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Opinion 'Rape culture does exist... I've witnessed it myself in Cork'

Journalist Jennifer Hough encountered two disturbing incidents on the city’s streets within weeks of each other.

LAST SATURDAY NIGHT, Cork city was heaving to the sound of jazz and blues emanating from its every pore.

The drink was flowing and everyone was in great form. Walking home, the carnage seemed a bit more intense than usual – but it was the Jazz weekend, a bank holiday, what else would you expect?

Still, I was surprised – walking down a certain side street in Cork – to see a young woman running hell-for-leather barefoot down the street.

She was clearly upset; I could hear her crying loudly and I pointed her out to my other half saying, ‘What is it with this laneway?’

Because it was on the same street a few weeks previously that we had encountered another disturbing situation involving a young woman in a vulnerable state.

Again, we were walking home at about 2am along said side street, not a dark street and one that is well populated at that hour with the clubs and pubs spilling out onto it.

As we passed a couple kissing on the other side of the road, I heard the woman saying repeatedly to the guy, ‘Stop, get off me.’

As we got closer, I could see she was trying to push the guy, who wasn’t listening to her, away.

People were walking by, but no one was doing anything. I stopped and shouted over to her: “Are you OK?”

She clearly wasn’t and so we went over to her, and helped entangle her from the guy who was aggressively trying to pin her against the wall.

The woman, probably in her early-to-mid 20s, asked if she could walk with us. As it happened, she was staying in a hotel right beside our apartment. As we walked, she told us that she had met the guy in a club and they had started kissing. She thought it was just a bit of fun. He was clearly expecting more from their encounter, hence what we witnessed on the street.

This woman not very drunk but she was quite shaken. When we finally got to her hotel, she hugged me tightly and thanked us profusely for stepping in.

Fast forward to last Saturday night and the barefoot girl we witnessed running down the street.

As we neared home, I saw two guys pulling a girl down from the wall that separates the footpath from the River Lee. I recognised her as the barefoot girl. Her stilettos and a tiny handbag were thrown on the street, and she was trying to throw herself into the river.

Long story short, despite her best efforts to jump that wall, we made it clear it wasn’t going to happen.

The two young guys left and like the previous encounter, my other half and I said we’d walk the girl home. Again she was in her early 20s.

She was extremely upset, crying, cursing, lashing out, saying repeatedly, ‘No one believes me, no one believes me.’ I told her I believed her, to which her response was, ‘You don’t even know me, how could you believe me?’

I won’t go into her story too much, but in short, she said she’d been raped a few months previously. Not a clear-cut situation by any stretch but it was how she felt afterwards.

That night, she’d told someone important to her, but that person did not believe her.

She explained a situation that some people might view as rape, while others might not.

Like so many cases these days, hers is not one that can ever be proved one way or the other.

And therein lies the difficulty for young women trying to verbalise and understand something they don’t even really understand themselves.

The problem is that rape today does not fit what we normally think of when we think about a sexual assault. It’s not a stranger pulling a girl down an alleyway, it’s not someone sneaking into a room at night. Instead it’s often young guys acting aggressively to get what they think is coming to them. When a girl says no, it doesn’t fit with the expectation that society has created for them.

This generation of young people are used to getting what they want when they want. And sex is no different. Guys can access porn in an instant. Everyone can access a hook up through the flick of a wrist on a mobile app.

Young girls are out putting themselves out there like never before. Looking as good as your idols and living up to cultural expectations means wearing fake tan, fake lashes, fake eyebrows. It means taking selfies and belfies and putting yourself out there on social media in provocative ways.

Add drink and young horny guys into this mix and you’ve got a recipe for modern day rape - situations where saying no does not register, and where feeling violated after a drunken encounter is now a normal part of life.

These might not be considered classic rape cases, but they are classic rape culture cases and the line between yes and no is increasingly blurred not just alcohol, but by immense societal pressure.

