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Boris Johnson holding a salmon during the EU referendum campaign PA Wire/PA Images

Boris Johnson's 'Prosecco' warning hasn't gone down too well in Europe

Italy responded by saying Britain risks losing out on fish and chips exports to 27 countries.

AN ITALIAN MINISTER has described British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson’s aim of retaining common market access while restricting immigration as “wishful thinking”.

While negotiations are officially forbidden by the EU until Britain triggers Article 50 to exit the bloc, the opening shots in the looming trade discussions have already been fired.

Recalling a recent meeting with Johnson, Italy’s economic development minister Carlo Calenda said the UK’s foreign minister claimed Italy would support Britain’s access to the single market.

“His answer was: ‘OK, but you are selling a lot of what we call Prosecco in the UK… and you will allow us to do this because you don’t want to lose Prosecco exports’,” Calenda told Bloomberg TV.

The Italian minister said he pointed out that while his country could lose Prosecco exports to one country, Britain risked losing out on “fish and chips” exports to the other 27 EU countries.

“He basically said, ‘I don’t want free movement of people but I want the single market’,” Calenda told Bloomberg.

I said, ‘no way.’ He said, ‘you’ll sell less Prosecco.’ I said, ‘OK, you’ll sell less fish and chips, but I’ll sell less Prosecco to one country and you’ll sell less to 27 countries.’ Putting things on this level is a bit insulting.

“My perception is that there is a lot of confusion… which to be honest is not acceptable,” Calenda added. ”Now what we need is to define the framework of the negotiation.”

He also described the British Government’s strategy as chaotic, and said the rest of the continent is being held hostage by Tory Party in-fighting. Calenda is a former Italian envoy to the EU.

Last June, Britain voted to leave the European Union in a referendum, and prime minister Theresa May has said she will trigger Article 50 – the formal procedure for departure – by the end of March 2017 at the latest.

Greece Gas Pipeline Turkish Minister of Energy Berat Albayrak, left, with Italian Minister of Economic Development Carlo Calenda back in May. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

Movement of people

One of the key factors behind the Brexit vote was the influx of hundreds of thousands of citizens of other EU states into Britain every year to find work.

May has said she wants to cut these numbers while retaining “maximum” access to the EU single market for British firms.

EU leaders have ruled this out, saying Britain would have to accept free movement of people.

A survey by NatCen Social Research published yesterday found Britons overwhelmingly want to maintain free trade with the European Union after Brexit while controlling EU immigration.

Some 90% of respondents said they wanted EU and British companies to continue to be able to trade freely.

But 70% said they wanted limits on the number of EU citizens allowed to live and work in Britain, and a similar number wanted the reintroduction of customs checks on goods entering the country from the EU.

“The kind of deal that is most likely to prove electorally popular is one that maintains free trade but permits at least some limits on EU migration,” said Professor John Curtice, senior research fellow at NatCen and a respected polling expert.

The survey of 1,391 people was conducted online and on the phone between September 22 and October 24.

Luxembourg EU Finance Jeroen Dijsselbloem, Dutch finance minister and chair of the Eurogroup of finance ministers. Geert Vanden Wijngaert Geert Vanden Wijngaert

Impossible

Yet Eurogroup chief Jeroen Dijsselbloem has dismissed as “intellectually impossible” the notion that Britain could retain unfettered access to the European single market while also cutting down on EU immigration.

Dijsselbloem has also warned that negotiations for Britain’s departure from the EU would take “a lot longer than two years” – the estimated timetable written into the EU treaties.

Dijsselbloem spoke after an interview by Johnson with Czech daily Hospodarske Noviny in which the British foreign minister reportedly said Britain would “probably” have to leave the European customs union but still have “free trade” with EU states.

“He’s saying things that are intellectually impossible, politically unavailable,” Dijsselbloem, who is the Dutch finance minister and head of the eurozone finance ministers group, told the BBC.

Speaking to CNBC on the sidelines of a conference hosted by UBS bank in London, the minister said: “I don’t think he is being realistic and fair to the British electorate on what’s possible.”

At the conference, his spokesman said he told delegates: “Negotiations are hugely complex… They are going to take a lot longer than two years”.

Belgium EU Summit Theresa May with Taoiseach Enda Kenny in October. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

May addressed the British parliament in defensive mode yesterday, following a leaked report from a consultancy saying the government had no overall plan for Brexit.

