@LITTLEONE: Vulture funds controversy is not relevent to the homeless, cutting child services was a bad decision, but certainly not a reason why these people ended up on the street, can you highlight one example of a person living on the streets with their childern because they could not afford to pay their tax? What a silly notion. You manage to bring up irrelevent talking points without even coming close to addressing my point. If you are going to reply to me, actually reply to my point please. I blamed the culture we currently have as the main reason these people are left on the streets, do you disagree with this and why if you do?

I don’t no anyone that has the money to house people. Charities get well looked after by the people of this Country. If anything the situation would be much worse if it wasn’t for societies generosity.

@Andy Wallace: You don’t know anyone with a spare bed or a couch for people to sleep on during the night so that they do not freeze to death? Jesus, you must only know very unfortunate people.

@James Guinan: well look at you .. telling people off because of how they reply to you. Do you. not like the truth? Who do you think you are telling people how they should reply to you? You made a comment blaming society for these problems and our values not crap politicians.. newsflash James government are part of society and values of this country.. surely you understand that? What a ridiculous comment saying vulture funds play not part in the homeless crisis.. may I suggest watching rte and their vultre funds programme. Then. Maybe read some newspapers.. another newsflash James… Tax plays a big part of people losing their homes .. if you only have so much coming in and do much going out.. the consequences have an effect.. if your unable to accept replies that don’t agree with you or biw down to you. Maybe you shouldn’t be on a site that allows comments Because your obviously not mature enough for criticism…

Well most of my friends have kids including myself. So I don’t think it would be very wise to bring someone home of the street. Ofcourse we would look after one another if homelessness came knocking. Again how would this solve the problem? They can’t stay on a couch for ever.

“Government are part of the values of a country” government are not the values of a country, they are a repersentation of mandate they canvased on in a democratic election, that is not encompassing of the values of a country. Did not read beyond this point, as clearly shown, word salad is all you are capable of forming. Govenment is not part of the societies values… so silly.

@James Guinan: why do you sound like a politician? Why do want to Mock and belittle some one because they don’t agree with you? Your really clueless.. you stay in that bubble.. you dismiss anyone or anything that highlights their failings that have consequences on the homeless crisis. In fact you mocked my comments .. typical political response.. not able or mature for truth .. good on you…

They already tried to turn an old office building into a slum a few months back…

what’s needed here is more ellipsis…

@justanothertaxpayer: I agree ……

@Brendan McGill:
Don’t worry about the homeless epidemic or the systemic corruption in the Gardai. The media are now focused on who’s next to lead FG.

@ciaran: Imagine the trauma, fear and horror of a child being ripped from their parents arms, which is what the state are doing under the guise of “the best interest of the child”, they are illegaly snatching children from their parents. Parents who cant afford the rent are being told, you cant support your family, but we can afford to pay 352euro + per week per child to this stranger over here, he/she could be an abuser, but If that happens, we will protect your child, we wont lock 800+ files in a room and leave your child with their sexual abuser, potential murderer, no WE will look after your child! What a DISGRACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0h4LrMvyLo

@ciaran: recent comments made by a county registrar in court
https://m.facebook.com/#!/story.php?story_fbid=1455137451186487&id=221668834533361

@John O Connor: agreed , and what of the fact that 352eu a week would more than pay the rent on a small house somewhere , where the family could be kept together??

@RJ.Fallon: That was my point Rj., they are trying to dismantle the Irish family and all under the guise of “in the best interest of the child,” when that money, for one child, could be put towards the cost of housing two families for one week. Have you seen the interview of Brian and Janice Docherty whose children were illegaly taken from them with the help of the gardai and Tusla? After they fled Scotland, where they were being harrassed? Its an awful story, If true. And a taste of whats to come. I think most people are unaware of the Irish Adoption Bill passed two months ago which basically takes all parents rights away and hands them to the state.

@gary Smith. Typical blueshirt response. We have never had a homelessness crisis like this in this country before. We’ve had higher unemployment, higher poverty, but such levels of homelessness have only happened during this government’s tenure. It’s a reflection of explicit government policy not to build and to sell stock to vulture funds. It’s like asking how many people languishing on hospital trolleys turned down treatment from a witch doctor.

@darrell fahy: think about it before you belittle, glad your in a safe place

@Gary Smith: you simply have an empathy deficit.

It enables you comfortably to “rationalise” the extreme misery if others. You are oblivious to the real facts and causes.

You cannot recognise this and so your position is hopeless. It won’t worry you and it leaves you comfortably oblivious to the plight if others, even to the terror suffered by children.

