Ah cut the sh!t Michael Olainn. A few! A hell of a lot more than a few. Doing violence in the name of the “Religon of peace” is not at all uncommon as it is mandated in their little book. The same little book that tells them how, why, where, when and what to do and how to do it. Killing blasphemers is mandated and that murderer will get off scot free. They’re great little countries those ME theocracies.

It certainly isn’t “a few”, many millions of Muslims support some kind of extremism. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428146/more-than-few-islamic-extremists

A few Michael? There’s hundreds of thousands currently trying to kill each other in many countrors as we speak and that’s before they get time to kill people from other religions.

If you are correct,let’s wait and see if the gunman is actually punished for carrying out this crime.It’s more likely he will be celebrated.

@Maggie Murph you are correct and whoever gave you a red thumb is a idiot Red thumbs are to easily come by on the Journal it would be a good idea a to have to identification

Witty and satirical cartoon available here for all those curious: https://twitter.com/geertwilderspvv/status/779982357394776064

Sorry Margaret posted before I finished I was about to say it would be a good idea for subscribers to the Journal to have to identify themselves before giving a red thumb

Identify yourself as an Islamist apologist and be done with it ” Michael “

few fjuː/ determiner, pronoun, & adjective 1. a small number of. “may I ask a few questions?” synonyms:not many, hardly any, scarcely any;More 2. used to emphasize how small a number of people or things is. “he had few friends” synonyms:not many, hardly any, scarcely any; You got my red thumb

@Alan Scott:

“it would be a good idea for subscribers to the Journal to have to identify themselves before giving a red thumb”

You’re an idiot.

Was that you who red thumbed Alan? That is absolutely outrageous. Accountability now.

Apologists such as yourself are part of the problem.

Michael O’Lainn

Say us, from the country with blasphemy laws that some Pakistanis wish they had.

Alan, you do realise that putting your public identity behind an opinion on an open platform, that is open to extremists, is why this guy is dead today. it is without a doubt that there are readers on here who would be harassed in real life for their opinions on a number of aspects that are “religious” to others; think of some of the genuine hate shown re: abortion rights, sinn fein, immigrants, football teams.

Stephen, though our blasphemy laws are stupid and wrong, when is the last time you’ve heard of them being used?

As a matter of fact, when’s the last time an Irish cartoonist was executed outside a court for insulting Jesus?

It simply doesn’t happen. We are fully entitled to criticise such savagery where it does happen.

MOLainn, a few you say, you obviously haven’t a clue what you are talking about. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/fay-al-benhassain/french-study-makes-waves-finding-28-percent-muslims-lean-towards

In Ireland the left wants to get rid of blasphemy laws and replace them with “hate speech” laws. They just want to control what is consider offensive instead of the church.

Blasphemy laws and hate speech laws are two sides of the same ugly coin.

Stupid limits on freedom of expression, whether archaic or modern, should have no place in our law.

I dislike authoritarian and repressive religions. I dislike Islam in particular by I do not judge the adherents of any religion by the actions of a relatively small proportion of the adherents if that religion. Most people are good and kind. That innate quality is usually not subverted by the religious conditioning but some are vile rabble to religious brain washing.

I think that notions of Mohammed and Allah, as well as God and Virgin Marys, are superstitions.

But just because a significant number of Roman Catholic Priests have been paedophiles, does not make all Roman Catholics paedophiles and, just because some Muslims are Jihadist terrorists, does not make all Muslims Jihadists.

Hating 1.2 billion Muslims in the world and tarring all Muslims with the same brush will just trigger mass religious conflict, thus serving the agenda of Daesh/ISIS.

This Trump idea of banning Muslims entering the country might just be a good idea.They are the focal point of all the shit going on in the world. How bad would it be that if one wanted to be a practicing Muslim,one must live in a predominant Muslim country ! They won’t have to be disgusted and appalled living amongst us filthy infidels and can do what they like to each other.

