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The gap between private pensions and public pensions has the government worried

Enda Kenny said Minister Paschal Donohoe will not deal with its strategy for public pay until the Public Pay Commission sends its report.

THE GAP BETWEEN the value of private and public pensions is a concern for the government as it enters a new year.

In the midst of strike action in 2017, with Siptu announcing yesterday that it is to ballot some 25,000 health service staff, the government said the Public Pay Commission should be allowed to do its work – and that includes looking at a viable path forward in the cost of public sector pensions.

Retired public sector workers have generally seen an increase in their pension as the salary of the person in their old job increases. It’s understood the government believes that halting such a mechanism could save millions.

“In respect of public pay, the government has decided here that the Public Pay Commission has been asked to take into account the value of public pensions.

“Clearly, the gap between private pensions and public pensions has grown so the government are anxious that the Public Pay Commission will be allowed to do its work and report back to government in due course,” Kenny recently told reporters.

The Public Pay Commission will advise the government about pay for hundreds of thousands of public sector workers.

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The commission will provide an initial report some time between April and June of next year.

In a recent interview with The Sunday Business Post, Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe said the value of public sector pensions has increased and the differential versus private sector pensions has widened.

He said his department will be doing work on what the future cost will  be and how it will need to be met.

Despite the possible threat of further strike action in 2017 the Taoiseach said it would not be addressing issues of public pay until after the commission’s recommendations have been published in their report.

8/12/2016. Creative Minds Launch Minister for Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe with Taoiseach and Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny Sam Boal Sam Boal

“The minister [Paschal Donohoe] will not deal with its strategy for public pay until the Public Pay Commission sends its report.

“Obviously the government is fully supportive of Lansdowne Road and the structures are there to roll back FEMPI (Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest).”

In the past year, the government has had to deal with a number of industrial action threats – the most high-profile being the threat of garda strike action.

Following a Labour Court recommendation, which was accepted by government, the Justice Department will have to find €25 million from this year’s budget to pay for the half of the pay deal.

The other half will come from other departments, in what the government is dubbing a “burden sharing” approach.

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    Mute Larry Bird
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:20 PM

    I hate this “traditional” bullsh!t! it was traditional to kill someone who questioned religion 500 years ago. do we still do it? No, because it’s wrong plain and simple. the majority of humans are stupid and I don’t think in humane practises like these will ever end when there is such stupidity

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    Mute Pádraig O'hEidhin
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    Jan 20th 2014, 3:25 PM

    Sure they’re only dolphins.

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    Mute Colonel Randy H.Orny
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:06 PM

    That’s why Mother Nature hits them with tornadoes,earthquakes and other disasters.

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    Mute Homo Erectus
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:30 PM

    Every country resents being told by other countries that some traditional practice is unethical and should cease. The world is against dolphin fishing but the stubborn Japanese refuse to change, substitute “dolphin fishing” for “destruction of peatlands” and “japan” for “Ireland” and you’ll see that the mentality is similar here. Better the change to come from within than forced from the outside.

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    Mute Trisha Brennan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 6:04 PM

    The main difference is that peat is not herded into a tiny channel, held there for up to 48 hours, starved of food, harassed and scared and thrashing around. Peat does not die a slow agonizing death. Peat is not slaughtered while the rest of the pod watches. The only thing that is similar is that the end product is sold on.

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    Mute James Shanahan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 8:43 PM

    Ye sure what do they do like?? Shag all

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    Mute Keelan O'neill
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:31 PM

    And to think people wonder why Fungi hangs around Kerry

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    Mute Maurice Quille
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:44 PM

    It’s because we’re gentle humane folk. We rock :))

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:33 PM

    @Maurice, unfortunately I disagree with your comment, that we are gentle humane folk. Animal welfare in this country is so shocking that we should be ashamed.

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    Mute Tony Campbell
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:44 PM

    Get a grip will you! We don’t go killing dolphins now do we?

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:53 PM

    @ Tony Campbell, no thankfully we don’t. We just abandon thousands of dogs, cat and horses in this country, leaving them to starve to death or have much worse things done to them.

