying to change the ethnic composition of our country and continent, and trying to change the circumtances of our lives. We are not forcing a change on foreigners in their countries or trying to get them to come here, you are doing that, therefore you are the bully, the tyrant trying to force a change on people minding their own business, not us. The mass-immigration supporters also defend crime and violence perpetrated upon native Eurpoean men, women and children and are therefore Open-Border Extremists with blood on their hands.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:45 PM

    I want my Planet Earth back. You know, the one I own and am supreme leader of. The one where everyone agrees with me. That used to exist right? That’s not a fantasy and I’m not behaving like a spoilt child, right?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:47 PM

    As always there’s the simplistic idea of integration. But looking through history integration never really happens, nationalist enclaves exist in certain quarters in cities even. Muslims are no different, or are they? Indeed they ate, it’s the only social group that we change our laws and values to accommodate thiers. Now 100 years of feminist enlightenment faces a new backward step.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:53 PM

    European culture and the tradition of the European secular enlightenment is strong and invincible. The open and non absolutist outlook eventually prevails.

    Dogmatic absolutism eventually is the subject of entropy because it is inflexible.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:06 PM

    @Micheal OLainn- But Muslims have not conformed to French custom which is to stand by the principles of seculaity in public life. A terrific informative read awaits those who take the trouble to read the full article by ‘Yves Mamou writing for Gatestone inst. fro the link below
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    –”The Islamic veil at school, or the burkini at the beach, seems an attempt to “re-religionize” France and break the French consensus for secularism. For a hundred years, the consensus has been accepted by everyone — Catholics, Jews, Protestants — except for Muslims.—-”
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    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8793/france-secession-muslims

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:09 PM

    Ahh the fundamentalist right ring gatestone institute

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:10 PM

    @Michael

    Tell that to these children Michael the defender of islamic rape attack of children. One has to wonder Michael why you lie so profusely about what is happening in reality?

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne-is-every-day-europes-rape-epidemic/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d
    list documents more than 160 instances of rape and sexual assault committed by migrants in train stations, swimming pools and other public places against victims as young as seven.

    White Britons are now a minority in 4 towns and cities
    THREE major towns and cities have seen their white British population fall to a minority, mirroring that of London. And other population centres are set to follow.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/370013/White-Britons-are-now-a-minority-in-4-towns-and-cities

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:23 PM

    Well said Patrick ,the media will try to spin i t their own way because they support ed the economic migrant crisis.the wool cannot be pulled over our eyes concerning this appeasement.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:27 PM

    Micheal isn’t lying , he his an Islamist and therefore tell his medieval truth

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:16 PM

    @Michael

    Yes the Gatestone Institute, and what is the problem with the author of that article

    “Yves Mamou, based in France, worked for two decades as a journalist for Le Monde.”

    Or are you using the Open-Border Extremist tactic of attacking the source because you cannot refute points made in the article?

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 5:07 PM

    the french have bent to the will of “Fundamentalist muslims” by not sending men with guns to force to women to strip. FFS.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:24 PM

    Yay control and hypocricy win again! Did you know a Muslim school in Stockholm started sex segregation this week? Another victory for political correctness over the yucky west

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:26 PM

    Roman Catholics were and often still are great believers in gender segregated schools.

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 5:04 PM

    yet more proof that rainbow avatars don’t mean shit in terms of being tolerant/progressive

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:03 PM

    Saudi Arabian man jailed for 10 years and given 2000 lashes for good measure , it seems he denied the existence of God and here we are letting hordes of Muslims into Europe ! , its way past time we called a halt to this invasion because if we don’t we can expect a Malmo in every country and a Molenbeek in every city

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 5:04 PM

    hordes of muslims aren’t being “let” into Europe, France colonised a bunch of muslim countries and as always that means a lot of people make their way back from the colonies to the coloniser to try and make a better life for themselves. how about we start by getting France to stop asking African nations for colonial taxes?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:06 PM

    They’ll have to make do with pointing and laughing now, probably for the best.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 11:18 PM

    Laughing till they end up in palliative care with advanced skin cancer you mean

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:33 PM

    Well done.
    A victory for French feminists and the Taliban.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:39 PM

    A defeat for the Roman Catholic Taliban,

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:34 PM

    Open-Border Extremists attack christianity but will always defend islam

    is it because for all their bluster about “racism” they see islam as being mostly a non-white religion and christianity in europe as being mostly white?