Young people today are coming of age in a hyper-sexualised culture that normalises extreme behaviour, makes everyone look sexy and offers instant gratification. How can a girl cry ‘rape’ or ‘stop’ when she’s grown up to be a part of that liberal exhibitionism herself? If she does cry rape, how will anyone believe her when they see her sexy social media profile pictures, and hear that she shared nude pictures with guys?

Not being believed, as I witnessed last weekend, is final insult in situations like this. Of course neither is this generation unique.

Rape and consent are not new issues. Women in Ireland and all around the world have been raped and assaulted behind closed doors since time began.

The difference today is that it’s right front of us. It’s on our streets, it’s on our computer screens, in our hands. It’s visible and it’s pervasive – I’d wager that there are many girls like the two I encountered out and about on our streets on any given night.

This means it’s incumbent on us all to help stamp it out. Whether that’s intervening if you see a dubious situation on the street at night, whether it’s teaching your kids – male and female – about consent and respect, or whether it’s just telling someone you believe them, we all have a part to play.

So, to that girl on Saturday night, I might not know you, but I heard your story, I saw your distress and I believe you.

Jennifer Hough is a Cork-based journalist with a special interest in social affairs. You can find her on Twitter @JenniferHRos

More: ‘We need to teach women in Ireland how to say yes to sex’

Read: ‘Having sex is a fabulous thing, but in the right environment, with the right person’ 

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    Mute Rui Firmino
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:04 AM

    Everything can be a UFO if you’re bad enough at identifying things

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:13 AM

    What do you mean by ‘believe’? It is a fact that some objects are unidentified. Does this mean that they are aliens? No. Does it mean they are UFO’s? Yes.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:46 AM

    @Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin: It depends on what you mean by ‘mean’, doesn’t it?

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:04 PM

    @Ajax Penumbra: and that depends on your meaning of the meaning of what mean actually means…..:)

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:04 AM

    UFO. Unidentified Flying Object. Something in the sky and you don’t know what it is. Yep, I believe. But I do NOT believe in little green men.

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    Mute John Sheahan
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:46 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Exactly. They’re not green, they’re grey.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:20 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: purple men? have you not seen thanos in avengers??

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:28 PM

    @LFC_MAD94: the purple ones were all eaten

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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:00 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: so do you believe there is no other intelligent life, Aliens, in the entire universe?

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Aug 6th 2022, 3:38 PM

    @Damien Leen: There may well be none close enough in space and time for us to meet them. The average life of a species is in the region of a million years, the universe is around fourteen thousand times that old and it is very big.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Aug 6th 2022, 5:46 PM

    @Damien Leen: None within communication distance with us, anyway! The nearest major galaxy to us is Andromeda. 2.5 million light years away. Send a radio message and IF anybody is listening and IF they understand and IF they choose to reply you might get an answer in 5 million years.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:05 AM

    Call me mad, and I’m sure most will, but I do, the universe is to big, maybe we haven’t been visited ( I think we have ) but surely it’s an open your mind type thing ?

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    Mute Eoin Roche
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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:18 PM

    @Bopper Bops Holland: Thats not mad, its entirely logical. Of course there is intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe, its a mathematical certainty. Whether any of that intelligence has managed to overcome what we humans understand as the limitations of the laws of physics (vast distance, speed of light, relativity, life span) and travel successfully between star systems, is another matter entirely.

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    Mute Michael Dowling
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    Aug 6th 2022, 4:24 PM

    @Eoin Roche: as someone once said. Yes there are intelligence in the Universe, the question is would humans be counted among them! Jim Carey I think.