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    Mute Maurice Quille
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:56 PM

    Agreed Pauline in certain respects.
    Stricter controls needed in relation to the holding of equine bloodstock within geographical regions.
    Horses have no place in large towns or city regions.
    Registers exist for sexual and child offenders. Same should be said for animals.
    0 tolerance for abuse of herd and bloodstock & here the clinker, the statement that I’ll be red thumbed for:
    Tighter control in relation to dogs in built up areas.
    Uncontrolled roaming, excessive barking and non compliance of owners when asked to address an uncomforting situation.

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    Mute Maurice Quille
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:58 PM

    Should have gone to specsaversTony

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    Mute Tony Campbell
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:02 PM

    That makes no sense! You rant about horses and dogs on a story about dolphins?? I think you should of went to specsavers

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:05 PM

    @ I agree with all the points you made.

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    Mute byrondenis
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    Jan 21st 2014, 12:34 AM

    Animals stay around fellow animals

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    Mute Maurice Quille
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    Jan 21st 2014, 1:18 AM

    Tony, can you scroll up and read Paulines reply to my first comment in relation to how cruel us Irish can be to animals. My reply was justified. Whilst it has nothing to do with dolphins as you correctly pointed out it was a directional example of how even in this state we too have to evolve and learn to treat animals with better respect.

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    Mute Trisha Brennan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:31 PM

    At the moment, the murderers in Tajii are selecting up to 250 dolphins who will either be sold to Seaworld and their ilk, or who will be killed. Those who’ve already died through starvation and/or exhaustion are sadly, the lucky ones. They’ve trapped a rare albino dolphin calf, whose mother had already died. There is nothing ‘traditional’ about such barbarity. Japan should hang it’s head in shame.

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    Mute Joey Joe Joe
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:17 PM

    A time honoured revenge for what whales & dolphins did at Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

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    Mute Davin Lynch
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    Jan 20th 2014, 6:00 PM

    It was chicken and cow!

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    Mute Effa Aoife
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:51 PM

    “The fishermen in Taiji say the hunt is part of their village tradition and call foreign critics who eat other kinds of meat hypocritical.”

    What is tradition about hunting them in motorboats…..or leaving them trapped in the cove for 4 days without food while the young ones are captured to be sold to marine parks….Ive been watching the live stream for the last 3 days on and off. Its disgusting.

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    Mute Johnny Reynolds
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    Jan 20th 2014, 3:53 PM

    Got a link?

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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:38 PM
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:40 PM
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    Mute Effa Aoife
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    Jan 20th 2014, 6:45 PM

    http://livestream.seashepherd.org it starts around 10.30pm/11pm irish time

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    Mute Matthew Cummins
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    Jan 20th 2014, 11:34 PM

    It’s disgusting that waterparks around the globe now this.
    If it was tradition to hoarde stray ponies, dog’s and cats to a field then whack them to death……. Would it be Ok?

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    Mute Stephen Barry
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:41 PM

    Hairy Japanese b@stards.

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    Mute Tara Tevlin
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:18 PM

    Uncivilised lot have the planet ruined

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    Mute Séamus Mc Allister
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    Jan 20th 2014, 3:45 PM

    They know that basically the entire world is horrified by this and wants them to cease the practice, yet they remain steadfast in their intent to keep it up regardless. Stubborn bunch.

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    Mute Mark
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:45 PM

    Due to the high mercury content the meat isn’t even safe to eat

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    Mute Denis Riordan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:32 PM

    That’s disgusting, f€@king japs

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    Mute Maurice Quille
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:38 PM

    Time for another nuke

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    Mute A P Muldowney
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:18 PM

    Ha

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 3:12 PM

    I wouldn’t critize them for eating dolphin meat but I most defiantly critize them on the manner in which they are killed, it is horrific and inhumane.

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    Mute John Buckley
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    Jan 21st 2014, 2:22 AM

    True. Dolphin is very tasty, but needs to be caught and killed in a more humane way than that!

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    Mute Jenni Sheridan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 3:00 PM

    Filthy b@starts.

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    Mute kjholt
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:44 PM

    F#%k off back to China ya Japanese bol#%cks..