    Open-Border Extremists show real race-hate toward Europeans, their agenda is about destroying them (even though most are white themselves)

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Sep 2nd 2016, 1:37 PM

    God Joey you really hate women don’t you?

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 5:06 PM

    I don’t “attack” christianity but I do come from a country that was negatively affected by the Catholic Church, and as an Irish person, I am in a position to criticise that.

    I do think that the regimes in Saudi Arabia and Iran are awful and I don’t know where you’ve imagined that people who care about Muslims don’t bring this up. But being crappy to Muslims doesn’t solve any of these issues. Stuff like this is just fishing for reasons to be a crappy person. Your language is pretty obviously coming from an extremist white supremacist perspective anyway.

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    Sep 3rd 2016, 9:22 AM

    Hey Leighanna what’s wrong with Iran? Hate on Saudi Arabia if you like as the western rags don’t have to make up anything about them in order to create hate in the Christian countries. Try to see the shit from the shtew.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:46 PM

    France tries to take a stand against terrorism and is stopped because of politically correct nonsense.

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:54 PM

    France took an initial stand against the burkini but burkinis and terrorism are unrelated.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:15 PM

    burkinis are a policy of a cult which tells women they are not allowed to feel the freedom of water and waves on their skin.

    It is one policy of a wider cult which has as its doctrine the conquest of non-muslims by pressure and if not that, then by outright violence for islam, the burkini is part and parcel of many policies which try to pressure the non-muslim to kow down and submit to their ways. We already have Open-Border Extremists making noises that western women encite foreigners into Europe with the way they dress. Whatever happened to women being allowed to dress as usual in their own country and these foreigners behaving themselves??

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:17 PM

    Burkinis are a symbol of terrorism.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:27 PM

    @Amy. What about beards, pants that end above the ankle, clothes that cover you from the navel to the knee? These are examples of prescribed dress – in a broad sense – for Muslim men. Should France also ban those on beaches?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:41 PM

    @Anne

    Does a man obey dress code because he is controlled by muslim women and he fears being raped by them and being beaten by his wife for “attracting” attention?
    How does any of that dress oppress the man, do they have to cover up going in swimming?

    Here again we have another Open-Border Extremist who has just exposed how they will say anything to defend oppression of other human beings, namely women, as long as it is by non-white people. These people do not have the best interests of the safety of European families at heart.

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 5:07 PM

    Burkinis have nothing to do with terrorism. ANd in fact, your attitude, equating attitude with terrorism is what gives free rein to western terrorists like the US & French governments and their drone strikes.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:11 PM

    A victory for oppression and misogyny.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:15 PM

    A victory for law, common sense, liberalism and enlightenment.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:20 PM

    Michael can now be heard shouting at women to cover up, especially when they want to feel the freedom of the water on their skin, in reply Michael says he is bringing them “liberalism and enlightenment”

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    Mute Paul Cunningham
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:22 PM

    They may as well be wearing wetsuits, but that wouldn’t show off their religion enough now would it?

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:23 PM

    I prefer women to have the freedom to decide for themselves without ant approval, disapproval or judgment to me. Womens’ bodies, women’s choice.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:25 PM

    Without any judgement in my part.

    It’s not for me to tell or to suggest how women should or should not dress.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:33 PM

    Tell that to their husbands Micheal…..it’s those who need the instruction on allowing a woman to wear what shes wants.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:34 PM

    @Michael

    Just admit you hate white women and like the idea of islam telling them what to do, its why you automatically defend it, without fail.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:36 PM

    I suspect that most burkini wearers wear what they want to wear without regard to husbands or boyfriends. Some of the women directed to stop wearing the burkinis were actually single.

    I doubt that Nigella Lawson would take direction from any man.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:45 PM

    I’m marriee to a beautiful lovely white woman of Roman Catholic origin .

    I detest Islam, Roman Catholicism, Atheism or anti feminists telling any woman how to dress.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:03 PM

    Which of you wears the knickers in the marriage?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:10 PM

    Sleazy and voyeuristic question.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:21 PM

    Well you were known as Fiona de freyne on here previously so who knows. Probably depends on what medication you’re on.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:00 PM

    @Michael

    As you know a woman is islam may be single but she is very much always overseen by other males, so if she is in a group, she will not want to be ostracised by not adopting the domination code of islam.