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    Mute Irish Antichrist
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:04 AM

    Its not a question of beliefe. A UFO is a term for something unknown. Aliens on the other hand 100% yes bit intelligent aliens not so much. Intelligence on a galactic understanding level on our planet is extremely rare and that includes humans.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:56 AM

    I’d say there’s definitely other life forms considering the size of the universe. But they don’t visit us, since the place is such a kip now.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:03 AM

    UFOs yes. Aliens not so much……

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:05 AM

    @antisocialbarber: exactly kinda silly question… no doubt there is alien life too another question is why they would have any interest in coming here…. given that the universo is so vast

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:28 AM

    @yoloboyz: In the infinite number of chemical permutations on an equally infinite number of planets and an infinite number of right places right time situations and so on. There has to be “life” somewhere out there. Possibly not carbon based. To misquote Mr Spock “It’s life Jim, but not as we know it”.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:14 PM

    @antisocialbarber: I’m the opposite, yes aliens exist. They have to, the universe is too big for there not to be other forms of life out there but have they visited us in flying hub caps? No

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:36 PM

    @yoloboyz: The universe is vast in both space and time it is possible for there to be a great deal of intelligent life in the universe without any two species ever being able to reach or even detect each other while both are still alive.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:10 PM

    @Steve O’Hara-Smith: Yeah, definitely the most logical way of looking at it. The scales involved are un fathomable. The chances of an encounter are slimmer than slim

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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:20 PM

    @Neil Reilly: Yeah… I like the idea of “Aliens” ( not the Sigourney Weaver variety) in general but vastness of space and our level of detection and technology, as impressive as it is, is still a couple of development/technology revolutions into the future away.

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    Mute Brian Murphy
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:43 AM

    There seems to be a serious decline in ufo’s n ghosts since everyone has a quality camera in their pocket nowadays……..

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    Mute Alan Biddulph
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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:40 PM

    @Brian Murphy: Take a picture of a passing airplane with your smart phone, just a blur.

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    Mute Shane Carroll
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:04 PM

    @Brian Murphy: There’s a massive increase actually. Type ufo into youtube and you’ll see thousands of videos from all over the world. US military pilots are now being encouraged to report UFO encounters. That’s a big change in attitude. We are at the beginning of a change in attitude on the topic of UFOs as a whole. A lot of media coverage lately is not writing it off as a joke like it always has. Interesting times.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:12 AM

    So aliens are going to travel billions of miles only to fly around in the sky and then disappear? Think about it

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:49 AM

    @Irish Opinion: It’s their version of taking a Sunday drive. To a Type 3 civilisation, billions of miles is nothing.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:05 PM

    @Irish Opinion: Well, Pluto is billions of miles away so when you think about it on that scale, that’s not really far at all.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:03 PM

    @Irish Opinion: to explore and observe…we do the same here…drones etc on Mars…you think we’re the only ones in the universe who would be curious and have the technology to achieve this…think about it

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Aug 6th 2022, 4:37 PM

    @Damien Leen: How much of the universe do you think we will ever explore in person? There are between one and four hundred billion stars in this galaxy alone and there are a similar number of galaxies in the observable universe.
    We’ll be lucky to explore a millionth of our own galaxy before we go extinct, if we’re amazingly lucky we might manage a thousandth of it.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:44 AM

    Another movie on the Ufo topic that is based on an event that happened in Brazil in 1996 will be out in October. Trailer here.
    https://youtu.be/pE7hVSlk7Zw

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:15 AM

    Really looking forward to Nope

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:12 AM

    How can anyone be sure either way?

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:34 AM

    Only when I don’t have my glasses on.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 2:23 PM

    The aliens are already among us. They have taken on a human likeness to blend in but the orange skin tone is a pure giveaway.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:06 AM

    I absolutely do,you have to see one or two strange things in the night sky to believe.

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:44 PM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: Believe what? Alien visitors or that there are things that you don’t understand and probably never wlll because the facts are unavailable. Me I strongly believe the latter and would want firm evidence for the former.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:59 AM

    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

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    Mute Gavin Courtney
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:09 AM

    Yes…and the earth is flat too !!

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:06 PM

    @Gavin Courtney: In parts yes, true!