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    Jan 20th 2014, 2:27 PM

    Mmmmmm. Dolphin n chips n a can of coke.

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    Mute JB
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:36 PM

    I’d love to put a few holes in them boats

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    Mute Sarah Kellaghan
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:37 PM

    Oh it’s traditional is it, oh that’s fine so. Anything goes in the name of culture.

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    Mute Karen
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    Jan 20th 2014, 6:35 PM

    Hate saying it but any wonder why Japan gets hit with tidal waves and earthquakes natural disasters.

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    Mute stephen moore
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    Jan 20th 2014, 7:16 PM

    Well its definitely not cos they kill dolphins.

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    Mute Brendan Harlowe
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    Jan 20th 2014, 9:44 PM

    Weather systems and fault lines? No wonder really .

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    Mute Adrian
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    Jan 20th 2014, 5:58 PM

    How many people who post condemnation here, truly stop and think how that steak came to be on your plate, those leather gloves on your hands or that ham in your sandwich? Sure, this slaughter of dolphins is barbaric, but so is the whole animal commodity industry, just on a much larger scale.

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 6:43 PM

    @ Adrian, for most people the beef, pork or poultry products that they eat are widely accept as agreeable animals to eat. But what they don’t realise is that a lot of the treatment these animals receive in slaughter houses is just as bad as the way these dolphins are being killed.

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    Mute Chris
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    Jan 20th 2014, 8:25 PM

    Can you provide proof of this happening with in Irish abattoirs ?

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    Mute Adrian
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    Jan 20th 2014, 9:07 PM

    No, I can’t. Can you provide proof that all the meat you eat came from animals raised and killed “humanely”? Besides, it’s not just about the abbatoir stage, there are many opportunities for farmed animals to suffer before their throats are slit. Despite the horrific deaths endured by these dolphins, at least they were free most of their lives. We’re horrified by what happens out in the open in other cultures, yet never seem to want to see what happens closer to home.

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    Mute Pauline Harney Keogh
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    Jan 20th 2014, 9:36 PM

    @ Chris, up until 2010 Slaney Meats were killing cattle in the Kosher method.
    I come from a farming background and have been to abbitors and seen animals being stunned incorrectly, being still conscious as they are strung up and their throats cut.

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    Mute Karen
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    Jan 20th 2014, 9:21 PM

    Karma karma a chara,god of sea pay back.

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    Mute robert ludden
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    Jan 20th 2014, 4:42 PM

    F@€k you whale, fu£k you dolphin!

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    Mute Larry David
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    Jan 20th 2014, 10:34 PM

    A little known fact , Dolphins gang rape their females, not so cute now eh?

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    Jan 21st 2014, 12:20 AM

    E e eeee eeee ee eeeee eeee eeee eeeee eeee ee
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    Jump in de wata wit me I slap u in face wit flippa fin slanty zipa

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    Mute Gerard McCarthy
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    Jan 21st 2014, 3:52 AM

    What happens in Taji is horrible , but such an outburst from mrs Kennedy is almost laughable tweeting how heartbreaking the cull is, on other hand has no problem with drones dropping bombs on innocent people all over Afghanistan and Northern Pakistan!!

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    Mute Gerard McCarthy
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    Jan 21st 2014, 3:53 AM

    Just to be clear don’t agree with the slaughter of dolphins just want to point out hip overact of the us!

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    Mute Paddy Chambers
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    Jan 21st 2014, 12:27 AM

    Of course the US only slaughter Iraqi s and Afgans.

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    Mute George Masterson
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    Jan 20th 2014, 7:41 PM

    As a group, I despise those sea shepherd guys, they are far too close to Eco-terrorists in my eyes.
    The Japanese whale and dolphin hunting is disgusting thought.

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    Mute Lovely weather
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    Jan 20th 2014, 10:25 PM

    Thought?

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    Mute George Masterson
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    Jan 21st 2014, 12:06 AM

    Ruddy predictive text.

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    Mute byrondenis
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    Jan 21st 2014, 12:33 AM

    What’s wrong with this? Everyone benefits so I’m all for it

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