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Children in care 'How many Government ministers would throw their children out at 18?'

Enforced independence at 18 can be premature and disastrous for vulnerable young people in care, writes Robbie Gilligan.

EVERY NIGHT, OVER 6,000 children and young people go to sleep in a bed away from their family home. They are not on a short visit to relatives or friends. These are children in the care of the Irish state.

They are living apart from their families because the courts have decided that the child should live apart from the parents for reasons of safety and well-being. Or sometimes parents have consented to their children living apart from them in state care for health or other special reasons.

We have high quality children’s services

The public image of the Irish care system has been blighted by relentless accounts of abuse in previous decades. But in fact one of the success stories in our children’s services is how the quality of care has been turned around. There are still challenges, not everything is perfect, but there have been big improvements.

Ireland is now a world leader in the use of family placement. Quietly and unsung, social workers have steadily built up an army of foster carers. In recent years these have been joined by many relatives who are formally recognised as relative carers.

Together these foster carers and relative carers provide family living for 95% of children in the Irish children in care system, one of the highest such rates in the world.

These families care for these young people until they can go home, or until they are 18. But what happens at 18? That is a big question across every country. How well are young people supported when they reach the official care leaving age? Here in Ireland we are falling way behind best international practice and the gap looks like it will get wider.

International practices

International research has shown that sending 18-year-olds from care out into the world on their own is a recipe for failure. It puts young lives at risk in so many ways, and also jeopardises the investment of effort in getting the young person to that stage.

Various approaches to offering support have been tried internationally. It is widely agreed that the most promising is offering young people the option to stay on in care until 21 or later. This actually mirrors more closely what happens in real life. Most Irish families don’t turf their young people out on the street at 18.

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Many governments have signed up to this new approach. Twenty two states in the US – including California – have signed up. Scotland was the first in Europe. Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister in Scotland, has consistently shown a strong commitment to the needs and interests of young people in care.

In England, a Tory Minister for Children, Edward Timpson, who grew up in a family that fostered has extended care to 21 for those in foster care. He caused howls of protest from those concerned about young people in residential care centres who, at least for now, are left out of the loop.

Wales has also gone down the same road. New Zealand is engaged in reform of its support to young people in care. From 2018 they will have the option of remaining in care until 21, instead of having to leave at the current age of 17.

What’s happening in Ireland?

The government has passed (but not yet implemented) a new law [part of the Child Care (Amendment Act 2015] which says that every child in care close to age 18 must have an aftercare plan. While of some value, this reform is very timid, and falls way short of what is happening in similar jurisdictions.

What message does this send to our young people in care? The state has stepped into their lives saying it can do a better job than their parents. Yet as things stands it gives no guarantees of support to young people in care beyond 18. Some may be lucky and get a good deal, but there is the rub. Young people in care face a virtual lottery at age 18 in terms of the level of support they will receive (or not).

The new legislation gives no guarantees on the actual support any young person previously in care will receive. But what kind of parent makes no definite commitment to their children beyond 18 years? What kind of parent would cast a child of theirs adrift at 18 into a future of uncertainty? How many of the ministers in the current government would contemplate casting their own children adrift at 18? And it hardly needs to be said that the offspring of government ministers have a lot more going for them than have most young people in care.

Children in care are children of the Irish state in a very special way. They deserve better.

Robbie Gilligan is Professor of Social Work and Social Policy at Trinity College Dublin.

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    Mute James
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:55 PM

    Warehouse in Ireland please. Having to wait for parcels to ship from UK is not good enough.

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    Mute Mike
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    Dec 1st 2014, 1:48 PM

    Amazons high tech jobs are based in Dublin. The companies warehouses are based in Britain. It’s cheaper than Ireland.

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    Mute See My Vest
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    Dec 1st 2014, 2:14 PM

    Yeah that 1 day prime service is shocking! If I order something now I won’t have it until tomorrow ffs!