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:58 AM

    If I see a leprechaun with a crock of gold at the end of a rainbow, I’ll only believe it if I can handle the contents of the crock.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:19 PM

    Yes I think the taboo of believing in UAP’s is in the past, https://youtu.be/JE_ujhcxwHY .. a video from a series of recent uploads from this channel, all historical accounts of encounters. Some very compelling/interesting

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    Mute Gearóid MacEachaidh
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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:26 PM

    Silly poll. UFOs exist whether we believe in them or not. The question should be do we believe they are extraterrestrial.

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    Mute Sean D
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    Aug 6th 2022, 1:54 PM

    Seeing the comments, I think the spirit of the question has been lost. For this purpose I think they’re asking aliens, not some airplane with its transponder off

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Aug 6th 2022, 3:26 PM

    @Sean D: Folks are answering the question asked, perhaps they meant to ask “Do you believe UFOs are alien visitors” but they didn’t.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:34 AM

    Well the aliens are here already and remember this is we’re we came from as humans the move from having a brain that is slow to what we are can not be explained except we are from another planet

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    Mute Brian Murphy
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:42 AM

    @Anthony Ross: alien identified

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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:26 PM

    I want to believe.
    The truth is out there.

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    Aug 6th 2022, 3:34 PM

    Technically speaking, a weather balloon or a satellite is an unidentified object if it has not been identified by air traffic control, NASA or the met office. Do I believe that aliens from another galaxy or dimension are visiting Earth? It is possible. Are they friendly? Don’t know

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    Mute Karel Pumpernikel
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    Aug 6th 2022, 12:58 PM

    I like saying from Jupiter ascending: you humans are so arrogant, you don’t even have a numbers to describe vastness of universe yet you think that you are only intelligent been’s in it

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Aug 6th 2022, 4:53 PM

    Let’s put some salt on this tail.
    There are one to four hundred billion stars in this galaxy.
    There are about that many galaxies in the universe too. Just remember them for now.
    A big SF interstellar empire might be a million stars, just imagine the tiered government needed. There’s room in this galaxy alone for a hundred thousand at once of them without any overlap.
    The universe is estimated to be around fourteen billion years old. Species lifetimes are around a million years. If we give an interstellar empire a ten million year life then there’s been time for fourteen hundred of them make it a thousand because the early universe wasn’t so much fun.
    So that means our galaxy has had time and space to house one hundred million vast interstellar empires without any of them ever meeting..

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    Aug 6th 2022, 3:48 PM

    The question is nonsense. Of course there are objects that fly that people can’t identify. There are lots of them. Some of them are later identified, but many haven’t yet been. Do you mean do we believe they are extraterrestrial in origin? Do you mean we have another specific belief about them? Please clarify?

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    Aug 6th 2022, 4:16 PM

    I’ve followed this subject since covid came. Watched a lot of documentary’s and podcasts. Subject is full of liars, bullshxt and dodgy cgi videos. Even the best examples are only hear say, some have many witnesses but still only hear say. The best doc I’ve ever seen is the phenomenon bye james fox, hes made a few descent docs. Also ross coulthart has been on a podcast called ‘in plain sight’. In two years i e got one good podcast and one good movie. The rest is b.s :-)

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    Mute Jason Walsh
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    Aug 6th 2022, 5:19 PM

    Yes, but they are from this planet and not extraterrestrial.

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    Mute Michael Powell
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    Aug 6th 2022, 11:20 PM

    Define UFO

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    Mute The world outside the M50
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    Aug 7th 2022, 12:40 AM

    @Michael Powell: Unidentified Flying Object – there are also USO’s – Unidentified Submersible Objects.

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    Aug 7th 2022, 9:49 AM

    @The world outside the M50: and UAP’s..
    Unidentified Areil Phenomenon

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    Aug 7th 2022, 12:40 AM

    There are no Aliens – however there are many interdimensional beings

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