Malachi, we might not have the crazy extremists outside the courts killing people, but we do haver extreme laws. That we haven’t used them is no guarantee that we won’t. The laws are there after all and they would stand in court.

@Mac Ready: After the criminals who murdered JF.Kennedy, after he wished to destroy the FED and in his own words “ Smash the CIA to pieces” the USA was hijacked by this same criminal element.
Problem today is, if this extremely aggressive Land which was built on murdering millions of indigenous people have at the moment no more false flags such as Tonkin Bay (Vietnam) and 9-11 this aggression will turn inwards and destroy the US completely. The majority of people today know that the US and Israel created ISIS and the Gulf States financed this monstrosity, so people are slowly becoming less and less afraid of this bogeyman. 35 percent of American people do not now believe in the official version of 9/11 and this number is growing. So a new enemy must be created.
The so called (self inflicted) war on terror cannot extract enough money from congress to increase military spending so the next bogeyman and false flag is impending. My prognosis is that the inevitable financial crash in the next few months, much worse than 2008 will be blamed on a hack from Russia or China. This will provide justification for further extraction of hard working American taxpayer money for much larger and more expensive arms that will provide the military industrial complex with lucrative profits, even at the cost of murdering millions of innocent people.
Then we will all be informed: Muslims are not so much of a threat after all. It’s the Chinese, the Russians, the Hottentots or whatever. So prepare yourselves for whom you will be taught to hate next .

Michael, in your haste to run away from the falsehood that is “all muslims are violent jihadis”, you miss the real point.

Though not all muslims harbour violent fantasies about killing infidel, the data shows (Pew polling) that in many muslim countries a MAJORITY sympathise with terrorist violence against civilians, agree with a death penalty for apostasy, agree with death by stoning for adultery, etc.

To ignore the millions, hundreds of millions of muslims who have a problem with basic human rights would be foolish. There is a problem with Islam.

Michael.. Judge Islam on the actions and life of its founder, Muhammad, then get back to us.

The agenda of ISIS and Muhammad the so called prophet and founder of Islam, please explain the difference you seem to see?

If someone asked me if I red thumbed them .. I’d tell them ..

@Mike Cantwell:
Mike there are many Muslim Brotherhood paid internet shils all over the news media who also rip off our welfare and pay no taxes on the blood money they get. Islamic ZAKAT,the Muslim mandatory tax that amounts to about $200 billion anually allow 1/8 of this money for various kinds of Jihad including propaganda Jihad against non-Mslims. See below for full explanation.
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—”Zakat used “in Allah’s cause” is dedicated in Sunni Islam for Jihad, both in the narrow sense of “waging war on Allah’s enemies” (non-Muslims) and in the wider sense that it “applies to all those efforts that are made to degrade the word of kufr and to exalt the Word of Allah and to establish the Islamic System of life, whether by propagating the Message of Allah in the initial stage [i.e. by hand and tongue/pen jihad] or by fighting [i.e. sword-Jihad] in the final stage of the struggle”. What this means is that Islamic “charity” is directly used to promote the killing of non-Muslims as well as all other efforts to subvert the non-Islamic world.—”
http://www.islam-watch.org/home/165-jon-mc/1523-how-zakat-the-islamic-charity-tax-is-to-be-used-according-to-islam.html

Everybody criticizes the Germans today because they did not stand up to Hitler. The German people at that time had very little access to information outside of State propaganda. Today we have no excuse. There is something happening to us today subliminally we do not even realize it . as in Germany 35 to 45.
US and Israel support for ISIS :
: Now as Syria and Russia are in the process of completely destroying ISIS, we realize theUS have always planned to reward them with their own illegal state complete with oil and gas resources, plus US protection.
“Deir Ezzor Attack Enables The “Salafist Principality” As Foreseen In The 2012 DIA Analysis
Two recent attacks against the Syrian Arab Army in east-Syria point to a U.S. plan to eliminate all Syrian government presence east of Palmyra. This would enable the U.S. and its allies to create a “Sunni entity” in east-Syria and west-Iraq which would be a permanent thorn in side of Syria and its allies.
A 2012 analysis by the Defense Intelligence Agency said:
THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME …
Note that the described plan mentions exactly two cities – Hasakah and Deir Ezzor.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/deir-ezzor-attack-enables-the-salafist-principality-forseen-in-the-2012-dia-analysis.html

@Alien8:
So basically, you are a coward and don’t have the courage of your convictions?