@Tony Daly: Why don’t you bring some if these homeless into your own house?

Ignorance implies a lack of knowledge on a subject so therefore chiqeyo I’d suggest a huge number of people are ignorant on this matter…hence I asked for a statistic on it. However the liberal left do gooders who constantly need to be outraged about something like yourself would just rather shout and roar, rather than ask difficult questions. I repeat I’d like to know how many of these kids parents refused the offer of housing. Also how many have had kids since becoming “homeless “. How many refuse to name the multiple sires of these kids and continue to claim generous state benefits? Yes the children are innocent victims here but it’s time their parents especially mothers started taking responsibility for their actions!

@Anne Marie Devlin: Right, I don’t like the goverment either, I think they are rather inefficient and basically reactionary. If you think this is such a brutal horrible disaster, why would you rely on a poor government to fix this problem, why don’t you and all these outraged commenters go out and open the doors of your homes to the homeless and not whinge about someone else doing it. Also, before you try turn it back on me, myself and my wife have done this for a fella I knew from home in Offaly who ended up on the streets here in Limerick, we saw him there and made sure he had a bed in our house for as long as he wanted it.

@Anne Marie Devlin: Well said AM – and don’t forget that Noonan setup a deal for the vultures that allows them pay derisory taxes.

@Gary Smith: Danm right Gary and fair play to you and your ilk. These a..holes spouting about empathy when the extent of it they understand is, someone elses taxes should be applied through an inefficient state to help those in need. If there was more communities like the one ye have, there would be none of these problems.

@James Guinan: Why should anyone open their doors so the government is off the hook for neglecting the most vulnerable in society?
It’s the government’s responsibility to look after all its citizens. Not just the banks, the vulture funds, corporations and the pockets of themselves and their cronies.
The only thing i can say in the government’s defence is that untimately the people are to blame. They tolerate it.

@Dave Doyle: Stall the ball buddy, are you suggesting people should be left to suffer because of a poor government? No and jesus christ no again, that is an awful reason why people shouldn’t take the homeless in. People are capable of more than one thing at a time, the govenment can be still seen as failing these people, without them having to endure more suffering to forward a political narrative. Ffs what you just said is more disgusting than the actions of this govenment, you are advocating for prolonged suffering just to make an example of others failings.

@James Guinan: To a certain extent i agree with you. Why does everyone bitch and moan about government for everything? It’s not as if a disgustingly corrupt Government is ever going to do anything about it. If you want something done, then do it yourself. People just have no will to do it. Everyone has their own problems to deal with.

@thejynxeffect: I am not even talkig about full blown adoption of a homeless family here, I am talking about the bare minimum, a bed or a couch inside a house or garage, whatever is available for the night, so that the poor souls do not freeze to death. By that extent, since very few people I know fo this, it is a reflection of our society rather than just the politicans who have proven they do not care about drug users.

@James Guinan: You do realise the homeless problem would be much worse were it not for families, friends and others doing just what you advocate.
The government throws the problem to charities to deal with, funds them. Most of the funding goes for salaries. It’s not enough. Social housing needs to be built. Not market manipulation to keep developers in clover.
As for me suggesting i leave people to suffer. That’s spin, nothing else. Again i ask you why should people take the responsibility for what is the government’s responsibility?

Get off your high horse James. All you did was take in an old friend from back home.

@James Guinan: Дхе язсххсхж Фвкеягсишл. One spinning Blueshirt agreeing with another spinning Blueshirt.
It is the government’s job to look after the most vulnerable in society. Not peoples. They.ve had enough loaded on their backs to be doing the government’s job for them.

@Dave Doyle: Where have I said government shoudn’t do it? I have argued if government is failing these people, we shouldn’t idily stand by only condenming the government and not actually helping these people in need aswell. Are you too thick to see that or are you intentionally twisting my position. Fyi, I am certainly not a blueshirt.

@Dave Doyle: Do we not agree that the government has ultimately failed these people as I have said twice now? What good does it do “to hold the government responsible” for these people right now? I have clearly stated several times, taking these people in to people who obviously care alot about it here on this website is an immediate temporary soloution and not a deviation away from the government being responsible. You are actually arguing a differnet argument ypu somehow strawmanned to yourself as my position. You somehow managed to convince yourself that I believe the government is absolved of responsibility by advocating personal responsibility to people who are signalling deep concern on the issue. Yes, I believe people should pick up the slack of the failings of government for the third bloody time now.