“Yes we do have a plan,” she told MPs, but then refused to reveal what it was in any detail, saying this would undermine Britain’s negotiating position.

At the banking conference, Dijsselbloem said Brexit was a “lose-lose situation” for Britain and the EU.

He also said that the British and EU economies would both be in “a worse situation” after Brexit.

AFP, with reporting from Darragh Peter Murphy.

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    Mute eastsmer #IRExit
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:47 PM

    The whole ‘parliament’ thing needs to be examined – It is not democracy to go to the pub then pass legislation that affects the whole population and then not listening to the opposition or not allowing them to talk.

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    Mute Jed I. Knight
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:29 PM

    @eastsmer #IRExit: It’s one this to describe the forum examining Dáil privilege as an “expert one”, but exactly how does Mary Hanafin and Conor Brady qualify as legal or constitutional experts?
    As far as I can see the only thing they both have in common is an innate ability to look after their own interests and Hanafin ‘obtained’ a diploma in legal studies from DIT. Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence, another outcome written before the forum meets.

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    Mute David Huston
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    Jul 21st 2017, 9:05 PM

    @eastsmer #IRExit: We are governed by a sound bite government of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, the fact their intellects are eclipsed by their egos is becoming more apparent each passing day.

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    Mute Emmet Dillane
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:50 PM

    @The Risen:
    They couldn’t nail him in court now they’re trying to silence him in the Dail.
    Paul Murphy’s influence grows stronger by the week.
    The rightful heir to Joe Higgins throne.

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 22nd 2017, 12:03 AM

    Comic Gold.

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    Mute Emmet Dillane
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:56 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie:
    The 2% who brought the government to its knees over Irish Water and have instilled such fear and trepidation in Fine Tory that other much touted financial impositions such as a Broadcasting Charge and and privatised waste management proposals have been hastily shelved.
    The current establishment are the enemy of the people and Paul Murphy is our champion.

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    Mute Thomas O' Donnell
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    Jul 21st 2017, 11:03 PM

    @Emmet Dillane: 2%? That from a polling company, is it?

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    Mute Simeon
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:40 PM

    In a recent case taken by a certain Denis O’Brien, the Supreme Court ruled that Dail privilege is an absolute right defined as such in the Constitution. So the C.C. has no right to curtail it. The people alone have the right to censure a TD by declining to re-elect him. In a country where there have been too many secrets for too many decades we should value Dail privilege highly now that we are finally electing some TDs with the courage to use it.

    There is no basis for using the Dail’s rules to science an individual member. The TDs do not answer to each other. They answer to us.

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    Mute Jimmy McCarthy
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:46 PM

    As the issue is covered by the constitution then I would have thought that the Supreme Court is the only forum which has the authority to definitively decide such matters.

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    Mute The Risen
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:52 PM

    @Jimmy McCarthy: There might well be actions taken by the committee which are then challenged in court.

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    Mute Stephen murphy
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:03 PM

    Did the Gardai, commit perjury and why doesn’t the AG bring charges for it?

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:26 PM

    No.

    Beachside, no.

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    Mute Martin Critten
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:28 PM

    @Stephen murphy: it appears there’s no offence of perjury in Ireland on the statute books ; though perverting the course of justice does exist.

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    Mute Ian Walsh
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:07 PM

    The establishment cannot contain themselves. We need to overthrow the government.

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    Mute John Scott
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:51 PM

    Is that Mary who the people of Dunlaoighre said no thanks. If it is it really does show no difference between the two government party’s . F/F F/G. Are they getting payed?

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    Mute Maurice Heaphy
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:01 PM

    Why now does the Ceann Comhairle need to examine when Dail Privilege is exceeded! He is the Ceann Comhairle, and as so, should Know when, or not it’s breached! Why Now does he need an Expert Group to examine this! He either knows his Job, or he doesn’t. Which is it?

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    Mute Bryan Kelly
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:55 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: Put back in their boxes? Not a fan of free and open democracy then are you ye blueshirt bootlick?

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    Mute Tweed Cap
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:53 PM

    You have to laugh at this meaningless bullsh!t. What did we ever do in days before:

    Tribunals
    Hearings
    Reports
    Commissions
    Inquiries
    Probes
    investigations
    Special task forces
    Citizens assemblies

    And now Expert forums…..

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    Mute Rondon
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:51 PM

    “Summer recess” youd be amazed what all that free time does to the mind in The Dail Bar. Just wait for the Tin Foil Hat Treaty

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    Mute Paul Coughlan
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:56 PM

    What a waste of time and money. Murphy was not convicted of anything yet our Taoiseach accused him of being a thug. Then the Taoiseach should be reprimanded and told to Mind his rhetoric in future.