    But hey you go and defend oppression of women and domination culture of islam and attack christianity Michael, theres a good open-borders humanitarian

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:14 PM

    Common sense at last. Now France should concentrate on security, people who are known to them and protecting people.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:17 PM

    Yes, the burkini was just a minor distraction. Real security is the priority.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:26 PM

    Deportations of people allowed into Europe from decades long mass-immigration, stopping current immigration and deportation of people who came in the 50′s and 60′s onwards who had no intention of changing to Western culture or norms. Along with higher scrutiny of the places they group themselves together to live intentionally. Security without deportation and stopping mass-immigration is like collecting water in a sieve.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:28 PM

    The burkini is to blame! Lol.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:36 PM

    @Michael

    Believe we were talking about the detrimental effects of mass-immigration, the burkini is a symptom of a wider malaise – the destruction of European ethnicity and culture being the ultimate goal

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:42 PM

    The burkini is just a burkini.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:46 PM

    @Michael

    Except when it is an item of clothing to control another human being, which is what a burkini is, so guess it is not “just a burkini”.

    There would be no problem if the odd woman wanted to wear clothing going into the water, because that is her thing or for whatever reason.

    This however is not part of some random person or people here and there doing that, this is part of one culture dominating its womenfolk and trying to pressure non-muslims doing same over the long term.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 11:41 PM

    So you would be dead against Irish parents forcing their children to wear school uniforms Michael? I mean it’s forcing children to comply with a dress code that they may not wish to conform to.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:27 PM

    What’s all the fuss about? If women have massive hang-ups about their bodies and want to dress up in Chewbacca suits when they go swimming, who cares? If they are dumb enough to follow, slavishly, the rules that a warlord and paedophile wrote down in a book that he says was dictated to him by some kind of spook in a cave, why should anyone give a rat’s ar5e? And if they are so full of themselves that they think no man can control himself if he sees a bit of skin, get a life sister.

    We men can just go to the beach,ignore those pathetic women and enjoy the topless beauties.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:11 PM

    The thing is Fintan many of these women are not doing this by choice it was either drilled into them from birth that they know no better or the man they married is a control freak so to show some flesh or hair in public could risk a good thrashing?.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:10 PM

    A victory for common sense. The French political establishment seemed to have worryingly wobbled in the face of the vicious onslaught from the sinister far-right Neo-Nazism which is spreading across Europe currently. Be vigilant people, it’ll be your rights they’re coming after next.

    ‘First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Muslim.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.’

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:12 PM

    yup not being allowed the freedom to feel the waves and water on your skin for fear of men not being able to control themselves and you being at fault for “tempting them with rape”……common sense all over it

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:16 PM

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand common sense in fairness steven, you don’t even understand basic punctuation.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:17 PM

    @tariq…….and then the Muslims came for everybody and everybody was too scared to say boo!

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:19 PM

    …and then everybody became a Muslim. The end.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:20 PM

    The only thing spreading around Europe at the moment is the mass invasion of our continent by illegal immigrants mainly of your own faith .

    Is that who you meant when you say neo nazis? I presume it is as its your lot who are doing the murdering and raping of European citizens who have nothing to do with what’s going on in the Middle East. Stop playing the victims all the time it’s pathetic

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:27 PM

    MR T, how do you know they are all illegal immigrants, how do you know even one of these refugees is an illegal immigrant? People aren’t categorised as illegal immigrants until the officials of the host country conduct interviews, checks and assessments. Have you done all three of these? Full of B.S.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:38 PM

    Wexford’s favourite dead paedophile worshipper on a grammar mission.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:41 PM

    Wexford was an area for extensive Roman Catholic clerical child sexual abuse.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:43 PM

    Yes, and didn’t the local bishop make frequent trips to the appropriately named city of Bangkok at the same time as his cult was condemning sex and his priests were raping altar boys?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:51 PM

    Yes all non-christians who sinned against what christianity teaches, all Irish who were not exported into another country to perpetrate those crimes on the natives of a foreign country.

