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Gardaí don't believe young sex workers were operating Galway brothel on their own

The four women, in their 20s and 30s, were fined in court yesterday.

GARDAÍ BELIEVE FOUR young, vulnerable Romanian women who were arrested in Galway over the weekend were trafficked into Ireland by a criminal gang to work in brothels across the country.

The four women, aged 21, 22, 23 and 30, who appeared before a special court sitting in Galway yesterday, are believed to have been brought into the country by either Dublin or Belfast-based pimps to provide sexual services for a large number of men through the Escort Ireland website.

The four young women deny this and claim they were acting alone to raise money for their impoverished families in Romania.

They were arrested at An Larnach, Bohermore, Galway, at 11pm on Saturday night, 29 October, and pleaded guilty straight away to operating a brothel at that address.

The arrests were made an hour after gardaí quizzed a man leaving the apartment who said he had just paid €70 for sexual favours.

Detective Sergeant Willie Byrne told the special sitting of Galway District Court that gardaí were carrying out surveillance of the apartment over the last number of weeks and they executed a search warrant on speaking to the man after he left the apartment at 10pm on Saturday night.

The four women were taken to Galway Garda Station where they accepted full responsibility for operating a brothel.

They were brought before a special sitting of Galway District Court today where they huddled together as an interpreter explained what was being said for them.

Byrne gave evidence that gardaí did not know how long the young women were in Ireland but they had been in Mayo last week and, after spending a week in Galway, it was their intention to go to Wexford next week.

The young women told gardaí they had only arrived in Ireland last week and were acting alone, but Detective Byrne said he did not accept this.

In any event, they are four little girls and they made full admissions that they were providing sexual services to a large number of men through the website, Escort Ireland.

“They were paying €700 rent to a greedy landlord for an apartment that they should have been paying €350 for. So, they were being used and abused by a lot of people,” Byrne added.

In reply to Judge Gerard Furlong, Byrne said he didn’t believe the women when they told him they worked alone.

“I believe they are under the control of Dublin or Belfast-based pimps. They were in Mayo last week, Galway this week and Wexford next week. That would have to be organised by others. They wouldn’t have the ‘wherewithal’ to organise that themselves,” he continued in evidence.

Gardaí confiscated €5,000 cash from the women, he added.

Judge Furlong said he accepted the women had not set up the brothel themselves and another party – who was not before the court at this time - was involved.

He asked if the women had been put in touch with organisations which would help women in their situation.

Byrne said he had mentioned the help certain organisations could afford them, but the women had assured him they were not trafficked into the country and they weren’t under any pressure.

They said they would prefer to be repatriated back to Romania and he said he hoped what they had told him was genuine.

Judge Furlong said the women should be made aware of organisations that were there to assist them.

Defence solicitor Brian Gilmartin said all of the women came from a very poor area in Romania and they told him they had come to Ireland to make some money to help their parents, some of whom were seriously ill.

“They are somewhat vulnerable and they didn’t believe their actions would bring them before the courts. They have spent two nights in garda custody and it’s been a frightening experience for them,” he added.

Ruling the women were being used by others not before the court, Judge Furlong convicted and fined each of them €200, payable forthwith and asked the gardaí to put them in contact with the relevant organisations who would help them.

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    Mute Al Ca
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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:13 PM

    ’15,000 people were known to police in France as having been radicalised’

    Islam….the religion of peace…………………………not!

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:10 PM

    Exactly my point. I’m french. Let me tell you that the police in France are verrrryy incompetent

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:14 PM

    @oliver I believe they are not so incompetent when it’s about harassing refugees…

    @al ca The number of Muslims in France is estimated to exceed 4 million. But it’s ok to just ignore a fact that make your comment sound just irrelevant.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:27 PM

    Ok so not incompetent? Explain to me what happend in the case of Jacqueline sauvage? If she went to show them her bruises they would have laughed at her. Tu est francais? Ce problem avec les Arab cest merci Sarkozy!

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:00 PM

    @oliverjunelle

    The problem with the ‘Arabs’ in France is a problem for a very long time now and has more to do with your colonial history and a failed immigration and integration policy going back decades!
    Sarkozy was still a little school boy when the problem started!