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:40 PM

    @Paul Coughlan: Thuggery is not a criminal offence.

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    Mute Suzie Sunshine
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    Jul 21st 2017, 9:25 PM

    @Paul Coughlan: he didn’t accuse him of being a thug . He said that there was a lot of thuggery going on that day . There’s a difference. ..

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    Mute Anthony Gallagher
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:27 PM

    EXpert FORUM ,can we be tolled what exactly these guys are expert in ,maybe gombeenism .

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    Mute Hurt Stoogie
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:51 PM

    @The Risen: Murphy and Mary Lou, who lied in the Dáil, need to be put back in their boxes.

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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:14 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: Just to clarify, before I report your comment, was it directed at me?

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    Mute james connolly
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    Jul 21st 2017, 10:56 PM

    @The Risen: you ok hun? PMSL

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 22nd 2017, 12:05 AM

    @james connolly: Someone must have reported all Risen/Jammin’s defamatory comments…

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    Mute feargal de cantuin
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    Jul 21st 2017, 9:00 PM

    The words kangaroo and court and exceeding your authority spring to mind.

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    Mute Willy Malone
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:09 PM

    Expert forum to shut up those whom go against the status quo… FG FF LIEBOUR hate the likes of P Murphy. His stature is growing and they need him nullified. Courts couldn’t so Dail will try.. Fools adding to his rise ..

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:27 PM

    Lols

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    Mute Hurt Stoogie
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:51 PM

    @Emmet Dillane: yes, the 2% popular party..

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:43 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: It’s name calling but never mind I understand your connection with reality is fairly tentative.

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    Mute Hurt Stoogie
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:20 PM

    @The Risen: poor snowflake.. what comment? That Mary Lou lied in the Dáil or that Pbp are on 2%? Are you jamming?

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:40 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: It’s ironic that you resort to name calling given your comment about the “brainless left”

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    Mute The Risen
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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:23 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: Thought so. All mouth, no pantaloons.

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    Mute james connolly
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    Jul 21st 2017, 10:58 PM

    @The Risen: watching that runt murphy being put in him box by Leo was one of the truly epic Dail moments.

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    Jul 22nd 2017, 12:36 AM

    @james connolly: it was a great moment …

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:37 PM

    @The Risen: Is “the Risen” your real name shinnerbot?

    Solicitors for the Gardaí will like to know when they’re suing you for defamation…

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    Mute Honeybadger197
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:39 PM

    @The Risen: At least he made it to Barcelona to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution. Fond memories include: 15 million dead in the ensuing chaos, dictatorship of the proletariat, Lenin, Stalin. Good times.

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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:41 PM

    @Emmet Dillane: Paul Murphy is no Joe Higgins

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    Mute Hurt Stoogie
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:57 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: telling lies us free and open is it? Calling names is the resort of the brainless left…

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:44 PM

    @Diarmuid: But Diarmuid I suspect they can spell better then you can. Maybe we should stop educating these wild left wingers?

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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:53 PM

    @ Butt hurt
    Probably time that you considered reinventing yourself again stoogie

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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:26 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: Poor Risen/Were Jammin/For Connolly is pure jealy he’s not one of the Jobstown Martyrs.

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    Mute james connolly
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    Jul 21st 2017, 10:59 PM

    @Diarmuid: the poor snowflake is rather upset that everyone see murphy for the thug that he is

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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:27 PM

    @The Risen: thought what? I notice you don’t engage in discussion re points made about dear deputy leaders lie in the Dáil… all mouth, no actual balls.

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    Mute Seriously
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    Jul 21st 2017, 6:56 PM

    Expert Forum needed to establish how those idiots got in the Dail, don’t mind worrying about privileges.

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    Jul 21st 2017, 7:43 PM

    @Kerry Blake: it’s not name calling, it’s stating facts.

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    Jul 21st 2017, 8:36 PM

    @high ho silver: and that gives Murphy the right to break the Dail rules?

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    Jul 21st 2017, 11:09 PM

    One embarrassment after another…

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    Jul 21st 2017, 10:47 PM

    What a load of loaded nonsense

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    Mute Dion Tallant
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    Jul 22nd 2017, 12:30 PM

    One woman in a 4 person panel. It would have been nice to see gender balance.

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