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    Mute Paddy Hannigan
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    Dec 1st 2014, 2:54 PM

    Amazon consider Ireland as part of the UK geographicaly for business reasons while for delivery reasons they consider NI and The Republic to be the same.I worked there and it used to provide endless hours of fun trying to explain the situation to idiot ‘nationalists and unionists’ who would take offence to this.Then added to that for tax they are registered in Lux.Most likely they will open a hub here at some point but most items will still have to come from the UK. There just isn’t the population here to justify a warehouse system big enough to hold 17m items.

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    Mute Leslie Skinner
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    Dec 1st 2014, 11:55 AM

    More people out of a job

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    Mute Leopold Dedalus
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:02 PM

    “hiring 80,000 seasonal workers to meet the coming onslaught of holiday orders.”

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:03 PM

    are they? some might be out of a job running around the floor picking items. but someone has to look after the robots, repair them and even build them so jobs are created as well.

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    Mute deerhounddog
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:12 PM

    Simon,that’s a very short term view.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:13 PM

    how so. remember back in the 80′s when computers were being brought into the office and work place and we were all supposed to be out of jobs?

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    Mute deerhounddog
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:33 PM

    Simon, they are doing a physical job that only people could do. You can be very sure that any of these working in these huge spaces will have a very long lifespan unlike anything that will be for sale in the future in PC World etc for the home.

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    Mute Jason
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:39 PM

    Did you actually read the article?

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:43 PM

    ” They are doing a physical job that only people could do” — bit of a contradiction there

    I work in this area (electrical / mechanical IT support) if they have 3000 robots then they need a good load of people to back them up. I would very much doubt that 3000 people were let go to be replaced by 3000 machines.
    Machines that run for 24 hours a day need weekly / monthly PM’s. Software upgrades, cleaning and replacing. so while they have a long life span they are continually being looked after unlike your house hold appliances that only get service when they break down,
    Support jobs are also much better paid than picking jobs. And at the end of the day, shouldn’t we be using robots and machines to do the more mundane tasks and upgrading our human work force for the better.

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    Mute J
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:50 PM

    Simon the robots will become self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th and repair themselves. Only a matter of time.

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    Mute deerhounddog
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    Dec 1st 2014, 1:03 PM

    Jason,Simon. The PEOPLE that did this job last year are highly unlikely to be be servicing these robots. They have most likely been told that there is no work for them. Not everyone has the capacity to up skill. Amazon and those who follow them have not got the welfare of their seasonal workers in mind and are not trying impress ye, they have long term wage bill reductions driving this practice.

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    Mute Daragh O'Mahony
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    Dec 1st 2014, 1:19 PM

    Its called progress….

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    Mute ChocSaltyBallz
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    Dec 1st 2014, 9:44 PM

    Jesusdittyfcukinchrist they took are jobs !

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    Mute deerhounddog
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:10 PM

    To help the employees, who are they kidding. To CUT THE WAGE BILL.
    PR*cks

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    Dec 1st 2014, 1:00 PM

    Johnny 5

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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:07 PM

    Irish Water is currently drafting up an army of robots in the form of precision electronic meters to “help” distribute something which is of a basic right.

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    Mute Frank
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:23 PM

    Correction: “help” control something which is of a basic right.

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    Mute Jason
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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:40 PM

    Ffs, read this so as not to hear about IW, not everything should be brought back to water. Getting very boring now.

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    Mute Aidan Duggan
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    Dec 1st 2014, 11:59 AM

    My thoughts exactly.

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    Dec 1st 2014, 12:41 PM

    What are your thoughts, pray tell?

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    Mute justanothertaxpayer
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    Dec 1st 2014, 3:39 PM

    I am thinking he was just missing an ellipses…
    His thoughts are centred around precision.

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    Mute Steve M
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    Dec 1st 2014, 4:11 PM

    With everything getting automated and a growing world population, what happens when there aren’t enough jobs for everybody? A genuine question….maybe we will be starship troopers.

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