    Unlike with refugees and muslims who are raping kids around Europe or mohammad who raped an 8 yr old and had sex slaves, hence the rape of native Europeans by muslims who see their rapist prophet as the perfect example of a man, and where islam sanctions the rape of the non-believer (kuffar)

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    Sep 1st 2016, 10:13 PM

    Germans are getting a real view of Islam and intend to curb it’s love affair with children….. https://www.rt.com/news/357941-child-marriage-muslim-germany/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:44 PM

    It was a ridiculous thing to say that you can force adults not to wear whatever cloths they want. It’s like the English saying you can’t wear an aran jumper cos of the Birmingham bombing. France I think is an odd place like that, I’d a French friend of North African origan who told me that even though France is about equality fraternity and all that, really it matters if your an ethnic French person on the jobs front and getting into nightclubs etc. They insist that everyone speaks French there and take on French values but at the same time racism stops innocent people from being able to integrate there. Anyway that was her take on it.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:15 PM

    Glad the woman In the black bikini isn’t into that quare religion mmmn

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:20 PM

    Made as much sense as banning the nuns habit during the troubles.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:36 PM

    Republican V’s Loyalists, Trevor.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:42 PM

    Protestant v Catholic Al.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:40 PM

    Yea I remember the SF slogan in the 90′s
    Sein Fein the Catholic party vote RC

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:57 PM

    @Trevor

    So women in their own country volunteering to go into a religious order of their own country and culture and specifically for women who volunteer to remain celibate are the same as a cult who are not celibate, not in a religious order within their cult but are told to cover up to dominate them and stop other men from raping them, as are the girls of that religion.

    No comparison Trevor. Maybe your multicult religious bias is getting in the way?

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:12 PM

    I think you’re missing the sarcasm in the remark Steven. And I’m not religious. I use my own brain, not have somebody tell me how to use it.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:25 PM

    @Trevor
    are you not in favour of the ban being lifted, that’s what your comment says, sarcasm or not. Isn’t that the point you were making?

    “Made as much sense as banning the nuns habit during the troubles.”

    and, multiculturalism is the new religion. If you are multicult then you are not thinking for yourself but subscribe to the same empty virtue signalling and snobbery of being seen as “humanitarian” and not a “racist” sinner.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:34 PM

    Let me explain it for ya Steven. My point being, banning the burkini would have done as much to resolving a conflict as getting nuns to remove their habits. I don’t care if people want to wear pans on their heads if they so wish, it’s none of my business. Whatever a woman, or anyone for that matter, wishes to wear is their own perogative.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 9:47 PM

    @trevor

    oh I already knew that’s where you were coming from, hence why you actually misunderstood my comment but tried to fob it off by saying you were sarcastic.

    the argument that it is just any woman wearing what they want and that it is the same as nuns wearing habits or any woman wearing anything, is exactly what my comment addresses, which went totally over your head. Hence why you try to save face trying to say you were being sarcastic, I knew exactly the kind of non-argument you were making.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 10:21 PM

    I think you’d want to be taking whatever you’re wearing on your own head off there steven

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 12:10 AM

    poor Trevor. Learn to think for yourself didums.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:10 PM

    Nice to see you to see you

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:13 PM

    kaboom!

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    Sep 1st 2016, 7:19 PM

    A bit explosive there steveocarroll.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:15 PM

    @Michael, nah, it’s just poor Steven suffering from flatulence because of all this build up hatred against people with the ‘wrong’ skin colour, ‘wrong’ religion, or ‘wrong’ sexuality

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:52 PM

    @Larissa

    Can you show where this hatred of people with different skin colour is?

    Are people allowed “not like” any particular religion they want, do we all have to like islam now?

    Wonder would you have made same comment if I, like you constantly attacked christianity?

    Anyone would think you want to see the destruction of Europeans!

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    Sep 1st 2016, 11:19 PM

    Whow lots of angry old white men here

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 12:09 AM

    Where Boganity, where, round them up.

    One question though comrade, not seeing the anger or the age or the colour of their skin.

    Are we going with the tactic that if anyone opposes us and asks questions we can’t answer, then we just call them names, is that it, ok dude, I’m with you…shhh

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    Sep 2nd 2016, 9:09 AM

    I wonder how far away we are from Christmas being banned to appease these minorities? Will eventually happen they’ll claim it’s offensive to their beliefs.

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    Sep 1st 2016, 8:14 PM

    Weak

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