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:06 PM

    In all fairness the French treat the Muslims in their Country as second class citizens. They do not help themselves.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:42 PM

    Are you really blaming the innocent French citizens for the savagery by Islamic terrorists!! Unbelievable

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:09 PM

    Rebecca, in fairness the French treat all foreigner’s in their country, as second class citizens.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:09 PM

    No wrong. They isolate themselves into there own communities and seldom go beyond that. Just like parts of England like bradford

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:10 PM

    Yes I’m aware of that. I was talking about the social tension! That’s the fault of Sarkozy

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:19 PM

    @ Oliver it’s a social issue. .. Foreigners, with low incomes, were parked in the same areas by local administration. It’s well known. Also it started long time before that thing called Sarkozy showed up.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:40 PM

    Yes I agree. But are those area’s walled off from society? No. They chose to isolate themselves of there own free will

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:57 PM

    You don’t see a contradiction there… people were kept away from city centres and miles away from where the jobs were. Besides there were no transport for years until people protested.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:02 PM

    I spend a lot of time in France. You ask a French person what they think of Muslims and they call them every name under the sun.

    I know plenty of French Algerians as I have Algerian connections and they integrate and behave like French but get treated like sh**. Give out all you want but I have first hand experience of this.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:03 PM

    Cholly. This has been going on since the 19th century. Look up the French Algerian war. Educate yourself and then argue with me.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:41 PM

    So you are blaming the French citizens? Are you a Muslim Rebecca?are you sympathising with the terrorists?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:28 PM

    The problem with Islam in France is two things…one is that the French have bent over backwards in accommodating Islam without any demands..failure in integration is not talked about due to the thin line between racism and the truth, the ‘us and them’. The other is that many Muslims don’t speak out against so called extremists because they see themselves as the victims. They’re Muslim before their French.

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    Sep 12th 2016, 12:49 AM

    @prouesse/prossie….more mumbo jumbo nonsense from you….if you’re going to draw attention to yourself with your apologist rubbish, at least form coherent sentences…lol

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    Sep 12th 2016, 1:54 AM

    Oliverjumelle, would you say that the ordinary French citizen is unaware of France’s colonial history? I was surprised to discover that a large percentage of English citizens knew nothing of their own army’s history of operations around the world, and especially in Ireland. Is it a colonial thing, drawn from fear, similar to the WW2 German citizens isolating themselves from their army’s attrocities? I’m just wondering what the reasons are for citizens isolating themselves.

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    Sep 12th 2016, 8:14 AM

    @mistart Not my fault if you can’t read… I won’t apologize for that either.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:08 PM

    These are the people and the ideology LÊ James Joyce are ferrying into Europe by the boatload.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:58 PM

    How do you know?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:02 PM

    No they’re not its all home grown , very little of the terrorist or the one who plotted terrorist attack came with the refugees, not making apologies for their actions but it’s a fact . France isolated Muslim population from ww2 onwards in suburbs you wouldn’t house your dog in . They have no feelings of belonging into neither France nor the country where there grand parents came from and therefore are very easily indoctrinated.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:16 PM

    So France deserves whatever it gets…?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:39 PM

    What the current wave of migrants and the French and European jihadists have in common to some extent is their religion (those arriving now from Libya are a far more mixed group). And a fundamentalist version of Islam is the ideology that supports violent jihad against unbelievers. Some of the migrants will already be extremists since there are active jihadist groups in most if not all parts of the muslim world. A proportion of the others will adopt that ideology over time – it’s statistically inevitable. So yes, migration is connected to home-grown terrorism.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:46 PM

    No one deserves to have innocent civilians butchered not even Iraq Syria or Libya… My point was it is not refugees perpetrating those atrocities its homegrown been in France Belgium or Germany and I was just explaining why it’s so east to recruit jihadists in those countries

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:05 PM

    That explanation holds no water whatsoever. There are millions if not billions of people around the world who experience discrimination, prejudice, racism, persecution etc. The overwhelming majority produce nothing comparable to violent jihadist movements. And violent jihadist movement exist in places where muslims are the majority population and are in no way oppressed (try Bangladesh for starters). It is a global phenomenon which has existed for 1400 years in a multitude of conditions and cultures. The single connecting thread is fundamentalist Islam.