Here’s how the US, Israel, al-Qaeda and ISIS work together in Syria
Afra’a Dagher Simultaneous US and Israeli airstrikes on Syrian military positions in the eastern city of Deir-ez-Zour and in Al-Quneitra show how the US and Israel manipulate ISIS and Al-Qaeda to wage their war of aggression against Syria.
The Syrian battlefield is now witnessing an escalation of the war. This is despite the fact that it is supposed to be a time of cessation of hostilities brokered by the US and Russia.
The Syrian war has two major fronts. The first and most important is in southern Syria, on the borderline with Israel and the occupied territories of the Syrian Golan Heights. This area is divided into two areas: the liberated area of Al-Quneitra, and the occupied area of the Golan Heights where Jabhat Al-Nusra and Al-Qaeda’s base their fighters.
Israel has been attempting to drive the Syrian army out of Al-Quneitra. Israel’s objective is to join this part of the Golan Heights to the territory it controls, thereby creating a buffer zone like the one it once had in southern Lebanon. In order to achieve this objective Israel regularly bombs Syrian military positions in the area, including Syrian Arab Army artillery positions, radar stations, etc.
http://theduran.com/how-the-us-israel-al-qaeda-and-isis-work-together-in-the-war-against-syria/
http://theduran.com/how-the-us-israel-al-qaeda-and-isis-work-together-in-the-war-against-syria/

@Pat O’Dwyer:
Along with the Muslim Brotherhood paid internet propagandists we also have to contend with neo-Soviet propagandists,who are supplied wiyh all the internet skills and facilities paid for by Russia, demonizing The West esp. the US.
Otherwise why is the likes of Pat O’Dwyer demonizing the US and the West,and Israel,etc. Big grains of salt needed when reading his propaganda.

@Pat O’Dwyer:
Jesus unlike Pat J you have no independent thought. all your posts are identical and structured.

@Pat O’Dwyer
ahhaha also noted that at has nothing posted on facebook since 2015. hmmm fake account??:

Muslims ..a great bunch of lads ..kinda people you’d want as neighbours. ..to work with ..to be offended with… imagine it every day some drama or other about a 2000 year old book on how to kill people ..Muslims sure ya cant beat them.

I disagree Alien8. Because people don’t have to take responsibility for posts, they write done awful tripe. If people had to stand over what they wrote I believe we would have Mich more valuable discussions on forums like this one.

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: Unlike you, nobody pays me. I have two small children and wish to protect them from a nuclear disaster ,in which the US ( Not their people)are heading for fast track at the moment because of their never ending and insatiable greed and hegemonic ideals. I repeat :Everybody criticizes the Germans today because they did not stand up to Hitler. The German people at that time had very little access to information outside of State propaganda. Today we have no excuse. There is something happening to us today subliminally we do not even realize it . as in Germany 35 to 45.At that time people were really led to believe “ Jews steal your money, they eat baby’s etc”All complete rubbish of course.

“We Are the New Nazis…
By Peter White
After more than two decades of continuous war against countries we bombed with which we were officially at peace, and then invaded, and after millions have been killed and after billions have been spent to finance America’s illegal wars, we are no safer than we were before 9-11 and the world is facing the greatest refugee and worst humanitarian crisis since WW II. The United States is to blame for these wars of atrocity and the American political class that promulgated them are war criminals. In short, we Americans are the new Nazis of the world disorder.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-are-the-new-nazis/5546623