One, as I stated elsewhere in this comment section. A fella I knew from home in Offaly was in the streets here in limerick city, for the last 2 months, my wife and I provide him the spare room in our house and yes we do have a four year old daughter. He begs on the street or meets up with mates during the day and that is his choice, he probally takes drugs also, I don’t talk to him about that, I talk to his parents back home about it, but at least he is not going to freeze to death on O’Connell street or get mugged or injured in a derelict building around. When he wants to seek help we talk then, he is considering going home to Offaly lately aswell, which I think is the ultimate goal tbh. So yeah, I do house someone, someone I know. Everyone knows someone that is homeless.

So taking in an old friend of yours is why your on your high horse with people here. Want a medal? How many others then strangers? Which you seem to be hinting at others to do.

So taking in an old friend of yours is why your on your high horse with people here. Want a medal? How many others then strangers? Which you seem to be hinting at others to do.

@Andy Wallace: “hinting at” …. A so now you are delving into the world of fantasy, if you cannot address what I actual state and stand by, please don’t try strwaman my position with me telling people to go take strangers in. Also, not a friend, a guy who I knew from home. Never talked to the guy before, but I know my Dad knows his Dad. If what I am saying is a moral action and others applied it, would the homeless problem be tackled or not? Also you are taking this uncomfortably personal, do you know someone on the streets or something? “notice how I don’t strawman you like an idiot by asking a question”

No James it wouldn’t. Putting up your mate from home doesn’t solve the problem. But would suggest you have an inflated sense of self importance. Its not unusual in libtards.

@Andy Wallace: If everyone ensured a homeless person they knew had somewhere to sleep would not prevent a person from suffering on the street or worse dying is not a soloution in your mind. No Andy, that is wrong, of course it would curb the suffering of those on the streets if someone who even vicariously knew them provided even a bed in a garage for them only at night time. I have no dillusions of self granduer, hence why you had to inquire if I was in fact practicing what I preached. My political affilitaion has nothing to do with this issue. You are even wrong in associating what I am saying is liberal, liberals would be advocating for government intervention, personal responibility if those who can choose to help is a conservative. Quite stupid of you to so incorrectly apply a buzzword. I can easily dismiss you as an idiot at this point considering the highlighted falsities and general dumba$$ery yoi have spouted in that rebuttle, but I am more interested to see how your cognitative dissonance will adapt to being wrong so much.

Something tells me everyone who disagrees with you is an “idiot”. Do you honestly think opening a door to your drug addicted friend will solve anything? He needs professional help and only he can decide to get it. Its unbelievable that you think people should just take in these people with out any regard for the others persons in the house. A drug addict will do anything to get the next fix and wouldn’t think twice about throwing your hospitality back in your face.

You sound like A student with zero responsibility. Trying to sound like A intellectual without any qualifications or real world experience.

@Andy Wallace: I must have really gotten under your skin on this topic. Lol, bye bye dummy.

Yes James I will lie awake at night. I pine for your approval oh learned one. ;)

@Andy Wallace: Evidently so

@James Guinan: Go on then how many people did you put up last night then. Some Hero’s don’t where capes what haha.

@James Guinan:Ahhh stupid phone. Not all Hero’s wear capes wha.

@Andy Wallace: Already told you, seemingly this is bothering you quite a bit, maybe you should relect on your stance of leaving the homeless to freeze to death.

@James Guinan: All you did was take in an old friend James get off your high horse. You D swear you went around Dublin every night offering up your house.

@Andy Wallace: Andy. James couldn’t give a flying one about the homeless. What he cares about is deflecting away the responsibility for homelessness onto people.
He spun this very cleverly,now everybody is trying to justify themselves, instead of focusing on those responsible for the homeless problem, the government.
James is a shill, not matter how he tries to deny it.

@Dave Doyle: I have not argued that government has no responsibilty for the homeless, I have argued if government has failed them, we as a people should have the morality to intervene to prevent human suffering. Shill for who? The people I am activelty condenming as failures? Sure whatever floats your boat you dishonest dumbass.

@James Guinan: Your disingenuous comments about the government fool no one. You have spun the whole issue as the responsibility of ordinary people to look after the homeless. The government would love it.
If the government don’t see it as their responsibility, don’t want to do anything about it, rather put their focus on the welfare of banks, vulture funds, corporations, they are not fulfilling their duty as government. That we, as people allow it is our fault. But it’s not up to us to take up the slack, do the government’s job for them. Trying to guilt hit people, trying to blame the homeless on being homeless is standard government tactics.
That you resorted to insult shows the weakness of your argument. And typical of the government shills here.

@Dave Doyle: Has the government and state agencies failed these people?