    If you understand that ideology you will understand why one of its expressions is a sense of victimhood and persecution where no such conditions objectively exist and even where your group is in fact the persecuting group. It’s a victimhood internal to the belief system and independent of objective conditions. Thwarted supremacism looks and sounds exactly like genuine victimhood.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:14 PM

    ‘victimhood’ three times in the last paragraph: you need a thesaurus

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:04 PM

    William bayle- at the end of the day france was still helping these people by housing them and so on,why didnt they educate themselves or their children and move on if they dont like it so much,make something of themselves for their younger generations, useless pieces of shit. Too used to taking for free,they have a totally different look at human life rared to be like that. I dread to see europe in 20 years

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Sean…i have to agree with you there.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:52 PM

    @sean France was helping those people by housing them ? What ? France went recruiting in its colonies to get cheap labour to rebuild the country after ww2. They housed them as cheap as possible in 30 storey high towers away from everything, those buildings were not even maintained properly. Would have been very hard to integrate. You say they should have educate themselves, fine true what medium ? Very little service was provided to them to help integration not even buses to go to the nearest town . I agree with you on one point I would hate to see France and Europe in 10 years never mind 20

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    Sep 14th 2016, 9:13 PM

    Yes i do believe that william. They where given the option of going to france to seek refuge from their worthorne country’s they wer not forced to slavery yes it did help france in rebuilding itself economicly. Ok maybe housing and loacating them had a different standard compared to todays world but i can garuntee u that there where french citizens familys in thoses area’s too who have evolved much differently. Same goes for syria today, europe taking in the refugee’s is good from an economical view, it will boost the economy in the long run it wil provide cheaper labour to area’s that need it eventually when they start working… Look at Our children these days all want to go to college be educated and get brilliant jobs for themselves and so on compared to 100 years ago. who picks up the small jobs that are left vacant? Refugees mostly! It happens everywhere where the economy and the standard of life is growing faster than the population turn over

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:10 PM

    “15 year old boy”….or in Ireland – A vulnerable young person.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:13 PM

    you don’t find 15 year olds vulnerable? thats worrying

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:23 PM

    15,000 + 1,000,000+ migrants.

    God help Europe. Lots of terror to come

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:58 PM

    God is the problem, she’s not going to help…

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:13 PM

    A Mormon id say

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:32 PM

    A fifteen year old with mental health issues, prozac will cure him.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:34 PM

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hillary-clinton-collapse-faint-video-9-11-memorial-democrat-ill-overheated-latest-a7237276.html

    Damning video of Clinton fainting at 9/11 ceremony today she had to leave early and lost a shoe.

    She’s a liar and now she’s been caught again.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:42 PM

    I’m sure the journal will get around to covering it in a day or two once they’ve picked up the correct spin from the Clinton campaign.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:50 PM

    What’s damning about the video?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:14 PM

    prats

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:03 PM

    Said it before. And will say it again. Devils Island. Perfect for a European Gitmo. Round every single Islamist on every European Security Service watch list and ship them out.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:15 PM

    there’s no need to repeat yourself

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    Sep 11th 2016, 5:40 PM

    If I was an Islamic terrorist organiser and had control over these 15,000, I’d tell them to act chill and continue waiting for the number grow.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:15 PM

    “if”? sure….

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    Sep 11th 2016, 11:47 PM

    Fook Pisslam.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:18 PM

    Here we go again with the same non-sense some commenters love serving here: migrants – though the article has nothing to do with them – mean terrorist; Muslims are bad bad people; the situation is not complicated at all, it’s just a matter of political willingness to jail anyone in sight or not… And so on!

