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INDEPENDENT ALLIANCE MEMBERS are still of the view that the alliance’s members should get a free vote on AAA-PBP’s bill on repealing the Eighth Amendment.
A Private Members Bill is to be debated on 25 October, with a vote taking place on 27 October.
The bill calls for a referendum to be held to repeal the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution and allow the Dáil to legislate for abortion services in Ireland.
An Independent Alliance source said the members have the same thoughts on the bill as they did on Mick Wallace’s legislation on fatal foetal abnormalities.
Free vote
Earlier this month, TheJournal.ie reported that members of the Independent Alliance wanted to avoid the “hassle” of the Wallace bill, which caused a divide in Government, and wanted a free vote to be granted this time around.
Reports this week that members had changed their stance on the issue and would support the Government were shot down yesterday.
A government spokesperson for the Independent Alliance said the rumour their viewpoint had changed was “wide off the mark”, adding there was “no substance in that at all”.
It’s understood they are holding the position that they did on Wallace’s bill and want a free vote on the issue.
It’s expected that Sports Minister Shane Ross, and junior ministers John Halligan and Finian McGrath would support the bill.
Junior minister Sean Canney and Kevin ‘Boxer’ Moran are expected to vote against the bill, along with the government.
Abortion rights
Minister of State for Skills and Training, John Halligan, who has long been a thorn in the side of the government, has said on the record he will vote against government on the issue. Abortion rights is an issue he has spoken passionately about in the Dáil.
In an interview with TheJournal.ie before the summer, Halligan said he made it clear during government formation talks with Fine Gael that he is pro-choice, stating that it “didn’t go down well”.
When asked what way he would vote, he said:
I will vote any way I want to vote on that too. I will be voting to repeal the Eighth Amendment. It is not in programme of government from what I can see. And out that will go. I am not obliged to vote with the government on that, so that doesn’t impact on my principle on that.
Members of the Independent Alliance met yesterday evening to discuss the issue, though it’s understood no formal decision on the vote has been made.
Similar to Wallace’s bill, which divided the minority government, it’s understood negotiations on this issue “will go down to the wire”, according to one source.
Calling for support
AAA-PBP TD Bríd Smith has called on Children’s Minister Katherine Minister Zappone, the Independent Alliance, Labour and Sinn Fein to support the Bill.
Referring to Zappone and specific members in the Independent Alliance, Smith said that “those who signed the pledge by the Repeal 8 Coalition and who, most importantly, marched for choice in September should vote for the AAA-PBP bill because it is the quickest way to repeal the 8th”.
Putting the pressure on, Smith also said that TD’s and Ministers who claim to be pro-repeal should not abandon their principles.
“I am calling on all pro-repeal people to join us outside the Dáil so that we can put pressure on the TDs and parties in the Oireachtas to vote for our bill.
“Anyone who does not vote for this bill, who claims to hold a pro-repeal position, is abandoning their principles and letting down women all over this country,” she said.
A government spokesperson said all government members signed up to the Citizens’ Assembly, and that process should be respected.
It’s understood the Taoiseach’s preference is that there be a consensus on the issue amongst government members and that the assembly be allowed to do its work.
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You’d be fair fecking cold if you only grabbed your hat and scarf..
No scorchio.
Hat scarf and sock
Dont forget your copy of the Holly Bough
I hope it drops down to below Zero & freezes the shxxe outa all the germs, virus’s & infections that are doing the rounds now. So many people sick with all the dirty fog & damp weather. A decent blast of frost & ice will soon solve that.
It was -36 here in Calgary yesterday . A day for the high stool and the bovril !
Ronan, I remember a friend of mine who emigrated to Edmonton, he said Ireland always felt colder when he came home for Christmas because of the damp.
I’d still rather be short taken in Enniscorthy than Edmonton though.
I was in Regina, Saskatchewan in central Canada for 3 weeks on a business trip. Just home a few days…. The first week or so it was -22 Celsius on a good day! Took your breath away! Crazy cold. Wind chill brought it down to – 31 Celsius. But Ireland’s damp cold is something to behold.
when was the last time met eireann got the weather forecast right?
Today?
Nowhere near to -2…
The forecast rain moving across the country and a night-time low of -2, we got both .
What a time to shave off my MO. My top lip will be cold tomorrow.
I really hope you’re a fella?.
Grab the duvet and stay in bed
Roll on summer!
No no no.it’s the warmest 1st week in December on record.
I’ll believe it when I feel it.
I have my hat got since last week (and I have rarely taken it off) but I still refuse to wear my winter jacket. Has to drop to below 0 for that.
When does it not feel cold and wintry…only stating the obvious.
Where were you all summer?
I have a whopper scarf and hat. Jacomos.com is the spot. Clothes only whop they are
Great. Just when my boiler decides to have a tantrum.
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