@Patrick J O’CONNOR: I am really surprised that the Journal has not banned you for spreading “HATE SPEECH”.
In my company in Germany I had many Muslim workers. I and my employees never treated them any different to Germans. This all changed dramatically after the false flag event of 9/11.
Not one word about this in the media, which is noteworthy, considering the effects of the brainwashing of gullible people and it’s ultimate goal.
“More than 30,000 Muslims from across the world meet in the UK to reject Isis and Islamic extremism
‘The only thing the terrorists are achieving is to completely violate the teachings of the Holy Koran and of the Holy Prophet Muhammad,’ said His Holiness, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-30000-ahmadiyya-muslims-from-across-the-world-meet-in-the-uk-to-reject-isis-and-islamic-a7191306.html

Islam is the religion that demands you respect it or you go to jail or die. What a great world we live in. So if I don’t agree that a sky fairy lives in the sky and don’t deny science I can go to jail or face certain death.
Oh my, I’m so excited that we have all that to look forward to within 20 years in Europe.

Free speech is just hate speech to someone who doesn’t like what they have heard.

@Pat O’Dwyer:
“In my company in Germany I had many Muslim workers. I and my employees never treated them any different to Germans. This all changed dramatically after the false flag event of 9/11.”
So what happened your company? Were all the muslims foreign? do you treat german muslims different than turkish? should everyone?

@Crimson:
no, no its not. will i have to explain to you?

@Pat O’Dwyer:
Youa are surprised I am not banned for telling the truth as I see it on the Journal. This is a basic right in the Democratic West.. Obviously after 10 + yrs. living in Russia you have gone native and become accustomed to haven’ someone whose ideas you don’t like bumped off whatever media they attempt to speak via. How many times have you complained to the Journal?

Nicely put Pat

From one Kuffar to another, your alright no need,thanks.

@Malachi: you might be interested in this piece that includes Dept of justice guidance to a filmmaker about the application of the blasphemy law. http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/It-looks-like-Louis-Therouxs-My-Scientology-Movie-wont-get-an-Irish-release-due-to-blasphemy-laws/385722.htm

@Critical_Thinker:
When the right stop using it as a way to discriminate. I dont like any religion and i also think that Islam mixed with particular cultures is an abomination but if you equate every muslim with what happens in the news i cant agree with that

@Critical. When will the left stop defending what exactly? I don’t hear anyone defending murder of someone for expressing themselves. It is a shocking act that could only be carried out by a despicable person, duped by fanatics who pretend they know what god wills.

That said, you can be sure in all Muslim states that there is a silent majority of normal people like you and me who just want to live their lives, who have no time for murder but cannot come out and say it because of a minority of religious fanatics stirring the idiots to violence and mob mentality.

@James. The ideology is not welcome here….. But normal peaceful people fleeing a war zone whose homes and lives have been destroyed should be..

@john doe: You’re simply incorrect. The left’s failure is a refusal to observe reality when it doesn’t fit what they want to believe:

96% of Jordanian Muslims say homosexuality is immoral
96% say sex outside marriage is immoral
66% say honour killings of women can be justified

72% of Jordanian Muslims support making sharia the law of the land.
Of that 72%:
82% support the death penalty for apostasy
67% support stoning for adultery

Those majorities do not consider themselves to be religious fanatics. They believe they are far more moral than non-muslim westerners and that such violence is the will of God which they are simply carrying out. The above are normal views among Jordanian muslims. Are they peaceful? Well, that depends on how you define peace. They would define peace according to the Quran as a kind of spiritual peace that comes from submission to the will of God as set out in that book.

@Gareth Murphy: The left defends it by doing nothing, by shouting down legitimate criticism of Islam as hate speech, by trotting out the eternal strawman that all critics are calling all muslims everywhere are fanatics etc.

But it’s the actions of the left and the liberal mainstream that speak far louder than words. They do absolutely nothing effective to counter such religious fanaticism in Europe, including in Ireland. It’s cowardice dressed up as virtue, nothing more.

john doe, those people have been born and reared in those societies. It is unrealistic to expect that they can come, but that they’ll leave their ideas and beliefs at home. Because they won’t. And those ideas and beliefs are wholly incompatible with ours. We’ve seen enough of what’s happening in France and Germany and Sweden etc to know that.