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    Sep 11th 2016, 6:43 PM

    Where in my comments did I say muslims were bad people?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:15 PM

    who says its you?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:29 PM

    Here we go again with the same apologists sticking their heads in the sand, unable to recognise that Islam is causing more horror among its believers and to others around the world.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 7:55 PM

    Tourettes Tariq should be along shortly to offer moral support to Prouesse the fucķtard

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:07 PM

    It’s a French thing. I said that the problem with Arabs in France is the fault of Sarkozy and she implied that by saying the word Arab I ment all muslims were bad. Typical French thing to do. She used a snippet of the point I was making which got a lot of thumbs up. And used it against me. Using it to mean something opposite of what I ment. I know she is French too. I looked at her profile

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:22 PM

    Brain Damage is a little angry animal that keeps on pushing little grunts.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:24 PM

    @ al .ca You seem to have a very selective way of looking at things. Read the previous comments, and the non-sense you can find actually contains some variations.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:26 PM

    2017. Pour Hollande? Macron? Sarkozy? Ou le Penn? Given your comments I’d say your a supporter of the latter!

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:37 PM

    Oliver, it’s not solely a French thing. It’s a standard response across Europe to those who point out integration problems. They deliberately misrepresent what you said and assume things you haven’t said or implied. It’s also used by the Islamist propagandists and those are what you’re dealing with here. Judge for yourself but I’d advise against treating them as if they were genuine.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:42 PM

    Yes but the French are notorious for doing it constantly

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    Sep 11th 2016, 8:54 PM

    I believe you. That would explain a lot about the state of the country. What’s the cause do you think?

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:02 PM

    Angry animal? You must have me confused with your child rapist prophet, fůcktard

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:18 PM

    Brain damage, you may call yourself anything you want.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:21 PM

    Oliver I doubt a FN voter would follow the FOG. Look at my profile again… “the French” do this and that. .. just speak for yourself for a start.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:24 PM

    @Marlow “they deliberately misrepresent what you said”… then you add “it’s also used by Islamists propagandists and those are what you’re dealing with here”. Great demonstration of contradicting what you say by your own actions.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:25 PM

    Fdg* not the FOG …

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:30 PM

    Le Penn is compleatly against any kind of immigration to France. Same as her father was. Forgive me for making a judgement based on your comments. Le Penn wasn’t against the German occupation of France and beleaved in the one race policy his daughter marine is preaching today. The current problems regarding the anti Muslim views in France stem from the 13th November attacks. Which were committed by Belgian born jihadists! So that puts the current views of racists in France to bed

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    Sep 11th 2016, 9:40 PM

    Le pen I should say

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:21 PM

    I see what you mean. The attacks in Charlie hebdo and the Hyper Casher obviously traumatised people. Some actually argue the problem regarding terrorism in France v started way before. Don’t forget what happened in 1995. This started vigipirate.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:27 PM

    Your verbal diahorrea is getting worse, fůcktard.

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    Sep 11th 2016, 10:52 PM

    I’m not forgetting 95 or af 8969! Af 8969 was hijacked because France imprisoned algierian government opponents during the civil war in 1994

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    Sep 11th 2016, 11:40 PM

    These communities refused to integrate with the outside world

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    Sep 11th 2016, 11:44 PM

    I’m not saying that. The Charlie hebdo attacks were terrible yes. But it that could have been avoided and so could the hyper cashier if the police had acted on the radicalization of coulibaly.

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    Sep 12th 2016, 3:21 AM

    @Dain….thats exactly what it is, incoherent rubbish. That vile thing never makes any sense

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    Sep 12th 2016, 8:18 AM

    @mistart and brain damage you surely fit together.

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    Sep 12th 2016, 8:25 AM

    @oliver
    The problem with the attack on Charlie Hebdo is that Charlie Hebdo had received several threats. That wasn’t the case for the Hyper Casher. So saying the police could have done this and that, might be valid in the case of Charlie Hebdo only.

    And no, “these communities” did not refuse to integrate at all! They had to fight to get some attention and a few infrastructures. But it’s not over yet. For example, it could be nice to see experienced teachers in schools in difficult areas instead of sending those who just finished their training. “Those communities” don’t decide which teachers they can find in schools. Get it?

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    Sep 12th 2016, 11:27 AM

    Look I’m from Bordeaux. I have a friend of mine who is a secondary school teacher in Marseille. In one of those schools. She got punched in the face by a group of Moroccan thugs from one of the cites. Luckily the police did something as the attack was caught on cctv .and your saying they want to integrate? I’m not saying that the hyper casher had got threats. The radicalization of coulibaly should have been flagged by the police when he left prison. And plus 2 hours after the bataclan attack abdelsalam got passed a police checkpoint in northern France on his way back to Belgium!

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