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Repeal the Eighth Bill blocked in the Dáil after government deal

Fine Gael, the Independent Alliance and independents in government took a unified approach to the issue.

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THE AAA-PBP BILL that could have paved the way for a referendum on the Eighth Amendment has been blocked in the Dáil.

The legislation, championed by Bríd Smith and Ruth Coppinger, would allow for a popular vote on whether Ireland’s constitutional ban on abortion should be removed.

However, the government (Fine Gael, the Independent Alliance and other independents) made a deal earlier this week to ensure the bill would not be accepted.

It tabled a counter-motion today to make a ‘reasoned amendment’ to the bill. The government argued that it wants the Citizens’ Assembly to complete its work on the issue over the next six months before associated legislation is brought to the chamber.

Today’s counter-motion passed with 96 votes to 47, defeating the original bill.

Fianna Fáil was given a free vote on the issue with just five of its deputies voting against the government. Sinn Féin, the Green Party, Independents 4 Change, Labour and the Social Democrats supported the AAA-PBP bill.

Two TDs abstained.

The Eighth Amendment

The Eighth Amendment to the Constitution grants the equal right to life to the mother and the unborn child.

The AAA-PBP bill had been contentious, with members of the Independent Alliance in government initially wanting a free vote on the matter.

Fine Gael, however, has been keen to avoid a similar situation as had occurred with Independents 4 Change TD Mick Wallace’s bill earlier in the Dáil term.

In that instance, the Wexford TD had put forward a bill which would have allowed for abortions in situations where a child would not live outside the womb.

The bill failed to pass, but it was backed by Minister for Transport Shane Ross and junior ministers John Halligan and Finian McGrath, who voted against government advice.

With reporting by Cormac Fitzgerald

More: 14 TDs in Dáil chamber as Bríd Smith produces packet of abortion pills

Read: Coppinger blasts ‘sell-out independents’ after Government adopts unified stance on abortion bill

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:11 PM

    This is result of letting a cult like group involve into our way of life support by a blind and deaf pc brigade. It to late for change Ireland has little hope and maybe some other countries. The UK is finished it be very hard task to undo what has grown there.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:17 PM

    @: you mean Christianity?

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:30 PM

    @: are you talking about jehovahs? Mormons?
    Actually they are not that bad once you get to know them
    Admittedly they have some odd customs with blood and marriage and beliefs ;-)

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:38 PM

    Returning Islamic State Jihadis popping back to receive their benefits.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:21 PM

    Send them back to their Islamic state and let e SAA, Kurds, Syriacs, Yazidi, Iraqis finish them off….https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/36225430/yazidi-children-held-by-islamic-state-found-in-hospital-basement-in-mosul/#page1

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:26 PM

    More Rats leaving the sinking ship that is isis . There’ll be plenty more of this type of arrest in the coming weeks , however Mayor Khan will try and get them housed in Chelsea , in those new 1.8 million pound council houses .

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:27 PM

    Don’t be daft. Sadiq Khan’s alright. And the last thing he wants is more terror tearing through the streets of London.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:42 PM

    @Mick Tobin: Don’t be daft ? This is the man who wanted the president of the United States banned because he had put a temporary ban on 6 countries , while the mayor himself when he was a lawyer defended Islamic militants , pushed for Louis Farakhan to be allowed into the country , even though he had called for a genocide of white people , had shared speaking platforms with convicted islamic terrorists , has spoken at muslim meetings where isis banners have been flown , called moderate muslims ”Uncle Toms” and says the Met Police do not have enough funds to follow returned Jihadis , even though he took money and personnel from their resources to set up a unit to chase down people who said things against islam on social media platforms .

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:58 PM

    @Ken Hayden: I will look into this, but contexts do matter. The mayor of Rotterdam, also a muslim, has also been accused of sharing the stage with people with radical ideas, but he in fact told them to p*** off elsewhere if they didn’t like it here.

    Khan is right to shun divisions in the city, and my feeling’s been that this has been behind what he’s done, at least recently.

    But sure, it pays to be critical, and I’ve taken note of what you just said. However, I now need to badly go and play Irish tunes in the pub, so I bid you goodbye for now.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 4:47 PM

    @Ken Hayden: defended Islamic militants? Can you clarify whether that was as a lawyer or as a citizen? Also can you clarify that it wasn’t perpetrators of 9/11 as was previously stated on this site?

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    Jul 1st 2017, 6:24 PM

    @Mick Tobin: He was a legal consultant for Zacarius Moussaoui , the shoe bomber .
    There are links here to various news reports and video clips , if you follow them you will open up a trail . I will give you two links , one about Khan and the other about the Quilliam foundation .
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-27/london-mayors-ties-extremism-call-commitment-fighting-terror-question
    https://medium.com/@jonasspooner/blowback-in-manchester-and-why-quilliam-must-be-investigated-f9472be1f26c

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    Jul 1st 2017, 9:11 PM

    @Ken Hayden: In the second link you will also find a connection to Irish Jihadis . I probably couldn’t say the name here , but you will find it .

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:55 PM

    Why even entertain them. Round up their family and put them all on a flight back to where they came from. Free flight home, everyone is a winner. Especially the UK taxpayer.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 6:22 PM

    @KingBen: put their families back on flights to Leicester and Birmingham?

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    Jul 1st 2017, 6:41 PM

    @Richard Lippy Collins: no, they are not from Leicester or Birmingham. I’d suggest the middle east somewhere, doesn’t really matter. Just out of the country that welcomed them and gave them free houses, education, health and opportunities.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 10:02 PM

    @KingBen: yep,lock stock,and barrel,,,total

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:13 PM

    Muslim and western values are not compatible we must stand up and defend our native cultures before Islamic domination prevails . it’s simple, Europe must wake up. Many parts of France,Britain,Holland and Belgium it’s too already too late . Ultimately it’s a numbers game, we must not ever allow what’s happened in Germany(2015) to happen elsewhere or else it’s all over

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    Jul 1st 2017, 3:05 PM

    There should be super severe law for that, if found connected to terrorist cell they should have UK citizenships scraped and sent back to Turkey, never allow them back. With law like this all terrorists to be will think twice.

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    Jul 1st 2017, 2:21 PM

    Those pesky atheists at it again…. Oh wait

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    Jul 3rd 2017, 5:01 PM

    Islam is to spread in every country and this is meant to be a good thing….. come on cop on, their way of living not suited for western life sure most of them say it themselves, only one solution if you want to fit in adjust to the country you choose to live in and respect our Christian value and our country, nobody’s saying convert but just remembered your choose to move to Christian Europe, and stop playing the race card when you don’t get your ways….

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