@Marlowemallow: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-morality/

Yeah it’s all the left’s fault. Except it wasn’t the left forced those treaties on the EU allowing free movement (enableing movement for terrorists). It wasn’t the left that has been allowing thousands of EU citizens to travel to to fight with IS. It wasn’t the left that started all the conflicts that led to the current mess in the ME and the refugee crisis. It wasn’t the left that invited all refugees to Europe. In fact all those things were done by conservative, right and centre right governments. And what have the left done? Insisted on treating Muslims (and other refugees) like human beings. And refuse to tar them all with the same brush.

@Gareth Murphy:

“it’s all the left’s fault.” = strawman. As I said, one of the failures of the left is its insistence on strawmen rather than actually dealing with the argument. Logic is not a form of western cultural supremacism.

It’s what the left has not done that makes all the difference. I notice you’ve ignored that point.

Cheers James.

Thanks to the internet, such barbarians won’t get away with religious censorship as easily.

@M’OL

“Will it help?”

Well, every time a cartoonist is executed for insulting Islam (as is now a regular occurrence), circulating the cartoon to as many people as possible online demonstrates to the savages that their savagery is futile.

They will have to realise that by murdering a cartoonist in cold blood, they bring more attention to his work. The media should play their part in this too, but due to fear of reprisal and for fear of causing offence, they don’t circulate the cartoons.

It is down to us to shove it in the face of the religious censors who seek to stifle criticism of their ideology through public executions. That is why we should give the cartoon of a fallen cartoonist as much attention as possible.

@James Odin:
haha, it’s a pretty good satire cartoon. People who think their religion is more important than a life needs a new reilgion

@Seymour business: Sad thing is that Jordan is one of the most open and sane societies in the Islamic World…in Saudi Arabia and many other Islamic countries the guy wouldn’t even have been entitled to a proper trial in the first place.

@Gareth Murphy: The fact that Christian communities are targeted specifically for their faith is played down every time. The public here have no idea of what is really going on.

Well a quick Google search showed that there is quite a lot of media coverage about it. Maybe not Irish media but euronews and all the big US outlets have covered it extensively. It probably doesn’t help that they’re not the only group getting specifically targeted in the Syrian conflict or wider middle east. To be honest I feel no more affinity with the Arab Christian than I do with a Druze, Kurd, Shiite or any other group you’d care to single out.

@Gareth Murphy: Only selected media outlets, (including smaller ‘Christian based’ news sources) are covering the story of the specific targeting of Christian communities.
Some British news outlets such as the ‘Telegraph’ have done so also – but Irish media virtually ignoring it altogether. As for Amnesty Ireland they are very careful to exclude the word ‘Christian’ when compiling their reports.
Make no mistake – this catastrophe is being ‘played down’ and kept out of the public domain, and that omission is deliberate.

@Zoe Daly:
The big money from the NGS and Govts. are onle available when a so-called Palestinian gets killed for stabbing Jewish citizens of Israel.. Air fares luxury hotels with all the security of the State of Israel while they report back slanting the facts and demonizing Israel,the only democratic state in the ME.
They forget the old Arab Muslim adage-’Begin on Sat,Finish on Sun.= Kill the Jews first and after kill the Christians.

@Stephen Coveney: 84% of muslims in Pakistan support making sharia the official law of the land.
Of those, 89% support stoning for adultery and 76% support the death penalty for leaving islam – apostasy. They didn’t ask about blasphemy specifically but they hardly need to. The vast majority of Pakistani muslims are violently intolerant of freedom of conscience and that’s an Islamic problem, not a specifically Pakistani one. Popular imams in the UK are on record as supporting Qadri.

@Marlowemallow: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/01/funeral-pakistani-mumtaz-qadri-executed-salmaan-taseer?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other